RIP Anthony Bourdain (TW)

ladylinsey · June 2018

TW Suicide

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/us/anthony-bourdain-obit/index.html Link

Between this and Kate Spade, I am distraught. There NEEDS to be a change to the way we talk about mental health.

meggyme · June 2018

I saw this today! When we were planning our trip to Europe we scoured his many shows and articles for recommendations. He has always been our #1 resource for good, off the beaten path food and entertainment when we travel.

And I've always loved Kate Spade's sense of whimsy. That one hit me hard, because her happy, colorful designs led me to never suspect a troubled person, as I'm sure a lot of people in her life also felt.

I hope they both found peace. And if anyone ever feels depressed or has thoughts of self-harm, please talk to someone. National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255.

snarkles · June 2018

I read a Facebook post after Kate Spade passed that said how we know all of these celebrities who have cancer or other illnesses, but when a celebrity dies by suicide, we have the same reaction: "I had no idea they were dealing with this."

My question is, "WHY?" Why is it okay to talk about breast cancer, ovarian cancer, and testicular cancer, but not about depression? Why can they talk about their chemotherapy and double mastectomies, but not therapy and medication for mental illness? Why is it okay to check into rehab for drug and alcohol addiction, but not to check into the hospital because you are scared you'll hurt yourself? Why do we **make** people suffer in silence?

I'm with you @meggyme, we **must** change the way we talk about mental illness.

meggyme · June 2018

@snarkles sadly, it's because its a mental illness, which has a very heavy stigma in our society. Depression is often shrugged off as someone having a hard time or being a downer instead of something that is a medical issue that requires treatment. Mental illness is also often equated with being "crazy" or "unstable" and until people are willing to talk about these issues and face those stigmas head on, it will unfortunately continue to be so. But it takes those brave people to come out with their struggles to fix it.

Additionally, our medical insurance system does not help with these issues by not offering adequate coverage for conditions like this. I have a friend who suffered depression and had to be committed and shortly after had to declare bankruptcy because of the bills, which only made it harder to fight the depression that led to the bills in the first place.

But there are many anonymous resources out there for anyone that needs them, including the hotline I posted.

snarkles · June 2018

@meggyme - Trust me, I know all about the stigma. I am one of the only people I know who openly talks about my bipolar depression, anxiety, and OCD...IRL. IveI often been told to quiet down about it because it's"nobody's business." Ummm...but family friends who have breast cancer openly talk about their mastectomies and family members talk about their hysterectomies like it's no big deal. Like...all I'm doing is trying to help others and live. My. Life.

meggyme · June 2018

@snarkles I'm sorry if that came across mansplain-y. I was just speaking to the issues I see that make it the way that it is. I'm sorry people aren't more supportive because that is a VERY brave thing for you to do and it truly is the first step in bringing it out of the shadows.

holly321 · June 2018

Thanks for making this,

my brother committed suicide 1.5 years ago. We are open about it, but others act like it should be hush hushed. He was sick just like if he had cancer. Why should we be embarrassed?

Tw kids mentioned...

Both my kids are on the autism spectrum, with dd being most likely bipolar, but for sure has depression and anxiety, and DS has severe anxiety. I have had so many people give me *advice" to not tell them their issues, or to keep it quiet. I talk openly about it because we do need a change. I want them to not be ashamed of their issues. My daughter's kindergarten teacher laughs to this day that she introduced herself and DD said, "hi my name is ***, I have anxiety and my brother has autism."

prpl11butterfly · June 2018

I agree it needs to be more "open" and talked about. My BIL was schizophrenic. He was also an addict as a result of that (and ADD). MIL didn't tell people in the family how he died because she was embarrassed to admit it. How are things going to get better if everyone is "to embarrassed" to talk?

Tw, living children (neice in custody) mentioned.

Neice has Reactive Detachment Disorder and anxiety. She will be diagnosed with ADD. She is caught in the middle of a custody battle. Her mental health counselor dropped her last summer without notice because he doesn't want to get involved in the court aspect of treating her. We've been fighting to get her a new one but no one on our area take DHs insurance. Mental healthcare is lacking in this country and it makes me so angry when people say it's not.

nmbrcrnchr1 · June 2018

My story is different, but I feel I need to share. Almost 20 years ago one of my best friends committed suicide, we were 13. I know things change over the years but at that time he was hurting, and he felt like that was his only option. I’m terrified for the youth of today, bc I feel like there are so many more things going on than there were back then. This boy was my first valentine, and I’ve grown up to live to deal with his absence...but there isn’t a time that I don’t think....what if. And it makes my heart hurt bc I know this has only gotten worse, and more people will be hurt, bc someone felt like they didn’t have a place to go to. I should be more active. I wish I could advocate more, but most days it’s hard, some days it’s much harder. I know this is went the point of this post, but thank you, bc apparently that’s what I needed

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