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IF Testing and Treatment Week of 11/4-11/10/19

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  • @shoogapoff I'm sure every RE has a different approach but since the trigger is supposed to take about 36hrs before you actually release the eggs and follicles can grow at a rate of around 1-2mm a day, I would think that between the time you had your scan and when you actually released the egg they have a chance to grow another 2-4mm? That puts you right in the 20mm+ range. I've never heard that about viagra, but I'm learning new things every day! Like men who have been prescribed clomid. So interesting. 

    TTC History:

    Me: 36  MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS dx

    Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil

    Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN

    Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

    Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)

    Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil) 

    Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.

    Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.

    Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w                                                  

    Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d. 

    May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN. 

    June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between. 


    Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal

    Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic

    Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex

    Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP

    Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN

    Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin. 

    Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal. 

    June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.

    July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN. 

    Sep '22: Taking a break

    Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed. 

    Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23


  • @shoogapoff - @kiki047 is correct about your follies still growing after the trigger. I’ve never heard that about viagra, that’s very interesting If that’s true. If this IUI doesn’t work for you, I would certainly ask why they wanted you to trigger so soon instead of waiting.
    Our TTC Journey
    TTC #1: May 2011
    BFP: 10/27/2011 |  EDD: 6/30/12
    DS born 6/28/12 via C/S 3 

    TTC #2: September 2018
    Me: 36 | DH: 39
    Mirena removed 9/13/2018 after 6 years
    BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
    July 2019 - Diagnosed with Secondary Unexplained IF
    August 2019 - 2.5 mg of Letrozole = Never Ovulated so Trigger and IUI were cancelled
    9/30/2019 - IUI #1 (5 mg of Letrozole + Trigger) =  BFP but Betas showed CP @ 4 weeks
    10/28/2019 - IUI #2 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFN
    11/25/2019 - IUI #3 (7.5mg of Letrozole, Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
    12/24/2019 - IUI #4 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
    1/24/2020 - IUI #5 (50mg of Clomid + Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN and an Ovarian Cyst
    3/2/2020 - Taking a break to reset/NTNP
    11/1/2020 - At peace with where things are in life and are no long actively TTC. Whatever happens will happen and it will all be okay. <3

  • @pom9207 I’m glad you were able to do the IUI!

    @mvt2003 ugh I’m sorry you still have some hoops to jump through. When is the SA?
  • NYTino24NYTino24 member
    edited November 2019
    @mvt2003 I understand your frustration and hope that IVF works for you if that’s where you’re headed.
    @pom9207 Yay! When is your beta?
    @inthewoods23 How are you feeling? Been quiet without you!!
    @shoogapoff Sometimes they are worried about ovulation occurring spontaneously and then the IUI being late. My office decided to have me trigger when one measurement of the lead follicle was 18 and then it remeasured to 20 and my lining wasn’t very good, which I do think may have played a part in the failure last cycle. Who knows, but what’s done is done. They did do better this cycle by having me go a day later and listening to me about switching from Clomid to Letrozole. Try to stay calm! 
    It's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most...not where you live, or what you drive, or the price tag on your clothes... There's no dollar sign on a piece of mind, this I've come to know! *ZBB*

    Me: 36 DH 35 
    TTC  9/2016     BFP 12/9/16    EDD 8/21/17    NMC 1/8/16 at 7w6d
    TTC  2/2017  BFP 3/6/17   EDD 11/17/17   DS born 11/25/17 via ECS
    TTC 12/2018   BFP 6/2/19   EDD 2/12/20  NMC / BO at 7 weeks, low progesterone
    TTC 7/2019   BFP 8/21/19 EDD 4/22/20 CP at 5 weeks
    TTC 8/19    IUI #1 w/ Clomid + Ovidrel + progesterone  BFN, IUI 2 and 3 w/ Letrozole + Ovidrel + progesterone,
    IUI 4 Follistim + Ovidrel + progesterone BFP 1/9/20 EDD 9/18/20

    AMA, ITP in pregnancy, vWD type II - low Factor VIII, unexplained RPL and secondary infertility
  • *lurking* 

    @mvt2003 Sorry for not giving you a heads up on the physical exam for your H today. Funny story, when MH had his appointment the dr tried to make awkward small talk. In the middle of the exam he asked if we had any weekend plans. I burst out laughing because apparently I'm immature like that. 

    Did the RU give you any wait time for when to complete the second SA? We had similar numbers as you for the first SA (3 mil), but second SA was higher (12 mil). H's urologist said counts can adjust seasonally and because of acute stressors (sickness, stress, etc) so recommended at least 2 months between SAs. 
    Me: 31 DH: 34 :heart: Married: April 2016
    TTC December 2016
    BFP 2/28/17 // CP 3/1/17
    MFI Diagnosis: Aug 2017
    BFP 11/1/17 // DS born 6/18
    TTC January 2019
    BFP 3/21/19 // D&C (MMC) 5/8/19
  • @bows22 I had a ruptured cyst last spring and OB also said no big deal.  Apparently lots of us get cysts and never even know.  I only knew about mine because the rupture caused severe abdominal pain and I ended up in the ER worried I had appendicitis and they did a cat scan.  I guess they don’t always burst so maybe the light pain is a cyst that hasn’t ruptured?  I’ve felt some light pain since then that I identify as similar but not near as severe that I assume are cysts.  I get the impression they just come and go.  

  • @mvt2003 I'm glad you get the second SA over right away! Also glad you dont have to miss FW this cycle. Any idea how soon you will get to start IVF? 
    Me: 31 DH: 34 :heart: Married: April 2016
    TTC December 2016
    BFP 2/28/17 // CP 3/1/17
    MFI Diagnosis: Aug 2017
    BFP 11/1/17 // DS born 6/18
    TTC January 2019
    BFP 3/21/19 // D&C (MMC) 5/8/19
  • @pom9207 progesterone check 11/12 and beta 11/19. The trigger shot wasn’t out of my system until like 13 dpo and I used up all of my tests except one digital so I won’t test until maybe the morning
    It's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most...not where you live, or what you drive, or the price tag on your clothes... There's no dollar sign on a piece of mind, this I've come to know! *ZBB*

    Me: 36 DH 35 
    TTC  9/2016     BFP 12/9/16    EDD 8/21/17    NMC 1/8/16 at 7w6d
    TTC  2/2017  BFP 3/6/17   EDD 11/17/17   DS born 11/25/17 via ECS
    TTC 12/2018   BFP 6/2/19   EDD 2/12/20  NMC / BO at 7 weeks, low progesterone
    TTC 7/2019   BFP 8/21/19 EDD 4/22/20 CP at 5 weeks
    TTC 8/19    IUI #1 w/ Clomid + Ovidrel + progesterone  BFN, IUI 2 and 3 w/ Letrozole + Ovidrel + progesterone,
    IUI 4 Follistim + Ovidrel + progesterone BFP 1/9/20 EDD 9/18/20

    AMA, ITP in pregnancy, vWD type II - low Factor VIII, unexplained RPL and secondary infertility
  • bows22bows22 member
    edited November 2019
    I remembered (in the middle of the night) something else the ultrasound tech said. My lining was 10 mm which she was surprised about for day 3 of my cycle. She said I should still have another day of heavy bleeding but I didn’t. I do have heavy bleeding for the first 2 days so I’m confused that so much would be left? Has anyone else experienced this?

    @ramzlau I hope your RE is able to give you guidance to make you comfortable with whatever you decide! Edit to answer your question - I have my SHG on Monday, then I still have bloodwork once I get + OPK and then 7 DPO bloodwork, so I have an appointment after all of that do go over everything but I think they will at least briefly go over what we’ve done so far at the SHG next week. I’m going to ask if they don’t haha 
  • @pom9207 so glad you were able to get the IUI in! I know you were worried it wasn't going to happen.

    @mvt2003 I'm glad you liked the RU and that the appointment went seemingly well. But I am deeply sorry that you this is where you and YH have landed in your TTC journey. The good news is that you're getting the help you need to get what you truly want and deserve. Take all the time you need to process it all. <3

    @bows22 so glad your got your CD3 appointment in and that everything, for the most part, is in order and looking good! I am also proud of you for not going down a google rabbit hole!!! 

    @ramzlau Thanks, girl!! We do have decent plans this weekend so that will make the time fly by :) I feel like, if I were in your position, and of course based on what the doctor says in response to you asking them, I would keep trying on our own.
    Our TTC Journey
    TTC #1: May 2011
    BFP: 10/27/2011 |  EDD: 6/30/12
    DS born 6/28/12 via C/S 3 

    TTC #2: September 2018
    Me: 36 | DH: 39
    Mirena removed 9/13/2018 after 6 years
    BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
    July 2019 - Diagnosed with Secondary Unexplained IF
    August 2019 - 2.5 mg of Letrozole = Never Ovulated so Trigger and IUI were cancelled
    9/30/2019 - IUI #1 (5 mg of Letrozole + Trigger) =  BFP but Betas showed CP @ 4 weeks
    10/28/2019 - IUI #2 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFN
    11/25/2019 - IUI #3 (7.5mg of Letrozole, Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
    12/24/2019 - IUI #4 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
    1/24/2020 - IUI #5 (50mg of Clomid + Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN and an Ovarian Cyst
    3/2/2020 - Taking a break to reset/NTNP
    11/1/2020 - At peace with where things are in life and are no long actively TTC. Whatever happens will happen and it will all be okay. <3

  • @ramzlau Congratulations on your first half! That is a huge accomplishment!!! 

    Thank you ladies for all of your support @meri-mac @kpearse99 @kiki047 @nitnat007 I'm still swinging pretty wildly between anxiousness to get it going and fear of the process, but I know I'll be ok through this with you all by my side. 
    me: 35 / so: 34 | ttc #1 since 9/2018
    DX: MFI
    IVF Cycle #1 February 2020 4 embryos frozen, 1 fresh transfer = CP 
    FET #1 Natural Cycle March 2020 CXL'd due to Covid-19 :( 
    FET #1 Natural Cycle June 2020 - CP #2
    FET #2 Natural Cycle July 2020 - BFP!!!!!! Beta #1 = 273


    June Signature Challenge - Favorite TV Quotes


  • @mvt2003 that's the best news!! So relieved for you. I hope that eases some of your worries about moving forward. 

    TTC History:

    Me: 36  MH: 39, TTC since Dec 2017

    Aug '18: PCOS dx

    Nov '18: MH SA - 19mil

    Dec '18-Mar '19: Letrozole + TI - all BFN

    Apr '19: Letrozole + TI, - BFN.  Repeat SA (27mil) & DNA fragmentation test (17%)

    Aug '19: Letrozole + HCG trigger + IUI + prog supp - BFN (MH: 16mil)

    Sep '19: 2nd IUI, same protocol - BFN (MH: 16mil) 

    Dec '19: IVF #1 w/ICSI, PGT. 5 retrieved, 4 fertilized, 3 blasts, 3 PGT-A normal.

    Mar '20: FET #1, perfect 5AA blast transferred. BFN.

    Sept '20: FET #2, 5BB tsf. 9/18/20 BFP!! EDD: 5/27/21. MMC 11w                                                  

    Feb ‘21: FET #3, last 6BB blast transferred. BFP, EDD 11/2/21. MC 5w3d. 

    May '21: IVF #2 w/ICSI, PGT. 8R, 7M, 6F, 6 blasts - 3AB, 3AB, 3BB, 4BB, 5BB, 6BA. Fresh tsf 5/13/21 - BFN. 

    June '21: PGT-A results = 3 abnormal, 1 low level mosaic. Referred to new REI, had consult with 2nd RE in between. 


    Sept '21: RPL, immune testing normal

    Oct '21: IVF #3 w/IMSI, PGT. 33R, 26M, 23F, 9 blasts (7 day 6, 2 day 7). PGT-A = 5 normal, 1 mosaic

    Dec '21: Positive for endometritis, RX Flagyl & Keflex

    Jan '22: FET #5 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol incl. PRP, intralipids, prednisone, medrol, nivestym, fragmin - CP

    Feb '22: FET #6 - Kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol w/higher doses of pred & fragmin - BFN

    Mar '22: Mock cycle for ERA - cancelled, repeat endometrial biopsy instead. Still positive for endometritis. RX ciprofloxacin & amoxicillin. 

    Apr '22: IVF #4 w/IMSI, PGT. 28R, 23M, 16F, 11 blasts. PGT-A = 6 normal. 

    June '22: FET #7 - Microdose lupron downreg w/kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol - double embryo transfer. BFN.

    July '22: FET #8 - Mini stim w/Puregon + trigger, kitchen sink immune/RIF protocol. BFN. 

    Sep '22: Taking a break

    Dec '22: Attempted abdominal myomectomy, fibroid too close to cervix and major blood vessels. Wasn't removed. 

    Feb '23: FET #9 - Modified natural w/baby asp, HCG trigger, PIO, PRP, Medrol, HCG wash, embryo glue - BFP!! EDD 11/11/23


  • Once a lurker x2 and now looking for support. 

    I have a 9yo and a 3yo. During both pregnancies and during the first few months I lurked on The Bump for information and just to feel like I wasn't alone in my experience. Now I am trying for a 3rd and having issues. It took 19 months to conceive my now 3yo. I had a blocked tube and had a procedure to remove the block. I was later given clomid and conceived my now 3yo.

    (I am unsure how to do the "trigger warning", but the rest of this intro gets a little rough: loss, medical issues.)
    My clomid pregnancy was twins early on and we lost one. During the birth I went into A-Fib and was rushed to the ICU. During testing it was found that I had nodules on my throat, which later turned out to be cancerous, and then I soon had a total thyroidectomy. My fertility struggles and medical issues in general left me psychologically warn. Shortly after that pregnancy I began therapy and was later prescribed medication for anxiety. It helped me so much to process everything that had occurred. I've since discontinued the medication recently because I have this idea in my head that I should try to be "clean" to prepare my body for pregnancy. I know that's not based on reality. I just feel like I want to do anything I can. I may even be putting additional stress on my body in stopping the medication.

    I've been lurking The Bump off and on for a decade (that sounds crazy when I type that out), but there is honestly something special about this group on TTGP. Many other groups were not so supportive and weren't there for help and encouragement specifically for the TTGP journey. This is finally a group I'd like to participate in. 

    Diagnosis (if you've been): previous blocked tube, currently not sure; appointment scheduled for mid-November

    Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): TWW, but I am pretty sure I am out 

    What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): waiting for my appointment to determine my plan

    How are things going?: Stressing big time. Everything that I thought I had learned about my body from my previous infertility seems to have changed. I was a 28 day cycle, ovulate on day 14 kinda girl. Now my OPKs are telling me that I am ovulating as early as day 9 and my BBT is all over the place and just nonsense. 

    Also, my husband is in grad school and is so overwhelmed. We haven't told anyone we are TTC and it's been very lonely (again!) feeling so strongly about something that I don't feel comfortable opening up about. 

    Any questions?: can someone give me some heads-up on how to add the Trigger Warnings?

    GTKY: What part of your wardrobe do you spend the most on? 100% shoes, and a close second with cozy fleece jackets
  • @meri-mac so excited for you for your upcoming ER!

    @misskdreams sorry about your medical issues. Hope your appointment get you some answers.

    TTC #1
    *TW*
    Me: 28 DH: 30
    Married: 09/16
    TTC #1 08/18

    ~2019~
    IUI #1 #2 #3 with letrozole cancelled 
    Natural cycle IUI #4 10/19 BFN
    First RE visit 11/19
    Clomid 50mg + IUI#5 11/19 BFN
    Elevated prolactin dx confirmed 11/19
    Clomid 50mg + IUI#6 cancelled

    ~2020~
    IVF #1 ICSI+PGT-A 02/20
    32R 19M 14F 7B 7 PGT-A normal
    Hysteroscopy to remove polyps 3/20
    FET 05/20 BFP! beta #1 9dp6dt 443.8; beta #2 11dp6dt 1212
    Baby has a heartbeat! 6w5d HB 128


  • @meri-mac I did the same with my trigger shot for the ER and they had me take cabergoline to help prevent OHSS. Everything went well for me. Hope everything goes well for you and you feel great after your ER!
    *TW* History:
    Me: 34 DH: 36 | Together since 2007 | Married July 2016

    TTC #1 since 7.2017
    Dx: low morph (1%), ANA positive, low decidualization score, high TSH and testosterone, histone antibodies

    IUI #1-3 all BFN
    IVF #1 | 6.11.19 | 24R, 17M, 15F, 6B, PGT-A tested - 5 normal, 3 girls & 2 boys
    FET #1 | 9.10.19 | BFN "I know you, but we've never met. I'm with you, but I don't know your name"
    RPL, Receptiva, & ERA testing | all normal/negative, recommended going on gluten and dairy free diet for next FET
    FET #2 | 3.31.20 | Opted to cancelled due to pandemic, continued diet and tried naturally over the summer
    2nd Opinion with another RE | 8.20.20 | Not immune to measles (received 1 dose); SA results similar to 2 years ago; decided to move forward with FET #2 redo at start of next cycle
    Surprise natural BFP! | 9.22.20 | MC 10.23.20 at 8 weeks
    TTCAL naturally | starting 11.22.20

    Initial consultation with Reproductive Immunologist | 9.14.21
    Decidualization score biopsy | 10.1.21 | abnormal - low score of 1; endometrial scratch recommended and progesterone supplementation
    Saline sono | 10.15.21 | normal
    Bloodwork | 10.21.21 high TSH, high testosterone, positive for anti-nuclear antibodies and histone antibodies, high protein S, multiple genetic mutations
    BFP! | 11.3.21 | EDD 7.14.22 B) | biopsy provided same effect as endometrial scratch; added supplemental progesterone and estrogen, prednisone, levothyroxine, and MTX Support to maintain pregnancy
    DS born 7.19.22 after induction


    TTC #2 begins 6.2023
    Consultation with RI | 6.6.23
    Saline sono, endometritis biopsy, skin & eye check | all normal
    Labs | high TSH, Factor XIII mutation, high %CD56
    Follow up | 8.8.23 | prescribed metformin, prednisone, plaquenil, and levothyroxine
    Repeat labs after 3 weeks on meds
    Follow up | 11.9.23 | Green light!, increase in prednisone, added lovenox
    Repeat labs in 8 weeks
    Follow up | 1.16.24 | Green light continues
    TTC put on pause
  • @inthewoods23 I think that is the other thing I am taking as well. Thank you so much for saying that. I makes me feel so much better about the whole thing!
  • @feather_heather Ohhhh I'm so happy for you! All of the sticky embryo vibes!!!!!! 
    me: 35 / so: 34 | ttc #1 since 9/2018
    DX: MFI
    IVF Cycle #1 February 2020 4 embryos frozen, 1 fresh transfer = CP 
    FET #1 Natural Cycle March 2020 CXL'd due to Covid-19 :( 
    FET #1 Natural Cycle June 2020 - CP #2
    FET #2 Natural Cycle July 2020 - BFP!!!!!! Beta #1 = 273


    June Signature Challenge - Favorite TV Quotes


  • @feather_heather ahhhhh wonderful news!!!!!!!!!!!! So happy for you!!! now stick embryo, stick!!!!!
    Our TTC Journey
    TTC #1: May 2011
    BFP: 10/27/2011 |  EDD: 6/30/12
    DS born 6/28/12 via C/S 3 

    TTC #2: September 2018
    Me: 36 | DH: 39
    Mirena removed 9/13/2018 after 6 years
    BFP 11/11/2018 | MC @ 5.5 weeks on Thanksgiving
    July 2019 - Diagnosed with Secondary Unexplained IF
    August 2019 - 2.5 mg of Letrozole = Never Ovulated so Trigger and IUI were cancelled
    9/30/2019 - IUI #1 (5 mg of Letrozole + Trigger) =  BFP but Betas showed CP @ 4 weeks
    10/28/2019 - IUI #2 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Trigger) = BFN
    11/25/2019 - IUI #3 (7.5mg of Letrozole, Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
    12/24/2019 - IUI #4 (7.5mg of Letrozole + Crinone after IUI) = BFN
    1/24/2020 - IUI #5 (50mg of Clomid + Trigger + Crinone after IUI) = BFN and an Ovarian Cyst
    3/2/2020 - Taking a break to reset/NTNP
    11/1/2020 - At peace with where things are in life and are no long actively TTC. Whatever happens will happen and it will all be okay. <3

  • *lurk*
    @emeraldduchess if you’re putting it in the fridge after you mix it up (assuming it isn’t already), take it out about 30 min before! If you’re doing sub-q then just grab your belly fat to put the needle into and take deep breaths- you’ve got this! (I didn’t do IM because DH would faint so I have no advice there)
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