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Re: Product Spotlight 2/12: Baby Wearing
Here is the link to the one that I have on my registry: https://www.lillebaby.com/baby-carriers/completetm/airflow/complete-airflow-donuts-and-sprinkles.html
The cost is expensive at $135... but the friends that do have this carrier do not own a stroller. They specifically carry the child around in this.
Have an S+TM had this brand of carrier or a structural carrier that could offer some additional insight?
Married 5/2015
BFP 11/27/2015 - EDD 8/4/2016
Baby Boy born 8/13/2016 ~ 8lbs 7oz
BFP 1/6/2018 - EDD 9/19/2018
Married 5/2015
BFP 11/27/2015 - EDD 8/4/2016
Baby Boy born 8/13/2016 ~ 8lbs 7oz
BFP 1/6/2018 - EDD 9/19/2018
My favorite brand is Vienna Springs. She’s a WAHM with 2 girls and her turnaround time is 2 weeks MAX. Prices vary depending on what type of fabric you choose and there is a BST FB group that I absolutely LOVE!
This is me and DD#3 almost a year ago.
BFP#1: 11/15/2010 * Missed M/C 12/28 * D&C 12/29/2010
BFP#5 12/26/2017 *SURPRISE* Due 09/02/2018
I also heard that they can run hot, so I got the solly as well, and I have two of those. The material is very soft and also stretchy, bit lighter weight, more like a tee shirt material. More important maybe to keep a summer baby cool, but if it's fall and throwing on a fall jacket or a cardigan over, I personally feel like it will be nice to be able to choose between the warmer Moby perhaps around the house, and the cooler solly for layering. Idk.
Neither one though is really recommended for carrying a heavy toddler, so these would be good for brand new baby, winter/spring infant as well, but at some point to be able to continue wrapping, a woven is recommended. You could always continue to research and wear baby in whatever you get to start, and determine what your prefences would be for a woven / toddler wrap when the time comes, as the wovens are generally pricier, too, and I personally would rather invest in something I have a pretty good idea I'm going to like and want to keep, vs. not actually be crazy about for whatever reason and want to resell right away. Just my two cents as a FTM with already a decent little stash started! lol
- Favorite [baby carrier brand]:
Umm, I have multiple favorite woven wrap brands. Didymos is my go to recommendation for new wrappers simply because of the cost and the variety. My absolute favorite is Didymos Cleo. It has stripes which can really help you while learning how to tighten. It is thin but very sturdy.- Link/picture:
This is out of Canada but they also have cheap shipping to the US:https://www.birdiesroom.com/33-babywearing-wraps
And this is one of my favorite US retailers who carries more brands than Didymos:
https://www.purpleelmbaby.com/collections/woven-wrap-baby-carriers
- Cost (either actual dollar amount, or just $, $$, $$$, etc.):
Didymos tends to range from $100 to $300. $150 is pretty average for a size 6.- What you like about it:
So, what I like about woven wraps in general is the varied ways they can be used. You are not stuck with one use. I also found them much easier to adjust than soft structure carriers.- What you don't like about it, if anything:
I don't really have any complaints. There is a bit of a learning curve but that can be expected with anything.- Is there a [baby carrier] you don't have but are considering? Why?:
I got to try a lot of variety with DD. So, this time I'm just going to have a few wovens.- Is there a [baby carrier] you've tried that you absolutely hate? Why?:
I hesitate to answer this because it all comes down to personal preference. What works best for one body type my not work for another.Personally, I have a hard time finding SSCs that work for my body type. I have narrow, sloping shoulders and it just felt like I was constantly having to try to keep the straps from sliding off.
I was also not a fan of stretchy wraps like Moby. They aren't usable for very long, they are hard to adjust, and they just bugged me.
- Additonal thoughts about baby carrier]?:
I really enjoy wovens. I like that they are so easily adaptable. Of all the types of carriers that I tried, they had the best staying power. You can easily use the same wrap from birth to the end of your Wearing days. (And they aren't going to just not fit you. You may have some carries that are more comfortable than others)My biggest advice for buying a wrap is to get something you are drawn to because you are more likely to push through the learning curve.
Oh and as always, check to see if you have a Babywearing International chapter in your area. They will have educators and a variety of carriers for you to try. You can start attending meetings now and try carriers with their weighted dolls. It's a really great resource if you have a chapter in your area.
ETA photo, same carrier used in three different types of carry (back, hip, and front).
And obligatory disclaimer, this picture features a WOVEN wrap. They are made to be tightened AFTER you have placed baby in the carrier. This allows for back carries.
DO NOT attempt a back carry with a stretchy knit wrap like a Moby. Carriers like Moby are made to be tightened before the baby is placed in the carrier. You cannot tighten them with after the fact and it will not be tight enough to keep the Wrapee in place.
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bfp#3- 9/26/14. EDD: 5/7/15. no heartbeat found @ 1st u/s, natural mc 10/23/14. "Little Bug"
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- Favorite [baby carrier brand]:
For my first, I used a homemade-Moby when he was a newborn, switched to a ring sling when he was able to hold his head up reliably, and then started using a Lillebaby soon after for times when my husband was around because it's harder to put DS in there by myself.- Cost (either actual dollar amount, or just $, $$, $$$, etc.):
Homemade moby -- $Ring Sling -- $$
Lillebaby -- $$$
As someone else pointed out, we didn't mind spending more money on carriers because we don't have a stroller. After a trip to Mexico this past weekend, I'm more committed than ever to this method because it was so incredibly versatile. I wore DS for his naps but when I was uncomfortable, DH wore him quite a bit too.
- What you like about it:
The "moby" was nice because it gave a lot of support with a newborn and kept him warm (he was born during a blizzard). Also, it kept people from wanting to hold him during flu season. He never got sick as a newborn.The ring sling was wonderful because I could put him in by myself. If he was fussy when I was at home, I could pop him in and out very quickly. The moby took a lot of work every time so I would just wear it even when he wasn't in it but that meant it stretched out throughout the day and I would have to redo it a couple times. The RS was perfect for when I ran errands by myself. Now, at 13 months, DS is heavy and it puts some strain on my shoulder if I have to wear it for long but for quick errands I still grab it.
The Lillebaby is great for longer hikes. DH and I are similar in size so that isn't an issue. It's super easy to put DS in (if we help each other) and it has a lot of hip support. The weight is carried on the hip band, not the shoulder, like a hiking backpack. Also, the cover means that if he falls asleep, we can put that up and it keeps him from startling as often.
- What you don't like about it, if anything:
Moby -- too stretchy to use when the baby gets heavier. Hot. Hard to use on and off throughout the day.RS -- strain on my shoulders when DS got bigger
Lillebaby -- hard, but not impossible, to use when I'm by myself.
- Is there a [baby carrier] you don't have but are considering? Why?:
A woven wrap or a silk RS. No need but they look beautiful and could be fun to try.- Is there a [baby carrier] you've tried that you absolutely hate? Why?:
Anything that doesn't have the hip support. I did a lot of research to make sure anything I got would not be strappy but would have the wide waist with extra support.Favorite [baby carrier brand]:
Link/picture:
Cost (either actual dollar amount, or just $, $$, $$$, etc.):
What you like about it:
Tula offers some truly gorgeous canvas prints and woven carriers, that are great for all skill levels. The company also makes blankets that are ridiculously soft, bath towels, bags and backpacks!
Lenny Lamb is very similar to Tula in terms of the variety of products, however ALL Lenny Lamb carriers are made out of woven wrap fabric. This makes the Lenny Lamb carriers insanely soft and easy to break in. They offer two different size SSC's, wraps, ring slings, mai tais, wrap tais and blankets.
Solly is the perfect stretchy wrap for Newborns. The fabric is lightweight and breathable (opposite of Moby). There is a slight learning curve, but Solly has made some great video tutorials available + they have a babywearing educator who can easily help you out!
Wild Bird is new to me, but I really love their fabrics and structure of the carriers.
What you don't like about it, if anything:
A standard tula is NOT ideal unless you have a 9+ month old. If you want a SSC (Soft Structured Carrier) you want the Free to Grow as you can use it from Day 1 of your newborn squish, up to Toddlerhood.
Is there a [baby carrier] you don't have but are considering? Why?:
Nope! I've tried about two dozen different carriers, the ones I shared above are my hands down favorites.
Is there a [baby carrier] you've tried that you absolutely hate? Why?:
I hate Beco's. They are uncomfortable and kind of frustrating to use.
Additional thoughts on BABWEARING ?:
This is probably one of my favorite topics. I'm very passionate about babywearing and really enjoy helping others find carriers that are perfect for them! My blog is insanely out dated because momming 2 kids and moving to a new state is hard, but I have a few write ups on baby carriers and whatnot here
Married to DH for 6 years (together for 16)
DS born 12.13.14
DD born 10.15.16
BFP 1.24.18, MC 3.13.18
BFP 4.25.19, EDD 12.31.19
I got the Mei Tei off Amazon for $35 and used it for the first few months while DS was little. I upgraded to the Lillebaby which I got off Amazon for $120 (only $84 on the Lillebaby site right now) once he was bigger and could support his own head more.
So far there has been nothing I didn't like about either. I tried a K'tan before the Mei Tei and hated it. It felt like it was too tight, but the next size up was way too big to be used safely. It took a couple tries of putting it on before I was completely comfortable doing it, but I found it easy enough to use that I could get DS up in the carrier in the middle of a parking lot no problem.
I also find the Lillebaby to be easy to use. Getting it adjusted right the first time I used it took some time, but after that it's so quick to snap on. I even used it this past Christmas when DS was 15 months for Christmas Tree shopping and he was still comfortable to carry in it.
MMC 8/5/15 at 8 weeks
DS born 9/13/16
BFP 1/13/18 - EDD 9/20/18 - It's a boy!
I havent found a wrap wrap I like because I always feel like it takes too long to get baby into...I have been a fan of the more structured carries. I am interested in trying a ring sling this go around though.
I think lillebaby is having a sale right now too!
I live in New York. Would I need something different for winter or would most carriers accommodate a baby bulked up in winter clothes?
MMC 8/5/15 at 8 weeks
DS born 9/13/16
BFP 1/13/18 - EDD 9/20/18 - It's a boy!
I've spent a LOT of hours and brain power on babywearing information. Some would say too much. LOL
First of all, I did not take full advantage of babywearing with my daughter, and I plan to change some of that this time. I think it will partly be a necessity with some different life circumstances, but it also took me FOREVER to get into any sort of groove as a new mom. I felt like every single routine I had was totally thrown out the window, and I didn't have many solid routines to begin with. I need to find a way to continue as close as possible to what's working for us now even with an infant, and babywearing makes so much sense for helping get things done.
There's a ton of info out there on types of carriers and how to use them, so don't be afraid to do some research. Find something that works for *you*. Facebook is an awesome resource for buying and learning.
I'm just going to make this multiple posts so I can separate info more easily. Before I do, though, here's what I plan to have in my babywearing stack for this little one, although some details might change:
* Baby K'tan
* Torso-carry wrap (kitenge that my mom got me in Africa)
* Size 2 woven (cotton, machine-woven Pretty Paisley)
* Size 4 woven (cotton/silk blend, Sling Studios)
* Size 6 woven (cotton, Ellevill Jade, really a 7 but it wraps short)
* Ring sling (cotton, Girasol, with fringe - and it's a rainbow for this rainbow baby)
* Baby-size SSC (DIY, apron-style similar to a Connecta, made from another kitenge + linen canvas)
* Baby-size meh dai (DIY from a Cari Slings wrap)
* Toddler-size half-buckle - meh dai with buckle waist (DIY from a Kokoskaa Tencel-blend wrap)
* Toddler-size SSC (Kinderpack)
* Probably a preschool-size buckle onbuhimo, because I want one for a trip we're taking this summer (DIY)
* Possibly a nyia, because I might have some extra fabric
* Possibly another ring sling, if I like them. Will keep one in the diaper bag and one at home if so.
We don't really wear much right now, although my 3 year old wants up at the grocery store sometimes. I generally use the Kinderpack with her because I keep it in the car and it's quick for when she only wants up for a very short time.
Expecting again -- EDD 7/27/20
I didn't get to try any of their silk blends though. I hear they are lovely.
ETA- I also had an Ellevill at one point. Very grippy and fun to wrap with! I could never get used to the tapers though.
Married Aug. 2013
TTC #1 Sep. 2016
***TW***
BFP Jun. 5, 2017; MMC Aug. 2, 2017 at 11w6d
BFP Nov. 20, 2017; ended in CP
All the tests. Everything normal except treated for ureaplasma and DH potentially has high DNAF.
BFP Dec. 25, 2017; EDD Sep. 5, 2018; DD arrived Aug. 26th
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I ended up having a larger coat that I zipped as much as I could, wrapped an extra scarf around DD, and made sure all of her limbs were cozy.
This is one of the types of East Asian style babycarriers. A meh dai is basically a rectangle of fabric with a strap at each corner - the two bottom ones tie around your waist, and the top 2 go over your shoulders then around baby to secure him/her. There are narrower, flat strap versions, and there are also wide straps, either plain or padded at the top of the shoulders, usually made of wrap fabric.
They're not as versatile as a wrap, and your LO will grow out of it. If you babywear into the toddler years, you'll likely need to size up, although they can fit for a large time range. The Infantino in particular I've heard can get less comfortable with an older baby. Some really nice versions are very, very expensive. It could probably be pre-tied but would be a little tricky.
The other main type is a podaegi. A Hmong carrier or nyia is similar so I'm grouping them together. Both are typically used for back carries. A podaegi is a Korean carrier that's basically a long blanket with a strap at the top; the whole thing gets wrapped around you and LO and then the straps tie everything in place. A nyia is similar in that it has a strap across the top, but the "blanket" is a much narrower panel. I don't know of any commercially made ones off the top of my head. I did have a nyia for a while and I could easily get a nice, high carry with it. I always had some trouble getting the strap across the right part of my daughter's back, though, and we stopped using it. I might try another one with a smaller child, I think most of the trouble was in getting a heavy, older toddler onto my back and figuring out how to get everything positioned. She was pretty impatient at that point.
Podaegi:
Nyia:
Expecting again -- EDD 7/27/20
There are two main types of wraps, stretchy/knit wraps and wovens. Stretchies are very popular with little babies, but wovens can be used from newborn to preschooler and up.
I don't have a particular favorite. For wovens, Sling Studios has my favorite in looks but they're very expensive; I only have one because I happened to see someone selling a used one for a super good price and I snagged it. Cari Slings has some nice wraps and can very reasonable (especially used but they have some for $55 in their online shop right now). Didymos has a huge variety of tried and true wraps. Girasol is another good standby. Pavos are higher end but can be found at good prices. Some are very thick and a little tougher to use if you're new to wrapping, though. Used wraps are usually cheaper and often broken in, which makes them softer and floppier and easier to use. If you want to try one, get something medium weight, all cotton. There's tons of info on different brands all around the internet.
For a stretchy, I've only used a K'tan. They're sometimes hard to figure out the right size, so they don't work for everyone. But they're easy to use, nothing to drag on the ground. Moby, Solly, Boba are all good wrap styles. They can all be pre-tied at home and then the baby put in when you get where you're going.
Used stretchy wraps can be as cheap as $10; wovens can be found used for $40-50 or up to $1000+ for specialty handwoven ones.
The same woven wrap can be used for a variety of caregivers and children. It can last from newborn until you're done wearing. There are a ton of different "carries" that let you use the wrap in the way that's most comfortable for you.
A stretchy wrap is just soft and easy to wear and feels like it must be snuggly for LO.
Woven have a learning curve. They can get very pricey, and some of the wearers can be kind of snobby about it. Not all, but some.
Stretchy wraps only work comfortably until around 15-20 lb.
Woven wraps come in sizes. They are typically size 2-8, sometimes you can find a 9. I don't think I've ever seen a 1, although a ring sling without rings would be about that size. Any wearer can use almost any size wrap, although at the ends of the size spectrum it would get less flexible. The thing that changes is what carries you can do with which size, which is just the different ways you can tie the wrap around you. This changes as your child grows, too. Some people have a variety of sizes to do different types of carries with, some people just stick with one wrap in one size for simplicity. Many people start with their "base" size, which is considered the size you need to do a specific carry called Front Wrap Cross Carry. It's commonly a size 6, although 7 is also very common and can really be anywhere from a 5-8 typically. A base-2 is another size with lot of common carries.
YouTube has a gazillion tutorials of how to use wraps. Find a resource you like and use it.
Expecting again -- EDD 7/27/20
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I've tried a few brands but not a ton. There are so many variations out there. My current SSC is a Kinderpack, and they were the first/one of the first to have an adjustable infant size (so the carrier cinches down to let a small baby fit comfortably without an insert). I had a standard Tula first, then tried a toddler Connecta, a Kanga XT, and a toddler Kinderpack. I was happy with any of them, but the Kinderpack fit me better than the Tula. SSCs, because they're sort of adjustable but not as much as a wrap or softer carrier, tend to be like jeans. They fit different bodies differently, and while there are many, many quality carriers, it can take some trial and error to find the best one for you. I prefer carriers that don't require an infant insert; they're an extra expense, extra piece of something to hang onto, extra hassle - but they aren't the end of the world.
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They're pretty straightforward. There's a strap that buckles around your waist and a set of straps that goes over your shoulders.
Some carriers let you cross the straps (my preference for front carrying, otherwise the straps always slip off my shoulders and I hate trying to get a chestbelt fastened on my back).
Some have PFAs, which let you change the length of the padded part of the straps. That can be really helpful if you have two or more people using the carrier who are pretty different in size.
Some let you adjust in two directions, which just makes it easier to adjust while the carrier is on you.
Many have hoods, which is great for keeping floppy sleeping heads from rolling all around. My daughter never really slept in the carrier so it wasn't a huge deal for us, but I liked having the option. Hoods attach all different ways, and some create a little pocket when they're stored.
Some have mesh panels in the center to get a little more airflow to LO, but that's generally not a huge difference in how the wearer will feel.
They can look pretty plain, which is a plus for some people, a negative for others. Slipcovers can make them more your style.
They usually do front and back carries, and some do outward facing front carries - which is only useful for a short time period for most people, and some people never need to do it at all. It can be really useful with some babies, though.
They aren't super customizable in terms of fit. Some waistbands are really bad at pushing down your pants. They load the weight mainly on your pelvis and hips, which is fine for most people but could cause issues for some. It can be bulky to carry around. It can be hard to get a good fit in a front carry by yourself if the straps tend to slip on you.
I'll probably do a Connecta/Integra style carrier for the baby size. Instead of a padded waist, it just has webbing or possibly fabric straps (with buckles). It's usually worn a little higher and "apron style." If MH is interested in wearing at all, it's only in a SSC. I don't know if he'd be comfortable with the non-structured waist, so I'd contemplate another Kinderpack if I see one for a great price, or a Kanga X2, but I never see those used. We still use the toddler size or I'd try to trade.
Expecting again -- EDD 7/27/20
No personal favorite. Sakura Bloom, Wildbird are popular, and a lot of wrap/carrier brands make them from their own wrap fabric (Tula, Lillebaby, Oscha, etc). These are made from a variety of materials - the most common are linen, silk, and wrap material. Some are floating around made from regular quilting cotton in a double layer, but that stuff rips and wears out so easily, I wouldn't feel safe using it. All slings now have to be tested, so there are fewer people converting wraps to slings. There are still people doing it outside of the regulations but that's technically illegal in the US. I have a Girasol wrap I'm going to convert. You want something moldable and easy to adjust through the rings (not too grippy), and the more broken in they get the more moldable and adjustable they are.
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They're supposed to be very quick to use. Just put it on, adjust it nice and tight, just enough room to pop baby in, and then you can get the baby in the sling quickly. Not long enough to drag on the ground. Supposedly easy to nurse in. Relatively cool because it's just one layer of fabric over you.
They restrict arm movement on one side. If you don't get them situated quite right they can dig into your neck or upper shoulder. Some people get picky about shoulder style - you can get pleated (narrower, less adjustable, pretty much just put on and go), gathered (wider, adjustable, can take a tiny bit more time to get settled nicely on your shoulder), or hybrid (partly gathered, partly pleated).
I've heard a lot of people say they hated the Maya ring sling. It's the one that has stuck out to me not to try.
Expecting again -- EDD 7/27/20
K'tan active and an Onya outback
Reviews:
The k'tan active fabric is great for keeping as cool as possible (baby wearing is inherently warm) and I thought it was really easy and comfortable once I had some practice with it. I didn't get it until DD was 1.5 months so I'm excited to try it right away this time. I didn't use it once she got bigger and tried to escape
The Onya is great for an older child. I did buy the infant insert and I either didn't adjust it correctly or it's just awkward. With the insert I felt all the weight on my shoulders and DD never seemed perfectly situated in it. It worked really well once she was out of the insert and the weight sits on your hips. DH likes this one too.
Interests:
As you ladies recommended I went to a baby wearing international meeting today! Ring slings are pretty cool and simple but I'm not sure I would choose one over my k'tan, maybe a warmer one for when it gets cold? The ladies presenting love the woven wraps, I'm not sure they are for me though. One good tip for wraps and ring slings is that the rainbow or color fade patterns make it really easy to see what part you need to pull to snug things up. I did get to try a Mei dai and I really liked it, sort of inbetween a wrap and ssc.
https://wrappingrachel.com/tag/pouch-sling/
I've been researching Tulas and Kinderpacks and think I'm leaning more towards a Kinderpack - I love that you can cross the straps in the back because it seems like it would be more supportive. Those that have tried both - which did you prefer and why?
BFP #1: 1/23/2012 DD: Born 9/20/2012
BFP #2: 12/30/2017 DS: Due 9/10/2018
I have friends who greatly preferred Tula.
This said, both options are supportive. Crossed straps or not, both are supportive and great carrier options. It, in my experience, comes down to how the carrier fits to the body of the wearer.
BFP #1: 1/23/2012 DD: Born 9/20/2012
BFP #2: 12/30/2017 DS: Due 9/10/2018
Daughter #2 - Oct 2014
Daughter #3 - Nov 2016
Baby #4 - Sept 2018
Expecting again -- EDD 7/27/20
I have a friend who is going to lend me a Moby, but I've heard great things about the Solly (mostly around The Bump). I'm leaning toward a wrap over a RS until LO is big enough for the Lille. Is there any major difference between the two besides fabric thickness? I'm thinking a Solly would be better because LO is due on the 3rd and our Septembers are pretty warm. I want to go walking with DS and LO while the weather is still nice. Is there one that ties easier or is there some other fundamental difference? The Solly seams marginally more expensive than the Moby (but in my case Moby is free). I tried the Ktan with DS and hated it (and he hated it because I couldn't get him in there comfortably).
DH also had a customer of his recently rave about the Beco Gemini, but I can't see spending money on this when we have a barely used Lille. I'm surprised he even mentioned it because he always tells me I have a baby gear spending problem!
Expecting again -- EDD 7/27/20