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  • Thanks @emmasemm and @c-town18 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ I’m so grateful to have you all in my court. The one with 75 repeats was chromosomally normal so at least there’s that. I’m trying to process it all right now. Probably if they were both abnormal I wouldn’t think as hard about another OE cycle   
  • Hi everyone. My SO and I have decided to go forward with another cycle knowing that I can respond to stims. I really feel uncomfortable using an affected male embryo and I don’t want to become so blinded by an attachment to my own genetics that I don’t give this kid a good start in life. We have enough money for the cycle before we turn to donor eggs so we’re going to give it a shot. I can’t pretend I’m not disappointed by our results but trying to just put one foot in front of the other. Anyway I’m thinking about y’all @Imajin99 and @hopefuljj and I totally want to know the sex of your baby when you get the results @emmasemm!
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  • @lucyb1954 I’m so sorry about the results but happy to hear you are moving forward with another cycle!  @emmasemm I could not be more thrilled from your update!!!!  Remember, it’s never too late for a career change;) 
    Me: Hashimoto Autoimune Disease
    Homozygous MTHFR Cr677
    DOR - AMH  .27 High FSH (don't even know how high)
    2 iui's to start - BFN 
    IVF 1 -3 made it do day 5!    2 5AA 1 6BB  PGS results =  all abnormal :(
    IVF 2 - stimmed for 19 days. insanity. Had 5 follicles that looked mature but only 2 contained mature eggs the others were empty.  Nothing made it to day 5
    IVF 3 - added in HGH - 4 mature follicles (had some empties again) 3 made it to day 5/6 for PGS (held for testing with next retrieval
    IVF 4 - Upped my dosage for the first time - Canceled 11 days into sims - looked like 1 follicle and we were afraid it was empty
    IVF 5 - Canceled -  looked like 1 follicle and we were afraid it was empty
    IVF 6 - 3 mature, 2 fertalized 1 made it to day 5 and sent for PGS

    Sent in IVF round 3 and 6 (4 embryos) for PGS testing and got 2 normal embryos!!!  1Boy and 1Girl. Took a little over a year to get those two embryos so demanded all sorts of test prior to attempting transfer. Did EFT, ERA and NK Cells testing.

    FET#1 - Intralipid drips, Prednisone, and did a depot lupron shot before starting the FET protocol
    Chemical pregnancy
    FET#2 - PGS normal boy - BFN
    Natural pregnancy - cycle following the FET2????   Miscarriage at 8 weeks.  viability scan had shown an enlarged yolk sac so I had been warned that it was likely not chromosonally normal :(

    DEIVF cycle - picked a donor who is willing to be open! Her cycle resulted in in 4 PGS Normal embryos
    1st transfer - chemical pregnancy
    2nd transfer - success, May 17 2020 due date!
  • @lucyb1954- gosh girl, I’m so sorry. Praying so hard for a not effected embaby in your next cycle! It’s such a hard decision but if you have the funds, I see think it’s worth another shot. If you have to do donor, you want to be fully ready!

    @emmasemm- so excited things are looking good!! And I can’t wait to hear the gender either!!
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • @lucyb1954 Oh sorry to hear about the results and I am not too familiar with Fragile X information but seems like you and SO are on top of it and know best.  
    Glad you are trying another cycle as yes you respond and the embryos fertilized.  Hope Utah is a little cooler now.
    I think we are going to do another 2 OE cycles and convert to IUI if its is only 1 which it has been in the last 4 cycles.  Fortunately the next few rounds for this year will have my medication covered at 100% so worth trying with my own especially since we have given my body a few months to rest.  Will keep you all posted once I start probably by next week.
  • Soooooo.... it’s a girl!!!!!!! Beyond shocked! We have six nephews from all our siblings!

    @imajin99 glad to hear you have a plan and are really close to starting your next cycle!

    @lucyb1954 we also set our plan based on leaving enough money for DE but doing OE as long as we had money and my body was handling it. Fx this next cycle builds on what you learnt from last time.
    Me 43 DH 45
    Married 12/2016
    TTC #1 since 04/2015
    AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
    7 retrievals, 3 transfers
    Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
    Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
    Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
    Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
    Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
    Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
    Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
    Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
    Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
    Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
    Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
    Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
    Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality 

    Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return


  • @emmasemm ahhhhh! That’s so exciting! Yay!!! Congratulations!!! I would be thrilled with any healthy baby but I do love little girls ❤️

    Thanks @JamieH2000 I think you’re right...we want to be ready for DE if that’s what’s next. More than anything I just want a healthy kiddo. Some people would feel fine transferring the affected embryo but I just can’t reconcile it in my heart. 

    @Imajin99 I’m starting stims late September/early October. I’m saying my prayers that yours go well! How did your medication all get covered? I’m jealous! 


  • @hopefuljj oh I am soooo absolutely thrilled.
    As you know, I guessed there was something as you so deftly avoided all the questions!
    And saying something will not change anything - but I also completely understand as this was me two months ago - and even now I don’t want to buy anything “just in case” whereas DH was ready to buy *everything* from day 1 and tell everyone!!! 
    Come on Sept 18th!!! 
    Me 43 DH 45
    Married 12/2016
    TTC #1 since 04/2015
    AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
    7 retrievals, 3 transfers
    Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
    Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
    Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
    Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
    Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
    Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
    Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
    Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
    Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
    Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
    Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
    Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
    Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality 

    Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return

  • @emmasemm when I was your DM I was like, oh....ok, haha I better break my silence! Thank you for your excitement :)
    Me: Hashimoto Autoimune Disease
    Homozygous MTHFR Cr677
    DOR - AMH  .27 High FSH (don't even know how high)
    2 iui's to start - BFN 
    IVF 1 -3 made it do day 5!    2 5AA 1 6BB  PGS results =  all abnormal :(
    IVF 2 - stimmed for 19 days. insanity. Had 5 follicles that looked mature but only 2 contained mature eggs the others were empty.  Nothing made it to day 5
    IVF 3 - added in HGH - 4 mature follicles (had some empties again) 3 made it to day 5/6 for PGS (held for testing with next retrieval
    IVF 4 - Upped my dosage for the first time - Canceled 11 days into sims - looked like 1 follicle and we were afraid it was empty
    IVF 5 - Canceled -  looked like 1 follicle and we were afraid it was empty
    IVF 6 - 3 mature, 2 fertalized 1 made it to day 5 and sent for PGS

    Sent in IVF round 3 and 6 (4 embryos) for PGS testing and got 2 normal embryos!!!  1Boy and 1Girl. Took a little over a year to get those two embryos so demanded all sorts of test prior to attempting transfer. Did EFT, ERA and NK Cells testing.

    FET#1 - Intralipid drips, Prednisone, and did a depot lupron shot before starting the FET protocol
    Chemical pregnancy
    FET#2 - PGS normal boy - BFN
    Natural pregnancy - cycle following the FET2????   Miscarriage at 8 weeks.  viability scan had shown an enlarged yolk sac so I had been warned that it was likely not chromosonally normal :(

    DEIVF cycle - picked a donor who is willing to be open! Her cycle resulted in in 4 PGS Normal embryos
    1st transfer - chemical pregnancy
    2nd transfer - success, May 17 2020 due date!
  • @hopefuljj I’ve been thinking about you and also wondering cuz you have been deftly avoiding the questions! I’m really thrilled for you and I understand not wanting to say anything. It’s hard and then if there’s bad news you have to repeat it etc. I’m sending my prayers your way! I’m not religious so to speak so they’re nondenominational and they can just be well wishes depending on your feelings about them! ❤️❤️❤️ 
  • @emmasemm I’m over the moon for you!!! Yay for pink!!! I swear u til she came out and I saw she really was a girl I didn’t believe it  :D:D how’s that bump looking  :)

    @hopefuljj doing a happy dance over here!!! thrilled to pieces for you, I had a feeling but didn’t want to rush it either!  And sept 18 will be a great day! That my transfer day for my girl.  I was wondering what this year would bring...only good things!! 

    @lucyb1954 like the others I’m not so familiar with the fragile x part but you are already such an amazing mama!! The selflessness you have just show no matter what road you take for your miracle will be perftely yours! I’m thrilled you had a normie, hoping your next round goes smoothly for u!! 
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • Hey everyone - I guess I'll add myself to this post. I was in the IUI post late last year and early this year (all failed) and then in the August IVF post. I just started shots on Monday, below is the protocol.
    About me: I'm 43 and my AMH level is .26, which I know is extremely low. I got bad news 3 weeks ago at my saline appoint that I had only 1 follicle. I had a breakdown in the office (and on the way to work and at work!). That was a major let down, as I had 7-8 six months earlier. Because of this the RE recommended mini stim, which isn't her expertise. SO and I had a long discussion and decided to go with the traditional IVF. 
    Fast forward to this past Monday's baseline ultrasound, I was given the clear to start stims AND clinic now sees 12 follicles!!! They don't know why and how. Now there's tears of joy. I know that this is just the first step and that the number of follicles has nothing to do with the quality of eggs, but it was still somewhat of relief. So here I am day 3 of stims with an estimated ER of 9/20. Trying to keep calm and reduce anxiety, but it's hard. If this doesn't work we will go with the mini stim.
    I've been lurking in this post for a very long time and I'm encouraged by the positive news and the strength you all have to keep going!

    Protocol
    Estrogen for 10 days prior to stims
    AM - 300iu Follistim and PM - 175iu Menopur
    Cetrotide once largest follicle reaches 12.5
    Pregnyl 10k to trigger
  • hopefuljj - YESSSS!  What a wonderful surprise update!  I know it's early but congratulations :)  Those are some solid betas. 
  • @emmasemm Pink Pink Pink, congratulations.  I have two nieces and always have so much fun with them. How are you feeling? 

    @hopefuljj Great news, so happy for you. Looking forward to hearing about your ultrasound. 

    @lucyb1954 Good luck with you next cycle!  I am covered for medications through my extended health care plan, it is covered at 80% however when you pay the 20% out of pocket and it exceeds 2,500 in a calendar year then the 100% plan coverage kicks in. And as you all know with max dose that is pretty easy to hit.

    However, AFM, my clinic really wanted me to try a combo minimal stim cycle so I am on day 3 of letrzole and on day 7 will start taking menopur and determine what will be next steps after my scan on tuesday.

    31magnolia Good luck with your cycle! 12 follicles sounds amazing.
  • @emmasemm- aww omg a girl!! What a dream!! Still so happy for you guys :)

    @hopefuljj- OMG!! Holy cow!! Couldn’t be more thrilled for you! Those are strong betas, this is gonna be it!
    History in Spoiler

    Age: 32 (same with DH). Together since 2006, Married June 2013 and TTC since August 2015
    Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
    March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN 
    June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
    August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
    Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
    January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze :(), BFN
    May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline :(
    Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid :(
    Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
    Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
    Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
    Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues :(
    Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
    Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
    Back for # 2!
  • @Imajin99 thank you. good luck on your mini stim cycle!

    I had my 2nd monitoring appt today. Have 3 follicles over 10mm. No leads, so that's good. I start cetrotide on Sunday night and next appt is scheduled for Tuesday. 
  • Amen on everything c-town said u ladies deserve something to just go easy for u!!!

    @Imajin99 sounds like that your place wants to try something different, definitely worth a shot good luck!!

    @31magnolia welcome and best of luck sounds like ur off to a great start!  Infertility is the worst roller coaster ever but will be worth it in the end!! Trust I never thought I would say that when friends would say that to me BUT they were right! 
    History of TTC in spoiler box
    TTC since 2014
    Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
    7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN 
    IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle :( RE thought I would get at least 10.
    IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
    IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F,  3DT)-BFP  with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks  :'( 
    IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP  (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal  :'( 
    IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! :)
    IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! :)
    IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!

  • Thank you ladies so much for your kind words and excitement:).  Just trying to act natural and stay calm until  Wednesday’s scan.  I should be 5w 3 days at that point so not sure what all they would be able to see if things are progressing as normal but just hoping we see whatever we are supposed to see I guess.  I think last time I didn’t get a scan until 6 weeks. 

    @Imajin99 trying something new sounds very promising! Crossing all the things for you!!

    @31magnolia
    Your cycle is sounding very very promising! I can’t even imagine seeing that many follicles!  Wishing you lots of luck!
    Me: Hashimoto Autoimune Disease
    Homozygous MTHFR Cr677
    DOR - AMH  .27 High FSH (don't even know how high)
    2 iui's to start - BFN 
    IVF 1 -3 made it do day 5!    2 5AA 1 6BB  PGS results =  all abnormal :(
    IVF 2 - stimmed for 19 days. insanity. Had 5 follicles that looked mature but only 2 contained mature eggs the others were empty.  Nothing made it to day 5
    IVF 3 - added in HGH - 4 mature follicles (had some empties again) 3 made it to day 5/6 for PGS (held for testing with next retrieval
    IVF 4 - Upped my dosage for the first time - Canceled 11 days into sims - looked like 1 follicle and we were afraid it was empty
    IVF 5 - Canceled -  looked like 1 follicle and we were afraid it was empty
    IVF 6 - 3 mature, 2 fertalized 1 made it to day 5 and sent for PGS

    Sent in IVF round 3 and 6 (4 embryos) for PGS testing and got 2 normal embryos!!!  1Boy and 1Girl. Took a little over a year to get those two embryos so demanded all sorts of test prior to attempting transfer. Did EFT, ERA and NK Cells testing.

    FET#1 - Intralipid drips, Prednisone, and did a depot lupron shot before starting the FET protocol
    Chemical pregnancy
    FET#2 - PGS normal boy - BFN
    Natural pregnancy - cycle following the FET2????   Miscarriage at 8 weeks.  viability scan had shown an enlarged yolk sac so I had been warned that it was likely not chromosonally normal :(

    DEIVF cycle - picked a donor who is willing to be open! Her cycle resulted in in 4 PGS Normal embryos
    1st transfer - chemical pregnancy
    2nd transfer - success, May 17 2020 due date!
  • @c-town18@Hopeful_mom@hopefuljj thanks! One thing I’m starting to definitely realize is that this whole process is not a science. There are so many things that shouldn't happen but do, and things that do happen but shouldn't. My RE tried to talk me into DE. With an original AMH of .24 she wasn't very hopeful, but she at least let me go through this entire process the way I wanted to.  I'm trying not to ride the roller coaster of emotional ups and downs but this process makes it hard. 

  • Hi everyone! @hopefuljj thinking about you and crossing everything for tomorrow! @31magnolia it sounds like things are going well! Lucky dust your way for a good cycle. @emmasemm it must be exciting to be able to share the news. That’s just awesome for you ❤️ Warms the cockles of my lil heart!

    AFM went to the RE today to talk about the next cycle. AMH is now plummeted to .02. LH/FSH are high with no sign of ovulation so we’re starting the estrace for 10-12 days to go into my next stim cycle. Hard not to be crushed by the new AMH numbers. Plus somehow everyone decided to bring their kids into the fertility clinic today. I know in my head that I’m being awful but in my heart I just hate them for showing me what I can’t have. If they’re spouse is with them I especially wonder why they don’t leave them at home. 

    If you all all bring your kids to the clinic, I don’t really hate you! I’m just mired in my own shit ❤️
  • Thanks for everyone's kind words and rooting for this cycle, first scan didn't go well.  Nothing there and E2 level is very low.  RE has cancelled the cycle.  Not sure if worth trying anything else with OE or just move on to DE.
  • @Imajin99 they canceled your cycle after the first scan? That seems fast. I canceled as late as stim day 9. Last cycle I didn’t get an E2 rise until day 6 or 7 or something. I feel you. I don’t know if I should even do this cycle with my last AMH results. Hugs ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
  • Hi all. So I had my follow up today. Looks like even though I have the 12 follicles, only 3 of them are moving at a steady pace. Left ovary, nothing over 10. Right ovary, 17.3, 17.2, 16, 12.10, 11.8, 11.5. That's a little disappointing. Doctor has increased my menopur to 225 tonight and 300 tomorrow for two final push days. They are thinking that I will trigger on Thursday night. I'm a little disappointed given the number of follicles (12) at the baseline appointment and simply because I know there might not be an egg in all of them and the eggs might not be mature enough. I also don't see how the lower three are going to catch up, but the doctor wants to try. 
  • @Imajin99 (hugs) What stim day is this of the cycle? Did your E2 rise any since the baseline?
  • lucyb1954 - I would secretly roll my eyes at the women who would bring their kids to the fertility clinic too!  C'mon people, have some tact!  Ugh, sorry about the AMH decrease. The good news is that you're moving forward though right?  

    Imajin99 - Ugh, I'm sorry.  I'm sure you're beyond frustrated.  Hugs to you. 

    31magnolia - I wouldn't be surprised if some of those smaller ones caught up.  I know you're disappointed after such a great baseline though.  When do you go back in?  
  • Thanks @c-town18. I hope so.  I know the main concern should be quality and that’s what I’m trying to focus on.  My next appointment is Thursday. 
  • hopefuljj - *TW* - Yup, I would have extreme anxiety at every U/S all the way through the second trimester.  That feeling never 100% went away either.  I swear I have some form of PTSD from the infertility bullshit and repeat losses. People think I'm being dramatic when I say that but I'm totally serious. As you said, just keep reminding yourself that you used a young and likely healthy egg and the odds are in your favor finally.  
  • @hopefuljj I’m so glad you posted I was thinking about you today but didn’t want to harass you 🤓 I know it must be terrifying at this point but I’m excited for you and sending ❤️ I’m so impressed with your clinic. I felt like a horrible person hating on these people with all their kids but it is really kind of traumatizing. Like it’s so not fair. So so so not fair that I can’t have even one. I wish my clinic would post a sign like that. 

    The AMH number was a little surprising, I guess it shouldn’t have been. It was .35 9 months ago I guess the only consolation is that last cycle I got two eggs so there’s some potential there. My AFC is usually 9-11, which weirdly doesn’t match up to the AMH indicator but idk. I still cried about it. 

    @31magnolia good luck at your appointment tomorrow! I hope those other follies are catching up but at least you have 3 that sound like they’ll be mature. I hope they’re golden AF!
  • @lucyb1954 Thanks!! I don’t get how the AFC and AMH work together either. And I’ve definitely have heard of ppl having success with AMH numbers like yours. I’ve also read where the AMH level went down really low and then went back up. Each time the doctor hasn’t been able to explain why. I totally understand the crying though. I had my own breakdown several weeks ago.  I’m sending lots of positive thoughts your way!
  • @hopefuljj oh wow! I am so so relieved! <3  And believe me, if you’re anything like me every single scan will be like this. You’ll feel good for a few days, then start wondering what’s gone wrong since... it is ptsd... most important is your clinic and later your OB are sensitive to this. We don’t for example measure my blood pressure in office as the stress of the appointment sends it through the roof so I do all my blood pressure monitoring at home and take in my records. But step by step youll get through it. What helps me is my little board that I make every day which says “today we are x weeks and x days pregnant” with the latest scan pic under it. This is like a daily ritual/mantra. I do it first thing in the morning. I photograph it and no matter where I am all day I can look at it if I’m feeling nervous. Do come join us on PAIF. You will find others who feel the same as us there.

    @lucyb1954 so actually below around 0.8 most AMH numbers will be affected by the variations possible within lab results. I was told +/-0.3 basically means no change if you’re under 0.8. Mine moved around between 0.2 to 0.6 over the last year. So don’t panic at one number. If it was suddenly undetectable then that’s a bit different... And I know it’s disappointing to be cancelled before you even start but I hope this means your dr is trying to pick your best possible baseline to give you the best chance. I got cancelled twice at the start and twice part way through - part way through was tougher to be honest as you’d put a lot more effort and money into it by then.
    And with fragile x it is normal that the afc is higher than the AMH would indicate, but the response to stims is normally more in line with the AMH than the afc. 

    @31magnolia have you been tested for fragile x? Other than vitamin d that’s the only other “common” reason for an AMH and afc that don’t tie up. Or maybe you might see your left ovary has antral follicles but they don’t mature for some reason? Have you had the blood flow to that ovary checked? Your right ovary does seem to be doing pretty well. If you’d had 12 follicles develop together then you pretty much wouldn’t have DOR... that would be an above average response. 8 mature eggs retrieved  is considered “normal” remember. It was probably unfair of your dr not to warn you that not all 12 would develop. Expectation management is really important during this process. Hope you see a nice bunch of around the same size at your next appointment.

    In a spoiler as lots of PAIF talk
    AFM just trying to not freak out as I wait for my next scan. Still a week to go. The two private places that do scan packages are not available- one on vacation and therefore the other fully booked... and I don’t want to bother my OB unless there is a medical concern... so instead I’ve taken to measuring my small bump every day. As long as it’s growing slowly I assume all is ok inside. I’m checking my cervix more often than I did for ovulation!!! Any hint of that sucker shortening or opening and I’ll be in that Ob office! Cutting down progesterone *might* have me a little bit freaked out  :D


    Me 43 DH 45
    Married 12/2016
    TTC #1 since 04/2015
    AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
    7 retrievals, 3 transfers
    Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
    Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
    Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
    Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
    Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
    Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
    Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
    Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
    Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
    Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
    Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
    Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
    Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality 

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  • @emmasemm thanks! As usual you’re an incredible font of information. I was really hoping the AFC was good news but oh well! Also it was @Imajin99 who got canceled not me 🤓 I’m still in the estrogen priming phase.  where are you at in weeks right now? Excited for both you and @hopefuljj !

    @31magnolia how was the scan today?
  • @lucyb1954 @imajin99 oops sorry ladies - I’m blaming pregnancy brain!
    But the AMH comments still works for one and the cancellation comment for the other! 
    Today I am 15+5
    Me 43 DH 45
    Married 12/2016
    TTC #1 since 04/2015
    AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
    7 retrievals, 3 transfers
    Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
    Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
    Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
    Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
    Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
    Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
    Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
    Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
    Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
    Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
    Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
    Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
    Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality 

    Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return

  • @emmanemm thanks for all that information! I have not been tested for Fragile X. I will need to look that up. I do have a vitamin d deficiency. I always have. So I'm constantly  on and off D supplements to bring it up. I've had it as low as 10 and as high as 32. What's strange is my left ovary had follicles that would mature during the IUI process late last year and early this year, but for some reason it's not happening in the IVF cycle. Seems like my doctor is attributing it to my age (43), which is kind of annoying. It was also unfair for her to tell me that I only had one follicle a month ago (down from 7 a year ago) and also make it seem like that was attributed to my age and AMH. The ultrasound person told me the other day that they sometimes can't see your follicles if they are really small. She said the tissue mass and follicles will all blend together. But they don't tell you that ahead of time. 

    @lucyb1954 my ultrasound was eventful! mainly because we are in the middle of a storm and i thought the electricity was going to go out while she doing the exam. But luckily we made it through the ultrasound and the electricity went out during the consult with the nurse. Lol. My follicles on the right are 20.6, 19.8, 17.6, 15.9, 15.10, 13.5, and 11.6. The doctor wants to push me out at least one more day and have me come back tomorrow. I'm guessing she wasn't to see if she can get the 15s any larger. I'm just surprised, because I thought if I triggered tonight that that would automatically push them to continue to grow. So my SO and I were able to get to a pharmacy after several hours (roads are flooded out) and get the extra meds for tonight. All in all great news. I was actually really scared last night that I'd already ovulated because I started to have strong cramps, but I guess all was ok. 
  • 31magnolia - Those follicle measurements sound great!  OMG how awesome.  
  • @c-town18 thanks! just got the OK from the RE to trigger tonight. Finally numbers are 24, 22, 19, 18, 17, 16, 13, and 12 on the right. The left finally decided to produce a 12 as well. Not expecting much from the low sized, but hopefully good quality from the others. ER will be Sunday!
  • @31magnolia those are great numbers! What an exciting ultrasound adventure, hope everything is okay now and not flooded out. 

    @emmasemm can’t believe you’re already almost at 16 weeks! Woot!
  • @lucyb1954 haha. Thanks. It definitely had my anxiety level high! But every thing is ok now. 
    I triggered last night and go in tomorrow for the ER. 

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