WTO Wednesday 11/14

b_1029 · November 2018

**This is a thread that welcomes all regardless of where they are at in their TTC journeys. Please be mindful of topics that are discussed that could be hurtful to those going through tough times. Mention of children or pregnancies of others should have a TW and be in a spoiler if possible, and only be mentioned if it is extremely pertinent to the conversation. Thanks for keeping this a safe place for us all to engage!**

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WAYDTGKU:

R/R:

CS/Q:

holly321 · November 2018

Month/Cycle: 22/4 after bench

CD: 14

WAYDTGKU: hio, pnv, temping

R/R: this has been a ridiculously busy week for work, then on top of it, I had to call out on Monday, and I am only working a half day today. I feel like I am never going to catch up!

CS/Q: I am thinking I may have O’ed yesterday, which is frustrating because timing was not great due to issues out of our control.

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inthewoods23 · November 2018

Month/Cycle: 17/16

CD: 5

WAYDTGKU: temping, OPKs, U/S and blood work for the RE

R/R: excited for the end of the month when we have the "what's next" appointment with the RE but I'm sad it's the week after Thanksgiving so I still have to make it through that before we have a treatment plan in place.

CS/Q: nothing special going on there. I should have some time in the evening to get all or most of my temps from the year entered in FF so I can compare it to what Flo has been telling me. I wonder if O dates will be the same

jennifer_louise · November 2018

@holly321 Are you feeling better? I'm sorry about your timing, hope you didn't O yet!

Month/cycle: 6

CD: 8

WAYDTGKU: The usuals, plus SMEP starting tonight! (DH said "SMEP ya tomorrow!" last night lol)

R/R: After a terrible start to the week, it's actually turned out alright. I only have four work days left til Thanksgiving break, so that helps too!! Although I've been good about avoiding caffeine, I did relax a bit yesterday and ate a donut. That was nice too 🍩

chichiphin · November 2018

My participation in the dailies has slacked.

@holly321 I hope you didn't O yet - but that is one steady lookin chart!
@jennifer_louise lol SMEP ya tomorrow. Also you deserve a donut after having a terrible start to the week.

Month/Cycle: 7

CD: 13

WAYDTGKU: vitamins, HIO, CM/CP, RE appt in 2 DAYS (!!)

R/R: I can't believe we are traveling for thanksgiving in a week. this year has flown by... my new position has kept me super busy but I don't mind - I think it is helping with my TTC brain. I've also chilled out about this month because I'm pretty sure it won't work out naturally regardless of what I do.

CS/Q: nah.

jennifer_louise · November 2018

@chichiphin Ahhh that's so soon!! If you don't mind me asking, are you over 35? Just wondering if you got a referral to an RE because of that or another reason. I'm nearing the 6 month mark (if it doesn't happen this time) so it's on my mind.

@inthewoods23 Excited for your appt too! We'll all be here to help get you through Thanksgiving.

chichiphin · November 2018

@jennifer_louise I am 28. We got in with the RE bc my husband did a SA when I did all of my bloodwork for my short LP, and it turns out we are dealing with male factor infertility.

jennifer_louise · November 2018

@chichiphin Thanks! I am 31 but I am hoping my OB might recommend testing soon (I have a short LP too and my hubby wants a SA). Good luck to you two! I am less educated on the treatment options for male factor so I'm gonna be stalking your updates (:

elle-0409 · November 2018

@holly321 Sorry for the busy week. Hopefully, you didn't O yet. FX!

@inthewoods23 GL with your upcoming RE appointment! I know it's hard to wait, but the time will go by so quickly.

@jennifer_louise I'm glad that your week is turning around. That doughnut sounds soooo good!

@chichiphin GL at your RE appointment! It's so close! And I know what you mean about feeling like the odds of things happening naturally are not ideal. Once I found out I was having a 7 day LP I was like, "So... is this practice?" Hang in there!

Month/Cycle: 5/5

CD: 11

WAYDTGKU: PNV, B6, B12, BBT, HIO, OPKs starting in a few days.
R/R:

I was on Facebook and my brother posted a photo of a Christmas tree. In the comments section, someone had posted a photo of their child next to a Christmas tree and I've been on TB for too long because I was like, "Trigger Warning!!! You can't do that! Where's the admin?? Oh. Wait. This is Facebook. Carry on."

Rave: This is ridiculous, but I'm going to Target later today. I don't know why, but that makes me so freaking happy! Plus, I have a gift card, so it's extra exciting to me.

CS/Q: Nothing interesting yet, but stay tuned.

elle-0409 · November 2018

@chichiphin OMG, did I just say "hang in there"???????? I'm so sorry. Isn't that what your previous doctor said to you? I am mortified. So sorry! I'm off to drink coffee and avoid talking to people.

chichiphin · November 2018

@elle-0409 LOL

elle-0409 · November 2018

@chichiphin I'm dead.

rikiteacup · November 2018

Month/Cycle: 8/8

CD:3

WAYDTGKU: BBT, OPK, CM check, Prenatals, FertilAid for men

R/R: Did my CD3 blood test this morning. I have 2 more tests to go (ultrasound next Monday and HSG next Wednesday). Crossing my fingers everything is normal. H should have another SA in 2 weeks. It will be interesting to see if the FertilAid pills are working.

CS/Q:

queenie_b · November 2018

@holly321 FX you didn't O yet! Sorry work is stressing you out!

@inthewoods23 I'm interested to see how your apps compare. Sorry about the wait for your RE appointment, I hope to holiday flies by.

@jennifer_louise So glad to hear your week is turning around! Hope you enjoyed your doughnut!

@chichiphin Hope your holiday travels are stress free! SO close to your appointment!

@elle-0409 I think its crazy people already have trees up! Maybe it's because I get a live tree and places don't open until after Thanksgiving. Enjoy the target run! Hope you find lots of good things! Are you shopping for yourself or Christmas shopping?

@rikiteacup hope you get good results from your tests!

Month/Cycle: 5/5

CD: 13

WAYDTGKU: BBT, CM, supplements, healthy diet

R/R: We had an impromptu dinner and card game night with a bunch of friends which was a lot of fun but ended up being a late night especially after HIO, so just feeling behind today already.

CS/Q: Temps have evened out since I've been home. Just watching and waiting.

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rikiteacup · November 2018

@jennifer_louise Your H could request a SA to his PCP. That's what mine did during his physical. The doc gave him a sterile cup and a paper whit instructions. He did it before the 6 month mark (we are both over 35). Turns out he has low count (3.3 millions/ml when the low normal is 15 millions). He made an appointment last month with a urologist specializing in male infertility but it isn't before the end of January. I am doing tests on my side to try to save some time as I am turning 37 next year. I just did the CD3 blood draw. My OBGYN was totally fine with ordering all theses tests (CD 3 blood tests, CD 7-10 ultrasound and HSG) and told me to make an appointment with a RE clinic in the next couple months if still no BFP.
As for male infertility, a urologist will try to determine a cause. It can be physical or hereditary. In some cases, it can be fixed. If low count is caused by a varicocele vein, surgery will fix it. Also, getting the right vitamins and changing your lifestyle can improve the results of your SA like no caffeine, reduce alcohol, loose underwear, keeping your testicules cool (no hot showers, no heated seats, no laptop..). My H has been doing all this plus taking the FertilAid pills (FertilAid, count boost, motility boost). His motility and morphology results were good so we're hoping the pills will help with his count.
The sad part is that if my tests turn up to be excellent and his count is still low, it will still suck for me as I will be the one who will have to take all the drugs and undergo all the procedures. His younger brother (25) doesn't produce any sperm and only has 1 testicule. I believe they were still able to harvest a few spermatozoon but they have to do IVF. My SIL, who is 23 and healthy has to take all the drugs for the IVF to be successful. All he had to do was ejaculate in a cup and boom, he's done!

stephanie123456 · November 2018

@holly321 FX for you!

@inthewoods23 That will definitely be an interesting thing to find out. And I'm sorry about your appointment being after the holidays.

@jennifer_louise Yummy! Glad you could de-stress a bit.

@chichiphin Glad that it was able to take your mind off of the TTC journey (even if just for a little). And you never know, good things happen when you least expect it!

@elle-0409 YES! I love Target, especially when I have money to spend there. I'm so tempted to go and check out holiday stuff but that will lead me down a spending rabbit hole.

@rikiteacup GL to you and DH. Hoping for good news!!

@queenie_b lol I feel ya on the late nights from HIO. It makes anything else impossible and exhausting.

Month/Cycle: 2/2

CD: 6

WAYDTGKU: BBT, OPKs, CM, prenatals, HIO, FF

R/R: Nothing much. I mentioned in another thread that I'm super excited that DH and I are going to see Fantastic Beasts on Friday night, and I had to say it again because I'm so pumped we are actually getting out to see a movie in the theaters.

CS/Q: Meh, not today.

chichiphin · November 2018

@jennifer_louise I second @rikiteacup

my new OB was totally cool with ordering labs and SHE prescribed MH’s SA because she said “this all could be on him and your BW is secondary”. After we got the results (2% morphology with head defects) she said he could go to a urologist for a second opinion, but we skipped straight to RE once we knew our insurance allows for this with his diagnosis.

jennifer_louise · November 2018

Awesome info @rikiteacup and @chichiphin!! You ladies are truly awesome. I think it's true what @rikiteacup said that even if it is a male problem, we ladies still take it all on! I'm a bit doubtful he would be willing to reduce caffeine or alcohol but I might be wrong. Plus, we haven't even done the test yet to know if it's a problem.

One more Q. Our FW approaches, would it be best to wait until after the FW for him to take the test? I don't wanna waste the goods....

chichiphin · November 2018

@jennifer_louise our clinic advises 3 days without ejaculating before the test ETA: but not going more than 7 days without ejaculating

misshelen86 · November 2018

@holly321 Sorry work is so busy. I hope you are able to get caught up soon!

@inthewoods23 Sorry you have to wait for your appointment. Hopefully the time flies by!

@jennifer_louise Glad your week is getting better and hope you enjoyed your donut! Yum!

@chichiphin Glad work has kept you distracted from TTC. Good luck at your RE appointment!

@elle-0409 Sometimes I wish certain things on FB could have a TW! Have fun shopping!

@rikiteacup FX all your results are normal!

@queenie_b Sounds like a fun evening! I hear you on the HIO exhaustion!

@stephanie123456 Hope you two enjoy your date night on Fri!

Month/Cycle: 3/3

CD: 2

WAYDTGKU: SMEP, Ava, OPKs, CM

R/R: I was looking at our big wall calendar last night and was quite impressed that DH had circled all the days of my upcoming FW. I thought maybe he was starting to take more of an interest in TTC. Then I realized he actually was circling the days he’s on call for work.

Maybe too much TTC on the brain lately?
We have a “travel talk” event tonight our travel agent invited us to. There will be drinks, appies and prizes. Should be a good time!

CS/Q: no

rikiteacup · November 2018

@jennifer_louise I agree with @chichiphin, we got the same recommendations. Wait after your FW to do the test. That's what we did.
Delaying by a week didn't change much for us because we got the results before the end of my LP anyways. From the results, I kind of knew it was very unlikely I would get a BFP.
ETA: I forgot to add that drugs (hard or soft) can affect fertility as well as BMI. Both for male and females. Even though society is changing, males still believe that they are fertile to the max and their lifestyle has no impact on it. Which is wrong. According to the latest studies, males from western countries are becoming more and more interfile.

emeraldduchess · November 2018

@misshelen86 your travel event sounds fun! Thanks for the recipe link, btw. My DH would go crazy over that stuff!
@stephanie123456 enjoy the movie! I still haven't seen the first "Fantasical Beasts" movie.
@queenie_b impromptu game nights are always the best.
@rikiteacup fx for all your testing. I hope you get your results back quickly.
@elle-0409 enjoy your trip to Target! Gift cards make shopping so much more fun.
@chichiphin your RE appointment is so close!! FX it goes well.
@jennifer_louise glad your week is getting better. And now you have me craving donuts!
@inthewoods23 I'm sorry you have to wait until after the holiday for your appointment.

I know you said that you were getting anxious about getting through Thanksgiving. Hugs to you.
@holly321 fx you haven't Oed yet! Glad you are feeling better.

Month/Cycle: 5/5

CD: 5

WAYDTGKU: Prenatal vitamins, Fertility Friend, temping, OPKs, HIO, red raspberry leaf tea.

R/R: We finally got a technician out to our house to fix the heat last night! Thankfully it was only a clogged line and it didn't cost a lot.
*TW*

I was asked today if I was pregnant because I was working on a baby blanket for a friend during lunch. No, coworker, I'm not, and thanks for that reminder that this blanket isn't for me. SMH...

CS/Q: Nope. Just waiting for AF to leave. She doesn't seem to want to stay too long, which I appreciate.

inthewoods23 · November 2018

@emeraldduchess I had a similar experience where a coworker came up to me last month to tell me I look glowing and that everyone was gossiping that I was KU. Fast forward 1 month later to today... Nope, still no BFP here.

Can't wait to tell them thanks for the skincare compliment because I added the Pixie Glow toner to my routine a little while ago so it is clearly doing my skin wonders ha!

misshelen86 · November 2018

@emeraldduchess I have been getting asked that question on a regular basis at work since I got married. I don’t know why people think what’s going on in my uterus is any of their business!

marebear15 · November 2018

@emeraldduchess @inthewoods23 @misshelen86 - My siblings constantly ask if I'm pregnant, and my sister even asked when I was going to announce the other day. I was like...Um, when I'm actually pregnant? She even asked if I had tested recently! Me:Yeah, this morning, BFN thanksforasking.

emeraldduchess · November 2018

@marebear15, @misshelen86, @inthewoods23 our families stopped asking us after our fifth wedding anniversary (which was 4 years ago). I don't understand why people feel that it's ever an appropriate question to ask.

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