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PGS and failed cycle?

Questions for anyone going through it. Has anyone gone through an IVF cycle, had PGS done, transferred blasts with no abnormalities and still had a failed cycle? We are just starting bcp this month with ER scheduled for any time between 3/30 and 4/3. Just wondering how much having PCS testing helps?!

Re: PGS and failed cycle?

  • I have read that many people have had success with PGS. Unfortunately I have not. My first transfer didn’t take but we did find out I needed an additional 24 hours of progesterone so I want to believe that was why. My second FET took but I lost it at 6 weeks. I don’t know what the answer is but I do want to believe that it does more good than harm.
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  • I’m sorry this happened to you. I’m at the beginning of my journey but do plan to PGS test, just to find the golden egg. I would feel so sad too, knowing the normal one didn’t take. What are you going to do? 
  • We still have 3 “normal” PGS embryos frozen so I feel like I have to follow through. My loss was on Friday so it’s very fresh. I have a consult on the 26th. I’m hoping they are able to do some more testing before we move forward and there are some additional things I am hoping they will add to my protocol.
  • I still believe it’s the right choice. I’m so happy to hear you have three more! Don’t give up. 
  • I had both - a success and a failure of normal PGS tested embryos. When the failed one didn't take, my RE said it could have been a number of factors affecting the result. Just did my third retrieval and planning to do PGS testing again. I think for me personally, it saves time and heartache transferring possibly abnormal embryos that may result in a miscarriage/birth defects/etc. 
    ***History & TW in Spoiler***

    ***bfp & child warning***
    TTC - since 2014
    7 rounds of Clomid - BFN
    IUI #1 - October 2015 - BFN
    IUI #2 - November 2015 - BFN
    IUI #3 - December 2015 - BFN
    IVF #1 - March 2016
    Retrieval #1 - April 2016
    FET #1 - May 2016 - BFP!!! DS - Born January 2017
    Trying for baby #2...
    FET #2 - January 2018 - BFN  
    No more embryos left; switched to a new RE
    IVF/Retrieval #2 - January 2019
    IVF/Retrieval #3 - March 2019
    FET #3 - April 2019 - BFP!!! - DD: Born December 2019
    Trying for baby #3...
    FET #4 - October 2021 - BFP!!! - Due June 2022


  • Agreed. Our PGS fee is the same for 1-10 embryos so I’m going to try my hardest to get up to 10 with a few banking rounds of mini IVF. I just don’t have that many follicles. After all of this time, money, effort and emotional stress-I agree that testing will help us emotionally in the long run. 
  • I love that we had the option of PGS. For our circumstances with multiple known chromosomal losses, it made sense and we hope for the best when we use our one tested embryo next month. Unfortunately, PGS is not a perfect solution, it can only test the number of chromosomes are correct, but it cannot test for all the other reasons why a FET doesn’t work, miscarriages happen, or god forbid other non life-compatible issues come up during pregnancy. We all just have to decide if the testing is right for us, take it one day at a time, and hope for the best.

    @ktrabing all the best for your journey and that it’s successful.
  • Thanks ladies! I feel like its definitely the right choice for us to do the PGS testing. Helps have a piece of mind that we are doing everything we can to make this a success as soon as possible.
  • I just went through this, I had three losses at around 7-8 weeks plus numerous chemical pregnancies over 3 years so decided to go the PGS route. I ended up with five normal embryos (from 23 eggs retrieved) and transferred the first one on Feb 21st. Currently 6 weeks pregnant and anxiously awaiting my first ultrasound on the 25th. I was like you, this was our last shot at becoming parents so I wanted to know we had tried everything before giving up. Really hoping this one is our long-awaited rainbow. Good luck!
  • What about PGD? Does that help too since PGS only checks for chromosomes 
  • I have the same question about PGD! I just had my consultation for IVF and while I'm soon turning 30, my clinic basically pulls out all the stops and said they do the PGD testing to make sure we're transferring the best embyros.

    I know the difference a little bit, but not really sure I understand. Is PGD testing more conclusive than PGS?
    *TW* History
    TTC #1 since 7.2017
    Dx: low morph (1%), ANA positive, low decidualization score, high TSH and testosterone, histone antibodies

    IUI #1-3 all BFN
    IVF #1 | 6.11.19 | 24R, 17M, 15F, 6B, PGT-A tested - 5 normal, 3 girls & 2 boys
    FET #1 | 9.10.19 | BFN "I know you, but we've never met. I'm with you, but I don't know your name"
    RPL, Receptiva, & ERA testing | all normal/negative, recommended going on gluten and dairy free diet for next FET
    FET #2 | 3.31.20 | Opted to cancelled due to pandemic, continued diet and tried naturally over the summer
    2nd Opinion with another RE | 8.20.20 | Not immune to measles (received 1 dose); SA results similar to 2 years ago; decided to move forward with FET #2 redo at start of next cycle
    Surprise natural BFP! | 9.22.20 | MC 10.23.20 at 8 weeks
    TTCAL naturally | starting 11.22.20

    Initial consultation with Reproductive Immunologist | 9.14.21
    Decidualization score biopsy | 10.1.21 | abnormal - low score of 1; endometrial scratch recommended and progesterone supplementation
    Saline sono | 10.15.21 | normal
    Bloodwork | 10.21.21 high TSH, high testosterone, positive for anti-nuclear antibodies and histone antibodies, high protein S, multiple genetic mutations
    BFP! | 11.3.21 | EDD 7.14.22 B) | biopsy provided same effect as endometrial scratch; added supplemental progesterone and estrogen, prednisone, levothyroxine, and MTX Support to maintain pregnancy
    DS born 7.19.22 after induction


    TTC #2 begins 6.2023
    Consultation with RI | 6.6.23
    Saline sono, endometritis biopsy, skin & eye check | all normal
    Labs | high TSH, Factor XIII mutation, high %CD56
    Follow up | 8.8.23 | prescribed metformin, prednisone, plaquenil, and levothyroxine
    Repeat labs after 3 weeks on meds
    Follow up | 11.9.23 | Green light!, increase in prednisone, added lovenox
    Repeat labs in 8 weeks
    Follow up | 1.16.24 | Green light continues
    TTC ended due to filing divorce

    **New relationship starting May 2024**

    Surprise BFP!! | 9.7.25 | EDD 5.11.26
    Its Gonna Be May GIFs  Tenor
  • My clinic does not recommend PGS testing for under 35s with no RPL (I had 1 prior m/c so didn't qualify). We transferred two untested blasts, both stuck, but only one made it out of the first trimester (vanishing twin @ 8 weeks). PGS testing basically just looks to see that you are transferring embryos with normal numbers of chromosomes and it is not a guarantee -- I have had friends transfer PGS embies which stuck but still miscarried prior to 12 weeks. They are currently looking to see if there are more issues.  Currently research is probing whether or not PGS testing is even really accurate.

    PGD testing generally looks for specific genetic issues and is used commonly by people who are known carriers for specific defects. We have at least one lady on the forums here who is specifically using PGD to find embryos that do not carry a certain defect so she might be able to provide more insight -- I just don't remember her name :-( 
    ~~ Our Story in Spoiler! TW loss/child~~
    Fall 2012 -- started TTC
    Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE
    Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016.
    September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo.
    Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC
    June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice.
    August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP.  Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18
    September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks
    March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!

    TTC #2
    January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle 
    March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156,  #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!


    "When all is lost then all is found."


  • pgdwivfpgdwivf member
    edited March 2019
    Hello Ladies I had all my embryos PGD tested for the chromosome I carry for Hemophilia. For PGD testing they take a cheek swab from me and my husband as well as my parents to create a specialized test for our embryos.  I also had a genetics test initially to confirm I was a carrier. I have heard this can be done for other genetic diseases. While PGS is looking for abnormalities PGD is looking for that 1 chromosome carrying a disease.
    Currently I am awaiting FET. I had a fibroid show up in my pre FET hysteroscopy so I will undergo surgery to remove it early April.
    We do have one "unaffected" which was PGD/PGS tested. Hoping to transfer in May. We also have one "no result" meaning it will need to be re-tested. One female carrier (like me) which does not have Hemophilia but carries the gene. Three PGS abnormals one of which was PGD affected,

    Any other questions, Feel free to ask away! Prayers and positive thoughts to All of you on this journey.
    Me and DH 44
    I am a genetic carrier using PGD testing
    Dec 2018 ER = 0 PGS normal embryos
    Jan 2019 ER = 1 PGD/ PGS normal embryo, 1 carrier embryo, 1 no result
    April 2019 Hysteroscopy to remove polyp and Fibroid
    May 2019 FET = BFN
    September 2019 FET = BFN
    Dec 2019 ER = 1 carrier embryo 
    Mar ER = 0 PGS normal embryos
    July 2020 ER = 0 PGS normal embryos
    October 2020 Hysteroscopy to remove polyps
    Nov 2020 FET = positive (little one due July 2021)
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