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Chart Stalk/Questions thread - Month of March

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edited March 2018 in Trying to Get Pregnant


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Re: Chart Stalk/Questions thread - Month of March

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    I created the thread for the month,  if it gets to overwhelming I can edit.  
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    edited March 2018
    Just looking for some advice. I started using FF in Oct. That month was a learning curve disaster. In Nov it pinpointed O and I thought it was getting the hang of it. In Dec I got "lazy" with holidays and didn't do a good job keeping track.

    **TW- BFP and loss mentioned
    I ended up getting my BFP on Jan 12. This resulted in a MMC on 2/28 followed by D&E on 3/1.

    I started temping on 3/5 to "keep and eye on things". To me, it looks pretty much the same pattern as before. I am assuming that is a good thing considering. I'm not expecting to O this month as I know that it is common (though my temps may suggest otherwise.....). Anyway. FF has always informed me my temps are rockier then most and it is again this month. Nov 17 and current in spoilers below. Ultimately my questions are 1 does it seem like this is just my normal and I have rocky temps and 2 or should I switch to vaginal temping? I know 2m is not much to go by but many of you ladies are far more experienced and may be able to give me some insight. Or tell me to calm TF down too. Whichever you prefer :D

    Edited to actually put chart pics in spoiler.

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    @prpl11butterfly Your chart for this month looks way better than the one for November. Do you temp the same time every day? You temps may be more accurate temping vaginally.

    Me: 31

    DH: 29, SA - Great

    Married: June 12,2011

    TTC #1: 1/2014

    Diagnosis: Hypothalamic Amenorrhea

    Treatment: Clomid:  50mg, 100mg, 150mg - not successful and not monitored

                      Menopur 75ml (upped to 112.5ml), Ovidrel, & IUI  IUI #1 8/31/2015

    9/15/2015: BFP HCG - 400, 9/17/2015: HCG - 827, 9/21/2015 - HCG 3,327!
    Heartbeat 10/2/2015: 118bpm
    DS: 5/27/2016

    TTC# 2: 12/2017
    BFP: 4/20/2018
    EDD: 12/29/2018
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    @AdorkablePixie within 10/15 min. I have fitbit alarm go off at 530. Sometimes I doze off again but only for a few minutes. I am sure of that because my wake alarm goes off at 6. I just had some ewcm....if I'm going to O, I need it to hold off a few more days... Hope to be pulled off the bench tomorrow am.
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    So I'm almost 100% positive that I am/did ovulate today. But now I'm wondering if I should cancel my MRI appointment I have scheduled for tomorrow morning. I know you're not supposed to have one during your first tri but what about before you get a BFP? I've sent a message to my GP already, just waiting to hear back. I'm just wondering if anyone else has gone through this same thing or knows anything about it?
    *TW* TTC history
    Me:32 DH:31
    Married: 8/2015

    TTC #1: 4/2017
    Testing: HSG, U/S, BW, and DH's SA all normal
    DX: Unexplained
    8/2018: Clomid + TI = BFN
    9/2018: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
    11/2018: Clomid + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    12/2018: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone \\ Cancelled due to cyst
    1/2019: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFP! \\ EDD Sept 30th, 2019
    10/7/2019: Healthy baby boy!

    TTC #2: 12/2020
    2/2021: Letrozole + TI = BFN
    3/2021: Letrozole + TI = BFN
    4/2021: Surprise! Natural BFP! \\ EDD Jan 6th, 2022 \\ Chemical, betas not rising
    8/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    9/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    10/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    11/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFP! \\ EDD July 29th, 2022

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    Update: MRI was cancelled.
    *TW* TTC history
    Me:32 DH:31
    Married: 8/2015

    TTC #1: 4/2017
    Testing: HSG, U/S, BW, and DH's SA all normal
    DX: Unexplained
    8/2018: Clomid + TI = BFN
    9/2018: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
    11/2018: Clomid + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    12/2018: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone \\ Cancelled due to cyst
    1/2019: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFP! \\ EDD Sept 30th, 2019
    10/7/2019: Healthy baby boy!

    TTC #2: 12/2020
    2/2021: Letrozole + TI = BFN
    3/2021: Letrozole + TI = BFN
    4/2021: Surprise! Natural BFP! \\ EDD Jan 6th, 2022 \\ Chemical, betas not rising
    8/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    9/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    10/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    11/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFP! \\ EDD July 29th, 2022

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    @LJMoon6 I think you probably would have been fine having the MRI done, but better to ERR on the side of caution.

    Me: 31

    DH: 29, SA - Great

    Married: June 12,2011

    TTC #1: 1/2014

    Diagnosis: Hypothalamic Amenorrhea

    Treatment: Clomid:  50mg, 100mg, 150mg - not successful and not monitored

                      Menopur 75ml (upped to 112.5ml), Ovidrel, & IUI  IUI #1 8/31/2015

    9/15/2015: BFP HCG - 400, 9/17/2015: HCG - 827, 9/21/2015 - HCG 3,327!
    Heartbeat 10/2/2015: 118bpm
    DS: 5/27/2016

    TTC# 2: 12/2017
    BFP: 4/20/2018
    EDD: 12/29/2018
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    Sheesh, this thread is dead. 

    Anyway, temps have increased for 3 days. Screen shot in spoiler. Does it appear that I O'd and FF isn't picking it up?


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    @prpl11butterfly I always give FF a few future temps to see what it is likely to do. I think if you put in another high temp for tomorrow (around 97.6) you might get CH. Did you only use the OPK for the one day?
    *TW* TTC history
    Me:32 DH:31
    Married: 8/2015

    TTC #1: 4/2017
    Testing: HSG, U/S, BW, and DH's SA all normal
    DX: Unexplained
    8/2018: Clomid + TI = BFN
    9/2018: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
    11/2018: Clomid + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    12/2018: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone \\ Cancelled due to cyst
    1/2019: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFP! \\ EDD Sept 30th, 2019
    10/7/2019: Healthy baby boy!

    TTC #2: 12/2020
    2/2021: Letrozole + TI = BFN
    3/2021: Letrozole + TI = BFN
    4/2021: Surprise! Natural BFP! \\ EDD Jan 6th, 2022 \\ Chemical, betas not rising
    8/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    9/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    10/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFN
    11/2021: Letrozole + IUI + Progesterone = BFP! \\ EDD July 29th, 2022

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    @LJMoon6 yes, because things are whacky this "cycle" **tw loss mentioned

    I had a D&C for MMC on the 1st and Tuesday was the 1st day I had a negative HPT (after a squinter on Fri)

    So I used the OPK because CP and CM were all "prime" for O. Up until recently anytime I've had ewcm my cp has been low.

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    @prpl11butterfly I would also say another high temp should do it - you need the average of three to be higher than the average of the previous five normally.
    Me 43 DH 45
    Married 12/2016
    TTC #1 since 04/2015
    AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
    7 retrievals, 3 transfers
    Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
    Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
    Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
    Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
    Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
    Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
    Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
    Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
    Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
    Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
    Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
    Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
    Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality 

    Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return

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    @prpl11butterfly I agree, it looks like you may have Od. I'd say either on CD26 or 27.

    Me: 31

    DH: 29, SA - Great

    Married: June 12,2011

    TTC #1: 1/2014

    Diagnosis: Hypothalamic Amenorrhea

    Treatment: Clomid:  50mg, 100mg, 150mg - not successful and not monitored

                      Menopur 75ml (upped to 112.5ml), Ovidrel, & IUI  IUI #1 8/31/2015

    9/15/2015: BFP HCG - 400, 9/17/2015: HCG - 827, 9/21/2015 - HCG 3,327!
    Heartbeat 10/2/2015: 118bpm
    DS: 5/27/2016

    TTC# 2: 12/2017
    BFP: 4/20/2018
    EDD: 12/29/2018
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    @AdorkablePixie I was thinking 26 myself because I have always gotten a temp drop day of. And 26th also makes me feel like we'd have a fighting chance this month. 27th would make me feel like we were too early. But DH had to leave early morning for a trip on CD27 which put CD 26 out since he needed to sleep (although he tends to pass out after so may have benefited him). 
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    New to all of this. What is FF?
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    New to all of this. What is FF?
    *dirty lurker*

    You should read this: https://forums.thebump.com/discussion/12685680/the-ultimate-ttgp-guide-newbies-read-this-first#latest
    *Siggy Warning*
    Lilypie Second Birthday tickers

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    I need some advice. I've always had irregular cycles, though when I started BC pills in HS it regulated. 

    TW* pregnancy mentioned
    We're only on cycle 1 right now, but my irregularity wasn't a problem last time we conceived.

    After my son was born, I didn't get my first PP period until a year later. That period lasted 16 days, and I didn't have another one until CD72.

    Ever since then I've had cycles lasting 41, 36, 43, 37, 33, 49, and 45 days, in that order. I'm currently on CD43 for this cycle and I thought I O'd around CD24-29 based on CM/cervical position, though still no AF and all BFNs. Aside from that first one (in spoiler), none of them have gone over 60 days, and I didn't think much of that one considering the circumstances, so I didn't worry about consulting a doctor. I guess I'm wondering at what point should I discuss my irregularity with a doctor? 
    DS1 born 2/28/16
    DS2 due 12/12/18

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    edited March 2018
    Does your Doc know about the irregularity at all? It seems a little like PCOS to me (I know very little about that and know there are ladies much more familiar with it here who can advise better). I know when your young and just starting your period it's completely normal to be irregular. So at that point it wouldn't have been a flag. Personally, I would mention it now.  It can't hurt to call and talk about it to see what s/he would recommend  (in terms of going in to be checked out or waiting some more).

    ETA @CecilB93
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    @CecilB93It can take a healthy couple up to a year to conceive (although if you are 35 or over its recommended to see a dr after 6 months). If you are ovulating and your cycles are under 60 days there is generally no cause for concern. Even occasional annovulatory cycles or long (over 60 day cycles) are not a reason to panic. Do you know how long your follicular and LP phases generally are? If you are not already, consider tracking BBT and using OPKs in addition to CM to pinpoint O. That will tell you if your cycles are ovulatory. Personally if I was having a recurrent annovulatory cycles (not including pp, that can be weird for people) I would consult a dr sooner than the recommended year, but people do differ on that opinion here.
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    @prpl11butterfly I don't actually have a regular OB/GYN I see, I've always seen different doctors due to being in different places for college.

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    And for my pregnancy I used a midwife.

    So I'd probably have to find a doctor and go in for an appointment. Which I can do if necessary, I probably need to find an OB/GYN anyways lol.
    DS1 born 2/28/16
    DS2 due 12/12/18

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    *lurking again*

    @CecilB93 I wouldn’t worry about long cycles in and of themselves. They aren’t a problem, and most of yours are in the range of normal. I always had 35 day+ cycles when not on birth control. I would strongly recommend temping and charting to make sure they aren’t annovulatory and your LP is a good length. Otherwise, you don’t really have a known problem.
    *Siggy Warning*
    Lilypie Second Birthday tickers

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    Thanks @lalala2004. I was temping and charting before this cycle (we agreed to NTNP and then I got a raise, so it was "quick, let's actually try now" lol). I plan to temp again once AF starts. In the last year I've had at least one an-O cycle, most have been confirmed O though.
    DS1 born 2/28/16
    DS2 due 12/12/18

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