So I'm a yoga teacher and have an Instagram for promoting my classes and posting pictures of poses. I sometimes do "challenges" in which hundreds of people will do a set of poses over a certain amount of time. Some of the people are chosen to win prizes.
My UO: Sometimes mothers who do the challenges will have their kids in the pictures either getting in their way (LOLLLL look how like CRAZY my life is!!) or they will just straight up post a picture of their kid doing a crappy attempt at the pose. This shiz drives me NUTS and reminds me of something that annoys the crap out of me: When women who are mothers let motherhood be their ONLY identity. Obviously being a mom, especially to little kids, means that takes up a huge part of your day and a big part of your heart. But I don't think it's healthy to let that be your one and only identity. I think it is crappy to your kids and when your kids finally leave the house you're probably going to have a total identity crisis. I think it's healthy for the whole family if the mom has hobbies that are totally separate from the kids or the significant other. So when I see women repeatedly making those kinds of posts every damn day I just want to shake them.
I HATE all the multi-level marketing "businesses." Stop posting about how this "business" is changing your life and how you're making $10,000/month. Also, quit inviting me to your damn parties. They're not fun, and you're clearly just inviting me to take my money. I do not want your lash boost or leggings. Quit asking.
@antoto, I agree that I can't get behind posed phony chaos pics. I find that annoying too.
But as far as the identity stuff, IDK. I didn't marry until 35 and didn't start having kids until 36. I had a full and interesting lifetime getting to know my identity, and it's all helped shape who I am now as a mother.
I work full-time and have 2.5 kids and a great husband and friends and family. My life and my heart is full. But I don't have time or interest in developing other hobbies. This is who I am.
I don't think I'll have an identity crisis when the kids are grown. We all grow and develop through the different stages of life. That was me then. This is me now. I look forward to me later.
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@bettyvonsomethingstein I think having a full time (or part time for that matter) job would qualify to me as the same concept as a hobby. This means a certain amount of your day or week or month or whatever you are committing yourself to becoming better at something, focusing on your development as something other than ONLY a mother. I think that's really healthy. I'm not saying this hobby or job, or whatever it might be needs to be more important than your kids, I'm just saying when someone (anyone not just moms) focuses on just one thing (anything not just kids) and starves all other aspects of their lives it can become a little unhealthy.
@antoto I agree with @bettyvonsomethingstein. We just talked about this in my previous BMB. Several moms work from home part time or full time and/or are also full time/SAH moms, and some are pregnant. When asked what our hobbies are the answers are usually “sleep” and “shower.” This time in my life is very much trying to balance my kid(s) needs and find some time to be a wife. I think as your kids get older and less dependent, you gradually get back your time for yourself. My time for myself is usually 30 minutes at the end of the day when MH does bedtime.
AFM, I don’t understand parents who say things like “I need a break” from their kids in the context of every week/weekend. I know that my perspective is different because with MH’s job, there’s a lot of times that he has to miss out on the little things. For example, my SIL has her mom put her kids to bed every night M-F. Because she needs a break. So I think date night is important but I don’t understand needing to go out drinking and partying every weekend either.
I guess I’m old—I like my 30’s and my little family more than I liked my 20’s and the college/young adult scene.
@bettyvonsomethingstein you summed it up really well. Right now for me, my kids/family are my life. I mean, I do barre and get together with girlfriends but beyond that everything else is about my kids and husband. I gave up my nursing career to be home with them. And I love where I am right now. When they get older I’ll get more me time, and develop hobbies, and possibly go back to work, and I look forward to that. But I’m really good being all consumed by my kids at the moment.
I think I may have not been very clear. If you have any sort of job you commit yourself to or set aside time here and there to do things like barre or other things that better you as a person you aren't who I was talking about in my UO.
Yikes @antoto You wouldn’t like me or my IG. No, but really, my social media is all about my children. I rarely post photos of myself unless it’s with them or DH. I’m a SAHM. I don’t work. I don’t go to the gym. I guess I don’t really have a “hobby.” I am Mom. That is my title. I love it and if that’s all I’m known for in my life, I would be happy with it. Maybe that means I’ve lost my identity, but pre-children I really didn’t feel like “anyone” anyway (not a boo hoo, I just didn’t have a lot going for me). They make me feel like I have a true purpose. I’m the same person though that also loves her children equally to DH. I love my husband dearly, but right now my babies couldn’t care for themselves and he could, I could never say I love him more or even that I put him first. If I said I put him before my kids that would be a big fat lie. If that makes sense. Maybe if I worked outside of the home or had a real “life” before kids I would feel differently on both subjects, but this is just me right now and I love that.
If the mom is genuinely trying to do yoga and the kids are genuinely interfering, then doesn't she fall into the category of setting time aside to do stuff for herself? The UGH part to me is if her kids aren't really interfering and she's just using them as props. That actually does drive me nuts
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@chasingroygbiv I don't think I don't LIKE people like that generally as human beings. It's more that the habit of women forming identities only around the success and happiness of others concerns me.
I went through some personal development workshops and 99% of the other women attending were middle aged women who had kids who were about to or already had moved out of the house. They struggled a lot with self confidence and identity. Because of this their relationships with their kids, their husbands, themselves was a struggle. So that experience is kind of why I feel the way I do about this topic.
Go post a selfie or something. I'm sure your friends like to see stuff about you too!
@stlbuckeye132 I feel the same, I think 50% of my fb is people selling oils, pampered chef, marykay, and now all of a sudden this super expensive Monet shampoo. Ugh.. so annoying.
Then again, I may be a hypocrite because about the only reason I keep a Facebook page is for my photography business. I just hope I don't come across as annoying as all those other things. But mostly I just post images (sneak peaks) from sessions and don't actually try to make a sale.
@triplejplus1 that's totally different in my opinion! You're posting pictures that you've taken, not stock photos comparing side-by-side photos of "amazing results!!" I'm facebook friends with a few photographers, and I personally love seeing their work!
@triplejplus1 that's totally different in my opinion! You're posting pictures that you've taken, not stock photos comparing side-by-side photos of "amazing results!!" I'm facebook friends with a few photographers, and I personally love seeing their work!
Lol those side by sides crack me up. I can't remember what company it was but recently there was one for teeth whitening and in each frame the entire photo just got lighter. It was just editing. I was so tempted to ask why the product lightened your skin as well.
I was thinking about it this week after we talked about the board being slow. I'm totally ready for a FB migration, as long as it was only for the people who've established themselves here regularly. I kinda feel like....I'm not really interested in getting to know more people volume-wise, but it would be nice to get to know the people who chat here regularly a bit better, which means on a different platform. The names/faces we see here regularly haven't changed much, and I don't see them changing any time soon. We know who we are.
FWIW, I have zero problem with the earlier-formed FB group. It just wasn't for me (totally open doors to anyone, and it was established that current events/politics were not up for discussion). Those things are important to me personally, but that doesn't make it bad/wrong. Just not for me.
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@antoto Yea, some of those are so awful and clearly unrealistic. Like many people can push their gut out and look fat(ter), then suck it in for a comparison picture. Also, photoshop does wonders. On anything.
@stlbuckeye132 I feel the same, I think 50% of my fb is people selling oils, pampered chef, marykay, and now all of a sudden this super expensive Monet shampoo. Ugh.. so annoying.
Then again, I may be a hypocrite because about the only reason I keep a Facebook page is for my photography business. I just hope I don't come across as annoying as all those other things. But mostly I just post images (sneak peaks) from sessions and don't actually try to make a sale.
Running a small business is different than being a part of those other MLM deals. I support the heck out of people making a go of it as a small business owner. That's tough stuff but so enviable!
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Ok, so this now seems very trivial compared to the more meaningful mom/identity discussions on here, but my UO: I actually thought that glucola drink wasn't bad... basically just a red Gatorade?
And @antoto, I hear you 100%- I think some people put on the performance of 'crazed mom' to the extent that it limits their actual lives. I'm also intrigued by your Instagram!
@gh515 LOL I didn't think that drink was too bad either. I had to do a 3 hour glucose test while being tested for PCOS. It was fine. It reminded me of Hi-C juice boxes. But also I effing love sugary things so...
@bettyvonsomethingstein I don't think that would be an issue. This BMB is super small and slow (possibly due to the early FB groups forming, though I don't think that's a bad thing) so I agree that we all pretty much recognize each other at this point. I don't feel like we've been getting floods of newbies or anything.
@bettyvonsomethingstein I agree about everything regarding the Facebook group! That was my intention all along, to wait it out until we formed a really tight knit group to migrate to Facebook.
If the mom is genuinely trying to do yoga and the kids are genuinely interfering, then doesn't she fall into the category of setting time aside to do stuff for herself? The UGH part to me is if her kids aren't really interfering and she's just using them as props. That actually does drive me nuts
Somehow I skipped over this.
Yeah totally if it's a funny genuine photo that's one thing. But when it's EVERY photo it feels super staged (and when they themselves aren't even in the photo it's like... what are you doing? Are you entering your kid in this challenge? Wut?). Like my dogs crawl all over me when I do my stuff. I post those once in a blue moon for laughs but if I'm doing an actual challenge I'm not going to post that every single darn day.
If the mom is genuinely trying to do yoga and the kids are genuinely interfering, then doesn't she fall into the category of setting time aside to do stuff for herself? The UGH part to me is if her kids aren't really interfering and she's just using them as props. That actually does drive me nuts
Somehow I skipped over this.
Yeah totally if it's a funny genuine photo that's one thing. But when it's EVERY photo it feels super staged (and when they themselves aren't even in the photo it's like... what are you doing? Are you entering your kid in this challenge? Wut?). Like my dogs crawl all over me when I do my stuff. I post those once in a blue moon for laughs but if I'm doing an actual challenge I'm not going to post that every single darn day.
Staged photos like that are seriously dumb. Kids do funny shit all on their own and will seriously come up with better stuff than any adult can come up with!
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@antoto I don't do the challenges because any time that I am on the floor, my toddler thinks that's an excuse to use me as a jungle gym and both of my dogs think they need to cuddle me. It's great. And why I have a hard time sticking to my yoga routine even though I love it and it makes me feel so good when I do it. Catch-22?? I did post a really cute picture of DS doing downward dog when he was still crawling around a year or so ago... Because it was just really cute. Lol. But it wasn't a challenge.
Also, so we are moving to Facebook now if we are regulars? ((I think I might be a regular but I must confess I'm always over here like "I'm not sure I'm cool enough" anytime this comes up ))
@mdfarmchick I’m ready for FB (if I’m one of the regulars? I think I post fairly regularly?)
my UO- I think it’s super important for a mom to maintain her own identity outside of her kids/husband, even if it means partying occasionally. I found it harder to maintain my own identity as a working mom than I do as a SAHM. When I worked I felt more guilty about taking time for me because that meant I barely had any time with the kids, now I don’t feel guilty because I am with them all the time. I also don’t define myself by my work. I like that I work very very part time now outside the home and still get to have somewhat of a social life outside of work and family.
I can start a new thread to discuss logistics, or we can just forge ahead and work it out as we go. I guess people would PM me with their email if they want to join? And if someone else wants to volunteer to be a co-decider of regularity, that would be nice.
Maybe we can add a level of security as well, if that would make people comfortable. Maybe send a bump shot with today's date and your screen name?
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Just also want to throw out we could move to a private group (as some members don't use FB).
I'm okay with either but will miss those we leave behind.
I would be reluctant to share on a private group here any more than I do now. When I was on The Bump for my first pregnancy, they foffed something up really bad and suddenly people's real names were showing up instead of screen names. I actually had someone contact me using my name, and it was super unsettling. (Yes, I was naive enough to have signed up for TB using my actual name when it asked for it.). They fixed it but never said what happened or what steps they would be taking to ensure it didn't happen again. So I have zero confidence that a private group would remain private.
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I guess I am in the I don't have much of an identity outside my family but I am ok with that group. I quit working in August and have felt so much more fulfilled since. I am all about my kids and DH. I really don't have friends and am ok with that too. Not working has made more time for me to do things at church but those are also kid related. DH I see gone 10-11 hours a day between work and meetings so I am with them all the time. I do get overwhelmed sometimes but this was a choice that I made. I don't know how moms that work full time do it. I wouldn't be able to do that between house work and cooking and balancing everything.
Add me to the full time mom with not much else going for her group. My babies and my husband are my world and I wouldn’t have it any other way. My “me” time is usually the hour long walk I take, but even then I have my daughter with me. But I 100% understand that it can be really detrimental to one’s self to full throw yourself into the “mom” title and push everything else away. It just so happens that all my favorite things are just part of being a mom/wife (cooking, cleaning, event planning, decorating)
In support of the moms who are all about their H and Kids, my mom stayed at home with us until we were all in school but she still had time to pursue things that she loved... it just turned out the things she loved were really conducive to being a mom—cooking, cleaning the house, planning stuff with her kids, putting together photo albums, etc. And when she was finally able to retire last year, my mom suddenly became busier than ever—taking care of family and friends. Turns out my mom just really enjoys caring for people. So she is involved in her church and she does a lot to help out my dad and our other relatives.
@bettyvonsomethingstein will there be a thread regarding the group being ready and how to go about joining? I don’t want to miss it, also, when we FB, do we stop being present on the March BMB group here? Like is it a full move or do we still participate in both? I would love to be able to delete this app but I also don’t want to miss anything big here, especially when we start having babies.
@ShawnnaO, the answer is.........................I don't know Absolutely nothing has been done at this point. THE RULES ARE THERE ARE NO RULES. (ha)
I mentioned earlier I/we can start a thread and discuss logistics, or we can just forge ahead and figure it all out as we go. Our core group isn't all that big, so I personally think just plowing ahead and figuring out what we want to be as we go along would be no big deal. @heatherdubrow volunteered to help.
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@bettyvonsomethingstein I agree with forging ahead and just figuring it out as we go. Also, @becausescience when we moved to Facebook with my previous BMB, some of the people who didn’t have a Facebook made an account with their bump name and still use that just to interact with our group. A few others made a second account with their bump name and eventually switched to their regular account because we got so close.
Re: UO Thursday
My UO: Sometimes mothers who do the challenges will have their kids in the pictures either getting in their way (LOLLLL look how like CRAZY my life is!!) or they will just straight up post a picture of their kid doing a crappy attempt at the pose. This shiz drives me NUTS and reminds me of something that annoys the crap out of me: When women who are mothers let motherhood be their ONLY identity. Obviously being a mom, especially to little kids, means that takes up a huge part of your day and a big part of your heart. But I don't think it's healthy to let that be your one and only identity. I think it is crappy to your kids and when your kids finally leave the house you're probably going to have a total identity crisis. I think it's healthy for the whole family if the mom has hobbies that are totally separate from the kids or the significant other. So when I see women repeatedly making those kinds of posts every damn day I just want to shake them.
But as far as the identity stuff, IDK. I didn't marry until 35 and didn't start having kids until 36. I had a full and interesting lifetime getting to know my identity, and it's all helped shape who I am now as a mother.
I work full-time and have 2.5 kids and a great husband and friends and family. My life and my heart is full. But I don't have time or interest in developing other hobbies. This is who I am.
I don't think I'll have an identity crisis when the kids are grown. We all grow and develop through the different stages of life. That was me then. This is me now. I look forward to me later.
AFM, I don’t understand parents who say things like “I need a break” from their kids in the context of every week/weekend. I know that my perspective is different because with MH’s job, there’s a lot of times that he has to miss out on the little things. For example, my SIL has her mom put her kids to bed every night M-F. Because she needs a break. So I think date night is important but I don’t understand needing to go out drinking and partying every weekend either.
I guess I’m old—I like my 30’s and my little family more than I liked my 20’s and the college/young adult scene.
I went through some personal development workshops and 99% of the other women attending were middle aged women who had kids who were about to or already had moved out of the house. They struggled a lot with self confidence and identity. Because of this their relationships with their kids, their husbands, themselves was a struggle. So that experience is kind of why I feel the way I do about this topic.
Go post a selfie or something. I'm sure your friends like to see stuff about you too!
I was thinking about it this week after we talked about the board being slow. I'm totally ready for a FB migration, as long as it was only for the people who've established themselves here regularly. I kinda feel like....I'm not really interested in getting to know more people volume-wise, but it would be nice to get to know the people who chat here regularly a bit better, which means on a different platform. The names/faces we see here regularly haven't changed much, and I don't see them changing any time soon. We know who we are.
FWIW, I have zero problem with the earlier-formed FB group. It just wasn't for me (totally open doors to anyone, and it was established that current events/politics were not up for discussion). Those things are important to me personally, but that doesn't make it bad/wrong. Just not for me.
@antoto Yea, some of those are so awful and clearly unrealistic. Like many people can push their gut out and look fat(ter), then suck it in for a comparison picture. Also, photoshop does wonders. On anything.
Running a small business is different than being a part of those other MLM deals. I support the heck out of people making a go of it as a small business owner. That's tough stuff but so enviable!
And @antoto, I hear you 100%- I think some people put on the performance of 'crazed mom' to the extent that it limits their actual lives. I'm also intrigued by your Instagram!
Yeah totally if it's a funny genuine photo that's one thing. But when it's EVERY photo it feels super staged (and when they themselves aren't even in the photo it's like... what are you doing? Are you entering your kid in this challenge? Wut?). Like my dogs crawl all over me when I do my stuff. I post those once in a blue moon for laughs but if I'm doing an actual challenge I'm not going to post that every single darn day.
Also, so we are moving to Facebook now if we are regulars? ((I think I might be a regular but I must confess I'm always over here like "I'm not sure I'm cool enough" anytime this comes up ))
my UO- I think it’s super important for a mom to maintain her own identity outside of her kids/husband, even if it means partying occasionally. I found it harder to maintain my own identity as a working mom than I do as a SAHM. When I worked I felt more guilty about taking time for me because that meant I barely had any time with the kids, now I don’t feel guilty because I am with them all the time. I also don’t define myself by my work. I like that I work very very part time now outside the home and still get to have somewhat of a social life outside of work and family.
Wait. That sounds weird.
I can start a new thread to discuss logistics, or we can just forge ahead and work it out as we go. I guess people would PM me with their email if they want to join? And if someone else wants to volunteer to be a co-decider of regularity, that would be nice.
Maybe we can add a level of security as well, if that would make people comfortable. Maybe send a bump shot with today's date and your screen name?
I'm okay with either but will miss those we leave behind.
Dx: PCOS
Married: June 2013
TTC#1: January 2015
BFP #1 8/24/15 | MC 9/3/15 at 6w2d
BFP #2: 12/12/15 | DD born 8/29/16
TTC#2: June 2017
BFP #3: 7/15/17 | DS born 3/20/18
for my first pregnancy, they foffed something up really bad and suddenly people's real names were showing up instead of screen names. I actually had someone contact me using my name, and it was super unsettling. (Yes, I was naive enough to have signed up for TB using my actual name when it asked for it.). They fixed it but never said what happened or what steps they would be taking to ensure it didn't happen again. So I have zero confidence that a private group
would remain private.
I don't know how moms that work full time do it. I wouldn't be able to do that between house work and cooking and balancing everything.
Are we Facebooking now? Is this a thing?
In support of the moms who are all about their H and Kids, my mom stayed at home with us until we were all in school but she still had time to pursue things that she loved... it just turned out the things she loved were really conducive to being a mom—cooking, cleaning the house, planning stuff with her kids, putting together photo albums, etc. And when she was finally able to retire last year, my mom suddenly became busier than ever—taking care of family and friends. Turns out my mom just really enjoys caring for people. So she is involved in her church and she does a lot to help out my dad and our other relatives.
Edit: I’m a regular right? *puppy dog eyes*
I mentioned earlier I/we can start a thread and discuss logistics, or we can just forge ahead and figure it all out as we go. Our core group isn't all that big, so I personally think just plowing ahead and figuring out what we want to be as we go along would be no big deal. @heatherdubrow volunteered to help.