July 2018 Moms

Re: UO Thursday- 4/19

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  • Not sure if this is a UO or a FFFC but here goes - I don’t quite get the outrage of people potentially tricking their loved ones with a fake pregnancy for April fools day? I see posts warning against it around that time and I wouldn’t do it but I guess I just don’t understand why it’s such a big deal. Someone faking a pregnancy as a joke doesn’t affect my real pregnancy or the struggle of someone who may be trying, right? I don’t mean to be insensitive or dismiss the feelings of others. Im just saying I don’t get it since in our society we joke about so many “serious” things. 

    *I’m not one to usually post potentially controversial things bc I’m super non confrontational so go easy on me ladies  :p 


  • @runsomewhere yes. 

    @ashbub714 I could see how it’s hard for those struggling with IF or losses, to see someone joking about a pregnancy when you’re going through so much to get pregnant yourself. It’s just something small you could do to save someone a little bit of pain. I know after my MC I took a break from social media because it seemed like everyone and their mother was having a baby.  
    Buuuuuut I’ll add that while empathy and tact are important, I don’t think it’s possible to protect every single person from every single trigger these days. 
  • I'm ambivalent about Any Schumer. Most of the times she is too much but I enjoy her in very small doses lol. Yes to legalize pot. Regarding faking a pregnancy, I personally think it's dumb, but I agree that it's not that big of a deal? Never really thought about it much and didn't know it was so common as an April's fool joke.
  • @ashbub714 I kind of feel the same way BUT at the same time DD was a surprise and this baby was conceived on the first try, so while to me it's a dumb "joke" I don't think I can fully comprehend the pain and emotional roller coaster that is infertility or pregnancy loss. 

    @acunamatada it's funny, while I agree with everything you say and I'm not strongly against it I don't love the idea. I'm 1000000% on board for medical uses but legal dispensaries bring so much crime and blight to wherever they are in my area. Plus, I don't see anything positive from the pothead lifestyle, I associate it with lazy losers and I'm sick of smelling it. 

    On the flip side I drink alcohol and being in CA, close to the wine region wine is everywhere. Every spa, outdoor event, athletic event, everything includes wine. We have kid friendly wineries and alcohol is the norm at every toddler birthday party I have attended. I cannot imagine going to a toddler birthday and having the parent pass around a joint. I do think that alcohol can be more dangerous than marijuana so I see my hypocrisy. 
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  • @ashbub714 I think the outrage you see about pregnancy as an April's fools joke is less about your family and more about putting it on social media. Although even with your family, you never know who is struggling to get pregnant or quietly dealing with loss. I agree that you can't shelter everybody from every trigger, but you can be sensitive to those around you. 

    I struggled for almost a year to get pregnant, in that time I was told we would not conceive without IVF. We somehow still got pregnant naturally - so this very well could be my miracle baby. It's hard enough to see everyone around you getting pregnant when you are struggling. Whenever someone posted about an "oopsie" I lost it. I can't imagine having a "friend" use pregnancy as a joke when I would have given ANYTHING to have a baby. So it DOES affect those struggling with IF or MC. It hurts them. And it's an unnecessary pain. 
    Me: 31 DH: 34 :heart: Married: April 2016
    TTC December 2016
    BFP 2/28/17 // CP 3/1/17
    MFI Diagnosis: Aug 2017
    BFP 11/1/17 // DS born 6/18
    TTC January 2019
    BFP 3/21/19 // D&C (MMC) 5/8/19
  • @runsomewhere ehh pre-baby a one-hitter was my way of winding down at the end of the day like a glass of wine would be for other people. That being said, I wouldn’t smoke in front of DS, or even while he was in my care. BUT I have had a glass or two of wine while with him at family gatherings, so I’m a little hypocritical too. 
    I also know some successful stoners- and also some who I would definitely label a pothead. Like alcohol it’s about moderation. 
    I’m surprised crime is an issue near dispensaries, I was in Denver a few years ago and there was a shop on almost every block and even with the huge homeless population it didn’t seem any seedier than other cities. Maybe it depends on the location? Like how there are some liquor stores in town I wouldn’t step foot in. 
  • @acunamatada yeah I can see how that may be something someone who is struggling may not want to see. 

    @MrsMiller8588 first of all I’m very sorry for your fertility struggles. And I agree that it’s a stupid joke that’s in poor taste but I guess for me it goes back to not being able to shelter everyone from triggers. Also, honestly until a couple years ago when I saw a post asking people not to use that joke I had never thought anything of it when I saw people do it. So I guess my assumption is that the people who do that and post it are unaware that it could be hurting people around them. At least I would like to believe no one would intend to be malicious.

    Honest question - does the same go for posting real pregnancy announcements? If that hurts those struggling with infertility or miscarriage should we not be posting those on social media as well? That’s another thing I guess I’ve never thought about when seeing pregnancy posts. 
  • @ashbub714 I think that's the point - that people aren't doing it maliciously, so the point of the "uproar" was more for awareness. At least that's how I see it? Personally I never posted anything about it, but I don't post much.

    My personal opinion is not to shy away from making announcements. I would have never wanted my struggle to take away from someone else's joy. And babies are big news! I posted my announcement on Facebook. I think they can always be handled with tact - one of my high school friends recently posted an "oops, guess we weren't very careful" announcement that stung a little, even being pregnant myself. I would not have thought twice had she just posted about the baby or being excited or whatever. 
    Me: 31 DH: 34 :heart: Married: April 2016
    TTC December 2016
    BFP 2/28/17 // CP 3/1/17
    MFI Diagnosis: Aug 2017
    BFP 11/1/17 // DS born 6/18
    TTC January 2019
    BFP 3/21/19 // D&C (MMC) 5/8/19
  • Agreed on the oopsies posts. A big WTF in my book!  In general, pregnancy is a sensitive subject. Social media are usually a highlight reel and rarely depict the struggles, but like you said babies are big news and I think happiness and success has to be celebrated, as long as it's done with tact in the era of everything-is-in-your-face. It's very tough to be happy for other people's successes when you're struggling and I've been there too...
  • I hate pot so i don’t really care if it’s legal or not just don’t bring it near me or come stinking of it. To each their own. If it makes my taxes lower because other are pay ok fine. 
    Pregnacy jokes didn’t affect me as much till my MC and endo issues. But people will be thoughtless and they will still do it. Again as long as it’s not directed at me i might say something to put it in perspective for them. My SIL was a bit judging when i had my last endo surgery because “was i getting ready to get pregnant?” No but so what if i was. Not her business just like i don’t ask her about getting pregnant after 3 months of dating. Joke all you want, real or not just be ready for what may come sooner or later. 
    I don’t like Nicki Minaj. Why does she have to grope herself in her videos? There is no video or short clip I’ve seen where she won’t touch her boobs. 
    Wow i sound mad today lol
  • zande2016zande2016 member
    edited April 2018
    Also, honestly until a couple years ago when I saw a post asking people not to use that joke I had never thought anything of it when I saw people do it. So I guess my assumption is that the people who do that and post it are unaware that it could be hurting people around them. At least I would like to believe no one would intend to be malicious.

    Honest question - does the same go for posting real pregnancy announcements? If that hurts those struggling with infertility or miscarriage should we not be posting those on social media as well? That’s another thing I guess I’ve never thought about when seeing pregnancy posts. 
    Snipped - to the first part, I think people being unaware that it can hurt others is exactly the reason for having the social media posts about asking people not to use that as an April Fool's joke. 

    To the second, real pregnancy announcements can definitely be triggers, but in my opinion it's completely different when it is fake/a joke. One is just announcing a real pregnancy, which can be painful for some but is a fact of life. The other is just an unnecessary and cruel reminder of pain for some for no good reason.  

    EDIT - sorry, I accidentally snipped too much - didn't mean to cut off @ashbub714 's name from the top 
  • Catching up...

    I 100% agree with legalizing marijuana. I also know plenty of people who are successful functioning members of society who smoke pot, and I know people who are alcoholics and not functioning members of society at all, even though their drug of choice is legal. I do know pot heads too, and don't like that lifestyle, but it would exist regardless of legalization and is definitely not true of all marijuana users.

    I don't mind Amy Schumer, I think she can be funny. 

    I never struggled with fertility, got pregnant on my first try with my son, and got pregnant with this baby without really trying. I did experience a chemical pregnancy before current pregnancy but got pregnant again right away. Regardless, I can definitely emphasize with those who have struggled with fertility and how painful it must be to see others making a joke out of it with fake pregnancy announcements. In my opinion it's just plain tacky. 
  • wildtot said:
    i don’t really care if it’s legal or not just don’t bring it near me or come stinking of it. To each their own. If it makes my taxes lower because other are pay ok fine. 

    Yes, this! The worst is getting on a public commuter train when someone on there stinks of it and the stench spreads throughout the entire train car. Makes me want to gag. 

    You don't sound angry, maybe a little feisty  :)
    BabyFruit Ticker
  • @runsomewhere we’ll say more like hangry lol time for lunch anyways. But yeah downside to CO public transit with all that stench.
  • @wildtot I also hate the smell, and the fact that it permeates everything around you. I also think cigarette smoke is gross, I hate the smell that follows smokers back from a smoke break. 
    RE: Nicki Minaj- if I paid for the amount of work she’s had done on her body I would be touching myself like it’s noooooobodys business  :D
    @julybabybear it’s not that bad! The techs were surprised how quickly I drank it both times- it would have been more tolerable if it was actually refrigerated. 
  • angleyeskkhrangleyeskkhr member
    edited April 2018
    My BIL and SIL will “joke” like that on FB allll the time. They’ll make these long posts about additions to the family or waiting a long time for something andset you up to think they are pregnant. Then it’ll be that they have to poop or something equally stupid. When my husband and I were actively trying for a baby, it got to the point that I almost deleted them because they knew we were struggling and I’d get happy for them just for them to laugh that I “fell” for it. Then last year, we got a call that one of hisband’s Cousins was having her kids taken by CPS. No one in that state was willing to take the two youngest (a set of twins) because the cousin/mom was making everything difficult. Husband’s mom called asking if we’d be willing to take them in. I told husband right away, we could foster/foster to adopt if it ended up going that route. But that we needed to let them know immediately because an interstate case would take longer. Of course as soon as we said yes, his brother decided to step up and take them in. The entire year has been a back and forth of “we want them. No we don’t. Yes we do”. I finally got so fed up with getting my hopes up and then being disappointed that I told my husband to tell them that I couldn’t handle all the “updates” and that if they give him updates not to even bother telling me because at this point we have no chance anyway. Then I ended up pregnant and while I know it’s for the best (no way we could afford 2 toddlers and an infant), I still get upset about not being able to offer those babies a loving and stable home. 

    But it I will say when most people would joke about it, I’d get a bit hurt then ignore it. 
  • Nicki Minaj sucks, lol. And as I mentioned last week, so does Cardi B 
  • Nicki Minaj sucks, lol. And as I mentioned last week, so does Cardi B 
    I just found out who she is, not a fan either.
  • @MrsMiller8588 @angleyeskkhr @cseley321 @zande2016 thanks for the perspective ladies. Your responses help me to understand the “warning” posts better. I used to see them as preachy but looking at it as a way to raise awareness it makes more sense to me now.   :)
  • Nicki Minaj sucks, lol. And as I mentioned last week, so does Cardi B 
    I don’t get the appeal. And I don’t think it’s funny/endearing that she talks like a Teletubbie on meth. 
  • Ugh, I hate pot smell. It is legal here and it is everywhere. I personally have zero interest in using it but don't care if other people want to enjoy it, I just don't wanna smell it. Also, seriously, don't drive while smoking it. Just plain stupid but we see it all the time here and our local news has been reporting an increase in accidents related to the use of it in our area.
  • I think the pot thing will take a definite shift in everyone's mindset. In Vermont, its not legal to purchase at dispensaries without having 1 of like 6 different major medical issues but on July 1 you can grow your own plants, 2 mature and 2 not, legally in your home! No license needed! It's amazing. A number of people I know will grow, and DH wants to, and I think people will have to really shift their thinking when they find out we are doing it or if DS says something because it will be in the house (but in our bedroom or downstairs), since its going to be legal and for so many of us its been this taboo thing. I would think twice before bringing it out to smoke at a toddler's birthday party I suppose, whereas we had beer at DS's 2nd birthday, but I think its more of the stigma of what smoking things do to the lungs. I think about what DS will learn when he's older about smoking and I want to set a good example, I don't want him to find out I am doing something that hurts me and come home and yell at me, or think that because i do it he can, and as he gets older I find myself being less excited about showing inebriation in any way while he is around because I have friend's kids who say stuff like, "Ugh, mom and dad are DRUNK, why do they have to drink so much sometimes?" and I don't want DS to see me or DH acting foolish because we are drunk or high.

    Wow that was such a stream of consciousness, lol. But basically what I think I am saying is we will all have to work hard to shift our view point of weed from this scary gateway drug to something that is just as acceptable in society as tobacco and alcohol.
  • @SmashJam that’s so cool! I’d love to grow but we’re still not legal here  :'(. I think that’ll change within the next couple years since MA legalized. 
  • wildtotwildtot member
    edited April 2018
    @paytonpedro DH and I never have never intended either. His childhood friend grows it to sell back in Cali and it actually personally makes me uncomfortable to be around. Just because i know it’s illegal to have that much and selling out of home. Not the people i like to associate with. DHs parents occasionally smoke and his stepdad smokes a few times a day (ptsd and in his 70s). My SIL actual comment to me how she thinks it’s weird I’ve never tried it. She said that my job must not be stressful enough. Um my job is stressful but i just don’t cope with it by smoking. Again to each their own but it’s my choice to not use or want to be around it. It’s just the way i was raised. 
    Edited because autocorrect
  • These are pretty good ones today! 

    Regarding pot: I’m kind of on the same page as @paytonpedro. Thinking about it being legalized makes me a little anxious. But I’m from a pretty conservatively minded family so maybe it’s just my upbringing. I’ve seen lots of things about the medical uses and that’s hard to say no to. If one of my kids or a loved one was really struggling with epilepsy or something, how would I be able to deny them something that could help them? 

    Regarding fake pregnancy announcements: Social media is a real pain sometimes. I’m not a malicious person and if I hurt someone even accidentally I’d be worked up about it for ages. But I also think people get butthurt too easily these days and I can’t always edit what I say to protect every person who’s suffering. 

    I agree with whoever said that fake pregnancy announcements are tacky. And usually the people who make tacky announcements are tacky themselves and don’t like to listen to advice from not tacky people. 

    Also, people who tell me I can’t do things make me twitchy and I want to prove them wrong. Which is stupid, but there you go. 

    Im also one of those people who gets pregnant really easily. There have been lots of times where I wish I could have struggled even a little bit because I feel like I’m not allowed to be happy that it came so easily to me. I know that people who are struggling don’t want everyone to have to struggle and I can understand the jealousy/hurt that they are feeling. 

    This is probably coming off a lot more grouchy than I intended. I’m not a horrible person, I promise. I’m just opinionated. 
  • I see weed as about the same as alcohol. The rules that apply to alcohol, a substance that is regularly abused and can actually kill you (and others by association), should be applied to pot. For example, people shouldn't drink and drive, or get high and drive. Shouldn't go to work buzzed or drunk, shouldn't go to work high. Shouldn't watch children buzzed or drunk... Shouldn't be high around children.  A legal smoking/using age can be implemented like it is for drinking. It should be taxed, regulated, and legal. I also think people should not be punished for weed possession the same way actual hard drugs are punished. And, really, who gets high and violent like people do when they're drunk or on other drugs?

    I actually hate cigarettes waaaay more than pot. We need to get rid of cigarettes, another legal drug that actually kills people in the long term. They smell disgusting, make users smell horrible, and smokers litter their used butts everywhere with little regard.

    My UO: This Is Us isn't that great. Watching it with DH and we both dislike most of the characters and the shallow story lines.


    Isabella & Julian & and now #3!
  • I love this thread today. Pot's illegal here so I have never tried it and I don't know if I would or wouldn't if it was. I don't have a strong opinion about it to be honest. 
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  • @flockofmoosen3 my thoughts exactly regarding weed. Cigarettes are 1000x worse. My entire life until I was out of the house I was subjected to my dad and stepmom's second hand smoke. My stepmom even smoked while she was pregnant with my sister. I'm so glad it's finally been made illegal to smoke in a car with a child (at least in NY) even though that doesn't stop my dad and stepmom from smoking in the car with my sister who's only 9. I really hope they get pulled over. Does that count as an UO? Wishing legal repercussions on family members who do harmful stuff even though they're family?
  • edited April 2018
    @lindsayleigh1989 Don't feel guilty, especially if this is what you and your doc decided is best. You need to take care of yourself so you can take care of the baby. I went back on mine too. My normal coping methods weren't working anymore and I spiraled, more than once. I don't want to be on the meds right now either, but it's healthier for me and the baby to be on them and be able to function.
  • @lindsayleigh1989 @noideawhatshesdoing good for you guys for doing that! Maybe it wasn't what you wanted but if its what you needed then its good that you did it! Don't feel guilty at all.
  • @lindsayleigh1989 it’s hard to make that step, but happy mom is happy baby! Don’t feel guilty! It’s ok to need extra help 
  • Fake pregnancy announcements are tacky, dumb, and not even funny and at this point not even original. Also just WHY?! This is coming from a person who has easily and unintentionally gotten pregnant..so I can only imagine what the people struggling with IF and loss think of them. 

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