TWW Thursday 7/18

bows22 · July 2019

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Month/Cycle:

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Timing:

Typical LP length:

Testing:

R/R:

CS/Q:

whattheavocado · July 2019

Month/Cycle: 5

CD/DPO: CD25/11DPO

Timing: CD11, CD13, CD14 (confirmed ovulation on CD14)

Typical LP length: 11-13, this is my first month using bbt so it's my first time actually confirming ovulation with a temp rise. Until now I've been guesstimating my LP based on OPK's.

Testing: I'll be waiting until a missed period in potentially 3 days, if that ever happens (just kidding I'll start testing frantically once I get my period as I have done in the past trying to convince myself it's not a 'real' period 🙉). Though I hope I have the fortitude to wait it out and have some acceptance this time round.

R/R: I love podcasts, my commute to and from work is roughly an hour each way and they can really help me switch off from my job. But alas, I feel like I have listened to all of them, I particularly love true crime ones! Now I have to wait each week for one episode from favourites, patience was never a strength of mine!

babyodo · July 2019

Month/Cycle: 3/3

CD/DPO: 15/1 (though FF says 3DPO)

Timing: -3 (FF says -1)

Typical LP length: 15ish days

Testing: Not for a while yet

R/R: Still frustrated with MH's lack of interest in BDing during the week. At this rate, if we only HIO on weekends, we're never going to get KU.

CS/Q: What is a more reliable predictor for O - a positive OPK or temp rise? If we go based on BBT I O'ed on Monday, which would put our timing as excellent (-1), but based on the positive OPK I got on Tuesday, I O'ed yesterday, which means our timing wasn't so great (-3). And I know I have dotted CH because of this conflict in data, so IDK. Whatevs.

b_1029 · July 2019

@whattheavocado haha I totally understand testing just in case a period isn’t really one 😂

@ttcbabyodo I’m sorry about YH’s lack of interest. A more reliable predictor is a +OPK because a temp rise happens after O and basically just gives you a retrospective day for ovulation. I feel like FF could be right on O day because my basic understanding of BBT is that it rises after the egg is released, plus your CM changed from fertile to non. When did you do the OPK(s) on CD 12? You could’ve tested in the middle of your LH rise on CD 13- FX!

edited- forgot to put my stuff!

Month/Cycle: 20/21

CD/DPO: 25/12

Timing: great

Typical LP length: 14-15

Testing: BFN yesterday so probably just WFAF

R/R: the RE appointment went well yesterday (update in the IF thread) so I’m happy about that! My cousins are coming to visit me tonight - Sunday. I feel bad that I’ll have to leave them for a while for DH’s “step grandpa” funeral services but they should be able to entertain themselves for a while. It’s my WFH day but it’s full of back to back meetings, so that’s lame.

CS/Q: another restless night. I seriously hate summer and when it’s disgustingly hot weather like this.

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babyodo · July 2019

Thanks for the insight @b_1029! I took the OPK at around 3pm on CD12, and it wasn't with concentrated urine (had only been holding it about 2 hours). I got a faint pink line on an internet cheapie and an open circle on a CB digital, which is why I tested again at lunchtime on CD13 when I got my peak (with concentrated urine). So, it's possible I was actually O'ing on CD12 and didn't know it because of my inability to not drink a sh*t ton of water in this heat, lol.

b_1029 · July 2019

@ttcbabyodo ugh not sure where you are, but the heat is brutal! Hopefully that’s the case so you had great timing,!

babyodo · July 2019

I'm in Virginia (near the coast), where we're currently experiencing a brutal heat wave. The worst of it will be on Saturday, with an expected heat index of 113F.

bluetickgal · July 2019

Month/Cycle: 14/9/4 AL

CD/DPO: 20/3

Timing: Good

Typical LP length: 14-16

Testing: BW tomorrow to confirm O...then will WFAF.

R/R: It’s almost the weekend...and my boss is out tomorrow and most of next week! He isn’t a micro-manager or anything, but it’s always more relaxed when he is out!

CS/Q: No, just happy to get CH’s this morning!

@whattheavocado I feel ya on the testing when AF arrives...I test basically to make sure I’m ok to start meds again, but I always have a glimmer of hope to see a positive even though it’s clear AF has arrived! That is a long commute...have you tried audio books?

@ttcbabyodo sorry your DH still isn’t cooperating during the week. Fingers crossed FF is correct and your O was on Monday!

@b_1029 so happy your RE appt. went well yesterday! Hopefully your cousins will understand and can entertain themselves for a bit...sorry for your family’s loss!

bows22 · July 2019

Lurking from wto - @ttcbabyodo that’s a pretty clear temp shift so I agree with @b_1029 that you probably just caught the end of your surge. I don’t you need to worry about your timing!

flowntheloop · July 2019

Month/Cycle: 5/5

CD/DPO: 15/1

Timing: very good, EOD to ED. So far: -5, -3, -1, 0...
Not exactly sure of ovulation time, but cervical position and mucus consistency point to ovulation being yesterday. Definitely in the SHOW position! I'm finally starting to feel the differences in cervical position and texture at different times of the month, and it is so interesting!

Typical LP length: ~15 days

Testing: Will likely wait until I miss a period.

R/R:
Rant: It isn't Friday yet. :P
Rave: Plenty of BD/HIO this week! Despite my hubby being on overtime, we have made some extra time in the evenings for winding down (which sometimes leads to getting wound up in other ways LOL).

CS/Q:

flowntheloop · July 2019

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flowntheloop · July 2019

@whattheavocado Sounds like you need to branch out on your podcasts! My hubby loves listening to sci-fi and horror podcasts on the way to work (he also has a long drive).

@ttcbabyodo Awww, sorry to hear about your hubby's lack of interest this go 'round. We have all been there! It is sometimes hard to take a step back and remember that they can have bad days/weeks/months too! Is there anything bothering him? Or is the TTGP process stressing him out in general? My hubby and I had to take a more casual approach because there was just WAY too much pressure with scheduled HIO/BDing.

@bluetickgal SO ready for this weekend too!

@b_1029 I feel you on the summer heat when trying to sleep! Blahhhhh! I've heard that taking a cold shower RIGHT before you get in the bed can help drop down your temp enough to help you relax?

mvt2003 · July 2019

@whattheavocado Ohhhhh super same. I have taken more than one test literally while I have AF "just in case".

@ttcbabyodo I agree with @bows22 and @b_1029 that I think you caught the end of the surge - go with the temps on this one. I also sympathize with mid-week BD issues! It helps for me that we're now so far into this that MH is now getting questions from people about when we'll have a baby, so he's feeling motivated about the topic lol.

@b_1029 I'm so happy you had a great appt - I'll jump to the IF thread to get the details. Thinking of you in this heat!

@bluetickgal It's such a relaxing feeling when the boss isn't in - even if they're a good boss! Great early start to the weekend!

@flowntheloop I'm so interested in cervical position! I feel like I still haven't gotten the hang of understanding it yet. Maybe next cycle!

Month/Cycle: 10/10

CD/DPO: 26/10

Timing: Good

Typical LP length: 12-14

Testing: Holding out for tomorrow/Saturday

R/R: I stayed home from work today because I just can't shake this cough, and it's just taking it out of me. Hanging on the couch with my knitting and the pup, I'm going to drink lots of water and maybe some tea.

CS/Q: Saw a slight temp drop this morning, thinking it may be the start of my AF temp drop coming. Resigning myself to it not being the month since I was really hoping to see it continue to rise.

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babyodo · July 2019

flowntheloop said:

@whattheavocado Sounds like you need to branch out on your podcasts! My hubby loves listening to sci-fi and horror podcasts on the way to work (he also has a long drive).

@ttcbabyodo Awww, sorry to hear about your hubby's lack of interest this go 'round. We have all been there! It is sometimes hard to take a step back and remember that they can have bad days/weeks/months too! Is there anything bothering him? Or is the TTGP process stressing him out in general? My hubby and I had to take a more casual approach because there was just WAY too much pressure with scheduled HIO/BDing.

@bluetickgal SO ready for this weekend too!

@b_1029 I feel you on the summer heat when trying to sleep! Blahhhhh! I've heard that taking a cold shower RIGHT before you get in the bed can help drop down your temp enough to help you relax?

I think it's a combination of him working long hours at his new job, and his naivete about the whole TTC process. I had spoken about it in the WTO dailies this week, but it seems he thinks that to him sex = pregnant, when in reality there is so much more to it than that. If only it were that easy! Especially now that we're older, it's a whole lot more complicated. And I think if I were to sit him down and explain all of the delicate intricacies about TTGP, he would just get overwhelmed (as you mentioned above) and wish I hadn't told him.

mvt2003 · July 2019

@ttcbabyodo Ooooh you have literally just described the first 6 months of my TTC. MH was completely uninterested in details, and tbh was actively asking me not to provide them, just tell him when we needed to HIO, and did not comprehend that there are multiple fertile days in a row in a month and then nothing. It took at least 6 months for him to realize that actual work would need to be done on this.

He's still not fully into the details, but he does understand now that we need to do it on certain days and asks for opk updates. Unfortunately if you think explaining it all would be more harm than good you're probably right, but keep hope that he eventually will realize there's more to it than what he currently thinks.

mvt2003 · July 2019

@ttcbabyodo just to illustrate my point, MH had a text convo with a friend where he was point blank asked what our TTC plans are (rude, but ok then) and his response was that we've been trying for a year but we didn't really take it seriously until 6 months ago. Excuse me?

I believe I have *always* been taking this seriously but ok...

kpearse99 · July 2019

@whattheavocado we just finished a true crime podcast called "Root of Evil" have you listened to it yet? It's really good! It's about the Black Dahlia murder.

@b_1029 so glad your RE appt. went well! (creepily heading over to IF thread to get the deets!)

@flowntheloop I love having the evening hours with my hubby!

Month/Cycle: 9 / 7 (AL)

CD/DPO: 20 / 5 (estimating the DPO)

Timing: Not the best... maybe pathetic even. I'm guessing I O'd on CD 15-ish... which puts us at -3 and O for our timing. I/we really weren't feeling "in the mood" this month for some reason and I really didn't want to force HIO to happen (DH really hates planning in sex time, don't we all though?!?!, so I didn't want to push). I think subconsciously I really needed a mental break from TTC.

Typical LP length: Somewhere between 11-15 days, I think. (With last cycle being really long and out of the norm I feel really thrown off)

Testing: I have zero expectations so I'm definitely WFAF

R/R:
Rant: It isn't Friday yet. :P (I'm keeping this from @flowntheloop 's post!
Rave: Our furniture company couldn't repair the large "pop" in our leather sofa so they are giving us full credit for a new couch!! We picked it out last night and it should arrive early next week... #winning

Also, we go to the RE tomorrow for our follow up consultation, now that all of our testing has been done (and came back great and normal!). So I'll have answers as to what his plan is going to be for us!

CS/Q:

mvt2003 · July 2019

@whattheavocado I second @kpearse99 on Root of Evil! It was really good! I also liked The Shrink Next Door, Bear Brook, Heaven's Gate, Uncover Escaping Nxivm, and Gladiator. I'm currently listening to Confronting OJ, Crime Junkie, The Murder Squad, All Killa No Filla, and I saw a new podcast coming called The Clearing that I think will be my next running podcast. Yes, I do run with true crime podcasts going, and YES it does scare the crap out of me sometimes

kpearse99 · July 2019

@mvt2003 holy moly, girl! That is a lot of podcasts

How do you sleep at night with that much true crime in your life?!?! hahaha I'm going to have to check some of those out! Are those ongoing podcasts or just for the one story? I prefer to listen to ones that have "endings" so to speak... and don't keep going for multiple seasons...

mvt2003 · July 2019

@kpearse99 Actually, the reason there is so many is because I also prefer ones with "endings"!

All of the ones I listed that I've finished are contained stories, most have like 6-8 episodes, and since I listen at 1.5x speed, I typically grind through them pretty quickly between my commute and running. All Killa No Filla, Crime Junkie, and Murder Squad are ongoing, but each one covers a single story. AKNF is a monthly episode (love that, less pressure), and Crime Junkie and Murder Squad are one per week.

flowntheloop · July 2019

@mvt2003 There is a definite learning curve. It is so alien and strange at first! For the first couple of cycles I was like WTF is all of this?

@kpearse99 Cherish every moment!

ruby696 · July 2019

At an appt, so I'll be back for tags.

Month/Cycle: 20/

CD/DPO: 11dpo

Timing: Great

Typical LP length: 10-12

Testing: BFN this morning. So I've pretty much thrown in the towel this cycle.

R/R: Even though I got a BFN, I'm excited that my LP has lasted 11 days with no spotting! And I'm ordering BC today to start my IVF cycle, so I'm starting to get pretty excited about that. Hoping AF shows up in the next day or so.

CS/Q: Chart in spoiler.

ruby696 · July 2019

@kpearse99 Good luck tomorrow!

@mvt2003 Your chart still looks really good. FX your temp goes up tomorrow.

@flowntheloop Nice to see you here! It seems like we're never on the dailies together.

@b_1029 WTH?? We were supposed to be magical unicorns together this cycle. This is stupid.

flowntheloop · July 2019

@ruby696 I know! It has been a while! I hope AF gets here quickly so you can start your next cycle!

bluetickgal · July 2019

@flowntheloop that’s awesome you are understanding cervical position & texture...I’ve tried and have no clue what I’m feeling to know if it’s soft/hard or opened/closed. 🤷🏼‍♀️

@mvt2003 hopefully a day at home is just what you need to get to feeling better!

@kpearse99 yay for a replacement sofa!! Hope your RE appt. goes well tomorrow and you get a plan of action going forward that you are happy with!

@ruby696 sorry for the BFN, but yay for getting the IVF cycle going soon!

I’ve never listened to a podcast (DH listens to them at work but they are political, sports, or video-game related), I feel like I want to check some of these out now!

sevenn · July 2019

@whattheavocado - add me to the list of true crime podcasts during commute. my favorites are the BBC Missing and Murdered series, and I recently listened to Bear Brook. There was a real-time update on Bear Brook right after I finished, so that was really cool
@ttcbabyodo - so hard. for us, workday sex goes over a lot better if it is done in the morning!
@b_1029 - so glad your RE appts went well!
@bluetickgal - welcome back to TWW!
@mvt2003 - hope you feel better soon, ugh and sorry about drop

Month/Cycle: 9/9

CD/DPO: 17/8

Timing: -2, -1

Typical LP length: 14d

Testing: realistically probably tomorrow

R/R: this cycle is so whack. i swear my boobs are a lot less sore, but this morning i had the kind of uterine tenderness where my seatbelt hurt. i woke up at some point in the middle of the night and had no idea what time it was, decided to temp and it was below CL so i decided that i'm going to pretend that didn't happen.

CS/Q: sloppy temping makes for sad chart

flowntheloop · July 2019

@bluetickgal I've been attempting it off and on for a few months now. I'm just now STARTING to get the hang of it. I've started to take notes and watch my calendar, and things are making a lot more sense! My main advice is to always check it whilst in the same position (I usually squat down on the floor)!

I had an AHA moment this month with it! Just keep trying!

NYTino24 · July 2019

@ruby696 That is so disappointing. What a rise, too. You have a good attitude about next cycle.

@kpearse99 What a win on the couch! What are you going to do?

@mvt2003 dips here and there can be okay! You are still above the coverline.

kpearse99 · July 2019

@NYTino24 we've always had a small sectional in the living room so we are changing it up this time with a sofa and what's called a Chair and a Half... so slightly smaller than a loveseat. I can't wait!

@ruby696 I'm sorry for the BFN today, but I love how you're finding the silver lining and really looking forward to the next chapter for you!

b_1029 · July 2019

@bluetickgal glad you'll get a more chill day at work tomorrow! and thank you!

@flowntheloop it's exciting when you can catch on! I stopped trying to do cervical position because I couldn't figure it out unless it was definitely high hah. I'm glad you and YH have been having fun! I'll have to try the cold shower trick.

@mvt2003 bleh I'm sorry you're still sick! I'm glad you were able to stay home and enjoy some time with the pup.

@kpearse99 lol to "pathetic" timing. -3 and O aren't bad at all!! That's awesome about the new couch! Can't wait to hear how your RE appt goes tomorrow!

@ruby696 that's awesome about your LP - I'm excited for you! Sorry for the BFN, but I'm glad you'll be able to start the IVF process so soon!

@sevenn FX those are good signs for you! Your lower temp was probably just because you weren't temping at your normal time. I know when I do the online BBT adjuster, if I temp late, it always adjusts the temp to be lower (I literally have no idea if that made any sense)

babyodo · July 2019

@sevenn - oh how I wish it were that easy! LOL! MH gets up for work at 3:15am. Ain't nobody feel like doing the dirty at that time in the morning, haha. If we got up at the same time, or if either of us were morning people, then that would be ideal, but yeah, mid-week morning sex is not for us.

See, now, if we were able to come home to DTD at lunchtime, now that is something I can go for. I only live 12 minutes from work, but he's almost an hour away, so ehh. Oh well.

whattheavocado · July 2019

@bluetickgal I hear you on the audio books and I have tried but I'm hardcore for real books, I love the whole experience of reading books.

@mvt2003 @kpearse99 @sevenn thank you for the suggestions, I've just started Bear Brook as a result and love it. There are some others I've added to my list now too. Crime junkie is a long time favourite. @mvt2003 I also listen when running or walking my dog and it's usually dark too, plenty of people think I'm mad.

@ttcbabyodo I'm sorry it's been challenging with BDing. My partner also starts work super early and is just exhausted after work. We're still getting our timing right but each cycle it just feels more choresome I guess. He also seems to think sex=pregnant no matter how much I try to explain it, so I feel ya!

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