Trying to Get Pregnant
Avrilmai
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TTC#1 10/2016
TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each.
BFP finally in 12/2018
TTC#2 06/2021
planning FET
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IF Testing and Treatment week of 4/9/18
Avrilmai
member
This is a place for those of us who have already started TTC, but have started infertility testing and/or treatments. You can express your thoughts, feelings, and frustrations on infertility. TTC can be a long journey naturally, then add in the difficulties associated with infertility, and it becomes a whole new ball game. The road to infertility can be lonely, frustrating, and complicated, so let's make this a place where we can vent, ask questions, and support one another. Feel free to resurrect this thread at any point in the week if you have something to say. Treat this as an ongoing conversation.
Diagnosis (if you've been):
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA):
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?):
How are things going?:
Any questions?:
GTKY: If you could have any superpower what would it be?
Diagnosis (if you've been):
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA):
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?):
How are things going?:
Any questions?:
GTKY: If you could have any superpower what would it be?
TTC#1 10/2016
TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each.
BFP finally in 12/2018
TTC#2 06/2021
planning FET
"Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks,
some doors are open, some roads are blocked"
Re: IF Testing and Treatment week of 4/9/18
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): Benched, I guess. *TW* I think I finally stopped bleeding. Last time I had a loss, I bled from the loss, and then two weeks later got my period. I wonder if it all ran together and part of that was actual period? I dunno what I should expect.
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Right now we are just trying to decide what to do. We have the two embryos left, so we will transfer them both in May/June. But if that doesn't work out, or if it ends poorly (which to be honest, I 100% expect at this point), then we have some choice to make. We might do another ER, but we have to choose whether to use H's sperm or donor sperm, since that might be the issue. And then we have to decide whether to give my body another chance, or to put it in someone else, because why risk it in my body when it can't be trusted? Or maybe we get donor embryos, but then, again, do we use my body? Or a carrier? Or at that point should we say eff it and just stop trying. Maybe adopt or something. We have no explanations for the losses, just that everything always looks perfect, until it's not. I just feel so guilty about getting pregnant and it not working.
How are things going?: I guess I just word-vomited all over the place up there, but I dunno. Not the greatest. It just sucks all around. I don't want to play anymore. I'm just so, so tired. I'm sorry I haven't been the greatest support, or even receiver of support lately. I feel like I am drowning in my own sadness and fatigue.
GTKY: If you could have any superpower what would it be? My sulky, woe-is-me self says getting and staying pregnant, because right now that's the stuff of comic books and fairy tales. Shits not real.
In truth, can be invisibility.
Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI (count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low progesterone
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BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015
BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015
BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day
BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018
BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
Met with OBGYN in January 2016
Me: all clear, H: OAT
November 2016: HSG = All Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt #1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17
December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization
January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC)
Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA)
FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018
May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus"
FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo.
BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019
Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two!
Lost Baby A 02 July 2018
Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018
Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
ER#2 ~Jan 2019
Diagnosis (if you've been): MFI - low count
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): ERA #2
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Well PIO starts again tonight...ugh. Good news is that my husband is only on night work Wed & Thurs so those are the only nights I really need to worry about timing and making sure he can stop home to do the shots! Biopsy will be 4/17 and hoping so hard that we get the green light to transfer next cycle.
How are things going?: I'm ok. I go between thinking there's no way this will work on my first FET, that would be "too easy" to thinking girl - stims and an ER and at least two mock cycles by the time we do the actual transfer is NOT easy. So I'm trying to be hopeful. We already learned that a transfer last cycle would have been bad timing and wouldn't have worked...we're doing this to give that little embryo the best chance possible to stick. So anxious and worried but thankful.
Any questions?: Nada!
GTKY: If you could have any superpower what would it be? Teleportation. I'd love to see all the things around the world but flying scares the living hell out of me
@50Wife I'll definitely be stalking through next week to see how PIO and the biopsy go!
TTC since June 2016
Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016
AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
Our journey has come to an end.
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): TWW I think, but FF is not entirely sure which day
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Trying on our own and waiting to get protocol for next IVF cycle!
How are things going?: I was going to say meh. But actually ok. I can see my ovulation getting weaker each cycle and cycles more and more irregular, so I just want to get these next three ERs done as fast as possible before my ovaries go into retirement. I’m pleased we have the green light to stim with next cycle, but I’m nervous how it will turn out. That my response will be even worse than before. That we’ll go through three more cycles with no normal embies to show for it.
In other news I still have to write my thesis, today I was back to work and DH tried to deep fry his Crown Jewels yesterday... life is not dull!
Any questions?: Nope.
GTKY: If you could have any superpower what would it be? I think I would go with @KristoKekerooni
@50wife It’s so difficult to think that this is all necessary, but whatever the outcome when you transfer you will know you did everything possible. Fx the PIO shots go smoothly this week - do you have it in sesame or olive oil? I heard the live is more expensive but gives less irritation.
@kristokekerooni my heart breaks for you. As @alohakumu said you did everything you could. If there is any help you need please just say.
@alohakumu also hugs to you. I know you don’t have the easiest time at the moment either.
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
@50Wife I have my fingers crossed so hard that all goes well at your biopsy! Nothing about what you've been through is easy, and I am so hopeful that that first FET will be all it takes!
@emmasemm Fx your ovaries respond well to the new protocol! Do you know yet what they'll have you taking? Also, tell me more about this deep frying incident with YH. What happened?!?
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Diagnosis (if you've been): unexplained, AMA
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): TWW
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Trying on our own
How are things going?: On the whole, pretty well. Getting good news on MHs tests (repeat SA and penetration assay) has made me unreasonably hopeful for this cycle though. Logically I realize that getting good lab results this cycle doesn't mean the sperm are any different than they've been for the past year, but so little of this is logical. I need to get past the hope and contact the RE to put in my prescription for the next IUI cycle though, and I'm finding that hard to do. It feels like an admission of (yet another) defeat. *tw birth announcement*
Any questions?: Nothing right now.
GTKY: If you could have any superpower what would it be? Telekinesis would be pretty awesome...
And for the deep frying incident check Sunday’s WTO.
I was closest to killing him - the last thing we need is his meat and two veg out of action! Needless to say we will also be freezing some sperm when he makes his deposit this time!!!
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
@AlohaKumu I just want to give you all the hugs, too.
@darkstar42 and @emmasemm Yay for your good news! Hang on to the little bit of it that you get in IF.
AFM:
Diagnosis: Old. And bitter. Super bitter. Also, using OH's frozen sperm since he is currently on testosterone replacement and is probably shooting blanks now.
Status: TTC break/WFAF
What are you doing: This past cycle, not much. Took my temp a couple of times around suspected O so that I could time progesterone supplementation so that I wouldn't get my period while family was in town, and that was about it. **TW for general kid discussion** Took a lovely break for DSS's spring break and visits from my in-laws just before and through Easter, then my parents and one of my sisters and her three kids starting Monday. Took DSS for his first and second hikes, which was just pure joy for me. It was so nice not thinking about TTC, especially when my SIL has a 6 month old and my sister has an 11 month old. But I'm feeling more like my bitter TTC self now that everyone is headed home and I had a BFN yesterday morning that confirmed that we did not in fact create a miracle baby. **End TW**
How is it going: Well, I'm starting to think about my next cycle and how I'm dreading starting to temp again and worrying about when O is coming so that I can inseminate vials of sperm that we are almost out of. I'm also completely bummed because not only did we not get a fat tax refund to finance a Hail Mary medicated IUI with, but we owe over $1900. Fuck. So the break was truly a break and I enjoyed it, but coming back to reality sucks donkey balls.
ETA this meme:
GTKY: I'd love to have the ability to time travel. I've always said I wouldn't change the past if I could, but these days, I'd go back and freeze a shit ton of my eggs so that we wouldn't be in this godforsaken mess. Also, I agree with @50wife that teleportation would be awesome.
Beloved SS: born 12/2011
TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016
**TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW**
August 2016 - dx with DOR
Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T
May 2017 - began freezing sperm
June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T
July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba
July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
@50Wife did you have to do any of your own PIO shots last time?
@emmasemm if you do 3 ERs in a row, about how long is there in between each one?
@darkstar42 yay for the good news about your H...but the sentence about the mishap—yikes!
@Aurora1973 ugh. I’m sorry about the bfn. And I seriously hate how much this all costs. It sucks
Diagnosis (if you've been): AMA, ovulation dysfunction
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): TWW
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): IUI #2 yesterday.
How are things going?: they’re going
Any questions?:
GTKY: If you could have any superpower what would it be? Hmm. I was thinking flying. But then I read @50wife response and agree about teleportation
@darkstar42 Not an admission of defeat - it's being a strong ass woman and doing whatever you need to do in order to get that baby because none of this is easy. I'm glad that your husbands test results came back looking good!
@Aurora1973 Well F and F. I'm sorry about your BFN and the taxes...wtf?! I'm glad you had a nice break with family though!
@purplg8r Wahoo TWW! Good luck!!!!!
And no - I didn't need to do any of my own shots, thank God!
AFM - PIO shot #1 for round 2 is in the books! 1 down, 7 to go!
@50Wife Yes! one shot down!
@emmasemm okay is better than meh, so it is a win. I'm glad you have a plan to move forward. How much of your thesis is remaining?
@darkstar42 great news about the test results. you're right with unexplained there are so few answers, nothing is logical, so take the wins when they come. will you do the same protocol this IUI?
@Aurora1973 glad the break was enjoyable, for me a break gave me back some of the hope because you're right the reality of a situation can really just suck the fun out of it. Love the meme.
@purplg8r any plans to keep yourself busy/distracted this TWW?
AFM,
Diagnosis (if you've been): unexplained
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): IUI #2, also had AMH blood draw yesterday
How are things going?: this week has not started out great, so I'm hopeful that things will improve
Any questions?:
GTKY: If you could have any superpower what would it be? (I apologize for this kinda lame gtky, i couldn't think of anything fresh/new so I went with a classic.) I used to say invisible, but I too like @50wife 's teleportation idea.
TTC#1 10/2016
TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each.
BFP finally in 12/2018
TTC#2 06/2021
planning FET
"Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks,
some doors are open, some roads are blocked"
@purplg8r well if things go to plan we will do them truly back to back with only the time until AF comes naturally in between! In my past cycles with progesterone supplementation this was my normal 14 day LP. But if we don’t I guess it could be a short as a week. If my estrogen or FSH is too high on CD3 we may skip a cycle and wait for the next one.
@50wife yep, that will definitely be a lot of stimming. But I’m not the first nor will I be the last. I know @dragonette505 has done back to back banking cycles too. Plus some of the other low AMH ladies.
@avrilmai ummm, too much? Ask me next week... DH is working on a go live on Saturday so I have a whole day to focus on getting pages written!
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
@50Wife hoping so much that this ERA is perfect and you’re moving right along!!!
@emmasemm any possible idea of what type of protocol? I’m super curious!
@aurora1973 hi friend! is it the monitoring that would make the medicated cycle expensive? Just asking because I have no IF coverage and clomid/letrozole is super cheap. If you’ve done the IUIs before was it the costs of meds that held you up?
@purplg8r hope this IUI is the one for you!
@Avrilmai GL this cycle!!! Have you ever had your AMH checked before?
Diagnosis (if you've been): unexplained
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): TWW
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?):
Going in for post O BW tomorrow then starting luteal estrace and ganirellix and stims for ER#2 next week
How are things going?:
Things are going well. I feel blessed that we were able to do IVF again despite no insurance coverage. Looking forward to moving forward and praying for a good outcome!
Any questions?:
Nope
GTKY: If you could have any superpower what would it be?
Being able to know the future
@beachbunnyxo123 Girl I've got my fingers crossed so hard for you and this cycle!! I'm going to be anxiously stalking you all month. In the least creepiest way possible
I guess with your timing we should be roughly together - maybe you are a few days ahead of me.
Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
@50Wife One PIO shot down..! GL at the biopsy next week, hoping you get the go ahead for next cycle
@emmasemm soo much stimming! I'm gonna hop over to the WTO thread and read this deep fryer story lol
@darkstar42 None of the logic, all of the emotions. I'm with you 100%
@purplg8r wooo TWW! FX for you
@Avrilmai Sorry this week started out crap for you, but at least we're in this craptastic week together. When do you usually O? I'm usually CD17 so assuming next IUI ~ 4/26 (but who's counting)
@beachbunnyxo123 rooting so hard for you this TWW
Diagnosis (if you've been): azoo
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA):WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): on to IUI#2!
How are things going?: ::TW:: early loss mentioned
Any questions?: We are only doing 2 IUI's before moving to IVF, so if this one works that's fantastic yay but if not I'm going to have alot of questions on here next cycle...
GTKY: If you could have any superpower what would it be? Telekenisis for sure. Mostly just to mess with people, but also because I am lazy.
ETA: typo
@leilee101 craptastic is exactly how I described this week when I was journaling Monday night. it has not gotten much better.
got my amh results, much earlier than expected, I fall into the very low category. this was the first time i've had it tested. I'm regretting not pushing for it when I did all of the other lab work.
TTC#1 10/2016
TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each.
BFP finally in 12/2018
TTC#2 06/2021
planning FET
"Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks,
some doors are open, some roads are blocked"
TTC #2 - August 2016
MFI
IUI #1-3 BFN
BFP 4/21/18 MMC 6/11/18
*super dirty lurking lurker*
@leilee101 TW
Unfortunately, I really don't have any advise on who to contact/where to to ask about those questions other than, that IS what your RE is there for. It is their jobs to be answer those questions. Whether you feel like you're being a pest or it's a dumb question or whatever, you are spending far too much $ to not ask them those questions. Otherwise, maybe posting, "hey I have a potentially TW/sensitive question who wouldn't mind me PMing about it"? Or even posting it on the 1st Trimester board possibly.
Again, I am so sorry *hugs* I hope things go perfectly next time, but you HAVE to think about what you're posting and how it will come across to others. Especially seeing as you just essentially posted "oh... that positive hpt that I insisted wasn't... actually was, but it didn't stick so it's nbd, where can I ask those questions next time?" <--I know that's NOT what you intend it to read as and it breaks my heart that it didn't end in a sticky bean, but how do you think that comes across to all the ladies struggling here?
ETA: more thoughts/wording & qfp
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LO arrived 11/9/2018! We have a baby!
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Me: 33 | DH: 41
Married: March 2016
TTC #1/IUD out January 2017
PCOS dx January 2018
Medicated cycle 2.5mg Letrozole CD3-7 February 2018
BFP 3/10/2018!
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Married 12/2016
TTC #1 since 04/2015
AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
7 retrievals, 3 transfers
Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality
Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
@leilee101
Beloved SS: born 12/2011
TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016
**TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW**
August 2016 - dx with DOR
Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T
May 2017 - began freezing sperm
June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T
July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba
July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
@Aurora1973 Are they quoting you for injectables? That could definitely be over $1k. And $600 is a lot of money! I completely understand why that could be an issue. I was more so curious what was making the cycle cost so much. Let us know what you decide!
AFM my BW today came back good so I started my estrace tonight and just got done with my ganirellix (actually cetrotide since it’s cheaper) injection. Even though it was only 3 months ago that I did this and I already kinda forgot. The cetrotide you have to mix with a dilutent and it took me a sec to remember. Anyhow, all good. Injections for two more days then estrace till AF and off to stims I go.
@Aurora1973 So sorry about the tax situation. MH and I were in a similar boat this year. Not fun to have an unexpected expense like that.
@purplg8r Fx for this IUI!
@50Wife Thanks. It’s hard not to feel defeated in all of this.
@Avrilmai We’ll do a different protocol for the next IUI. Clomid instead of letrozole, and doubling the dose for the ovidrel trigger. So sorry for the crappy AMH news. Have you had a chance to talk to your RE about it yet?
@beachbunnyxo123 I’m so pleased you’re able to do another cycle, and I’ve got my fingers crossed so hard for you!
@leilee101 I’m so sorry for your loss. Hoping for this next IUI to be the one for you!
AFM, we’ve decided to try one more month on our own before doing IUI #4. My teaching schedule right now would make appointments challenging, and I really can’t cancel classes. Pushing it out another cycle will mean the semester is over and I can go to all the doctor appointments I want. My temps have been dropping the last couple of days, so I assume AF is on her way. Just in time for our anniversary. Ugh.
@darkstar42 sorry you have to wait another month but it sounds like it's for the best. Stressing out about appointments and timing is tough. My work doesn't know about any of this so who knows what they think with all my tardys and random sick days
Thanks for the love ladies, @Aurora1973 you're right about it being super confusing. In a strange turn of events: I was harassing my insurance company to make sure to get the IUI authorization in by tomorrow so I don't have to wait until next month (already on CD4), and apparently they called my clinic and said they "made a mistake" with their previous requirement of two IUIs and are approving IVF?? So they've apparently authorized me to start my first IVF cycle now, my nurse called in birth control pills to my pharmacy already and told me to start taking them today. This was definitely a total turn of events but I guess I'm rolling with it..
Hi friends! I thought I’d join back in here after a hiatus.
@KristoKekerooni I am so so sorry you’re going through this. My heart broke for you when I saw your news. As far as giving support, if you’re not able to give right now, we all understand and will not think any less of you; you need to do what’s right for you and your mental state. If that means posting and ghosting more often than not, so be it. We will be here for you when you get back.
@50Wife I’ve been lurking your updates and while I’m sorry that you have to do a second mock cycle, I’m also happy they did the first one so that you know they’re giving your embie the best chance possible! I hope this is the last one and the next cycle you can move forward with the FET!
@emmasemm I hope the new protocol works for you and you have several little embies to bank for future LOs!
@darkstar42 Hugs friend. I know how tough this whole process can be and I hear you on so little of this being logical. We keep telling ourselves that this has to be our month for such silly little reasons. I hope this one cycle is just the break you need before moving forward with further treatment.
@Aurora1973 I’m so happy your break has been so lovely. Sometimes it’s so nice to spend that time with family. As for the tax bill, ours isn’t near yours but still a surprise when we found out we owe $800. WTF government and to DHs employer for not taking enough out!
@purplg8r I hope this is your cycle and you are able to take care of yourself during this TWW
@Avrilmai I’m sorry you didn’t get the news you were hoping for on your AMH levels. It is definitely quite a blow to get that kind of new. Hugs friend, I hope you have something nice planned to take care of yourself after that news!
@beachbunnyxo123 I’m keeping my fingers crossed so damn hard for you this cycle! Good luck friend!!
@leilee101 I’m so sorry you had to go through that. I agree with the others that your RE is there for you to ask all of the stupid little questions; after all, that’s why they get paid the big bucks! Also, I’m so glad they got the authorization to move forward with IVF, I’m sure it was a very welcome surprise!
Diagnosis (if you've been): hyperprolactinemia, DOR
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): TWW, 4DPO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): trying on our own for a bit longer
How are things going?: They’ve been a little up and down over the past few months. I stepped away from this thread because we decided to try naturally while we save up for an IUI and it was tough to see all my friends move forward with treatment while I’m in such a static place. After some conversation and re-evaluation of finances, we decided we’re going to move forward with an IUI with my cycle in July. In the meantime, I increased my HSA contribution and am trying to squirrel away every extra money I can.
Any questions?: nope
GTKY: If you could have any superpower what would it be? Like some others, the ability to see the future would be great right about now
"It's time to try defying gravity."
Married 6/11/16
TTC Since 6/2016
12/2016 RE appt; 1/2017 SA & HSG results - all normal
3/2017 Dx Hyperprolactinemia; 5/2017 Prolactin levels normal; 8/2017 Low Ovarian Reserve
8/2017 TTA for personal reasons; 10/2017 NTNP; 12/2017 Re-start TTC
7/2018 Clomid+IUI
11/2018 Letrozole+TI
12/2018 Letrozole+IUI
2/2019 NTNP
5/2019 Stopping all TTC efforts; living Childfree
I hate how much finances come into play when wanting to start a family. I hope this IUI is just what you guys need!
@leilee101 Whoa! So you're on to IVF?? Your head must be spinning! lol
TTC #2 - August 2016
MFI
IUI #1-3 BFN
BFP 4/21/18 MMC 6/11/18
Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI (count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low progesterone
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BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015
BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015
BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day
BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018
BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
Met with OBGYN in January 2016
Me: all clear, H: OAT
November 2016: HSG = All Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt #1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17
December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization
January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC)
Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA)
FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018
May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus"
FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo.
BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019
Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two!
Lost Baby A 02 July 2018
Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018
Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
ER#2 ~Jan 2019
@KristoKekerooni not nosey at all! So it's a few reasons, one being the higher success rates, but the main one is our limited number of donor sperm vials. Picking out a donor was such a draining process, we really do not want to go through that again if we can avoid it. We bought five and already used one, and while our donor is expected to have more available this summer, it's never a guarantee. It sucks having to plan ahead literally years in advance (anticipating futures LOs). And then this last experience just adds to it, I don't really know much about IVF yet, but my basic understanding is they grade the embryos to give them the highest success rate to avoid situations like the one we just had. Of course it never eliminates the risk, but any way to diminish that risk even slightly so seems worth it to me. I also want to explore PGS testing to see if that's a step we could take.
@darkstar42 & @RVAmom315 my RE is of the opinion that since my FSH was okay and I still O monthly that we will go forward with the IUI this cycle. if this one isn't successful then DH and I will have a full discussion with her about doing a 3rd IUI or moving to IVF.
@lulu1180 Hi friend! thanks, I allowed myself some time to wallow (skipped the gym, went home watch old TV shows, and drank some sangria) Now I'm trying to get back to focusing on the here and now since this new cycle is starting.
@beachbunnyxo123 thanks lady.
TTC#1 10/2016
TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each.
BFP finally in 12/2018
TTC#2 06/2021
planning FET
"Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks,
some doors are open, some roads are blocked"
@50Wife, I'm glad that these mock cycles have given your RE such good information. I'm impatient along with you for you to get to finally do your transfer, though! I'll be thinking good thoughts next week for you to get that green light.
@emmasemm, even though I'm still on my first cycle I already get the mixture of excitement that you're finally going ahead with the cycle and anxiety that it won't turn out well. IF is just so emotionally grueling. I hope the new protocol turns out well for you! (And I'll be curious to hear details about it!)
@darkstar42, sorry about the rough weekend. I get a little angry at birth announcements now too, and yes, especially if they've named their baby something dumb!
@Aurora1973, I feel your pain on the taxes, we ended up owing a lot of money too. I'm happy you got a nice break from thinking about TTC, though. I'm trying to get out to Seattle to visit my brother soon and am really hoping to do some hiking out there that should be a nice break from all this stress.
@purplg8r, FX for this IUI to be it for you so you don't have to move ahead with IVF!
@beachbunnyxo123, I'm thinking good thoughts for IVF Cycle #2!
@leilee101, I'm so sorry to see your update and can only imagine how heartbreaking that must have been for you. And wow at moving so quickly into IVF! I'm surprised they're throwing you straight into an IVF cycle without more time to adjust to the idea, but I'm glad you're feeling okay about it.
@AvrilMai, booooo, I hate that you're joining the "low AMH" club. I remember from getting that news myself how overwhelming it felt. FX the IUI gets it done for you so you don't have to face that tough IVF decision.
@lulu1180, I'm so happy to see you posting again and to hear that you're ready to move ahead with treatment. I'm already sending lots of good energy your way for success in July!
Diagnosis (if you've been): Dual factor: Low AMH, severe oligospermia
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): Stims portion of IVF - currently doing three vials of Menopur twice a day
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): We are in the middle of stims and I have my first post-baseline ultrasound and BW appointment tomorrow to see how things are going. We're hoping to do the egg retrieval on 4/19 or shortly thereafter.
How are things going?: Well, those who read my update last week will know that I have been under a tremendous amount of stress following a death in my family (I'm going to try not to discuss the death itself too much more here since I don't want to trigger anyone who may also be grieving.) I'm not feeling super optimistic about this cycle since I haven't really been doing any of the things you would hope to do during an IVF cycle--my diet's been awful, I haven't gotten much exercise, and I'm experiencing profound grief and stress that are definitely taking a toll on my body. So I'm more than a little nervous about tomorrow's appointment! FX for some miraculously tough follicles, I guess. Honestly everything else is so overwhelming right now that IVF has been perpetually pushed to the back of my mind, but I'm guessing that will rapidly change as we get closer to our planned ER date.
Any questions?: Has anyone else experienced a near constant headache on Menopur? I can't tell if it's just the stress or if it's a side effect of the drugs.
GTKY: If you could have any superpower what would it be? : I would love to be able to time travel (secure in knowing I couldn't alter the flow of history, so I wouldn't have to worry about erasing my own existence!). I'm a huge history buff and there are a million places I'd love to go check out.
glad to see you back here girl!
@Augusta108 Are you only taking menopur? No follistim or gonal f? Headaches are common side effect. As far as the exercise, I wouldn’t worry about it. You shouldn’t exercise during stims anyway because of the risk of ovarian torsion. Once you get towards the end of stims you’ll feel uncomfortable as well. I tried walking a few days but eventually I didn’t even want to do that. Don’t beat yourself up, the process is super stressful enough and I’m so sorry you’re dealing with such a tragic loss on top of it. I hope everything goes well at monitoring tomorrow. Keep us posted.
Edit- monitoring not minitingde haha
@beachbunnyxo123 Hi friend! It's nice to be back! And also nice to not feel like such a creepy lurker any more lol
@Avrilmai As strange as this may sound, I'm glad you were able to wallow for a bit but also glad you were able to move on. I know that news feels like a punch to the gut, but we'll all figure it out and get through this!
"It's time to try defying gravity."
Married 6/11/16
TTC Since 6/2016
12/2016 RE appt; 1/2017 SA & HSG results - all normal
3/2017 Dx Hyperprolactinemia; 5/2017 Prolactin levels normal; 8/2017 Low Ovarian Reserve
8/2017 TTA for personal reasons; 10/2017 NTNP; 12/2017 Re-start TTC
7/2018 Clomid+IUI
11/2018 Letrozole+TI
12/2018 Letrozole+IUI
2/2019 NTNP
5/2019 Stopping all TTC efforts; living Childfree
Beloved SS: born 12/2011
TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016
**TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW**
August 2016 - dx with DOR
Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T
May 2017 - began freezing sperm
June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T
July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba
July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
How's the shot itself for you? I hated menopur the most!!
@50Wife, the shots really haven’t been too bad so far, though my stomach is definitely getting a bit tender and I have a few small bruises. The hardest part has probably been how emotional DH gets about them...he really hates seeing me hurt in any way!
@Avrilmai I’m so sorry about your results. Are they changing any of your protocols?
@leilee101 I’m so sorry. Hugs
@lulu1180 I’m glad (yet sorry) to see you back!
@Augusta108 yay for 5 follies on each of ovary! Grow, follies, grow!