May 2018 Moms

Savings Accounts

I was talking to DH about wanting a certain amount saved by the time he is 50. 

Do you have a goal in mind for your savings account?

What steps are you taking to reach your goal? 

If you have student loans, would you pay that off THEN work on savings? Do both simultaneously or work on saving first?


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Re: Savings Accounts

  • It depends on the interest rate for the student loans. If they are high, I would aggressively pay them off first, then save. If they are low, then I’d probably put half in savings and half towards the loans.
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  • I think the way we manage our savings is a little different than most but it has seemed to work for us so here goes.

    Our running goal is to always have at least 6 months worth of expenses in savings, just in case.  We also put 10% per paycheck into DH's 401K and our tax refunds get put into IRA's.  I also only work seasonally but that job pays our house payments for the year so we have a separate savings account that holds all of that and depletes until I go back to work.

    I have student loans that we are paying on plus a car payment and a credit card (for household improvements) that we are all working on paying off.  I budget every month to pay a specific amount to each along with a specific amount to savings.  Then, if there is "extra" after all the bills are paid and payments made, the extra goes towards whichever debt has the highest interest rate in the goal of getting it paid off faster.  Once something is paid off we snowball it and take what we had been paying per month towards the now paid off debt and put it towards the next highest interest rate.  I also did a balance transfer for my credit card and got 0% interest on it in order to get it paid off faster which has helped significantly.  

    I don't know if this helps but it's how we manage and so far it has worked fairly well.  :-)
  • I wish I had a better plan for this. I feel like we are just trying to survive paying for daycare and DH finishing his credential right now. And I don’t even want to get into my student loans. They make me want to cry. I feel like once we have kids out of daycare, we will be able to save more. 

    We go both have a good retirement plan through work, each have an additional TSA, and have a 529 started for DS. 
  • I like listening to the Dave  ramsey podcast cast on my Amazon echo while I cook dinner or clean. He has a lot of really valuable information if you can get over him praising Jesus during each episode. Our school district requires students to take personal finance to graduate and our business teacher uses Dave ramsey's materials minus Jesus. We started working pretty hard on some of the goals last year, but with our wedding this summer we fell back into bad spending habits. I'm hoping to get back on track in the new year. I've read his book I don't remember which one, I borrowed it from the business department. Give him a try you might like it. 
  • Thanks for all the advice. I don’t make any money so it’s a lot of adjusting our spending and setting money aside as DH’s paychecks come in. Once all the kids are in School then I can go back to work and we’ll probably just end up saving all the money I make since DHs paycheck covers all our bills. 

    We don’t have any credit card debt and both our cars are paid off so that’s why I’m asking about saving! Only thing we’ve been slacking on is our student loan debt. I owe about $30k and dh owes about 11k. We just can’t swing $600 a month in student loan payment right now. 


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  • @lincbeesmom is there a way you could get a side hustle of some sort? I work at night and DH works during the day. I also babysit a lot and used to nanny a little girl full time until her mom quit her job. I find that having another kid around makes my days so much easier because the kids just play all day and don’t harass me constantly!
  • @gildah right now dh works too much for me to do something outside of the Home and I’m not one to watch someone else’s kid haha. It’s fine for now though. We just sold our house so our rent/utilities has been cut by around $1000 so I’m just pretending that’s money I’m making. Haha 


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  • We used to save a lot.  From the day we got married, we put everything I earned into savings, as well as a portion of DH's.  With kids and me out of work, we can't save nearly as much as we want to.  But every time he gets a raise, we don't put that into our lifestyle, it goes right into savings.
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  • It honestly sounds like you’re in a good place financially, especially since you don’t have credit card debt or a car payment. Maybe you could look very, very carefully at your spending and cut out what you don’t need. I don’t know about you, but I can trim my budget back a little  by not buying conveniences like take out or coffee. We have a large family, so eating out even once a week is a quarter of our weekly food budget. I also like to make at least one dirt cheap meal a week like lentil soup or something.  Anyway, I would take a deep breath and relax. You guys are doing fine! 
  • @mamaimmoos I work for a financial institution and your plan is what we wish everyone followed. Seriously. Very refreshing to see!

    @lincbeesmom every little bit counts. Even if you set up a pre authorized contribution of say $50/mo it builds. It gains interest. And it's small enough you might not even notice it being "gone" from your regular funds. Do you have TFSAs (tax free savings accounts) in the US? I'm Canadian so forgive my ignorance on your options. But they are great to contribute to savings without getting taxed if you pull money out for whatever you need it for, unlike locking it into a term account/GIC. There's an annual deposit limit but you can add on year after year.
  • DH and I each contribute the max amount of our income to our 401k. Unfortunately (or fortunately?) we are no longer allowed to contribute annually to a Roth IRA, but when we could we contributed the max amount each year. We keep approx 1/5 of our funds in a savings account and the rest is invested. 

    I am interested in the college savings account for the kiddos. Does anyone who has done research want to share their thoughts?
  • I'm also interested in a college savings fund/account if anyone has any info on that.
  • @Ceridwen77 @charlestonchew we set up a 529 account for DS. We make a small monthly contribution that we will increase each year. We deposit any money he gets for Christmas and birthdays into that account. It’s invested in a broad portfolio that gets more and more conservatively invested as he needs age 18. 

    We did ours ours through our insurance person. He knew a lot about them and they beat way to set it up. It was actually better for us to serit up in another state because of something to do with the contribution or withdrawal regulations in CA. 
  • What happens if they don’t go to college? Is that money lost? 

    I mean HIS ASS IS GOING TO COLLEGE but I’m not going to be one of those moms that won’t let him follow his dreams if he wants to be a traveling musician or something.


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  • If he doesn’t go to college, I think you’ll be taxed if you withdraw the money. We’d have a 529 for our kiddos. Our parents all put in $100 or so a year. I think ours is in Iowa
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    Again, Canadian so this might not be the same. For us our government gives cheques per child/household up  up to a certain amount depending on household income. DH and I make decent money so the payout isn't very large but it is nice to have and I think it's awesome for lower income families who really need it. You can do whatever you want with it. Buy diapers, formula, clothes, invest, spend it on yourself too I guess.  
    So when DS was born what we immediately did with ours is have it deposited into my savings but transfered monthly into a government matched RESP (set up by our Financial Advisor) so essentially we are on track to have about $67k in there by the time DS turns 18. If he chooses not to go to college/University we can actually use it for any other child too. 

    Edit: there is a withdrawal fee if it's not used for education but I can't recall what it is.
  • Doesn't gerber have some sort of savings account for baby?
  • Doesn't gerber have some sort of savings account for baby?
    I’ve seen commercials for it but I never really looked into it 


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  • The 529 plan is limited to college expenses only yes.  If however your child doesn't end up attending college there are other options. Your name is on the account its your money so it can't be taken away. There are other ways you can reinvest it. You can change the beneficiary to another child, future grandchild etc or use it for your own education. If you make a non qualifying withdrawal you will pay income tax plus a 10% penalty on your earnings. Coverdell is also an education savings account and in addition to college expenses it can also be used on qualifying purchases during K-12 years. The contribution cap is much lower for the Coverdell and qualifying for it depends on your income. 
  • @lincbeesmom we asked that question. Even though it is in DS’s name, it is transferable to essentially almost any child related to us. I’ll look up the specifics later, but you can withdraw money from the account for other things with minimal to no penalties. 
  • Ceridwen77Ceridwen77 member
    edited December 2017
    Thanks to everyone for the info!! Does the money that goes into a 529 go in tax deferred (like a 401k)? 
  • If anyone is interested, this is who our plan is through and the guide to it: https://www.americanfunds.com/pdf/cagebr-001_529pd.pdf

    Here are the highlights:

    Changing the beneficiary: Changing the Beneficiary An Account Owner may change the Beneficiary of the CollegeAmerica Account at any time. To avoid treatment of the change as a withdrawal, the new Beneficiary must be a Member of the Family of the previous Beneficiary. The Account Owner must complete a Beneficiary change form indicating the relationship of the new Beneficiary to the previous Beneficiary. A Beneficiary change may be denied or limited if it causes one or more Qualified Tuition Program accounts administered by Virginia529 for the same Beneficiary to exceed the $500,000 maximum contribution limit.

    Withdrawals in general
     Only the Account Owner may request withdrawals from an Account. The Account Owner may use the funds in the Account for any purpose and may make withdrawals at any time. Generally, each withdrawal from an Account comprises two pro rata components: (1) a return of principal and (2) earnings. The return of principal portion of any withdrawal, whether Qualified or Non-Qualified, is not taxable. As explained in more detail below, the earnings portion of a withdrawal may be subject to taxation, and possibly penalties, depending upon whether the withdrawal is Qualified or Non-Qualified. The Account Owner or the Beneficiary is responsible for determining whether a withdrawal is Qualified or Non-Qualified and whether a penalty applies.

    Qualified Withdrawals If the Account Owner withdraws funds to pay for Qualified Higher Education Expenses of the Beneficiary, the withdrawal will be Qualified. The earnings on Qualified Withdrawals used to pay Qualified Higher Education Expenses are free from federal income tax and are not subject to a 10% federal tax penalty. The earnings on a withdrawal made as a result of the Beneficiary’s death, disability or receipt of a scholarship (to the extent of the scholarship award) will be subject to federal income tax. However, the earnings will not be subject to the 10% federal tax penalty.

    Qualified Higher Education Expenses
    Qualified Higher Education Expenses are expenses that are incurred by a Beneficiary attending an Eligible Educational Institution. Generally, these expenses include:
    • tuition;
    • all mandatory fees;
    • textbooks, supplies and required equipment;
    • room and board during any academic period during which the Beneficiary is enrolled at least half-time in a degree, certificate or other program that leads to a recognized educational credential awarded by an Eligible Educational Institution;
    • special needs services for a special needs Beneficiary; and
    • computer or peripheral equipment, computer software or internet access and related services used primarily by the Beneficiary during the time enrolled at the Eligible Educational Institution.

    To be considered Qualified Higher Education Expenses, room and board costs may not exceed the following amounts:
    • on-campus: actual invoice amount for room and board; or
    • off-campus: up to the applicable room and board portion of the Cost of Attendance as determined by the Eligible Educational Institution.

    Recontribution of Refunded Amounts
    If a Beneficiary receives a refund of any Qualified Higher Education Expenses from an Eligible Educational Institution, any withdrawals from the Account used to pay such refunded expenses will be considered a Qualified Withdrawal if the refunded amount is recontributed to the Account or another Qualified Tuition Program not later than 60 days after the date of such refund.

    Non-Qualified Withdrawals
    Those withdrawals that are not Qualified Withdrawals are Non-Qualified Withdrawals. Any earnings on Non-Qualified Withdrawals are subject to a 10% federal tax penalty in addition to federal and, if applicable, state income tax. The Account Owner or the Beneficiary is responsible for determining whether a withdrawal is Non-Qualified, making the appropriate filings with the IRS and paying the 10% federal tax penalty on earnings.

    Losses on investments
    If you have an investment loss in your CollegeAmerica Account, you can take the loss as a deduction on your income tax return but only when all amounts from that Account and any Invest529 and CollegeWealth accounts that you maintain for the same Beneficiary have been withdrawn and the total withdrawals are less than the total contributions made. You can claim the loss as a miscellaneous itemized deduction, subject to the 2%-of-adjusted-gross-income limit.
  • I highly recommend opening a 529 plan. It can be used for 2 or 4 year college, trade or vocation school, or grad school.  And can be used for anyone in your family (it is very easy to change the beneficiary).  I started one for my son the year I got pregnant with him and opened one for this lo already. In some states (like mine, NY), your contribution is also a tax deduction.  Also, since it is so long until my kids go to college, I have invested it pretty aggressively and have gotten a huge return so far (obviously it will go up and down over the years, but 18 years of compounding interest is your friend!)
  • In regards to college savings, we decided against the 529 plan and went with a high yield savings account that we deposit into monthly.  The goal is to deposit $1800 a year (I do taxes for a living and $1800 is the amount having a child "saves" you in regards to taxes, I'm also a total tax nerd :D). DS will have over $30,000 in savings when he turns 18 not including interest earned and the plan is to use it for whatever he decides.  If he wants to go to school, we'll pay for it out of that account.  If he wants to buy a house, we'll have a down payment for him...just gives us options with no tax consequences.
  • @mamaimmoos wouldn't you save money with the 529 since it's tax deductible when you make the deposit? 

    We each have retirement plans. Mine is not so big since I only started this career at 33. We have a savings account and I'm going by September we'll have enough to cover the ridiculous cost of a full time nanny in ny for a year. We really need to start savings for each kid though.

    Our only debt are DH's grad school loans and our mortgage.
  • @nanifrog the contributions would be subtracted on my state tax return but because of our tax rate the "tax savings" doesn't cover the risk of the investment options offered.  It basically just comes down to a personal preference and I currently don't trust the investment options :smirk:
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