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IF Testing and Treatment 12/4

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Re: IF Testing and Treatment 12/4

  • @BusinessWife I’ve lurked the IF board in the past but honestly the main reason I haven’t posted over there is because I have secondary IF and I worry that I wouldn’t be as welcome/don’t want to upset anyone over there by posting. 
    TTC History
    Me: 35 DH: 34
    Married 07/2012
    DD born 07/2014
    DD2 born 10/2018
    DS born 10/2022

    IF history:
    TTC #2 since January 2016
    June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
    Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
    Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
    Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
    FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
    FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22


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  • @kiwi2628 thank you for that! IF is so hard to deal with, the last thing I would want to do is make somebody feel worse. Maybe I will try to dive in over there later this week. How are you feeling today?
    TTC History
    Me: 35 DH: 34
    Married 07/2012
    DD born 07/2014
    DD2 born 10/2018
    DS born 10/2022

    IF history:
    TTC #2 since January 2016
    June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
    Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
    Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
    Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
    FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
    FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22


  • @skilledsailor I’m not sure if the RE is satisfied - haven’t heard back yet. It’s more that I’m frustrated. Mine is 10 days without supplements, so I guess I’m just not sure why the supplements didn’t extend it more. May just be denial as this seems the last option before IVF. 

    @laurad75 thanks for the timeline info. Guess I need to figure out who to contact to start setting up a schedule. 
  • @BusinessWife thank you! Definitely don’t have intentions of being a TW  :D. I’ll try to join in over there soon!
    @kiwi2628 it is so so frustrating to have to go through all of that expecting one thing only to get another. I would be reacting the same way. I also am the type to need a plan so I understand how that can help you feel better. I think your plan is a good one and I am hoping so hard for you that the new protocol works. It’s so hard to remain optimistic during all of this IF stuff, especially after failed cycles but I am still so optimistic for you. It’s really great that you and YH have come up with a plan that works for you both. 
    TTC History
    Me: 35 DH: 34
    Married 07/2012
    DD born 07/2014
    DD2 born 10/2018
    DS born 10/2022

    IF history:
    TTC #2 since January 2016
    June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
    Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
    Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
    Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
    FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
    FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22


  • @madspunk yesss!! GL tomorrow!!
  • @KariAnn323 Glad you have such a great doctor and that you feel better after the appointment :)

    @madspunk That’s so exciting! Hope all goes well tomorrow 
  • @beachbunnyxo123 I'm so glad they were able to get in to do the sonogram! Bummer about maybe another hysteroscopy before they'll do FET. Sorry I don't have any specific advice on this.

    MC #1: D&C Oct 23, 2015 (7.5 weeks)
    MC #2: July 1, 2016 (5.5 weeks)
    MC #3: October 17, 2016 (CP)
    RE #1: RPL testing November 2016-January 2017
    MC #4: Feb. 28, 2017 (CP)
    RE #2: Additional RPL testing March-November 2017
    MC #5: January 2019 (6.5 weeks)

    RE #3: More testing 2023. 
    Egg Retrieval Sept/Oct 2023, 2 good embryos after PGT-A testing.
    Surgery for endometriosis January 2024
    Lupron Depo March 2024.  Benched 3 months.  Hopefully FET after that.

    #BitterHagPartyOf1

  • @madspunk enjoy the excitement and good news today; save the worry for later. GL tomorrow!

    @beachbunnyxo123 so glad they were able to do the saline! and yay for no issues! (i'm no help on the FET question)  I'm hoping the other ladies, or maybe a lurker out there, has some feedback. 

    TTC#1 10/2016
    TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each. 
    BFP finally in 12/2018

    TTC#2 06/2021
    planning FET


    "Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks,
    some doors are open, some roads are blocked" 

  • @beachbunnyxo123 I'm so happy that they were able to get through the saline sono after all the issues you've had! While I know you're going to need to think about the additional hysteroscopy, especially because of the cost, I sort of see it like my choice to do PGS testing or acupuncture. I want the best chance possible that my FET will work, despite the enormous financial hit of the additional testing and treatments. If the doctors feel like trauma to your cervix (and thus the spotting) could have an negative impact on the success of the FET, then perhaps it would be worthwhile to do the hysteroscopy. Aside from our meds, we are all OOP as well, so I feel your pain with the cost. I'm sorry you even have to make this additional decision in the mountain of decisions we already have to make. I hope your doctor is also able to give you additional information during your discussion.
    Me: 35 DH: 28
    TTC since June 2016

    Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016

    AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
    Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
    October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
    29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
    Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
    12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
    2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
    ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
    Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
    Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
    12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
    Our journey has come to an end.
    ~*~*~Nevertheless, she persisted~*~*~
  • Thanks all!!!  <3<3

    @AlohaKumu that is a really good point. I’ve also been doing acupuncture and am going to be doing PGS testing so what’s an extra $3k in the scheme of it all anyway if it means it’s gonna help. 
  • @beachbunnyxo123 I think @alohakumu gave great advice

    However I would also ask do you need to decide now already? Couldn’t you wait and see how many embryos you get first? And how you get on after that ER?
    Then again, if there’s something up with your cervix it might be better to know before you’re KU - I think with good embies you can maybe get past spotting, but it would be awful if it caused a problem later in the PG too...

    In general if you can find the money and have the time, anything you can do to remove potential problems should reduce the risk of failure or loss later... which as well as causing extra monetary cost is more than that a huge emotional cost...
    Me 43 DH 45
    Married 12/2016
    TTC #1 since 04/2015
    AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
    7 retrievals, 3 transfers
    Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
    Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
    Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
    Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
    Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
    Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
    Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
    Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
    Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
    Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
    Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
    Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
    Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality 

    Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return

  • @emmasemm  My clinic had us decide prior to the start of cycle.  No major decisions while hepped up on all the hormones!!!  If we coukd have decided after retrieval or after fertilization or on day 5 prior to freeze, that would have taken so much pressure off.  But I know in our case we had to decide up front.
  • @beachbunnyxo123 That's great she was able to get the catheter in and that everything looks good! What a relief after what you've been through! I know nothing about spotting and FET, but I hope your RE was able to give you more information about the risks of this and how helpful an additional hysteroscopy may be.
  • We were looking into starting IVF in January, but they had an opening now and the timing fit, so, well, I start BC tonight. Final testing in December, then tentatively start stims 12/30.

    While I hate that we’re at this point with no real answers as to why, I honestly feel a bit relieved. At least we’re moving forward quickly? I’m know I’ll have a million questions. Any advice is, as always, appreciated.  

    @beachbunnyxo123 glad it went well today! I hope the doctor gives you information that makes the decision easier. 
  • @emmasemm My clinic also had us decide before we started anything to
    PGS test I think The total was $2700 for up to 10 embryos and any after that $200 or $225 I can’t remember.

    @beachbunnyxo123 Glad your test went well! 
  • @beachbunnyxo123 I’m so glad your test went well!!

    Guys, I just got my lab results back. Last December when my midwife did my AMH it was 4.29. Now it is 1.80. How could it drop that much in a year????
    TTC History
    Me: 35 DH: 34
    Married 07/2012
    DD born 07/2014
    DD2 born 10/2018
    DS born 10/2022

    IF history:
    TTC #2 since January 2016
    June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
    Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
    Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
    Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
    FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
    FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22


  • @shortstack930 Did you talk to anyone or did you just see your results online?   Could they re-check that number?  I'm not sure at what rate it should decrease so I'm no help there, but it seems that you're still currently in the "normal" range (at least based on what I just found online).  I hope you can get some more information
  • @50Wife I checked in the patient portal so I haven’t spoken to my RE yet. It’s definitely still in the normal range for my age but just seems crazy that it would drop that much, especially since I’ve made so many ISWTE changes. I wonder if they’ll be willing to repeat it. 
    TTC History
    Me: 35 DH: 34
    Married 07/2012
    DD born 07/2014
    DD2 born 10/2018
    DS born 10/2022

    IF history:
    TTC #2 since January 2016
    June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
    Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
    Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
    Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
    FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
    FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22


  • @shortstack930 No idea but im curious to hear what they say! My AMH was 4.17 a
    month ago and I’m 37, thought that is a lil high for my age and i do not have PCOS. It’s def still in normal range so try not to stress too much. Let us know what they say bc I would say that’s pretty drastic for 1 year but I am no expert.

    @AlohaKumu HOW EXCITING!!  FX FOR YOU DOLL! 
  • @purplg8r Sorry to hear you had a rough week :/ I hope you have a nice relaxing weekend! 
  • @madspunk Hope your IUI went well! 

    @beachbunnyxo123 *hugs* Glad the doctor was able to perform this procedure. Sorry they're suggesting another OOP one. 

    @halfanewt That's exciting! Moving forward is such a good feeling.

    @shortstack930 When will you be able to speak with your RE about the AMH results? 

    @purplg8r The idea was that if I ovulate on my own then clomid would help me release 2-3 eggs, hopefully at least one from each side giving me better odds that I'd drop an egg from the open side each month. However, since I had so many side effects I was told to stop it after four doses and at my US they only found one follie (good side at least). Sorry you've had a rough week. Doing anything this weekend as a "pick me up"?
  • @madspunk Fx for you!
    @purplg8r So sorry you're having a rough week.
  • @madspunk so glad the IUI went well!!

    @SkilledSailor I’m going to see my RE on Tuesday for my saline sono so I’ll just talk to her then   :/
    TTC History
    Me: 35 DH: 34
    Married 07/2012
    DD born 07/2014
    DD2 born 10/2018
    DS born 10/2022

    IF history:
    TTC #2 since January 2016
    June-Aug 2017: 3 IUIs w/Clomid = BFN
    Sept 2017: Dx w/Endometriosis
    Oct 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Nov 2017: IUI w/Letrozole = BFN
    Dec 2017: pre-IVF testing
    Jan-Feb 2018: IVF--17 eggs retrieved, 13 fertilized, 9 frozen and 1 transferred on 2/10 = BFP on 2/19!!! EDD 10/29/2018
    FET Oct 2021: BFP on 10/31! MC at 5 weeks
    FET Feb 2022: BFP on 2/15! EDD 10/29/22


  • edited December 2017
    @madspunk.  Yay!!!!  Congrats on the iui!!!

    @shortstack930  ughh... hopefully the saline sono will be nbd.  When my current doc did it I literally "almost" didn't even feel it.  Not uncomfortable really at all.  Hopefully you will have an easy experience with that. ;)

    *autocorrect 
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