multiple chemical pgs

dizze98765 · May 2017

Hi! I wondered if anyone might have any experience with multiple chemical pregnancies. I'm up to at least 7 that I can remember, I've honestly lost count. I first had pcos and wasn't ovulating so couldn't get pregnant at all. Now I can get pg reasonably easily, but they're all ending in cp's.

This was my longest one so far. Usually I get an early positive for maybe a couple of days, but I found out this past saturday and just got my 2nd beta today. It was 32 on Tues and 42 today. So it's not sticking and I'm cramping already and now I get to be on ectopic watch until the number starts falling. Has anyone had multiple chemicals and care to share their experience/knowledge? I have an appt set up with my old RE on Wednesday, but am wavering. I'm stuck in this weird spot of feeling like I should give up since I have children already. I guess I don't know if I should even be on this board, but since we're in limbo about continuing TTC. If we keep trying I'd like to get some idea of what can be wrong that can be causing this many. I feel like if I can get a more solid reason to what's causing this I might be more likely to keep trying. I just can't keep seeing positive test after positive test only to end up not pregnant and not know why.

Mack2342 · May 2017

I have no experience with this just wanted to say I'm sorry you are going through this

SP128 · May 2017

I'm sorry abt all your losses. I'm going through a chemical right now. We are pretty welcoming on this board so feel free to hang out Hopefully the re will have some insight

dpjennifer · May 2017

I've had 4 losses, all early losses. Have you had a RPL panel of tests done? Maybe something will show up for you? Also have them look at ureaplasma. Not everyone tests for it and some medical studies point that it could be a cause of recurrent early pregnancy loss, but some doctor's aren't sure that it has anything to do with it. A shot in the dark, but worth a go?

MooFish2364 · May 2017

I haven't had any CPs that I know of...I just can't get pregnant at all. But I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry about all that you're going through.

msstephanielynn · May 2017

I first want to say that I am sorry for your losses. I know from experience how hard it is to get pregnant and be excited only to have it be lost a few days later. I am in a similar situation, like you, I get pregnant easily (actually every month that we have tried resulted in a pregnancy, which is odd to me) however staying pregnant is the problem. I have had one m/c ending in a d&c after 6weeks with no heartbeat/growth, then followed by 2 chemical pregnancies. Time is not on my side here, so I decided to discuss with my OB since they were all documented with beta tests. If you have had more than 3 CP's I believe that qualifies as a referral to infertility. I'm seeing the RE next month. From what I have read up on it may be something simple like a progesterone level is off, so I would recommend you move forward with the initial RE consult just to hear their experienced thoughts on what may be happening.

Also, there is a theory out there (I'm not sure how supported it is) but it's being called super fertility - where some women's bodies will accept a non-viable pregnancy, which most women would not, then after a few days/weeks, the body finally catches up and realizes that it's not actually viable and then ends in miscarriage. So in theory, it's very easy for these women to fall pregnant, however with non-viable pregnancies that most women would not fall pregnant with, therefore resulting in increased miscarriages.

dizze98765 · May 2017

Thanks so much everyone. I appreciate the support. My cd21 progesterone was great this month- 14. When they checked my first beta I know she said the progesterone was good. I haven't had an RPL panel done. My OB is amazing at being pregnant and delivering babies, but she's not been helpful when I have issues like these. I will try again if I can get a solid idea of what could be the problem, so I'm hoping the RE has insight. I just can't keep getting pregnant and losing it. Unfortunately I have symptoms super early so can always tell. I get a 3rd beta tomorrow so at this point I'm just hoping it's gone down. My test wasn't much lighter today and now my shoulder hurts so of course I'm panicking that it's not just a pulled muscle.

kiki75 · May 2017

@dizze98765 I really hope that this is not an ectopic and your body recovers quickly. Push for full RPL testing. Clearly there is something amiss and sometimes it's just a really easy fix to end this cycle of misery. Other times it's more involved but it's better to have the facts and make a plan from there instead of just getting punched by a CP over and over again. I'm only on loss #2 but since I'm already working with an RE, we're doing RPL testing and it's a huge relief to be doing something more to hopefully quit this crappy ride.

Chawk17 · May 2017

@dizze98765 I'm really sorry you are going through this.
I was on ectopic watch in April- so I know that is scary.
Keep us posted on what's going on.

dizze98765 · May 2017

I got my third beta drawn today, but won't hear anything until Monday. My test was about the same darkness as the past couple of days. Nothing like just waiting to start bleeding on mothers day...

GhanimaAtreides · May 2017

I'm sorry for your losses.

In the past two years I've had a 9w2d clinical loss, a 5w5d chemical, a 4w6d chemical, and a 7w5d clinical cornual ectopic. I also went through RPL testing. Nothing definitive came up. I have borderline concerning AMH for 36, homozygous MTHFR gene mutation on C677T, and borderline high (tests repeated 4 months apart) Lupus Anticoagulant.

Because none of my docs were blown over by supplementing progesterone, I never bothered the first 3 losses. This last one I started a bit of spotting at the beginning of the 5th week (also about the same time I started spotting with my 9w2d loss). After it had kept up 24hrs, I started progesterone supplementation. Spotting stopped immediately. At 7w5d I had perfectly healthy on track growth with 137bpm, implanted literally 3mm away from where I could have had a take home baby instead of a termination procedure.

So the conservative protocol (because of my AMH my doc worries about how productive a medicated cycle would be, plus she'd want to do PGD + IVF with what few embryos she thinks she'd get) is for me to continue methylated folate and folate based prenatals, 100mg ubiquinol & 186mg omega-3 to help with egg quality, 4,000IU vitamin D (confirmed chronically low), and melatonin, start cycle-round baby aspirin to address the borderline lupus anticoagulant (I've always taken only after +hpt), start cycle round B6 100mg to buff up my luteal phase which is already a comfortable 12 days, start progesterone supplementation from the day of my next positive HPT instead of waiting for spotting, in conjunction with aggressive beta testing early on. All of these fall into the precautionary "can't hurt" category or have test results to support their use.

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