@hottietoddy Anne's been in her own room since very early on since she hated the bassinet. She will cry bloody murder when you put her down and leave, but we try not to make a big deal about it to her (patting her tummy, saying 'good night', etc). We then give her about 5 min to settle before going back to reassure her again. She usually only needs one of those times if any at all. She's a decent nighttime sleeper (don't ask me how to do naps because we are utter failures there). I try to do a routine with putting on pj's and singing songs but sometimes she's just so worn out (see nap failures) that she just wants to fall right to sleep. Our routine isn't really CIO; it's just letting her try to fall asleep on her own and learning to self soothe a bit. But she's also 7 months old now.
She hasn't sleep for a paci in forever -- since she rejected them in favor of her thumb
~~ Our Story in Spoiler! TW loss/child~~
Fall 2012 -- started TTC Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016. September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo. Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice. August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP. Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18 September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!
TTC #2 January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156, #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!
@mbradfo2 Abigail isn’t a napper either. Sometimes I can get her to nap in her swing and I’m totally fine with that. She’ll ocassionally pass out right after her bottle too (if not during).
@hottietoddy Aisleigh is almost 5 months & she's still with us. We're on a similar path as @mtpbadger. She was only getting up once a night so we were going to love her but then got s cold & hit the 4 month sleep regression.
@hottietoddy wow 2 months and already sleeping in 5/7 hr blocks that’s awesome! Keep doing what ur doing!! Its very hard to get her to fall asleep on her own so I know she’ll be with me for some time!
History of TTC in spoiler box
TTC since 2014 Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30 7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle RE thought I would get at least 10. IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP with TWINS // MC both at almost 10wks IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!! IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!! IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
That’s a great long stretch at 2 months. Yay! Bryson has been in his own room since about 3 months. He likes it in there. He slept in our bed last week while he was sick though. He goes to bed pretty easy unless he is over tired then it can be a task. He naps in his own crib for the most part as well unless he falls asleep in his swing.
TTC 4 years. 7 failed IUI's with either Clomid, Femara and/or Trigger Shots. Started IVF journey in February 2017. Polyps removed in May. 1st IVF Transfer September 26th. BFP. Expected due date 6/14/18. Baby boy born 5/25/18 at 6 lb 9 oz. My bundle of joy.
@hottietoddy I got the same advice at my 2month appointment. I was kinda shocked I always thought the recommendation was to keep the baby in the room until 6months. To be honest we weren’t ready to move her out of our room but we knew that we needed to start easing into an evening routine for going to work. So we just tried it and I was surprised how easily she took to it (though really we have been doing this routine for awhile just without paying attention to the time and and we swapped the bassinet in our room for her crib in the nursery. We’ve been doing it for a week now and today we were running about an hour late for bedtime and she was so angry/cranky we skipped half our routine....wooops. Our plan is a little “extra” but honestly Both my parents worked really long hours and bedtime/story time is what I cherish from my day to day childhood and I want to make those memories with her.
7:30 playtime, bath time, or walk (but something more on the active/awake side) 8:00 night time bottle (usually a bigger one than usual). Lullaby/baby classical station and low lights. 8:20ish-move to nursery, diaper change and lotion mini-massage. change to pjs, read two short picture books while cuddling in her chair. (We keep the room Dark with only enough light to read) 8:40ish put her in swaddle and in crib turn on white noise machine, stay in room and read a word heavy book. 9pm leave and stare like a creep-o at video monitor until she falls asleep (though usually she is asleep before I leave).
Currently we are doing bedtime together and doing a 30minute “power clean” to try and keep the house from appearing on a episode of hoarders. But our plan for when we go back to work is to trade off nights while the other is on cleaning duty and then put her to bed together on fridays/Saturday’s.
Me:38 DW:33 TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
Dx: My wife has no sperm and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look 2016 * April IUI#1 - BFN * June IUI#2 - BFN * July IUI#3 - CP * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP 2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal * April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining) * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal! * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!! 2018 DD born 8/20/18 20195PGS frosties ( 4 remaining) * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
@2MomsHoping But if you wind up on Hoarders, you get a professional cleaning crew and organizer to clean up your house!
Chore mamas -- if you can swing it, I highly highly highly recommend a biweekly cleaning crew to do the major chores (washing windows, vacuuming, dusting, cleaning sinks/toilets, etc). Ours is 95 dollars every other week and worth every little penny.
~~ Our Story in Spoiler! TW loss/child~~
Fall 2012 -- started TTC Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016. September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo. Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice. August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP. Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18 September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!
TTC #2 January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156, #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!
@hottietoddy The recommendation I heard was sleep in the same room but not in the same bed for the first 6 months. My son is almost 7 months and he sleeps about 3 feet from my side of the bed (our bedroom is kinda small). I wake up on weekends with him staring at me. If your son is sleeping 5-7 hour stretch, I say don’t change! I’m really envious because my son sleeps 2.5-3.5 hour stretches. He wasn’t such a bad sleeper up until about 3 months and things have gone downhill since. First it was the 4-month regression, then reverse cycling, then more leaps, then series of illnesses acquired from daycare. I was so ready to implement some sleep training techniques a couple of weeks ago but he got sick and needed to be fed often (due to frequent diarrhea). His diarrhea is finally getting better and with diaper rash improving, I’m thinking of sleep training next month.
Me: 41 DH: 46 Unexplained infertility/AMA, polycystic ovaries, insulin resistance FET#1(July 2017): eSET of first of 4 PGS-normal embryos, DS born 3/30/2018 FET#2(Oct/Nov 2019): eSET
Thanks everyone, so glad to hear the other perspectives. Really appreciate it, just going to continue on our path for now and see what happens. Tonight my husband held him for 2 hours claiming he wouldn't sleep. I tried to be very nice about it, but was annoying. I love the idea of something active before bed as part of routine and I'm going to outline it more for my husband as well. Thanks for all the ideas!
BTW, I think the 5-7 hours includes feeding so it's more like he is asleep from 4-6 hours, but sometimes still waking at 3 hours and varies.
@mbradfo2 a professional organizer maybe I need to rethink this struggle and let nature take its course for another couple months but actually I think our office and basement might already put us in the finalists spot. We actually did hire a cleaning service we were able to keep costs down by having them just do the main floor in the house and our upstairs bathroom.
Me:38 DW:33 TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
Dx: My wife has no sperm and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look 2016 * April IUI#1 - BFN * June IUI#2 - BFN * July IUI#3 - CP * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP 2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal * April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining) * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal! * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!! 2018 DD born 8/20/18 20195PGS frosties ( 4 remaining) * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
So I know swaddling stops when they roll but she still has that startle reflex sometimes & I think she needs it, the sleep sacks aren't quite the same. Has anyone used a magic Merlin suit or nested bean?
Me:38 DW:33 TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
Dx: My wife has no sperm and apparently my embryos aren't as good as they look 2016 * April IUI#1 - BFN * June IUI#2 - BFN * July IUI#3 - CP * Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP * November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP 2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal * April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining) * November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal! * November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!! 2018 DD born 8/20/18 20195PGS frosties ( 4 remaining) * September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
Me: 41 DH: 46 Unexplained infertility/AMA, polycystic ovaries, insulin resistance FET#1(July 2017): eSET of first of 4 PGS-normal embryos, DS born 3/30/2018 FET#2(Oct/Nov 2019): eSET
Happy Halloweens! Anne's pictures are funny since she kept trying to chew on her frilly princess skirt and ended up looking -very- unlady like. I'm dressing her up this weekend for an official photo shoot (well, official mommy's phone photo shoot). She found the costumes that the other kiddos were wearing very fascinating. So many cute Halloween babies!!!
@2MomsHoping When we were out getting dinner at Disney, the couple sitting next to us had their baby in that same bib! They were super nice and I found out that their guy is 5 months old and we swapped a few stories Anne was wearing her first Halloween onesie since she just wanted to chew on her costume haha
~~ Our Story in Spoiler! TW loss/child~~
Fall 2012 -- started TTC Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016. September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo. Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice. August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP. Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18 September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!
TTC #2 January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156, #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!
@Aera11 yes! It was MAGICAL for my daughter, to the point where breaking her of it (when she could roll over in it) was hard. But I’d credit that to helping her sleep amazingly well pretty early on, and breaking her if it was just a couple nights with a few minutes of tears. Graham was meh, he’s 1 today and still a terrible sleeper so who knows haha. But I’m in an online group for my daughters age and it was the most sworn by product, plus keeps them extra snuggly in winter!
Re: PAIF Graduates - New Mommies - October 2018
Anne's been in her own room since very early on since she hated the bassinet. She will cry bloody murder when you put her down and leave, but we try not to make a big deal about it to her (patting her tummy, saying 'good night', etc). We then give her about 5 min to settle before going back to reassure her again. She usually only needs one of those times if any at all. She's a decent nighttime sleeper (don't ask me how to do naps because we are utter failures there). I try to do a routine with putting on pj's and singing songs but sometimes she's just so worn out (see nap failures) that she just wants to fall right to sleep. Our routine isn't really CIO; it's just letting her try to fall asleep on her own and learning to self soothe a bit. But she's also 7 months old now.
She hasn't sleep for a paci in forever -- since she rejected them in favor of her thumb
Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE
Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016.
September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo.
Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC
June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice.
August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP. Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18
September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks
March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!
TTC #2
January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle
March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156, #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!
"When all is lost then all is found."
@hottietoddy Aisleigh is almost 5 months & she's still with us. We're on a similar path as @mtpbadger. She was only getting up once a night so we were going to love her but then got s cold & hit the 4 month sleep regression.
Its very hard to get her to fall asleep on her own so I know she’ll be with me for some time!
Unexplained Infertility - but I am 40...Low AMH .30
7 - IUI (50mg-150mg Clomid) Feb - August 2016 all BFN
IVF#1 August 2016 (Antagonist protocol 4/5 eggs) Cancelled cycle
IVF#2 Sept 2016 (microdose luporn pro - disappearing follies, ONLY ONE, convert to IUI) BFN
IVF#3 November 2016 (4 ER, 3 F, 3DT)-BFP
IVF#4 March 2017 //EPP (10 ER (1 wonky so 9 ER) 7F, 3B (5AB, (2)5BB) PGS tested- ALL abnormal
IVF#5 April 2017 // EPP (7 ER, 7F yes! 6B) 2/5 day 4/6 day - 2 PGS normal! yes!!
IVF#6 May 2017 // Antagonist didn't have time for Estrogen Priming...(4 ER, 3 F, 3B) (5AB, (2) 5BB) 2 PGS normal, yes!!
IVF#7 June 2017 // EPP praying this is it and then on to an FET!
7:30 playtime, bath time, or walk (but something more on the active/awake side)
8:00 night time bottle (usually a bigger one than usual). Lullaby/baby classical station and low lights.
8:20ish-move to nursery, diaper change and lotion mini-massage. change to pjs, read two short picture books while cuddling in her chair. (We keep the room Dark with only enough light to read)
8:40ish put her in swaddle and in crib turn on white noise machine, stay in room and read a word heavy book.
9pm leave and stare like a creep-o at video monitor until she falls asleep (though usually she is asleep before I leave).
Currently we are doing bedtime together and doing a 30minute “power clean” to try and keep the house from appearing on a episode of hoarders. But our plan for when we go back to work is to trade off nights while the other is on cleaning duty and then put her to bed together on fridays/Saturday’s.
TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
2016
* April IUI#1 - BFN
* June IUI#2 - BFN
* July IUI#3 - CP
* Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP
* November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP
2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
* April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
* November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
* November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
2018 DD born 8/20/18
2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
* September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
But if you wind up on Hoarders, you get a professional cleaning crew and organizer to clean up your house!
Chore mamas -- if you can swing it, I highly highly highly recommend a biweekly cleaning crew to do the major chores (washing windows, vacuuming, dusting, cleaning sinks/toilets, etc). Ours is 95 dollars every other week and worth every little penny.
Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE
Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016.
September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo.
Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC
June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice.
August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP. Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18
September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks
March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!
TTC #2
January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle
March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156, #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!
"When all is lost then all is found."
Unexplained infertility/AMA, polycystic ovaries, insulin resistance
FET#1(July 2017): eSET of first of 4 PGS-normal embryos, DS born 3/30/2018
FET#2(Oct/Nov 2019): eSET
BTW, I think the 5-7 hours includes feeding so it's more like he is asleep from 4-6 hours, but sometimes still waking at 3 hours and varies.
TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
2016
* April IUI#1 - BFN
* June IUI#2 - BFN
* July IUI#3 - CP
* Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP
* November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP
2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
* April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
* November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
* November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
2018 DD born 8/20/18
2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
* September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
Happy Halloween everyone!
TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
2016
* April IUI#1 - BFN
* June IUI#2 - BFN
* July IUI#3 - CP
* Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP
* November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP
2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
* April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
* November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
* November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
2018 DD born 8/20/18
2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
* September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6
Unexplained infertility/AMA, polycystic ovaries, insulin resistance
FET#1(July 2017): eSET of first of 4 PGS-normal embryos, DS born 3/30/2018
FET#2(Oct/Nov 2019): eSET
@2MomsHoping
When we were out getting dinner at Disney, the couple sitting next to us had their baby in that same bib! They were super nice and I found out that their guy is 5 months old and we swapped a few stories
Summer 2015 - no BFP yet, labs normal, referred to RE
Fall 2015 - Summer 2016 - Further testing all normal. 3 IUI's -- BFN. Recommended move to IVF. Planned cycle for fall 2016.
September 2016 - Surprise natural BFP. MMC @ 8 weeks. RE expressed confidence that we just needed the 'right' embryo.
Fall 2016 - Spring 2017 -- Break from TTC
June 2017 - Started IVF; egg retrieval for freeze all cycle. 9 mature eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized. 2 4BB embies on ice.
August 2017 - FET transfer both embies. BFP. Twin pregnancy confirmed by ultrasound. EDD 4/28/18
September 2017 - Twin B stopped developing; Twin A doing perfectly! Graduated from RE @ 10 weeks
March 2018 - Baby Girl born via C/S due to pre-eclampsia -- strong and healthy!
TTC #2
January/Feb 2021 - Freeze-all IVF cycle
March 2021 - FET of 1 PGS normal female embryo. BFP! Beta #1 156, #2 472, #3 1241, #4 5268 EDD 12/5/21 - Christmas baby!
"When all is lost then all is found."