September 2021 Moms

PGAL 2/21


This is a check in for those of us who are experiencing pregnancy after a loss (miscarriage, chemical pregnancy, stillbirth,  child loss, to name a few). Hopefully we can all lend support to each other through the  hormone filled craziness that is pregnancy!

Just a reminder: there is a general loss trigger warning on this entire thread. 

1. How far along are you? Any milestones?  

2. How are you feeling (pregnancy symptoms)?

3. How are you feeling (anxiety wise)?

4. When is your next appointment? 

5. Rants/raves/whatever (Dear diary posts and venting are welcome and encouraged here)   

Re: PGAL 2/21

  • Also, I forgot to post this last week. Anyone can post this. So if it hasn’t been posted and you feel you need the support, please feel free to just copy and paste and then post a new discussion. Or you can always add in other questions. 
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  • @emeraldcity1214 that's great that you love your OB so much! I can't wait to meet my midwife. She was recommended to me by a nurse at my primary care office. Hopefully she and I vibe!

    1. How far along are you? Any milestones?  11 weeks tomorrow. I guess being in the double-digits is a milestone since my previous losses were at 5 weeks and a CP. 

    2. How are you feeling (pregnancy symptoms)? I felt ok for most of the day yesterday, but got really sick right after dinner (which was at my ILs' house, so that was rough). DH had to pull over so I could throw up on the ride home. That's the fist time I've thrown up, so I guess I should count myself lucky. I've been nauseous most afternoons/evening and food aversion is the worst. I don't want to eat ANYTHING. Except maybe peanut butter and jelly crackers or mashed potatoes. Basically carbs are my BFF right now. 

    3. How are you feeling (anxiety wise)? Getting so sick yesterday threw me for a loop. I guess I assumed I would be feeling better by now, not worse. So now I'm worried something is off. 

    4. When is your next appointment? My intake appointment is March 3, then my first appointment with the midwife is March 16. 

    5. Rants/raves/whatever (Dear diary posts and venting are welcome and encouraged here) Every time I complain about feeling sick or fatigued, I immediately feel bad for complaining. I think it's infertility/PGAL brain, like "YOU SHOULD BE GRATEFUL TO BE PREGNANT, SUCK IT UP!"

  • @emeraldduchess Don’t feel bad for complaining. MS is hell especially when you’re actually unable to eat and vomiting. Admitting you’re miserable doesn’t make you less grateful to be pregnant. This is one of the hardest parts of being pregnant. Hopefully you symptoms start subsiding around 12 weeks and don’t persist into the second trimester. 
  • @emeraldcity1214 thank you. It's definitely PGAL/IF brain. I seriously have felt like I've been hungover for 2 weeks, only there was no alcohol involved. And speaking of alcohol, I do not miss it at all. I was expecting to REALLY miss my Friday night glass of wine, but the idea of wine makes me gag. 😬 
  • 1. How far along are you? Any milestones?  12w2d had my big milestone last Wednesday seeing both babies moving around on the ultrasound. 

    2. How are you feeling (pregnancy symptoms)? Mainly exhausted.  Had a hard time sleeping this weekend so I pulled out my pregnancy pillow.  Hoping this will help with getting comfortable. I didn't start using it until 20 weeks last time.

    3. How are you feeling (anxiety wise)? Anxiety is much better after the ultrasound.

    4. When is your next appointment? 3/22

    5. Rants/raves/whatever (Dear diary posts and venting are welcome and encouraged here)   I found the dresser I wanted for the nursery from Ikea.  We were right next to the store this weekend, but didn't really have time to go and didn't have the right vehicle to bring it back.  I guess we will have to make another trip (it's about 1.5 hours away) this summer....oh darn :wink:


    @e@emeraldcity1214 I'm glad you love your OB.  I loved my old OB, but he had since retired.  I like my current OB.  She's very direct and to the point.  I know she's not everyone's cup of tea.  Maybe it's the infertility background I don't want things sugar coated.


    @emeraldduchess don't feel bad for complaining about not feeling good.  Weeks 5-8 I was absolutely miserable. I felt so bad for feeling the way I did about it after trying for almost 4 years, but we still have the right to complain just as much as someone who gets pregnant with little effort.  There are parts of pregnancy that just suck.

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  • @Centralmnmom I’m not sure if it’s just been that we have been super busy this last week but I’m exhausted too. I have been wondering if the baby is going through a growth spurt. I can only imagine what it would be like with twins. 
  • 1. How far along are you? Any milestones?   11+5 I guess my next ultrasound is a milestone.  When I had my 12 week ultrasound two pregnancies ago, that where they found several issues and started all the testing and talking to specialists until we decided to not continue with the pregnancy at 15 weeks.

    2. How are you feeling (pregnancy symptoms)? I'm super tired and have random bouts of nausea.  The nausea seems to come on more at night around dinner.  It's hard for me to tell if I'm hungry or nauseous. 

    3. How are you feeling (anxiety wise)? Okay I guess?  I'm almost 12 weeks and don't have my next ultrasound until the 5th and wish it was sooner.  My midwife said I can call to make an appointment any time I want to come in to hear the heartbeat but I just feel stupid doing that and not waiting until next Friday.

    4. When is your next appointment? Ultrasound and NIPT on March 5th

    5. Rants/raves/whatever (Dear diary posts and venting are welcome and encouraged here) We've decided to find out the sex (we were team green with my son) and I'm a little nervous about being disappointed.  Obviously I want a healthy baby first and foremost but after losing my baby girl at 15 weeks, I just think I'll feel sad if I have another boy.  And I hate even admitting that.

    @emeraldcity1214 I'm glad your OB is so understanding.  I had a similar conversation with my midwife and started crying at my last appointment.  She was so nice and assuring me it was okay and I may cry at a lot of appointments.  It's hard when you've gone trough multiple losses. 

    @emeraldduchess I agree with the other ladies about not feeling bad complaining.  You can be grateful for your pregnancy and it can be hard all at the same time.

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  • @feelingjovani I feel your fear of gender disappointment to the core of my being. I lost my baby girl at 14 weeks and I feel like I’m suppose to have a little girl running around my house and it isn’t fair. I even had a pity party one day because I know I will feel disappointed and then I feel guilty because I just want a baby I can take home. I have been trying to mentally prepare myself for another boy so I can not have the disappointment when I find out. My kids keeping saying they want a baby sister and I keep reminding them that we just want a healthy baby and we can’t be disappointed if it’s not a girl. That a boy will be a blessing. Anyways, you’re not alone with those feelings. 
  • @feelingjovani - I get you on the fear of gender disappointment. I didn't talk much about it, but did have it with our son (mostly because we were so sure we were one and done and it meant I'd never have a girl). 

    Shockingly, this time I was more relaxed about it. Like, I'm already going through potty training a boy. Do I want to have to deal with teaching a girl how to wipe or period talks or other girl stuff? I think both genders had their downsides for me. 

    I can't WAIT to find out what you're having! 

    @emeraldcity1214 I couldn't believe my OB brought up COVID vaccines the very first time we met (when I hadn't even asked about them), but I figure he's probably being bombarded with questions by pregnant women on their safety. 

    1. How far along are you? Any milestones?  Nearly 12 weeks 

    2. How are you feeling (pregnancy symptoms)? Most are starting to fade, thank goodness. I think I might have SPD or something coming on because if I sit too long, I have weird pressure when I stand. 

    I realized I've been taking too much progesterone though (my doctor didn't tell me to stop the pills when I got the shots) so I'm hoping it might improve once I cut down my dose. 

    3. How are you feeling (anxiety wise)? It depends on the day. I had some spotting last week, but my doctor got me right in to check on things. 

    4. When is your next appointment? March 3

    5. Rants/raves/whatever (Dear diary posts and venting are welcome and encouraged here)   A friend is giving us one of their kids' nursery furniture, so I'm itching to start reorganizing stuff. But I'm also anxious to make too many changes too early and then end up having to get rid of stuff (my husband had nursery furniture moved out before I came home after we had our stillborn daughter). 


  • @marymh80 Our case counts are really low right now. We hit our peak in December and now we are back down to 100 or less cases per day for the entire state. So I’m not too worried at this point. Maybe that’s why she didn’t mention it. Or maybe she doesn’t agree with vaccines in the first and second trimester. 🤷🏻‍♀️
  • @emeraldcity1214 I feel the EXACT same way feeling like I would have had a little girl running around (well I was due in January so I would have been holding my girl).  We haven't told my son yet because I fear untelling him again but he talks about wanting a sister.  It's hard to not have a pity party with those kinds of feelings.  <3

    @marymh80 this is what I love about this thread, knowing that I can share the feelings and not be judged for them. I definitely wouldn't mind being a boy mom it's the thought of what would have been.  Although DH is convinced it's a girl because I've been so puky like I was last time around.
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  • edited February 2021
    @feelingjovani I’m usually very good about just knowing what I’m having. I usually have lots of MS with girls and I’m fine with boys but I have not been able to really get a good feeling one way or the other about this baby. I have more days where I feel fine but when I do feel sick I feel especially nasty.  My genetic testing is next Monday and I may know within a week of that. 

    Edit: finish thought. 
  • @emeraldcity1214 our rates are still really high and all it seems people talk about are vaccines, so maybe that's why he brought it up?

    He's pro-waiting, since there's so little research on it in pregnant women. And I had COVID in January so I'm not exactly rushed for a vaccine since I know there are people who need it more than me. 

    @feelingjovani I was pretty sure pretty early that this was a girl. My skin was TERRIBLE and I was exhausted and sick in a different way than I was last time. 
  • @emeraldcity1214 I am so happy to hear that you have such a great OB. I’ve heard some nightmarish stories through peoples losses (and have one of my own) that it’s so geat to hear about the good experiences too. To your last point, my doctor friend said that until the vaccine is more readily available to everyone who wants it, doctors won’t broach the subject unless you bring it up to them.
    @emeraldduchess YAY FOR THE MILESTONE!!! And you are NOT ALONE in feeling guilty for complaining about symptoms. The anxiety that comes with PGAL puts so much pressure on us that we feel we have to be grateful for every moment that we are pregnant. But the reality is… pregnancy is rough. No matter what. And we should really take that guilt off of ourselves!
    @feelingjovani You shouldn’t feel silly or stupid going in to hear the heartbeat if it will help you at all. I think it’s pretty freaking cool that your midwife is willing to do that for you.
    @marymh80  That’s a great friend! Give yourself some grace to be excited in whatever way that manifests itself – like decorating/reorganizing.

    1. How far along are you? Any milestones?  The end of first tri is within sight, thank God! I am counting that as a milestone lol.
    2. How are you feeling (pregnancy symptoms)? Still throwing up most nights after dinner – doesn’t matter what I eat. Polar opposite daily sickness timeline from DDs pregnancy which is interesting.
    3. How are you feeling (anxiety wise)? Similar to @centralmnmom I am still riding that post-ultrasound high of knowing that baby is OK and thriving. I wish I could live my whole pregnancy on this high.
    4. When is your next appointment? Cardiology tomorrow (high risk with a congenital high condition) and I scheduled an US boutique appointment for next Thursday to take DH and DD to, so I am very much looking forward to that.
    5. Rants/raves/whatever (Dear diary posts and venting are welcome and encouraged here) A part of my job is working with young adults in crisis and this week was one full of mental health struggles and suicidal ideation. I am very proud of how my team and I handled each one of those situations, but honestly… I am taxed. Emotionally spent. I get dose dos of the COVID vaccine on Thursday and took off Friday as a sick day just to recoop from all of the craziness.

     


  • @JustAnotherUsername16 I have really found my doppler to be calming. I can find the HB right off now because I know where it is and I listen every few days. It’s very reassuring. I’m still feeling The high from my last OB visit but my anxiety still creeps in. 
  • I got referred to a MFM for a fetal echo because one of my sons was diagnosed with a congenital heart defect a few months ago. They recommended that I come in and get the nuchal translucency scan so I guess I’m getting that now. They also want to do my anatomy scan in their office and then they will schedule the fetal echo. I’m kinda excited that I get to do all those scans with the MFM. I’m sure they are way more thorough. 
  • Thank you, ladies, for reminding me that it's ok to complain. You are so right, PGAL or not, some stuff about this sucks. 💜 

  • Why does PGAL brain have to be so hard in the first trimester. I worked myself up again. Then I decided to check the HB with the doppler. Couldn’t find it then started really freaking out. Tried again and it was there. Ugh, my anxiety needs to chill. I also need to just be in the second trimester already. 
  • I'm so sorry, @emeraldcity1214. But I am glad you have a group like this one where you can vent all the PGAL frustrations to. This shit suuuuucks
  • @emeraldcity1214 that's the hard part with dopplers they can calm anxiety when you find the heartbeat, but can definitely be anxiety inducing.  From what I've seen in my IVF groups apparently 15-17 weeks is the most difficult time to find babies with the doppler just as a heads up.  And I agree it nice to be able to share with people that kind of know what you're going through infertility and loss does a lot to your brain.  I worry about so many more things with this pregnancy than I ever did with my first.

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  • @Centralmnmom Thanks for the heads up. I have already started feeling some movement so as long as that continues to get consistent I will use the doppler less and less. I don’t know why I suddenly got anxious. I swear it just came up out of nowhere. Have you started feeling movement? You have two wiggling around in there so you should be feeling something. 
  • @emeraldcity1214 no I haven't felt anything yet.  From what I've read you don't feel them any sooner just because there's two. I was trying to remember when I felt with my first and I think it was closer to 16 weeks.

    I thought of another milestone.  I get to stop progesterone suppositories today! :)  That's the last of the fertility medications I've had to take.

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  • @Centralmnmom I can’t wait to stop them. They are so disgusting. I only have another 10 days left on this prescription and I’m not sure if they plan to write me another weeks worth or call it done. 
  • @Centralmnmom I got to stop the Crinone gel two weeks ago and I am SO glad that's done! That stuff solidifies after a day or so and it's...not fun.   :s
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