TWW Monday 11/19

cpiper39 · November 2018

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SA0012 · November 2018

Month/Cycle: 10/4

CD/DPO: 24/10

Timing: -1

Typical LP length: 9! Woohoo for getting to 10!

Testing: WFAF

R/R: Woke up with a great big cold, UGH, that's the worst! Chugging all the Edlerberry and VitC today!

CS/Q: I'm confused about this cycle. My LP has been 9. Today is 10dpo but both of my apps don't predict AF until tomorrow or the next day. However, I had some blood with my CM check yesterday so I'm going back and forth between AF a little early or (and I shouldn't do this to myself, but...) dpo9 could be possible implantation bleeding! Blahhhhhh, I'm sure AF will show up anytime now. I hate the waiting game.

kimmer1412 · November 2018

Month/Cycle: 1

CD/DPO: 8DPO

Timing:

Typical LP length: not sure yet

Testing: OPK (got BFN today which I knew but was being impatient)

R/R: had an amazing weekend away in key west.

CS/Q: I got a dip in temp this morning and was kind of crampy yesterday so FX that it was implantation. Since I was drinking over the weekend and away I didn't do temps Saturday or Sunday. If it was implantation my temp should rise back up tomorrow correct?

marebear15 · November 2018

@SA0012 - What apps are you using? If it's just the general cycle tracking app like Clue, then they just take an average of your normal length of your cycle and predict them out. So if you O'd earlier this cycle, they would still have your period starting on CD35-36, not taking into account your DPO. Glad your LP is lengthening! Have you been taking anything for it?

@kimmer1412 - Yes, if it's implantation it should rise again tomorrow. Not to slay your unicorn, but a lot of non-pregnancy charts show the same kind of dip around 7-9dpo from an estrogen surge.

Still here y'all!
Month/Cycle: 7/6

CD/DPO: 45/10

Timing: Eh

Typical LP length: longest is 12

Testing: Thanksgiving if AF doesn't show by then

R/R: So excited for Thanksgiving! All the foods have been bought and I'm planning my pies, and I'm just so excited to see my parents and siblings! Plus my DH's team the Saints are playing, so football is definitely going to be on in my house.

CS/Q: This has been one rollercoaster of a cycle. First I thought an AO cycle, then maybe I O'd, then the O day kept getting pushed back further and further. Then I put in a wrong temp and thought I got my DD, the next day it was low, then high on Sunday, now low again. IDK anymore. Just rolling with the punches.

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SA0012 · November 2018

@marebear15 I've been using FF for 4 months and just started with the Ava bracelet mid-cycle this month (although I did enter my past AF and O dates). I haven't taken anything at all to lengthen LP, I had blood drawn to test progesterone though. I haven't heard back but I'm guessing they won't want to give it to me if I can hit 10 on my own. I wonder how that will go. I'm sorry your cycle has been such a rollercoaster. I was just thinking this morning how unfortunate it is that we have SO much data to follow and track - but then in the end it just makes us more confused! I hope it gets better for you!

kimmer1412 · November 2018

@marebear15 yes I was just reading that. Womp womp. I guess I'll go back to impatiently waiting 7 more days to test again while waiting to see if AF shows up.

littleredm · November 2018

@SA0012 Yay for getting to 10 DPO! I'm sorry about your cold. I hope you feel better soon. To answer your post from yesterday, I think that I've seen people who have been benched still participate in the WTO and then in the TWW when they think they've O'd. I personally did not participate on the bump when I was benched 2 months because I wanted to fully take my mind off ttc completely but that was just a personal choice.

@kimmer1412 So glad you had a great weekend!

@marebear15 What pies are you planning on making? I feel like rolling with the punches should be our motto here in ttgp.

Month/Cycle: 11/11

CD/DPO: 29 / 12 DPO

Timing: -4,-3,-1,0

Typical LP length: 13

Testing: Will probably test again tomorrow with a FRER.

R/R: Having lunch with some friends today. Should be fun.

CS/Q: Feeling like AF is knocking on the door. The spotting actually happened right after HIO so I'm not super hopeful about it.

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grangerhp37 · November 2018

@SA0012 I hope you feel better! Yay for making it to 10DPO!
@kimmer1412 Glad you had a great weekend! FX that dip was implantation but unfortunately it can just mean a surge in hormones.
@marebear15 FX for you! I hope you get something conclusive about your cycle soon!
@littleredm Still crossing all the things for you!

Month/Cycle: 7/5

CD/DPO: 41/15

Timing: good

Typical LP length: 15 days

Testing: nope

R/R: Spotting today so AF should be here right on time tomorrow. OB has me starting Clomid on CD5 so that will be Saturday. We are starting with a low dose (25 mg) so FX that it actually does something and doesn’t just cause us to waste a cycle. Also we should have H’s SA results back by tomorrow and I’m really nervous about those. Good news is it’s a short week and almost the holidays!!

CS/Q: nah I’m good

queenie_b · November 2018

@SA0012 Ugh the waiting game is not fun, hope you are able to stay distracted and I hope you start feeling better!

@kimmer1412 sorry about the BFN, hope your temps are back up tomorrow!

@marebear15 Sounds like your house is the place to be Thanksgiving! I hope you get answers about your chart soon!

@littleredm FX for testing tomorrow!

@dogmomma096 FX the SA results are great!

Month/Cycle: 5/5

CD/DPO: 18/3?

Timing: -5, -3, -2,-1

Typical LP length: 15

Testing: too soon

R/R: DH got wasted last night, he has been a lot better with drinking less since we started TTC since I know it can affect his quality, but this month he's been pushing it, his friends don't help encouraging him to drink either. I am hoping his extended stay with the toilet last night will get him back on track. Found the Christmas radio station this weekend, normally I'm an after Thanksgiving girl, but I'm feeling especially drawn to Christmas this year to help boost my spirit.

CS/Q: CHs moved and are now dashed when I entered my temp this morning from CD 13 to CD 15. Not sure I agree with 15, thinking maybe had a bad temp on CD14 and that was O but I'll go with it for now.

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heml · November 2018

Mobile Bump-ing, so I’ll be back later with tags!

Month/Cycle: 5/5

CD/DPO: 30/13

Timing: Good

Typical LP length: 14

Testing: another BFN this morning. I feel AF creeping in, so this will likely be my last day here. I hope not to see any of you in WTO. FX for all of you!!

R/R: I’ll get to drink all the wine for Thanksgiving! I relaxed this weekend and had fun with MH riding bikes around (Saturday it was sunny and gorgeous) and having no “have tos” on the schedule.

CS/Q: nah

kiki047 · November 2018

@Sa0012 blah, sorry you caught a cold. I'm right there with you on the SS. FX for you! Either way that's good news that your LP seems to be getting a bit longer. And to comment on your question on being benched from yesterday, we have a few ladies here who have been benched for various reasons, some of them is a self-bench because of illness or travel, sometimes it's medically necessary, we really leave it up to them to use their discretion on how/when/where they post. As far as I'm concerned they're still welcome to participate in the dailies because you're still in a TTC mindset, you'll still be tracking your cycles and charting.
@kimmer1412 glad you had a nice weekend. Key West looks beautiful. With those few missing temps from the last 2 days it's hard to say what the dip means. I feel like the internet really feeds the BSC because I'm not convinced that implantation dips even exist.
@marebear15 well well well, let's keep this party going shall we? Your thanksgiving plans sound lovely! Excuse my ignorance but do you actually celebrate Thanksgiving on Thursday or will you just do something over the weekend?
@littleredm ooh I love lunch dates. I rarely have them but I love the idea of them, lol. Sorry you feel like AF is imminent. I hope she stays away!
@dogmomma096 Oooh that's so exciting about starting your medicated cycle! FX for YH's SA results too. Hope it's all good news and you can try to enjoy the rest of your Thanksgiving.
@queenie_b I chuckled a little at your comment about hoping YH's date with the porcelain throne might put him back on track. Brutal. I don't miss those days. Sorry FF is throwing you off with your O date, but either way your timing looks so good whether it is CD13 or 15!
@heml I'm sorry for the BFN. Enjoy the wine, that's the one solace to moving back over to WTO... I don't drink a lot these days but I do usually indulge at least once and it is ohhh so good.

Month/Cycle: 11/8

CD/DPO: 39/13

Timing: -3, -1

Typical LP length: 6-9 which is making me doubt my O date cuz there's no way I went from a 9day LP last month to 13+ this month

Testing: Do you really need me to say it out loud? I stocked up on the 4-packs of CBs at Costco and bought a box of 50 wondfos last night.

Help, I have a problem.

R/R: Other than my Mom driving everyone absolutely insane on Saturday, my Grammy's 90th birthday party was lovely. She had a great time, it was nice to see everyone and catch up, and I even found out one of my relatives (by marriage) also has PCOS. She's only in her mid 20s and apparently won't talk to her Mom about it (it was her mom that was telling me) so I offered to reach out to see if she wanted to talk to me. Their family has a history of diabetes too so I found out 3 of them are/were on Metformin. It inspired me to finally start taking it, I was kinda waiting til the end of the TWW because I didn't want to do anything that might jeopardize my chances.

CS/Q: My temps are really messing with my head. Still SS like a crazyperson. Over-analyzing every little thing. I can make a case for a later O date because it was such a slow, steady rise, but then if I did O later then our timing really sucked. UGH.

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b_1029 · November 2018

@SA0012 I’m sorry you’re feeling sick! Hopefully you feel better by thanksgiving.
@kimmer1412 sorry for the BFN but it’s still so early! And yes to second what @marebear15 said, I seem to often get a dip around 7-8DPO and so far it hasn’t meant anything

that doesn’t mean it can’t be implantation though!
@marebear15 mmmm what kind of pies are you making? I’m sorry for the confusing cycle.
@littleredm FX for your testing tomorrow and have fun at lunch!
@dogmomma096 booooo to AF. Stupid witch. I hope the SA results come back great!
@queenie_b I’m glad you found something to boost your spirits! Lol to your H. Hopefully he learned his lesson.
@heml yesssss for all the wine! I’m sorry for impending AF.
@kiki047 oh wow that would be a crazy long LP for you! I could possibly see a later O date but no idea. I’m glad you had fun at the party!

Month/Cycle: 13

CD/DPO: 27/14

Timing: good

Typical LP length: 13-15

Testing: WFAF

R/R: woke up on the wrong side of the bed today, probably from lack of sleep and knowing AF is coming. If I were a cartoon, I would have a black cloud over my head today. lol. Rave - it's only a 2.5 day week and I can't wait to go visit my parents for Thanksgiving! And to second what @heml said, at least I’ll get to drink all the wine at Thanksgiving.

CS/Q: didn't temp yesterday and today was a huge dive. See ya soon, AF.

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kiki047 · November 2018

@b_1029 sorry you're having a rough morning. I hope the rest of your day picks up and you can embrace your short week and look forward to family time (and wine!!). and re: my LP, I don't even know what to make of it, other than to keep counting all the BFNs.

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b_1029 · November 2018

@kiki047 awwww what a cute gif! Warmed my angry heart this morning

thank you friend!

kimmer1412 · November 2018

@kiki047 I thought I was ok skipping a couple days since I was LP but now I'm regretting it. Not that I'd know much one way or the other LOL. The wait is soooooo hard. I can't stop over analyzing e everything.

kiki047 · November 2018

@kimmer1412 it really is a personal choice, I temp throughout the TWW but I know a lot of ladies just temp long enough to confirm O. For me, I need allllll the data. I miss a day and I stress over it so badly lol. At the end of the day, charting has more value after the fact when you can look back and see the overall picture. That's the part I struggle with. I want answers NOW. haha.

kimmer1412 · November 2018

@kiki047 I want all the answers NOW too lol.

grangerhp37 · November 2018

Quick update: Got H’s SA results. Count was low (11mil), motility normal, morph is low (1%). Pretty devastated. My OB said to not do just Clomid cycle and go straight to RE. Haven’t told H yet, I found out at work.

queenie_b · November 2018

@dogmomma096 I am so sorry to hear about the SA results. I can imagine that is impossible news to receive. *hugs*

heml · November 2018

@dogmomma096 I am so, so sorry. We're all sending you love and support!

@b_1029 CHEERS! I'm wearing a shirt that says "Turkey and Wine, Feeling Fine"

@marebear15 Yay for still being here and longer LP. We'll be watching lots of football on Thanksgiving too.

@SA0012 Sorry if you caught a cold from the few of us on here not feeling well, HA. Hope you're able to rest and feel better super soon.

@littleredm FX for you tomorrow!

@queenie_b Nothing like a really good hangover to keep you a way from the booze for awhile! I had a talk with MH about drinking a little less while we're TTC. I don't want him to feel like I'm the fun police, but I just asked if we could do more activities that weren't alcohol focused...

@kiki047 LOL at you're problem. At least since it's Costco, you got a good deal!

@kimmer1412 When I decided to start temping, I decided to be ALL IN, and I temp every single day: cycle, O, and LP. It's easier for me to just be in the habit of temping everyday.

kiki047 · November 2018

@heml Your shirt sounds AWESOME. And yes, I got a great deal at costco.

Less than half of what I was paying on Amazon. But now I have a huge box of internet cheapies so I'll feel a little less guilty. I dunno how much FRERs and CB digitals cost in the US but here they're about $10 each if I can get them on sale, around $15 if I buy them at the drug store.

marebear15 · November 2018

@SA0012 - That is odd that FF would give you a longer LP. It is a lot of info to track and then sometimes we still don't know what our bodies are up to!

@kimmer1412 - Are you going to wait until AF is due before you test?

@littleredm - I'm making apple, pumpkin, and pecan pie. And homemade whipped cream! FX for your testing tomorrow, your temp still looks nice.

@queenie_b - CD13 looks like O to me, but I can see FF moving it based on CM and all the temps.

@heml - Hope I see you here tomorrow, and not both of us over in WTO.

@kiki047 - Yes! We actually celebrate it on Thursday. Most businesses are closed and people have it off. A lot of people have Friday off as well and go shopping for the Christmas sales.
Something about your 3DPO RHR makes me want to put O on that day, but what do I know. What are you doing to help lengthen your LP? When did you start the Metformin? Could that have lengthened it?

@b_1029 - Apple, pumpkin, and pecan! I'll probably see you over in WTO soon.

@dogmomma096 - Oh, those are heartbreaking results. I'm so so sorry.

kiki047 · November 2018

@marebear15 There's something about a mid-week holiday that just makes it that much more magical.
I'm eyeballing that RHR spike too. And CD32 could also be a possibility, I just had no corresponding CM. I've been feeling lots of little pinches and twinges throughout my TWW so it's entirely possible that could've been O pain that I didn't classify as such. I don't even know. I have been taking vitex for the last 3 months, I just ran out a few days ago and my naturopath said to stop for now. I didn't start the metformin until yesterday. If I did O later, I may only be 7DPO. *shrug* losing hope at this rate though.

b_1029 · November 2018

@dogmomma096 I am so sorry

as PP have said, that must be so hard to hear. Hugs ❤️

kiki047 · November 2018

@dogmomma096 *hugs* I am so sorry, I somehow missed your update earlier. Sending lots of love and support to you and YH today

SA0012 · November 2018

@marebear15 Yeah, I thought it was odd for FF too, it's usually pretty reliable for me. Although, it did occurr to me after posting that I shouldn't cheer about 10dpo just yet. There's still time for AF to come today and then I don't think I could count it, it'd still be 9dpo.

Also, with my new daily cervical checks I've noticed that my cp was SUPER low for several days after O. Yesterday it was medium and today it's actually high. Everything I'm reading about cp and AF is that it should stay low for that. Does anyone else almost get bitter when you find somewhat hopeful news? I'm like, I know this is what I wanted to find and read - but it probably still means nothing and I don't need the mindf*** right now! If this cycle os neg then for the love of everything just let me relax!

SA0012 · November 2018

@b_1029 I'm sorry about your black cloud. Just sending creepy internet hugs and letting you know you're not alone. I've got my own cloud today and am expecting AF any minute now. Keeping FX that we don't see each other over in WTO. I hope your day gets better.

chichiphin · November 2018

@dogmomma096 I’m so sorry. We went thru something verrrry similar. What I will say tho - don’t fret too much. Here is some hope for you. MH had his second SA done on Friday. Literally every category doubled. Get a second SA done at least two weeks apart and things might improve. They only sample so many at once and outside factors can cause changes. Things might change. FX for you ❤️❤️❤️

**edited for clarity

queenie_b · November 2018

@chichiphin That's great news about YH's SA! I'm so happy to hear this!

grangerhp37 · November 2018

@queenie_b I could make a case for O on CD15 based on CM, so it could really go either way.
@heml I'm so sorry about the BFN but I'm also grateful to be able to drink all the wine at Thanksgiving!
@kiki047 I'm sorry that your O date isn't more clear, but it definitely looks like it happened so that is always a good sign (even if it means your timing was worse, boo!).
@b_1029 I'm sorry you're having a rough day, right there with ya. ALL THE WINE!
@chichiphin That is awesome news for you and your H!!

Thank you all for your supportive words

I was able to get an appointment with an RE for Monday which is awesome but it is likely to be on CD7 so we will have just missed the window for starting treatment this next cycle. I already have the Clomid by OB prescribed and wanted to talk to her about still trying the low dose this cycle while we are waiting to start next cycle with the RE, but I know that Clomid cycles are limited and we will likely end up doing medicated cycles with IUI so I'd rather save our chances with Clomid for that. So most likely trying naturally this next cycle and hoping that I don't have another 40+ day wait before starting treatment.

cpiper39 · November 2018

*lurking*
@dogmomma096 I'm so sorry to see this post. My heart sank a little when I saw that. I'm glad you already got an appointment though, and hopefully, you can get a plan in place.

lillywonderland · November 2018

*lurkeee lurkeeer*

@dogmomma096 Sending you some ❤️ today. I’m glad you have looked at next steps. Take one at a time and you’ll get to where you want to be. Also, as someone who works in a lab (albeit a pharma one), know that mistakes can and do happen in while performing testing.

@kiki047 I am hoping so hard that you are KU right now so you would have just wasted all that $$ on tests. LOLOLOLOL. Thinking all the good thoughts I can for you!

littleredm · November 2018

@dogmomma096 Oh gosh I'm so sorry to hear about YH's SA results. I definitely second @chichiphin though about getting a second test done again in a few months to see if there are any changes. I'm glad you were able to get an appointment with the RE so soon so that you can form a plan. Sending you hugs friend.

@queenie_b There's nothing like spending time hugging the porcelain throne that will make you not want to drink for awhile. I'm sure it'll work for a bit on YH.

@heml ugh so sorry about the BFN. But yay for wine on Turkey Day!

@kiki047 Glad that your grandmother's party went well! I feel you on the SS. It's driving me crazy too.

@b_1029 I hope that your day got better. Definitely drink all the wine at Thanksgiving and enjoy spending time with your family.

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