Well, that's a wrap! Nick proposed to Vanessa and she said yes. Poor Raven.

So Let's talk about it.
Were you surprised he chose Vanessa? And will they last?
Who *should* he have chosen?
Were you surprised he made Raven go through getting ready and pouring her heart out to him instead of telling her before like bachelors in the past have?
Anything to add?
Re: Bachelor Fans- Final Rose
Who it should've been: Ummm Corinne? Haha jk she's a mess. I don't know. I can't picture any of them together long term.
I wasn't surprised they had the final rose ceremony with Raven. It's such a huge part of the finale that I think he might've been contractually obligated to wait.
Adding: I got nauseous watching him break up with Raven! So so painful but she handled it like a champ. Glad she'll be on BIP.
Did NOT like that they "started" the bachelorette last night. Four guys? That was painful and awkward.
I wasn't surprised he chose Vanessa, all season long he said they were so much alike so it was pretty obvious it was going to be her. He has a type for sure. No, they will not last.
Who *should* he have chosen?
He should have chose Raven. Way less complicated and way more love. Or corinne.
Were you surprised he made Raven go through getting ready and pouring her heart out to him instead of telling her before like bachelors in the past have?
I hate that he did. He could have at least spared her from saying how in love with him she was. Maybe it was contracted like @mrsmatt1212 said.
Anything to add?
I think Rachel will be an awesome bachelorette but the big surprise for Rachel with the guys was super awkward.
I didnt find Rachel's new guys attractive until I saw this picture of Blake today...
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I do not think they will last at all. Maybe as long as he's in DWTS they will stay together...
That was super awkward revealing four guys last night. Not sure why that was done but to maybe beat RealitySteve to the punch? Too bad he already had 4 other guys to release today! I just love him!
it was fun ladies! We will have to do this again starting in May when Rachel's season starts!!
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I don't think I've ever seen a final rose ceremony with just one girl. Like others, I wonder if they are forced to have both of them come for the drama.
Can't wait for BIP - the ridiculous, awkward drama is just too entertaining. Also saw Chris Soules was invited to join...I'm not a huge fan of him, but he and Raven might be cute because they're both used to country living.
Were you surprised he chose Vanessa? And will they last?
not really, but I read spoilers beforehand. I want them to last, but don't see it happening.
Who *should* he have chosen?
i honestly think he would have been better off with Raven.
Were you surprised he made Raven go through getting ready and pouring her heart out to him instead of telling her before like bachelors in the past have?
I feel like they make both of them come out, but I wish he would have had at least cut her off as she was pouring her heart out.
Anything to add?
They looked and sounded miserable. I totally get that it would be tough in a situation where you had to hide your relationship for months. But they just didn't seem happy.
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TTC #2: Aug 2016, BFP Nov 2016, DS: August 2017