May 2019 Moms

Monday Bitchfest 12/24 - special holiday edition

Vent about your MIL, stupid Christmas movies, last minute shopping, holidays in general, New Years Eve (ugh), etc.

LET IT OUT

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Re: Monday Bitchfest 12/24 - special holiday edition

  • My mom had her annual xmas eve eve party last night which is mostly attended by her country club friends. They're all pretty cool except for one woman who I can't stand - she's always making very snobby and rude comments. For example, H and I had a 2 year engagement so that we could save money for our wedding and take our time with planning. This woman's daughter got engaged after me and got married before me (with $ and planning help from her mom/dad), and for some reason this woman thought this was very brag-worthy and would make snarky little comments about how her daughter was beating me/she was beating my mom, or whatever. 

    This woman has also been not shy at all about her desire to be a grandmother and even told her daughter she should come back from her honeymoon pregnant (this was 3 years ago). I don't believe her daughter is even trying to start a family - although I would feel bad if she is and not getting lucky - however there are no grandchildren yet. So, I imagine this woman is a little bitter that I'm on baby #2. I recall her making a few tasteless comments when I was pregnant with DD and unloading some bad unsolicited advice on me, but I got pretty pissed off last night at the party when she stumbled up to me, disgustingly pointed at my bump, and said - "you already look like that and you're not due until May?" and then kind of eyerolled and walked away. Wow, seriously. GFY.
    Me: 33 DH: 34
    Married: Oct 2015
    TTC #1: Sept 2016
    BFP: 10/19/16 ~ blighted ovum ~ D&C 11/23/16
    BFP: 3/24/17   <3  DD1 born 12/2/17
    TTC #2: July 2018
    BFP: 8/26/18 <3  DD2 born 5/16/19



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  • @cwell2016 ugh that's so annoying!!
    Me: 33 DH: 34
    Married: Oct 2015
    TTC #1: Sept 2016
    BFP: 10/19/16 ~ blighted ovum ~ D&C 11/23/16
    BFP: 3/24/17   <3  DD1 born 12/2/17
    TTC #2: July 2018
    BFP: 8/26/18 <3  DD2 born 5/16/19



  • Both of those situations sound so frustrating!

    Mine is that my husband prioritizes football and drinking over helping me get ready for all of the holiday stuff we have going on this week. I was in pain and exhausted last night and he just didn't seem to care. 
  • This seems super trivial but all I askedDH to do for Christmas was to fill my stocking. I “filled” his with small but meaningful items. I asked him yesterday if he filled my stocking. Nope. I got nothing. I told him over a month ago that all I wanted him to do was fill my damn stocking and I got nothing. He feels bad about it and offered to buy me an Apple Watch, which I’ve desperately wanted but we just don’t have the money for right now. Sorry for the petty rant, but come on man. I don’t ask for much.
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  • I don't have much to bitch about, but my in laws come in tomorrow, so stay tuned. 

    I guess I have a tiny bitch. I don't know if anyone remembers the crazy bil I talked about at Thanksgiving, talking about the neighbors being in the CIA and aliens and shit. The upside to my in laws coming here is he can't drive. Well, my H got a wild hair up his butt (he hates his brother) and told his dad he should invite bil down here and bring him with them. Mil is going to be PISSED. She's already so high strung during the holidays and he makes her SO mad. She literally hid in her room for HOURS after Thanksgiving dinner until he left. He's really difficult to be around. But really I have a hard time being mad. Because H did it because he knows his brother has no where to go (he lives in a boat in the woods) and knows his Dad is probably conflicted with coming here because he wants to see bil. So I'm in between "no, don't do that nobody likes him" and "aww, you're so sweet" 😂
  • @peachy13 😮😮😮 she sounds like a miserable human being, so sorry you had to deal with that. WTAF?!

  • @peachy13 that's awful. I'm sorry you had to deal with her. 
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    @cwell2016 Good on you for sticking up for yourself!! I hate it when people make me listen to them vent about how someone did them wrong but they didn't do anything about it.  I half expected you to say that you went over and helped her anyways. THANK YOU! And your husband deserves an award for sticking up for you,  too ( although This should be expected and not the exception). 

    ETA: My BF is my sister who is supposed to come over today but she won't give me a time.  To say that she is a commitment-phobe is an extreme understatement! I didn't even find out until yesterday what day she actually would be coming over.  Last week,  she literally asked me my entire schedule for this week and was like "okay I'll let you know what I decide. " Mind you,  she's single and doesn't have any kids or anything.  


  • @peachy13 sorry you had to deal with such a miserable human being.

    @cwell2016 Good for you and glad your DH backed you up too. Enjoy your day with friends

    We are not giving each other gifts with DH for Xmas as we are buying stuff for the baby in the new year, but it is his bday today. We are at my parents and I fell with a massive cold and feel like shit so I feel like I am being the shitty one to all as I don’t want to do anything 
  • My complaint is that I’m spending today in the ER. Started having right back and leg pain yesterday and thought it was just pregnancy aches but it’s much worse today. Because they checked the baby and he is ok (phew!) they are telling me it’s likely nerve pain from pregnancy and aren’t checking me out at all. I can’t even put weight on my leg. I’m thrilled the baby is fine but I’m annoyed that they’re not even trying to figure out what is wrong with the entire right side of my body. 
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    @jkduer I'm so sorry you're going through that. That does sound just like my sciatic pain with my son, but I completely understand your frustration. I basically had the same scenario with what they diagnosed as RLP this time. I'm miserable and they barely looked at me and just called it round ligament pain and suggested a belly band. It's frustrating, but in my case I don't think they're wrong and yours really does sound like it could be nerve pain. I hope you're able to find some relief soon. 
  • MIL volunteered me to make the green bean casserole for tomorrow. She told the aunt that was hosting it weeks ago that i would bring it and yet she is just telling me tonight because “ she thought i would change my mind about coming.” I have told her 20 plus times i wasnt going to christmas dinner. My mom died at christmas a few years ago- i dont celebrate Christmas anymore. Dh will be working so i am sleeping all day. So now I have to go the store so i can a side dish to a dinner im not going to. The only reason im gonna make it is because i like the aunt and dont want to put her in a jam but i think im gonna tell the family in the future to text/call me personally about these things 
  • @jkduer oh no! Hopefully they get it together and start trying to figure out what is causing the pain! Sorry you're spending the day in pain.

    My bitch is a long one, sorry in advance lol. My husband's oldest sister is a single mom of 4 who took in a foster kid no one wanted this summer. He's a great kid with some behavior issues but has made so much progress in the time my SIL has had him. Anyway we asked for christmas lists for all the kids in November and were told not to worry about the foster kid because the state provides like $300 in gifts for him and as a single mom she won't be able to do that for her kids so she was going to spread out the state gifts to the family to give her foster son so it wasn't sooo much on Christmas Day. So yesterday we were running out for any last minute stuff and I asked my husband to double check we were covered for her foster son so when we went over today to exchange gifts we didn't show up empty handed. She tells him the state gifts were not wonderful so if we wanted to get him something to do so much nothing big, a Seahawks shirt or something like that. In my mind that's not a great gift from your "uncle" especially since the other boys got RC cars from us. But we went out got the shirt, packed it up with everything else in the car for the 2.5 hour drive to my husband's family this morning. We were planning to get on the road at 10 so we could be there by 1230-1 but we get a call from my SIL at about 930 asking us to stop and pick up a Santa gift for her foster son on our way over because she didn't have time to. She lives 5 minutes from my mother in law which is where we're going. Drop the kids off and run your own damn errands🙄. Anyway she gives a list of things to get as a Santa gift one of them being an RC car which is what I wanted to get the foster son in the first place since it's what we got the other boys. So we have to go out shopping on Christmas Eve at the last minute because she doesn't have time for the gift I wanted to buy in the first place. It's now 230 and we still haven't made it to my mother in laws because of the ferry traffic on our side of the water and now highway traffic on their side of the water. I'm so ticked at the whole situation. I asked my husband repeatedly if I could just buy this kid a RC car for Christmas, even yesterday as a just in case gift. 
  • @fuscok88 holy cow that’s so obnoxious. I hate when people can’t plan ahead properly. 

    @eatinwatermelonseeds they said they don’t think it’s sciatica because of where the pain is, but some other pinched nerve higher up I guess. Who knows. 

    Overall update: My OB (who I’ve still never met) told the ER doctor he felt my pain was due to anxiety. Have I had a lot of anxiety surrounding my pregnancy? Yep. I’m very upfront about it. Two years of infertility treatments will do that to you. However having a Dr who has never met me mansplain my legitimate pain and inability to walk as anxiety really pissed me off. The ER doctor basically dismissed all my concerns after that and told me to follow up with my OB in two days. Of course they’re closed for the week. I’m seriously considering switching doctors. 
  • @jkduer I would most definitely switch doctors. F that. That's ridiculous. 
  • I agree time for a new doctor. I'm sorry you hurt. 
  • @jkduer switch doctors!! You need your OB on your side and listening to your needs not making assumptions. Hope the ER dr pays more attention to what you are feeling and find a cause and solution 
  • @jkduer TF? Most pregnant women are anxious and don't deserve to be written off like that. Idk if this is sexist but I will never have a male OB, mostly for modesty reasons but also because I do not trust a man who has not been through pregnancy and childbirth to understand how I'm feeling. Mansplaining is the WORST. My OB has birthed three children of her own, she gets me.

  • @DuchessOfCambridge I feel exactly the same. It's not that I don't think a man is capable of being understanding and giving a woman a safe and memorable birth experience, but I feel very weary about it because there are aspects of birth that they can not possibly understand. 
  • @jkduer wow. Definitely time for a new ob! I can't even imagine what it would Ben like to labor under the car of a dr that dismissive of your feelings. Hopefully you can find someone more supportive and interested in finding the source of your pain. 
  • @jkduer I agree with the other ladies. Time for a new OB! Doctors being dismissive of women’s pain in general and not believing female patients is a huge problem in the medical field. It leads to so much unnecessary pain and future problems. I hope you can switch and that you can find someone who will listen to you and help you and not just decide your case before even meeting you!
  • @DuchessOfCambridge @eatinwatermelonseeds do you only see OBs who have given birth themselves? I’m genuinely just wondering.  I’ve heard of people who want to see exclusively female ob/gyns for what could be described as “modesty” or privacy reasons, but I’ve never heard of the rationale that they need to understand what you’re going through from having been through it before.  

    My OBs are a larger group so I see like 6+ (I’m high risk so I know them all well—I had more than 40 appointments my last pregnancy).  I definitely understand wanting to see a woman (I have a slight preference for men which I know is not the norm), but as I think about it none of the women doctors in the group are moms who have given birth.  All the men are dads whose wives gave birth, which I only know because they will occasionally anecdotally draw on their own experiences,  but for whatever reason none of the women are moms.  And my long term gyn who I saw for a decade before getting pregnant and risked out of her practice was a mom, but she had used a surrogate so wouldn’t have had first hand experience at pregnancy. 

    Personally, outside the medical context, I find the least sympathetic people to pregnancy tend to be moms who had really easy pregnancies.  I work in a very male-dominated field and when I told men I had to take time off of work due to vomiting several times a day they “got it” (or at least pretended to get it), whereas women who had easy pregnancies and never took a day off of work had more of an “If I could do it, she should be able to do it” attitude.  That’s purely anecdotal, just my experience! 

    And most importantly: totallly agree that the OP should get a new doctor. 
  • First of all - wtf ladies! I can't believe the shit you've all been having to put up with. That shit is crazy. Good on all of you for staying sane this holiday and we've got you!
    @jkduer you gotta find a new provider! How have you not met your ob yet and you're past 20 weeks?! Definitely find a midwife or other ob that will actually meet and listen to you. He's never met you and yet is mansplaining about you. Nope nope nope! Follow your intuition.

    I agree with others about a having a male ob/gyn or primary care provider. It just seems like such an incongruous thing to have a man in charge of labor and delivery  although I know there are many good male obs out there.
    Hang in there, everyone! Happy Christmas! 
  • @anonellis I have only had care under women who have given birth, but I didn't plan it that way, and I wouldn't fault a woman for not. I don't know how to adequately explain my rationale, but I think I tend to be a little cynical of male obs which I understand is not fair at all. All of my friends who have had unnecessary csections have had male obs (this is not saying at all that female obs wouldn't do that, it's just not something I've seen nearly as often). I do worry about having an OB vs midwife more than I worry about male vs female. My last pregnancy the midwives were incredible and the only female ob I met was awful and when she checked me I literally cried. I had male obs (in triage) and they were so sweet (though there was one doctor with these HUGE swollen hands and being checked by him was super uncomfortable) but I believe they took me seriously and were very professional and understanding. I don't think no man should ever be an ob, but I'm not sure my first choice (if I had one) would be a male. I am still nervous about how my birth will go with my female ob who has given birth. I want to go naturally, I want minimal to no intervention. But I don't believe that's totally how she does things and I'm nervous about what to expect with her. I would feel that way with a male or female ob. I probably would be less nervous with a midwife. 
  • @anonellis my OB is the only one I've seen, I researched her pretty heavily before seeing her and was sold when my PCP (whom I love) said they are friendly and she really likes her. My #1 reason is modesty so I wouldn't ever see a man unless it was some kind of emergency (this happened during delivery, he was the only one available). It's a huge bonus that she's also been through it. I wouldn't turn down a female OB who hadn't, but I would for sure switch if she wasn't sympathetic. I think women can also understand a little better because even if you haven't been through childbirth, you've had periods and whatever else so you can sort of imagine. I do agree with you though that women who have had smoother pregnancies and deliveries tend to be more dismissive.

    I've never seen a midwife but that would make me too anxious. The reason I chose an OB the first time around was on the off chance I needed a C-section and she's at a hospital with a level III NICU. I ended up needing both those things and am pretty sure this will end in C-section as well.

    I'm not really making sense 😂 @anonellis I do see what youre saying and I guess I have just heard of many male OBs writing their pregnant patients off. Even H, who GETS it and watched me suffer through labor ended up prioritizing his comfort over mine at a few points during the process. He wasn't being a jerk, he just wasn't thinking.

  • But all that to say, if modesty wasn't an issue and I had the choice between a female OB who had had an easy time of it and was dismissive vs a male OB who was understanding and didn't mansplain/write me off, I might pick the man. Bedside manner is important to me and I'm never okay with being treated like an idiot because I'm not! The male OB who did my csection was very kind and when everything hit the fan after, he personally came and checked up on me and apolgoized for how it all went down (it wasn't his fault)

  • My sil is kind of annoying me today. We see her and her boyfriend once a year at Christmas (maybe on Thanksgiving too). They live where my in laws do, 2 hours away, but they see her boyfriend's family several times throughout the year who live about 40 minutes north of us. They never stop by or even try to. Today they're spending Christmas with his family and then coming over here. My mil and fil will be here around 11, and originally sil was like "we'll be there around 1 or 2" and then was like "actually make it 3 or 4" and it wouldn't be a huge deal except 1. My in laws aren't staying the night, my fil will likely be wanting to leave around 6 or 7. And 2. She spends the whole year with his family, we're not even asking for a whole day. It's just annoying. 
  • I can't complain too much because I am in the Bahamas for my babymoon but last night Hubs almost killed me. We tried to do this trip as we do all our trips, which is a TON of walking to visit local culture and hole-in-the-wall food joints.

    But after a day and a half of that I just broke down. I was exhausted. I also brought the wrong shoes, which is on me, so my feet are all torn up. We didn't make it to the large historic fort or the conservation center.

    So last night hubs woke me up at 7pm after I fell asleep. I asked him to bring me some plain food, like pasta, for dinner. No more fish. It's unusual for me to stop eating the local cuisine when I travel but I'd had enough. No, he insisted I come out with him to find food.

    Since my feet were in such bad shape I asked him to know where we were going before we went. Long story short he did not check if the place was open so we had to walk 3x the distance to double back to a Chinese place I said was fine in the first place. I cried in the resteraunt.

    Today he did very good though. All day on a quiet island, got to snorkle and meet some dolphins and read a book. But yesterday ... I could have killed him.
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  • anonellis said:
    Personally, outside the medical context, I find the least sympathetic people to pregnancy tend to be moms who had really easy pregnancies.  I work in a very male-dominated field and when I told men I had to take time off of work due to vomiting several times a day they “got it” (or at least pretended to get it), whereas women who had easy pregnancies and never took a day off of work had more of an “If I could do it, she should be able to do it” attitude.  That’s purely anecdotal, just my experience! 
    THIS ^^^^^

    I have mentioned a lot that I had a terrible pregnancy with DD. I did not sleep for days at a time and then when I did- it was never more than 4 hours a night. I had to take all kinds of meds to sleep and I was just absolutely miserable, depressed, and suicidal at times. I got the least amount of sympathy from coworkers who had been pregnant and even my never been pregnant female colleagues. I am beyond thankful that my 2 male bosses fully recognized that I was NOT myself and given that a lot of child advocacy work revolves around PPD and depression in pregnancy, recognized that what I was going through was connected to chemical changes due to pregnancy and not that I was being a baby about being pregnant. I got so many nasty looks and even comments about not pulling my weight from coworkers, which made things even worse. I am beyond grateful that my bosses encouraged me to take leave early and still let me take 13 weeks after DD was born.    

    Along those lines, yesterday I was chatting with DH's cousin who is also due in May and asking her about the awful sciatic pain she was dealing with. She's had a much rougher pregnancy than me- MS through 14 weeks, puking every day, weird cysts growing on her body, and all kinds of other weird shit. Her mom, DH's aunt, interrupted us and said: "You know Jenny's the only woman who has ever been pregnant before." I seriously could have slapped the woman in the face. Luckily the cousin looked at her and "Mom, why do you have to be such a BITCH?"

    But it goes back to the lack of understanding that not every pregnancy is the same and some women SEVERELY suffer to the point of constant hospital/doctors visits, while others float right on through. And it's the women who are usually the worst about understanding this! 
  • I’m SO over people asking us if we have chosen a name. And it’s the same people asking. It’s like you just asked a week ago, so no we have not made any progress. And MIL keeps giving us all these terrible suggestions. And no we don’t even have a short or long list of maybes. Dh and I don’t agree on boy names at all. We are to the point where the two of us aren’t even discussing names because we just dislike each other’s suggestions. He is just going to be called boy. And MIL seems annoyed that we don’t have any names on a short list. I have a very strong feeling she isn’t going to like whatever name we choose anyways, which doesn’t matter because it’s not her kid. And we have 19ish weeks to go. Plenty of time to choose. I’m a little annoyed right now, if you can’t tell! 
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