April 2018 Moms

Game of Thrones Episode 6 ***SPOILERS***

maureenmcemaureenmce member
edited August 2017 in April 2018 Moms
Hi all!  I remember we had a GoT thread for some of the earlier episodes - anyone want to chat about the latest one?

What was your favorite part of the episode?

Least favorite?

Any predictions for the finale?  Or next season?

GoT rants or raves?

GTKY: What's your favorite house/family? 

Re: Game of Thrones Episode 6 ***SPOILERS***

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  • How I am after this week's episode:



    I know Dany and Jon are family but I thoroughly enjoyed all the eye-sex that happened between them. I mean he called her DANY and MY QUEEN. Ahhhh!

    RIP Viserion. You were too good for this world. I'm so sad we have to see him die twice :( 

    Also, anyone starting to hate Arya? She's really getting on my nerves with the whole "I'd die before I'd do that"... ooook big talk now that you're a skilled assassin 
  • I hated this episode so much. It was lazy, nonsensical storytelling. I'm so mad at it. Logic is important. Timelines matter. This was so dumb. Writers clearly just had three or four things they wanted to happen in the last few episodes, and wrote around them to make them happen, even if they were way out of character or just didn't make any sense. 

    Also, I get why everyone loves Tormund- he's great -but I don't get how people don't think it's a little creepy that he keeps insisting he's gonna bone Brienne when she's made it really clear more than once that she's not interested. Dudes who are pushy like that and can't take a hint just don't sit well with me. 

    My finale prediction: The wall is going down.
  • @tgortney totally agree about Arya.  I feel her cocky attitude is too g to catch up with her soon.  

    What was your favorite part of the episode?
    any time Dany and her dragons come in and tear shit up is amazing.

    Least favorite?
    Ayra sure what her sister did is bad but honestly she probably thought they were going to kill her if she didn't. 

    Any predictions for the finale?  Or next season?
    I feel like Cersei might do something bad at this meeting or at least try to. Also I think Jamie will betray Cersei at some point 

    GoT rants or raves?
    I do agree this season is moving pretty slowly.  But seeing Jon Snow finally start to be a leader is awesome.

    GTKY: What's your favorite house/family? 
    I don't think I have a favorite house/family I have more favorite characters and it's like one or two from a certain house. 

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  • @tgortney  I get so emotional about dragons at risk/dragon death.  I may have involuntarily screamed when he was hit with that spear.  Also, Arya is driving me crazy.  She's turned into a total psycho!  If I were Sansa, I'd seriously put her in a cell until she calmed down and turned back to normal.  She threatened to cut Sansa's face off!  It's nuts!

    @looeeze Agreed x10000.  I've spent so much of this season, especially last night's episode, yelling "but that doesn't make any SENSE."  My theory is that the showrunners are great at distilling the book's down to the most essential parts, but they're no good at being ahead of the books because all they can do is the BIG moments and not the logic, emotional connective tissue, and smaller, important moments that make you feel grounded in the world.  I mean, I love dragon battles, but there's no reason why we have to throw logic out the window to get them.  The motivation for going on this dumb ass expedition to the north - grabbing a white walker to convince Cersei to fight with them - is so illogical and weird I'm probably going to be ranting about it on my death bed.

    @Dumbgurl04 Agree that Jamie will betray Cersei soon.  I really think they're going to eventually die in some sort of murder suicide.


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    GoT rants or raves?
    I do agree this season is moving pretty slowly.  But seeing Jon Snow finally start to be a leader is awesome.
    Really? You think this season is moving slowly? I mean... Gendry ran like a marathon and a half in deep snow, sent a raven from the Wall to Dragonstone, and then Dany rode dragons back to the Wall... in like 6 hours. How is that moving slow? They bent the space-time continuum to make that happen. Not to mention the magical time-travelling abilities of Euron's fleet. 

    @maureenmce UGH. Besides the stupid, stupid, stupid plan to capture a wight (what?! Cersei doesn't even CARE and Tyrion would know that), someone's gotta explain to me how there is a non-frozen lake north of the wall. 

    I'M SO MAD. I knew an ice dragon was coming and I think it's a cool thing. But I don't want the story to be flipped upside-down for the sake of a plot point, and stop making sense when I've invested 6 seasons understanding this world and the motivations of the characters in it. 
  • @looeeze Oh my god, I didn't even *think* of the logical issue of the non frozen lake being north of the wall!  And in winter!  That's just lazy.  I think they wanted a zombie dragon and just decided they would throw whatever logic out the window they needed to get one.  It's ridiculously frustrating!

    And yes, of all of the people we have ever met in Westeros, Cersei is the one who would care the least about banding together to defeat the common enemy.  And it's nuts that anyone pretends otherwise, as you said, especially Tyrion.  Hell, Cersei would probably see that wight and get an idea about *using them as an army* before she'd think of banding together with other houses to fight against the white walkers.
  • @maureenmce It seems like the actors are really bringing it (Dany's stone-cold stunned face when Viserion fell!) but the writers are phoning it in. I get that they had to get Dany north of the wall with a dragon to make the ice dragon thing happen but I can think of one or two better plots that would've had the same outcome without sacrificing common sense.

    Thanks for being rant-y with me! 
  • @looeeze Any time!  We've been ranting about it (and talking theories) in my office all day too - it's been fun!  
  • Sissy42Sissy42 member
    edited August 2017
    I love reading all of y'all's feedback. On so many points I agree.

    What was your favorite part of the episode?
    This was not a favorite episode for me, but I did enjoy some of the banter between characters. I've missed the character building lately since there's been a much larger emphasis on progressing the action timeline. I do like that they are consistent with the Hound's fear of fire. And while I also hated that the dragon went down, that was some seriously epic frozen javelin throwing. (Although why did he not do that to Jon or anyone else on the island, if he was perfectly capable of hitting a moving dragon target from a long way away?)
    OH! The blue eye. Yeah, that was awesome.

    Least favorite?
    I *know* it's fantasy, but I feel like we are having to deal with bigger and bigger leaps of logic. The logistics of ravens, boat rides, etc., just don't always make sense. In this case, I wondered, were they still really close enough to the wall for Gendry to run? Would the ice really break in the middle of "the longest hardest winter"? Would NO one question the idiotic idea of going north in the hopes of capturing a wright that there's no way Cersei would even care about? And HELLO JON, don't take a 45 second self-pity break in the middle of a giant fight. Get with it dude! Oh - and where did the White Walters get all that chain?

    Any predictions for the finale?  Or next season?
    I think that while the dragon is now turned, it will still be able to breathe fire - but for the enemy's purposes, not Dany's. I think the dragons are going to melt the wall and that's how the white walkers are going to be able to head south. I'm also guessing that maybe Sansa will kill Littlefinger with the dagger Arya handed her? I honestly don't think Dany is going to survive to claim the throne of the 7 kingdoms.

    *ETA: I think this meeting during the next episode will be where Jaime is convinced that they need to save the world, and will officially convince him that as much as he doesn't like it, he's no longer on Cercei's side.

    GoT rants or raves? oops, I think I did that already. Sorry! One more vent: Arya. No bueno.

    GTKY: What's your favorite house/family? I guess overall House would be Stark? But I don't know if I genuinely feel like that. Sir Davos is an absolute favorite, I loved Olenna Tyrell, the Hound has majorly grown on me, Tryion is amazing, Jon is awesome, and Lyanna Mormont rocks my socks off. Hm, guess I didn't even mention a Stark family member (unless you count Jon), so maybe not, LOL.

    @maureenmce I don't get, dig, or see the Jon/Dany love affair either. 
  • @looeeze the only reason I say it's moving slow is in past seasons I was glued to the tv this season. I find myself looking at the clock seeing how much time is left.  The action is awesome but some of the talking seems like it's taking to long.

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  • @looeeze So much yes to everything you said. 

    What was your favorite part of the episode? The scene between Dany and Jon at the end.

    Least favorite? Um, I only pick one? I definitely hated the whole suspension of the space-time continuum to get us to a zombie dragon. Also agree that the nonfrozen lake thing irritated me.

    Any predictions for the finale?  Or next season? I don't do predictions because I am always wrong!

    GoT rants or raves?
    D
    id anyone else feel like the writers had played too much WoW?
    Wrath of the Lich King
    I mean, I know themes in fantasy repeat over and over from different worlds, but this was just really similar.

    GTKY: What's your favorite house/family? Starks, because I'm basic like that  ;)

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  • Sissy42 said:
    Least favorite?
    I *know* it's fantasy, but I feel like we are having to deal with bigger and bigger leaps of logic. The logistics of ravens, boat rides, etc., just don't always make sense. In this case, I wondered, were they still really close enough to the wall for Gendry to run? Would the ice really break in the middle of "the longest hardest winter"? Would NO one question the idiotic idea of going north in the hopes of capturing a wright that there's no way Cersei would even care about? And HELLO JON, don't take a 45 second self-pity break in the middle of a giant fight. Get with it dude! Oh - and where did the White Walters get all that chain?


    Ohhh @Sissy42 I'm so with you. I was yelling at the TV this episode lol.

    What was your favorite part of the episode?

    My fave part was definitely Dany and Jon. They are doing a great job of setting us, the audience, up for whatever they are going to do with their relationship. They are building us up making us hopeful for a potentially incestual relationship (something I never thought I'd say...) but its making me doubt everything I think i know about their potential related-ness.

    Least favorite?

    Ugh, I hated the battle scene. I get really anxious during pregnancy and television shows that draw out the drama and suspense really make me anxious. I was half a second away from using the 10-second fast forward feature when Dany finally showed up.

    Any predictions for the finale?  Or next season?

    GoT rants or raves?

    Like others.... WTF GoT, I want less ridiculous logic leaps and if you won't give me that, give me less confusing contradictory logic leaps. Gendry's marathon run? The insane turn around time between the raven and Dany's arrival, yet Jon was never able to send a damn raven to Winterfell and update Sansa during this whole time??

    GTKY: What's your favorite house/family?

    I have two faves: House Martell and House Tyrell.

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  • Ok so I know a lot of people are against Dany and Jon hooking up and I get it because ew, incest.

    BUT

    We also have to keep in mind that they need the targaryen blood of old Valyeria to connect to the dragons and become to dragon riders. Dany thinks she is barren so I'm pretty sure Jon will fix that. That house just has so much magic behind it. I can see why they had incest marriages to keep the bloodlines pure.

    So I know I'm an outlier but I'm shipping Dany and Jon to restore House Targaryen. 
  • I might be an outlier because I actually loved the episode and have so many theories now. Tyrion is probably a Targaryen or I'm still holding hope that Gendry is, as well. DH has read the books and has the same rants about Jon surviving the lake scene. He says the George RR Martin he knows from the books would have killed Jon. 

    That being said, I'll answer the questions from above :p

    Favorite part: Tormund's conversation with the Hound. Also when the Hound saves him. 

    Leasf favorite: when Viserion is killed, too much accuracy by the Night King was a bit unbelievable, especially after the scorpion didn't accurately harm 
    Drogon. 

    Predictions: Jon and Dany will have a plan (thanks to Tyrion) because Cersei is coming at them next week. I've also read a great theory that The Red Priestess will lift the curse on Dany's womb and they will have a child. In order to stop the Other's and re-establish the pact, they will give their child to The Night King as the prince who was promised. Jaime is going to turn on Cersei, because there's no way I believe she's pregnant.

    Rants/raves: I'm actually enjoying this season. Also, if you want story line fillers or for the series to make more sense, rewatch season 1. 

    GTKY: Well considering I was late to the GOT fad and didn't get into it until season 6 was being released, I have had people stop me (prior to being into it) and tell me I look like Margery Tyrell (not necessarily Natalie Dormer herself, though). That prompted me to get into the show. So, long live the Tyrells. May they RIP. 

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  • Predictions: Jon and Dany will have a plan (thanks to Tyrion) because Cersei is coming at them next week. I've also read a great theory that The Red Priestess will lift the curse on Dany's womb and they will have a child. In order to stop the Other's and re-establish the pact, they will give their child to The Night King as the prince who was promised. Jaime is going to turn on Cersei, because there's no way I believe she's pregnant.

    Whaatttttt!?!?! I'm going to have to look into this!
  • @klburke88 bahahahahahahahahahahaha

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  • @toorahloorah  Oh, that is such an interesting theory about the Melisandre making it so that Dany can have children!  I know she has one thing left to do and I assumed it would be resurrecting someone (maybe Dany!) during the great war with the white walkers, but...that is a super interesting idea.  That would be interesting.

    Also, re: the Targaryen line: I wonder if they would still have the dragon powers if it was a normal, non incestuous relationship and the child would be half Targaryen?  Like, if Tyrion (assuming he is a Targaryen) had a child with Sansa (completely hypothetically) would that half Targaryen child be enough to continue the bloodline?  I would think so, since limiting the passing down of powers to only fully incestuous relationships seems...short sighted?  Also, gross?  Lol.  But I have no idea!

    And the more I think about Cersei seeing this captured wight, the more I think she's going to go "Oh, who needs mercenaries!  THIS is my new army!  Let's cut a deal with the Night King!"
  • And the more I think about Cersei seeing this captured wight, the more I think she's going to go "Oh, who needs mercenaries!  THIS is my new army!  Let's cut a deal with the Night King!"
    YESSSSSSSSS
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