Flipping baby

foxaírt · October 2017

So at my last appointment (34 Weeks)
the midwife checked baby's position. Which presented breech and was confirmed via ultrasound. With the head tucked right up between my bottom ribs at my diaphragm (no wonder I can't breath well when I sit) bum is hanging out around my bellybutton to the left in a big lump and limbs seem to be all bundled on my right side . I get kicked a lot in my right hip those are definitely feet.
At this point she advised it isn't something to worry about as we aren't at term and there's time but it's something to keep an eye on . I'm booked for a formal Ultrasound with an OB at my next appointment (which have now switched to fortnightly) where if baby is still breech they will discuss 'options'

Any other mums to be tasked with flipping a breech baby or with previous experience on this?
I thought we could discuss here things that can assist and encourage optimal birth position and things to avoid if you have successfully flipped a baby that earlier presented breech . Also habits and postures we can all do to best prep. As most of us would be getting very close to term now
Even if it is to feel proactive about it .

Karrotelle · October 2017

As of last Monday, both my twins are breech.

I am actively trying to flip them but Baby A’s position is of more importance than Baby B’s, for us. I have been doing some of the techniques from spinningbabies.com. I used their techniques previously to flip Baby A to head down from breech. She did flip, but she flipped back on us. So we are at it again because we are close to the home stretch.

I am also seeing a chiropractor who performs the Webster technique. I want to also try moxibustion & acupuncture. Anything is worth a try if it means no csection again! (My first was a csection because she was breech. My second was a VBAC because we flipped him head down at 34 weeks and he came at 36.)

DungeonTrollMel · October 2017

I have a transverse baby and I am trying to actively work on getting him to flip prior to 37 weeks when they do ECV since that's only successful about 20% of the time.

I an seeing a prenatal chiropractor who specializes in the Webster method to help him flip. I would recommend checking out spinningbabies.com she has quite a bit of useful information on helping breech babies. I'm doing the forward inversion from there, handstands in my pool and lots of time on my birthing ball in addition to the stretches from my chiro

hopefully moves for you

Airynn Chica · October 2017

A friend of mine did a something with a chiropractor for her last child and it worked for her to flip the child.

foxaírt · October 2017

Oh my @Karrotelle your Bubbas seem to just want to be head up .
Good to know you have got her to flip before
I'll definitely check out that site.
I'm very concise of the fact that I'm a contortionist and pole dancer/instructor. I teach stretch and contortions as well as participate and also handstands and have been doing inversions all along including in yoga . So I'm suddenly concious of the space I'm creating or restricting wondering if they may of been turned and flipped back because of the activities I do

I'll also look into chiropractor. I have never been before

cwalker042 · October 2017

My son was breech up until a few days before he was born. He flipped himself.

foxaírt · October 2017

Update so far. I've been concious of how I sit and refrained from reclining at all . Which is hard as I've been on my feet a lot and how get a bit of pressure in my back . I also get sore shoulders from a crappy mattress and laying on my side all night . I'm looking forward to spending more time in our new bed down at our house as we start transitioning with the move . We won't move full time till after baby arrives as I am happy with midwives here .
Baby has been moving a lot the last two days and looks to now be sideways . So I am hoping they have decided to turn and will commit to a head down position .i am also cautious of any inverting till Thursdays ultrasound and if they have flipped I'll be finished with contortion till after the birth .

How is everything going for you @DungeonTrollMel any progress in turning the little one ? How much longer do you have ?

@Karrotelle is baby A behaving?

DungeonTrollMel · October 2017

After 4 sessions with my chiro within 9 days, many hours on my birth ball and lots of forward leaning inversions, he was head down at my scan last week. He appears to be staying there and my ligaments are staying much looser.

foxaírt · October 2017

@DungeonTrollMel
Yay! Good job mama and Lil one
Hope he stays put for you

foxaírt · October 2017

And baby is still breech

mymulligan · October 2017

Sorry @foxairt

foxaírt · October 2017

Will be getting a call to book with OB for a foal diognostic ultrasound and then they will discuss "options"
In the mean time I'm organising a alignment prenatal yoga session and jumping on the optimal birth position exercises.
Trying not to stress but failing miserably
Still have time I suppose is all I can think about

Karrotelle · October 2017

@foxaírt I don’t think she has cooperated.

I am pretty sure I feel her head near my rib cage but it could be her brother’s head and her butt lol It’s hard to tell with them both in there. I don’t have another ultrasound until the 23rd but I highly doubt I’m making it past this weekend, so we will be in for a surprise when we get to the hospital and they do an emergency ultrasound to determine position.

foxaírt · October 2017

@Karrotelle
Twins seems like a whole other adventure
I can't even comprehend

foxaírt · October 2017

Update.
Growth and wellbeing scan today
And bub is still breech.
Also stubborn and lazy and not moving a lot . They made me go have lunch to get them to perk up and move as a leg was obstructing some measurements . They did move. A little so the measurements could get taken .
Generally measuring in 22nd centile and an estimated 2.7kg

Everything seemed fine baby is just being lazy and not turning ....

Abby7 · October 2017

@foxairt I was hoping that you were posting that he flipped. Bleh, sorry. Is one of the "options" where they try to do a version externally in the doctor's office? I have read that it works about half the time so it would be worth a try.

foxaírt · October 2017

@Abby7
Wish it was the the case.
I am imagining it will be . Will find out today.
The scan showed normal fluid. And bub isn't big actually a little small and they are still out of the pelvis so baby turning itself is still possible I imagine that means it's also possible for them to try and turn externally.
So not quite on the chopping block yet

OB informed us the only clinically backed alternative method proven to have results in turning breech babied is moxibustion . And was all she could suggest we try
So I'm also going to try getting my toes smoked. This amuses me as I wasn't expecting of all the things that to be medically backed
She also said bub can still turn so now it's just a wait and see what we get delt

Abby7 · October 2017

@foxairt I'm really glad there's still a good change for him to turn on his own. Hopefully since he is still small and hasn't dropped he's just taking his sweet time. (btw not sure why I'm assuming you're carrying a boy, sorry if that's not the case)

foxaírt · October 2017

@Abby7
Ha ha don't know what we are having . No worries it's sometimes easier to just pick a pronoun

NYTino24 · October 2017

foxaírt said:

@Abby7
Wish it was the the case.
I am imagining it will be . Will find out today.
The scan showed normal fluid. And bub isn't big actually a little small and they are still out of the pelvis so baby turning itself is still possible I imagine that means it's also possible for them to try and turn externally.
So not quite on the chopping block yet

OB informed us the only clinically backed alternative method proven to have results in turning breech babied is moxibustion . And was all she could suggest we try
So I'm also going to try getting my toes smoked. This amuses me as I wasn't expecting of all the things that to be medically backed
She also said bub can still turn so now it's just a wait and see what we get delt

What is toe smoking?

foxaírt · October 2017

@NYTino24
Moxibustion
ETA:
It is acupuncture where they also smoak needles in your little toes with mugwort

DungeonTrollMel · October 2017

@foxaírt my chiro and my acupuncturist both speak very highly of it. If mine hadn't flipped when he did I was going to be going back Tommy acupuncturist for a few sessions. I haven't seen him since the end of my first trimester but he told me if babynwas breech come back at 34-35 weeks for that. Other wise come back at 37 for labor prep sessions. If you can find some one that does fertility/pregnancy specialized acupuncture, they would be the best for that

foxaírt · October 2017

@DungeonTrollMel
the OB gave us a place that does just that do we are going to give it a try just need to get in to see someone tried calling yesterday but couldn't get onto them . Will try again today
And may look at a chiro

Tho I feel like it's all a little too late now as we are already 37 weeks. And bub is less likely to spin on their own.

Am seeing doc today to talk about ECV
Bub responds to gentle nudges of my abdomen when you feel for a foot or bum we get a lot of squirming. I feel like they are trying but just stuck so hope a version will help with that and baby can free up and help the doc out .

But we will see .

DungeonTrollMel · October 2017

@foxaírt my chiro has gotten babies to turn the day before scheduled c section so it doesn't hurt to try. If you are farther just plan on possibly going in 3-4 days in a row to really get some work done

foxaírt · October 2017

ECV on Monday was unsuccessful
Not only did but not turn the Lil monkey pushed back and fault the doc on the subject.
*sigh*
We have been referred to another hospital with a specialist team of Obstetricians and midwives who deliver breech. There's only 2 hospitals in our state with people trained for breech delivery
We are at 38W today still doing all the home things to incourage bub to turn but are now prepping for a vaginal breech birth .

Which I didn't think was avaliable to us
Feeling much better about it all and even with still a high chance of c sec I feel more in control of our birth and knowing the team are all on our side for a successful vaginal delivery especially being our first baby

Been a long week for us and I had the app play up not letting me post ...

MaximumEffort · October 2017

I'm a little upset. Last week babies head was in the pelvis, this week he has wiggled his way out and back to oblique. I've been told to do some Spinning babies.

Karrotelle · October 2017

Well, I didn’t make it very far past my last comment. Delivered the twins the next day actually (Oct 13) and just as I suspected, they were both breech, so it ended up being an emergency csection.

foxaírt · October 2017

@MaximumEffort
Oh naughty Bubba hopefully he gets back into position .

@Karrotelle
I saw you had them . Congratulations
Cheeky Friday 13th pair

MaximumEffort · October 2017

I hope so too, I am ready for him to arrive. I did some Spinning babies, DH will help me with the side lying stuff. His head is in the pelvis but off to the side which isn't helping effacing since I've been having contractions. I can tell he has been moving around because the kicks are different.

foxaírt · November 2017

@MaximumEffort
How's bubs positioning going?

MaximumEffort · November 2017

@foxaírt bubs is currently positioned right side up on his daddy's lap

he was born on Friday night, he was head down. We did some Spinning babies at home alone and again during labor with the midwife during transition.

foxaírt · November 2017

Oh perfect .
I'm so pleased it worked out well for you . Happy Lil family

Our little one arrived last friday also
In the end there was more going on and they didn't recommend labor even if she was head down as she is small and there was a very low AFL tho the growth issues and low fluid are probably why she didn't turn

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