UO Thursday! 8/9

ladystout08 · August 2018

I think we missed this last week so make 'em good this week.

ladystout08 · August 2018

I don't believe that our society is becoming "too soft" or "too sensitive" I think it's just easier to call people on their garbage with social media and the safety of a computer screen now so we hear/see it more. Before the internet unless you were ready for a fist fight, you likely kept your mouth closed.

I also despise the term snowflake.

katethemom · August 2018

I don't like self-help books. I've never found them helpful - just full of common sense suggestions that I already know I should be doing.

kns1988 · August 2018

Facebook is way better than The Bump. Conversation features make so much more sense on fb. Not that I'm ready to switch over by any means. I just like it more.

saltedcaramel518 · August 2018

I like waking up early and rarely sleep in when I have the opportunity.

kns1988 · August 2018

saltedcaramel518 said:

I like waking up early and rarely sleep in when I have the opportunity.

Same! My favorite thing is when I'm up before everyone else and I can sit and have coffee and watch HGTV in peace. It doesn't happen much anymore because of my little toddler shadow.

kns1988 · August 2018

katethemom said:

I don't like self-help books. I've never found them helpful - just full of common sense suggestions that I already know I should be doing.

I do like self help books. I think they're usually written poorly, full of common sense stuff, and validate things you already know BUT they motivate me anyways.

kianarain · August 2018

saltedcaramel518 said:

I like waking up early and rarely sleep in when I have the opportunity.

yes!! Cup of tea and reading before anyone else is awake is my favorite. And in bed by 10 latest whether it's weekend or not lol.

galactickates · August 2018

ladystout08 said:

I don't believe that our society is becoming "too soft" or "too sensitive" I think it's just easier to call people on their garbage with social media and the safety of a computer screen now so we hear/see it more. Before the internet unless you were ready for a fist fight, you likely kept your mouth closed.

I also despise the term snowflake.

I do think you're right that with SM it's easy to call people out, but society wise, I totally think we've gotten softer. We were just talking a couple weeks ago about how much freedom we had as kids riding around on bikes and walking far without our parents and a few people were like I'd never let my kid do that now. Helicopter parenting or the participation trophy idea. It took me until my 30s to get married when my parents were married, bought a house, and were pregnant with me at 21. I'm not saying it's good or bad but I do think over all we are softer as a society. That's ok though, we don't have to agree on everything

Ps I do have many snowflake gifs and think it's funny
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

galactickates · August 2018

kns1988 said:

Facebook is way better than The Bump. Conversation features make so much more sense on fb. Not that I'm ready to switch over by any means. I just like it more.

I think I disagree with everything this morning. I think Facebook makes it so much harder to keep track of conversations. I'm in a couple ectopic groups and seriously good luck trying to find past posts. Also definitely not ready to make that jump yet, there are a few people in this bmb I'm not that excited to let into my Facebook world yet. <- maybe that's my UO.

emmaaa · August 2018

I absolutely think people are getting more sensitive or softer. It seems like people find a way to be offended by everything and eventually things that are actually offensive don't pack the same punch anymore.

kaf1788 · August 2018

I don't think people are getting offended about more things. I think that our society has largely ignored huge populations of people and genuinely didn't care if they offended them for a long time. And with shifts in popular opinion and the rise of the internet more people are able to have a voice. I watched the first ever episode of Law & Order: SVU the other day and it was fully of really awful "tranny" jokes. All I could think about was how that would absolutely not fly if the same episode was released today and I think that's a GOOD thing. It's not like there weren't a bunch of transgender people offended back then. The change is now other people are realizing they're assholes for allowing them to be treated that way.

Second UO: I really don't see the big deal about participation trophies. If they do anything to inspire kids like my chunky, clumsy 5 year old self to get outside and run around for a few hours each week what's the big deal? I was never under the impression that I actually won something. Trust me, it would take a lot more than a trophy to convince me I'm actually good at sports lol. Isn't the whole point of sports for little kids just to get a little exercise, learn to listen to directions, socialize with other kids,etc? Who really cares who won? I just don't believe that giving a kid a trophy for putting in effort and committing to a sport for a season is going to ruin an entire generation.

libertymomrn · August 2018

Too many people think they have a “right” to not be offended. And I encourage them to exercise that right; choose to not be offended! This pretty much sums up my views on that (though the language is a bit more colorful than I likely would have used.) This guy’s hilarious!

https://youtu.be/ceS_jkKjIgo

(The full bit is here.)

https://youtu.be/fHMoDt3nSHs

nononorman · August 2018

@galactickates w the amount of crazy that went on between this point and birth on my last BMB, I def agree with you on that. As much as it’s evident there are a lot of differing viewpoints on here right now, I don’t think we’ve seen the tip of the iceberg.

KLS123 · August 2018

speaking of facebook world, my UO is that I don't think it's appropriate to facebook friend your co-workers. I have had several request over the years none of which I accept, which makes it even more awkward. Like I really don't want you to have to ability to do a deep dive into the last 10+ years of my life. I like to keep my personal life personal and my professional life professional thank you very much.

ETA: That's what LinkedIn is for...

galactickates · August 2018

Real question not trying to sound rude - do participation trophies actually motivate or mean anything to kids? I feel like when I was playing sports and got one it went in a box I never looked at, but the ribbons and medals I won I would think about during practice and would hang on my wall. I was proud of them.

PolarBear517 · August 2018

I don't really like nutella. It won't make me gag or anything but I don't understand the craze.

skilouise · August 2018

@galactickates They never meant anything to me. It drives me crazy when Boomers deride Millennials for participation trophies, when they were the ones that bought the freaking things.

kaf1788 · August 2018

@galactickates I definitely enjoyed having the trophies displayed on my little bookshelf because they were pretty and I would have my dolls play with them. But I also never had any "real" medals or ribbons (like I said, unathletic child lol) so I guess I have nothing to compare it to! I was always super reluctant to play any kind of sports so I'm sure they had some kind of motivation for me to continue on for a few years although I'm sure my mom would have made me regardless.

drabong88 · August 2018

I don't really agree with participation trophies or not having kids understand that sometimes people win things and sometimes you lose. My SIL always let my nephew win at everything, I get it he's your kid you dont want him to feel bad. But he is now almost 7 and if my brother beats him at a board game or a race he throws the biggest fits because he doesn't understand why he isn't winning. He doesn't understand that it's ok to lose, it doesn't mean your a failure it just means you need to work harder next time.

pttomato · August 2018

The people I know who use "snowflakes" are the most easily offended by absolutely everything.

I think some of the "more sensitive/pc" stuff is really just being more respectful of others different from you.

KLS123 · August 2018

PolarBear517 said:

I don't really like nutella. It won't make me gag or anything but I don't understand the craze.

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PolarBear517 · August 2018

@KLS123 I dug deep to see if I could produce the most controversial opinion here

sweetyjenj · August 2018

I can't stand Mayo. Or Miracle whip.

I don't see the point, it tastes gross, adds a slimey texture, and it just adds unecessary fat and calories to everything. Yesterday I ordered a BBQ chicken sandwich that ALSO came with Mayo and I had to order it without Mayo. Why the hell do I want Mayo AND BBQ? What would be the point?

pttomato · August 2018

sweetyjenj said:

I can't stand Mayo. Or Miracle whip.
I don't see the point, it tastes gross, adds a slimey texture, and it just adds unecessary fat and calories to everything. Yesterday I ordered a BBQ chicken sandwich that ALSO came with Mayo and I had to order it without Mayo. Why the hell do I want Mayo AND BBQ? What would be the point?

+1 Mayo is so gross.

oaklandava · August 2018

Participation trophies are just unnecessary in my personal opinion. Why can't kids just want to play sports because it was fun? Why do we need this useless piece of plastic most of the time that says you were a participant in something? We're teaching littles to be interested and learn about sports, not "win" something, so why use the trophy which is a symbol of winning as a participation piece? If it's that important, a certificate is fine. My 4 year old son comes to the cheer competitions with me and he is always so excited when we win because we get a trophy. He is fully aware that when you don't win, you don't get one. In fact, one competition gave out 1st-3rd trophies and he wanted to know why LOL. He got a trophy for his toddler tot soccer participation and he gave it to his dad and asked, did we win something? My husband said no son, this is because you played all season. And he said oh ok...and went to get a cupcake. He hasn't asked for it or anything since.

I think it entirely depends on how it's framed to kids. Many times, they get the trophy and they don't know why. And they continue to get more trophies as the years go on. But they're not ever explained what it means. As a coach, I can see the product of many participation trophies in kids throughout the years. They sometimes expect something for nothing, and have to be taught hard work. All of which is do able and fun to do as a coach (IMO). It's a lot more fun to take part in teaching them than it is to sit behind a Facebook screen and complain about how youth today "sucks". I always want to comment and be like "If you feel that way, then get out and help change it!"

molosmiles · August 2018

I don't think participation trophies are necessary, but I also think each kid is different and as @oaklandava said, how they are explained to the child.

My DD1 has always been super competitive (I'm not, it's just who she is) and I didn't explain this to her before she did her first competition at gymnastics when she was about 4. It wasn't a traditional gymnastics meet where they rank you by number. It was ninja games style and she received a participation ribbon. To say she was pissed would be an understatement. She tried to rip it up and quit gymnastics because she was so embarrassed. If she hasn't received the ribbon I think she would have been fine. She's back in gymnastics and competing. She usually comes in last place and handles it with Grace. But I could see how the participation ribbon would benefit some kids. But how do you decide which way is right for the majority of kids?

merostomata · August 2018

sweetyjenj said:

I can't stand Mayo. Or Miracle whip.
I don't see the point, it tastes gross, adds a slimey texture, and it just adds unecessary fat and calories to everything. Yesterday I ordered a BBQ chicken sandwich that ALSO came with Mayo and I had to order it without Mayo. Why the hell do I want Mayo AND BBQ? What would be the point?

Lol, that condiment combo sounds soo yuck. I'm not repulsed by mayo, but don't like it- it's just food lube and in most cases avocado or mustard or nearly anything else is a much tastier option IMO.

Re: Participation trophies. I think a certificate, cheap medal or ribbon can be a nice way to to say "you did finish this season, way to go!" but a trophy is a little over-the-top. When you finish a street race as an adult, for example, some races will give out finisher medals- no biggie, no one thinks they won the race unless they did, but it is still an accomplishment to finish and nice to have the memory. Either way, I think politicians make WAY too big a deal of them and it's become another political symbol and an excuse to shit on Millennials and Gen Z. I really don't think they have much of an effect on kid's psyches one way or the other.

kianarain · August 2018

sweetyjenj said:

I can't stand Mayo. Or Miracle whip.

THIS!! I'm so picky about anything mayo-y. Won't get near it. I check my burgers/sandwiches before I leave the shop, I have gotten home and cried because there was mayo on my burger and I couldn't eat it. Maybe my FFFC? (I wasn't pregnant.)

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