May 2018 Moms

MIL/ people at the birth SEVERE ANXIETY

FTM and I want it to be just me and my partner (and medical staff) at the birth. I'm only 10weeks so we have a while to go but we were talking about it today and he is adamant that his Mum will be there. Apart from the fact I don't want anyone else including my own Mum seeing me give birth and all the details that come with that. We're having twins so even though I have my heart set on a natural birth we have to be realistic and accept that a c-section is highly likely.
Now, If this was the case I might not mind both mums being in the hospital with a c section because I know only 1person is allowed in the theatre so we'd still get a small moment together before facing the world. But if I have to be put under GA (which I have huge anxiety about) it'll likely take me a couple hours to come around and it breaks my heart thinking that I will be the last to hold my own babies!!
He says he doesn't want to be on his own and go through it on his own if I have to be put under GA, which I do understand, but I feel my needs are more important here?! I have not stopped crying at the thought of she will hold them before me- I love his Mum but this would not be ok and I'm worried I will resent everyone!
Am I being over the top?
Do I just let whatever happen and deal with It?
Or if not, How can I help him understand my needs for my physical privacy and mental well-being?

Note: Neither of our parents know we're expecting yet so cannot have this conversation directly at the moment. However, when the big day comes - if he asks her to come I'm pretty sure she will regardless of what I have asked.

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  • PearlvirusPearlvirus member
    edited October 2017
    Ok couple random thoughts all over the place:
    1) I felt the same way going into my first labor about not wanting anyone there. And I felt like it was going to be really important to know my DR. However, when I was actually in labor I kinda entered a different brain space, sort of like a trance, and it turns out I didn’t care or notice who was there at all. I turned totally internal. 
    2) A friend of mine had twins last year and her birth was a very long induction. It would not have been practical for anyone to be there the whole time. And she did not tell anyone about labor until the babies were out! She did achieve vaginal though - don’t lose hope on that account!
    3) If your husband needs support, maybe you could hire a doula? They statistically reduce your chances of c-section. Also it is a person who is in between a friend and medical person. 
    4) Maybe not being the first to hold your babies is something you need to work through the grief on? I mean, if you are under it’s not going to be you regardless, so maybe MIL is better than a random nurse or just laying in a basket alone?
    5) Could MIL be on call to come quick but not actually be in the building?
    Overall - yes your feelings are absolutely valid and should be accounted for. But your husbands feelings are too and there is so much that is not in your control, you have to make peace with the fact that things are going to be whatever they are and you won’t always get to pick.
  • My husband and I had this discussion when I was pregnant with our twins. We agreed only him and my mother would be in the room with me. We also discussed those who would wait at the hospital. My in laws are divorced, one is remarried now and the other is in a serious relationship. When DH's sisters had their children, their parents waited at the hospital. I did not want that. It would be my first birth and with twins, the complications are much higher. I did not want the added pressure of feeling everyone was literally waiting on them in the waiting room. We discussed it with the in laws and they understood. The agreement was we would tell them when I went into labor. They live 2 hours away so they were welcome to wait at our home if they wanted to be closer.
    When the time came, I was 35w5d and had preeclampsia. Twin A was not in a good position as she was being squished down by Twin B and we feared she'd go into distress quickly during vaginal labor. We immediately decided to have a planned c section.
    We told our families the plan and the general time. FIL asked if they could come to the hospital because it was planned and I felt that a lot of pressure was off of me so we allowed the 3 sets of parents to come.
    When the twins were born, I got to see DD for 5 seconds and DS for less than that because he wasn't breathing properly. I was terrified. I then had to be on a magnesium drip in bed and was not allowed to see my children. DH stayed with our twins and when things settled, he came to ask if he could bring the parents into the NICU to see their grandkids. I agreed it was the right thing to do so everyone got to see my children before me and it sucked. I sat in bed and cried while my great nurse comforted me. It was definitely hard. And I will always remember I didn't get to see them or sit by them first. Since they were so little, no one was allowed to hold them at that point, so I guess that was my silver lining. 

    So I get where you're coming from. The most important thing is for you and DH to be on the same page. I don't think you're being too over the top. This is your first child, you should get to experience the birth the way you want to, within reason. Yes, your husband should be able to voice his opinion and have a discussion about it, but you're the one who will be exposed, will be in a lot pain, will need to be focused. Perhaps if he still would like her in there, you can compromise. She can be in the room until you start to push on until you 8 cm dilated or some aspect that is a concrete time. 
    Maybe your mil won't want to be in the room with you? 
  • A doula would maybe be an option so he has someone there .
      I was induced at 35 weeks for some medical issues and it lasted over 24 hrs . We had people in and out to visit during the induction which I was fine with as it took so long.  Than full blown labor Came on quick and sudden . My mom happened to be in the room and the nurse kicked her out right away saying since it was a High risk delivery only husband allowed in room. 
       Talk to husband but talk with the nurses too. They are there for you and if you say only husband in room or no one but husband holds the baby they will make it work even if your husband says something else (they are good at making up rules)
       My husband is awful with medical stuff . My mom is great with medical stuff. If baby needed NICU my mom was going to go be with baby with my husband to help translate medical
    jargon and my dad and mil where going to come be with me (nurses knew this plan and said they would make it happen)
  • In addition to what’s been said above, it sounds like some birth classes might help your DH feel more comfortable with the process and what to expect... and therefore more sensitive to YOUR feelings and wants for the labor and delivery. 
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  • I agree with a lot of the people that maybe having some further conversations with DH and once you tell parents having a talk with them. You can also discuss all of this closer to your due date with your doctor. With my DS the nurses sort of took the heat and let me call the shots but were the ones telling people when they could or couldn't come in. We had it just DH and me in the room. 
    Like @suchaglencoco my kiddo had to go straight to the NICU. I got to hold him for about five seconds until they had the cord cut and then actually no one was allowed to hold him. I didn't get to hold him again for four days. And they wouldn't let anyone but DH into the NICU with him until I got to go in and see him. We were only allowed to have two adults at a time so grandmas couldn't go in together even. But really when that day comes I hope everyone just accepts that the doctors nurses and you and DH are trying to make the best choices for your little ones. It will be such a happy and emotional day whether you have complications or everything goes text book delivery. It will be amazing!! And I agree with @MLD912 birthing class will help too. Don't be afraid to ask any and all questions, take a tour if they don't offer it at the class. Just try and make yourselves as comfortable in the hospital so it eases some of the stress.
  • I completely understand where you are coming from. I only wanted DH and the medical staff with me. When it got time to push, we called our families and let them know so that they could come meet the baby once he arrived. Our hospital has a “no visitor” rule for the first hour after the baby is born. We let our families come in after that. 

    I will say that I didn’t want anyone there at all in the waiting room initially, but my friend gave birth the year before and the baby was in distress and had to go in the NICU. Her husband went with the baby and she was alone and scared and wished she had someone there with her to hold her hand. Once I thought about that, we agreed people in the waiting room was fine, but no one in the room during delivery. 

    The good news is that you guys are talking about it and have a lot of time to figure it out. I think it’s good you’re starting to talk about it and the different scenarios that could occur.  
  • As someone who suffers from extreme anxiety too I hear you sister!  

    As as others have suggested, his  Morher can be in the waiting room for support.  And a doula could be a viable option for him in need of a support person.

    But ultimately this needs to be your decision.  Being pregnant involves such a great temporary loss of ones autonomy.   Suddenly people have a say in the decisions we make regarding our own bodies.   Not to mention there is another actual person sharing our body effecting every decision we make.  This is not easy!  That’s why it’s so important that you get to make these kinds of decisions on your own- to maintain some semblance of autonomy.  Your husband might not understand but he doesn’t have to.  He just needs to drop this right now.  Your husband isn’t preparing for what you are, nor is he already dealing with what you are dealing with.  This isn’t his choice, and when he realizes this I suspect you will feel empowered and less anxious. 

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  • Your feelings are very understandable. After all, you are the one who will be in labor and giving birth. It’s your decision, but it’s important to have a discussion with your husband so he understands where you’re coming from. 

    I am very private and have already said I will only have my husband at the hospital with me. We’ll notify family when I’m in labor, when the baby is born and when we’re ready to have people visit. My MIL has already asked if she could be in the delivery room. If I wanted anyone else in that room, it would be my mom (plus it’s her first grandchild) not MIL. I had to lay down the law early about this, in the nicest way possible. 
  • STM here. I understand your SO's feelings however he's not the one that will be pushing a watermelon out of their most sensitive region. He doesn't get the say and the doctors at the hospital can be made aware of your wishes.

    When I was pregnant with my son, my SO's family was way too enmeshed. And i am estranged from my own mother, she's insane and I had a legitimate fear that she would show up. We weren't going to tell anyone when we were called in to be induced however we had a dog that needed to be taken care of, so didn't have a choice there. Anyways we registered as private. If you do that, the medical staff can not even let anyone know you are there or where you are. It was a great decision, I ended up in labor for 36hours and had to have a C/section. After a C/S you have to be in recovery for a few hours. Baby and SO is allowed in there but no one else. They are pretty strict about that. 

    I am having a scheduled c/s this time, my MIL will be at my house with my son until we are ready for anyone else, my son will be the first after mom and dad to meet the baby. I don't think I will have to register as private this time.
  • I completely agree with you. He will not be alone, there will be tons of nurses, physicians, staff etc around. I would probably be okay with family being there but it would be set in stone that no one could hold babies (except dad) until after you get to hold them. I would sit down and explain your feelings to him to help him come around. You wait a long time to see those babies, you should be first!
  • I would suggest that you share your anxiety about this with your doctor and also find out what he hospital policy is on who can be in the room and who can be with babies if c-section. 
    I went through something similar with DH when DD was born. He really felt like he needed a support person and asked about his mom. I did not want my MIL or my mom in the room so we decided to have husbands sister there to be support for both of us. It actually worked out really great because she could stand up to the doctors and nurses to get me what I needed and DH could focus just on me. This time I think we will hire a dula because she now has a newborn. I guess what I'm saying is that it might even good for you both to have a support person but not his mom. 
    Regarding other people holding your babies, you are 100% in your rights to feel the way you do. We didn't let anyone besides DH and me hold DD for the first 24 hours and we actually had SIL leave after delivery and didn't let anyone in for 2 hours so we could have some time just us. Maybe you could make a plan about what's happens once you recovered (if you have to have a C-section) that protects your time with your DH and babies? Might make you feel like you have more control over the situation. 
  • ladystinsonladystinson member
    edited October 2017
    I've agreed that my MIL is welcome to visit during labor. However, when push (literally...) comes to shove and it's time for delivery if you didn't help put the baby there and you're not my medical team then it's time to GTFO.

    Stand your ground. I was a pushover with my first, I didn't have to worry about my MIL being there, but I literally wasn't even cleaned up all the way before she came parading into my room with 4 other people.

    I'm lucky this time and I'm remarried to a man who supports my decision (as I am the one who will be having the child removed from me one way or another) and a MIL who may give me a little crap for it but will respect it when the time comes. 

    Any hard feelings from you standing your ground on the decision will have one of two outcomes.
    1.) MIL will see her grandchildren's faces and it will melt away
    2.) Hard feelings were going to happen at some point that will not be likely to fade, and rest assured it is better to know sooner than later!

    ETA: when my former monster in law barged in he announced herself with a "geez, we could hear you all the way in the waiting room" I'd still like to throat punch the wench.....

    ETA again: I just noticed the fear that your MIL would hold the babies before you if you end up under GA. Check with your hospital on this, but I don't believe many (if any) would allow visitors before mom is out of recovery. And if they would, you should be able to have a ban on it in place for your case. Most hospitals are getting much better about things like this.
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  • Not much else to add, but like PP suggested, it's worth checking the policy on visitors. With our first, visitors weren't allowed until I was moved out of recovery.
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  • It seems like you have gotten a lot of good advice. The only thing I would add is making sure this discussion happens (or at least starts/continues) with DH before you are going to tell your MiL that you are pregnant. If your DH is like mine...sometimes I think we’re still in the middle of discussing something or making a decision and he thinks the conversation we had was it. I would just hate to see him tell his mom she can be there and then you have to try to back-track.
  • I don't think you're being ridiculous at all. I had no idea that my MIL, SIL with 4 kids, and DH's granny would come to the hospital at 8 am (I got induced at 6am). I thought they were coming to say hi and wish me good luck and would come back after DD was born. They stayed THE WHOLE TIME! They would not leave the room to go to the waiting room when the pitocin was kicking in, so when I was given the opportunity for an epidural, I snatched the chance because I knew I'd be going to a different room and only 1 person was allowed there. I plan on having a pre-talk with everyone this time now that I know what they like to do when a family member is having a baby. There will probably be some hurt feelings, but in the end, my comfort level is more important than them being there for the birth.
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  • I haven't read through everyone's responses but I'm sure most will agree that you get to make the decision. I opted to have my mom there for the birth but my MIL was not even in the hospital until after the baby was born. She is too opinionated and I wanted to do what I needed without arguing with someone else about it. My husband was totally fine with it but my MIL had her feelings hurt I think. You don't need more people's opinions in the room for any decisions that may need to be made and I'm with you 100% on getting to hold your babies before others do (besides DH of course). 
  • suchaglencocosuchaglencoco member
    edited October 2017
    @sandbar517, that's a good point! I forgot that part that if I had tried natural I'd still be in an OR just in case.
  • I think everyone has covered it but I just want to say stick to your guns! My in-laws, who are so sweet, wanted to come when DS was born. They live out of town so they stay with us when they come. I wanted them to wait to come but I'm non confrontational so I said they could come right away. They ended up coming the day I was discharged from the hospital. I got home and immediately started cleaning/straightening up my house. I wish I had stuck to my "wait a week" original idea. I WILL be doing that this time!

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  • @lovesclimbing I don't know you, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna like you lol
    Aww, thank you! <3 I didn't have to use that on my H, lol. I didn't even want my own mother there, and I love both her and my MIL!
  • My vagina, my rules. If I say no mum, there shall be no mum. Nurses tend to pick up on what you want. When I had DS, I was ready for my MIL to leave the room, and the nurse had just told me that she was going to tell them it was getting serious and it was time to head to the waiting area. 
    I’d hope you’d DH would understand. If not, tell them what the above ladies have said. Good luck!
  • For everyone, when it comes down to it, you are the patient and can give the nurses directions on who can be there or not and they will make sure that your wishes are followed (within the limitations of hospital policy).
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  • Someone above said your husband wouldn’t be alone because there will be tons of nurses, etc around. For full transparency for FTMs, this was not my experience. My hospital was extremely busy the night I went into labor and since I was only 4cm and a FTM they put me in a back room. I was just there with my husband and doula the whole time until I was 10cm and station 2. This was a very quick progression but honestly if I was alone with DH we probably wouldn’t have called a nurse (doula did) because we didn’t know anything about labor progression. So I do think it’s a good idea to have an extra support person there. Whether it be a friend, family member, or doula. This can be a stressful experience for a first time Dad if he’s all alone. 
  • Someone above said your husband wouldn’t be alone because there will be tons of nurses, etc around. For full transparency for FTMs, this was not my experience. My hospital was extremely busy the night I went into labor and since I was only 4cm and a FTM they put me in a back room. I was just there with my husband and doula the whole time until I was 10cm and station 2. This was a very quick progression but honestly if I was alone with DH we probably wouldn’t have called a nurse (doula did) because we didn’t know anything about labor progression. So I do think it’s a good idea to have an extra support person there. Whether it be a friend, family member, or doula. This can be a stressful experience for a first time Dad if he’s all alone. 
    Another thought (not necessarily relevant to OP). I don't know anything about the US system, but in the UK you can affect this by your choices. If you have an epidural you will be constantly monitored. Also if you chose to be in a birthing pool, the midwife has to be there the whole time. I don't know the reason for these rules, but just thought they might be something for people to consider, if the thought of being left by staff during labour is worrying!
  • Someone above said your husband wouldn’t be alone because there will be tons of nurses, etc around. For full transparency for FTMs, this was not my experience. My hospital was extremely busy the night I went into labor and since I was only 4cm and a FTM they put me in a back room. I was just there with my husband and doula the whole time until I was 10cm and station 2. This was a very quick progression but honestly if I was alone with DH we probably wouldn’t have called a nurse (doula did) because we didn’t know anything about labor progression. So I do think it’s a good idea to have an extra support person there. Whether it be a friend, family member, or doula. This can be a stressful experience for a first time Dad if he’s all alone. 
    Another thought (not necessarily relevant to OP). I don't know anything about the US system, but in the UK you can affect this by your choices. If you have an epidural you will be constantly monitored. Also if you chose to be in a birthing pool, the midwife has to be there the whole time. I don't know the reason for these rules, but just thought they might be something for people to consider, if the thought of being left by staff during labour is worrying!
    That’s probably very true for the epidural. I was in a jacuzzi tub and no one checked on me. I sure fooled those doctors & nurses!
  • I do not want my MIL or my mom in the room when I'm actually delivering. If my husband wanted his mom there and I were in a higher risk situation of delivering twins, I would just have to say "I want our mothers to present and a part of everything but when things get real and I start to crown, I will probably want the room cleared of anyone but you and the professionals because we're having twins and I need to listen to my body, stay focused, and stay calm. And that's more important than your need to stay calm and supported, not because my needs are more important, but because I have the responsibility of getting these babies out safely."

    I would certainly compromise by having the moms around for early labor and soon after birth. My mom will definitely be around once I get an epidural and, though I really can't stand my MIL, I wouldn't mind if she was in the room too, but everyone is out for active labor!

    I will say that my mom was there for the birth of my sister in law's baby. Not for the pushing, but everything else. And she was instrumental in getting my brother to feel confident enough to actually pick up his own son. My brother was suddenly terrified of hurting him once he was out and wouldn't touch him! He needed his mom for that support and encouragement.

    About the C Section. I totally understand and you are not at all overreacting. The only thing I can offer is this piece of perspective that I've considered myself, just in case I have to deal with it too:

    Someone has to hold those babies and welcome them into the world. It can be a nurse, or it can be a cold sterile bassinet. But I'd rather it be family. Don't get me wrong, it would pain me just as much if it were me. But I would just have to teach myself to look at it with joy instead of the resentment that naturally comes from that situation. I think it would be pretty cool to tell them when they are older, especially once you don't have your mom and your MIL in your life anymore, to be able to say "your grandmas were the first people to hold you when you came into the world. They loved you and kept you safe and warm until I could."



  • @P.S. Goulet I really like the way you said that!
    OP I would encourage you to talk to someone about your anxiety. I think it’s  totally normal to be worried, but crying about the thought of something happening is probably not good for you! You can absolutely request that no one holds your babies before you! That being said, I was more than happy to have my MIL hold my first baby right after she was born. I was shaking profusely and had to have some lacerations repaired, so they couldn’t let me hold her. I can assure you that she and I are quite well bonded!

  • I do not want my MIL or my mom in the room when I'm actually delivering. If my husband wanted his mom there and I were in a higher risk situation of delivering twins, I would just have to say "I want our mothers to present and a part of everything but when things get real and I start to crown, I will probably want the room cleared of anyone but you and the professionals because we're having twins and I need to listen to my body, stay focused, and stay calm. And that's more important than your need to stay calm and supported, not because my needs are more important, but because I have the responsibility of getting these babies out safely”
    Nicely said, but I’d argue the woman’s needs are more important during labor. I love the partnership approach in what you said, but in this situation, we’re not equals! 
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