FFFC March 31

vflux33 · March 2017

@JJMNO1616 This is part of why I left Facebook. Differing opinions are fine, but I have an uncle (and a few other people) who just went on there to antagonize me and my friends who don't share his politics. The post rarely even directly related to their insults. After unfriending a few people who were particularly aggressive and personal in their insults, and making a complicated series of lists of people to make certain types of posts invisible to, I gave up and deactivated after the primary. It's been 9 months since I left that cesspool of unsolicited opinions, surprise KU announcements, and humblebrags, and life is so much better. When I do disagree with people on politics or anything else, they're usually not as annoying about it in person as they are online.

eggplantface · March 2017

@JJMNO1616 I hate when people go right to ad hominem attacks in an argument, like that means they win. When the personal attacks come out, or the illogical arguments, I bail out because there's just nothing to be gained at that point. Like @LuND I don't post much on FB, especially if I think a troll (who doesn't mind their real name being associated with stupidity) will jump on me. I think the last heated argument I got into was about the use of double spaces after a period, because that's an issue I'm passionate about

Tennis11785 · March 2017

@JJMNO1616 - Gotcha. I have some people I'm FB friends with from where I grew up who post political stuff all the time. But the minute anyone comments disagreeing with them, even if it's politely and in a dialogue, they flip out about how "it's their wall and they can say what they want" and "how dare you come here and disagree with me." It's super frustrating because it essentially says "I can tell you how I feel but don't you dare tell me how you feel". But if in your situation this person just came to pick a fight, which is sounds like they did, that's a whole other thing.

Avrilmai · March 2017

@eggplantface so now I need to know, are you pro double space? or no double space?

jenotontx · March 2017

Avrilmai said:

@eggplantface so now I need to know, are you pro double space? or no double space?

HAha I was just looking at her comments to see if they were double spaced but couldn't tell. I've never understood the double space thing? Not that I don't agree with it, i've just never heard about why you would or would not?

lund · March 2017

Double spacer right here!

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/d1/7hr5dlng8dhs.gif

MJDsquared · March 2017

I was taught in high school to double space, so that's what I always did writing papers in college! I don't double space on informal stuff like TB though.

eggplantface · March 2017

Single space! I actually didn't know what double spacing was until I got my first job as an editor. I thought "double space" referred only to the extra space between lines in term papers.

kiki75 · March 2017

@LuND

Single space!! It was double space when a lot of us learned because the programs weren't intelligent enough to auto-kern so if you had a sentence that ended with say, a w, and then the next sentence started with a W, they'd snuggle up too close to each other for good readability. Now computers can figure out the spacing automatically so there's the appropriate amount of space between letters. Now, if you double space, it's prone to create rivers of white. Like this:
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So obviously, if you're using a typewriter, you would still double space.

@eggplantface This is why we're friends.

ETA: Yes, I know that the example of white rivers I provided is not based on double spacing after sentences but it was the first thing I found. Lazy!

jenotontx · March 2017

@eggplantface I never knew people double spaced between sentences until I started working as a research coordinator and one of the doctors I worked for always double spaced the protocols. It drove me bonkers so I would make changes and use single spaces. I kind of thought maybe it was a cultural thing because the Dr. I worked with wasn't from the US.... but apparently it's a thing?

Pinky917 · March 2017

Ugh, any memos that we send out for work need to have the double space after the period, and it pains me to do it every time. Also, from what I have been told, there is one woman who will sit there and actually measure every space to make sure it is double spaced before she sends your document for approval.

doula-mama · March 2017

FFFC - Because I have to do my OPKs at work, I put them back in the wrapper so I can keep them and compare... but I often forget to leave them at home, so I have like, five, in my wallet right now

kiki75 · March 2017

@Pinky917 Does she look like this?
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She sounds...pleasant.

Is there a reason that they need them that way? Are they putting them into some type of program? Or are they just not with the times?

https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/735/02/ - on AP Style
https://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html - Includes a reference about Chicago's recommendation because I'm out of time to find the right link to the Chicago Manual site.

Does your company simultaneously like to pretend that they're hip?
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lund · March 2017

@kiki75 @eggplantface I was actually on my way back here to say that I was taught to double space, but I have no idea what the reasoning is/was. I had no idea it was so antiquated!

So, I stand corrected! Although I admit it will be a difficult habit to break. Also, I feel old

lulu1180 · March 2017

@Sailing_Mama I'm about to blow your mind! Since you have FF VIP, you can save pics of OPKs and HPTs in FF. If you go to enter data and scroll all the way down, there's an option for photos and a portion called light box. All of this means no more having to save old OPKs!!!!

eggplantface · March 2017

The military still uses a typewriter font for its memos so they insist on double spacing. They want to pretend it's still WWII, apparently. It's quite comical, and I have to laugh about it or else I'd cry.

I think some teachers still teach double spaces just because that's what they were taught, and their teacher was taught that, and so on, and they weren't ever told it's not necessary anymore so it keeps getting taught. When I see it I just do a ctrl+F and replace the spaces, but I get so infuriated when I see not two, but three, four, five spaces, like they just mashed the space bar a bunch of times. If you're gonna do double, at least be consistent!

@Sailing_Mama Have you seen the thread about the woman who would do OPKs at work and save the PEE to test at home again with an advanced test later? No matter how nuts you think you may be, you'll never be the woman who saved her pee.

Pinky917 · March 2017

@kiki75 The best part about your comment is the fact that I work for...wait for it...

A government agency.

LoveInDC · March 2017

As a tech writer and grammar nerd, I'm loving so many of these FFFCs. Yes, double spacing was introduced because of typewriters not having automated spacing. An issue solved by modern computers. I'll one up you and say that accessibility principles frown on justified text and any excess spacing because it interferes with readability for the hard of sight. So not only is it antiquated, it can be viewed as irresponsible (or illegal discrimination if you want to get technical) to do so!

Augusta108 · March 2017

I was taught to double space when I learned to type in the early 1990s...I've tried to break myself of the habit but I do sometimes fall back into it. I really don't care either way but I had some professors in grad school who insisted on single, and the editor of the local magazine I write for now also has strong feelings about it...so I try to be good.

jlemons-2 · March 2017

@lulu1180 your comment made me think of this one :

lulu1180 · March 2017

haha that's great @jlemons-2!!

doula-mama · March 2017

@lulu1180 Oh dear. This could be really helpful - or a huge rabbit hole hahaha!

@eggplantface What?? That's... well, that's just insane. I promise you all now - I will never be the woman who saves her pee. Pictures of tests in FF though - that's another story!

starla · April 2017

lulu1180 said:

@Sailing_Mama I'm about to blow your mind! Since you have FF VIP, you can save pics of OPKs and HPTs in FF. If you go to enter data and scroll all the way down, there's an option for photos and a portion called light box. All of this means no more having to save old OPKs!!!!

Consider my mind blown!

doula-mama · April 2017

@starla Right?!?! (Also - yay for getting your name sorted out!)

haylsbayls-2 · April 2017

1. I always thought the double space was to make school papers longer (stretch it another page for homework)

2. After the grammar talk, all I could focus on in @Tennis11785 story was the fact that she said "they road in the next lane" instead of rode

3. No one called out the improper use of your and you're happening in this thread !!!

4. I saw 60 new posts on here and thought there would be something juicier

5. DH and I are on a mini vacation in Palm Springs. I'm hungover from yesterday, buzzed from today, and hoping I'm ovulating this weekend!

icecubeinthedesert · April 2017

I don't care if you single or double space, just be consistent. Same with the Oxford comma debate. Though my FFFC is that I usually (ok, maybe always, both on my own writing and when proofreading others) use find and replace to get rid of double spaces, again for consistency. Also, unlike @haylsbayls, I need all the space I can get writing grants!

Edited to fix bad autocorrect... Can't have that during this discussion!

camomile_june · April 2017

@kiki75 I so agree! On most other grammar things, I'm very chill and generally ok with the fact that language changes, and the majority is in the right. But the overcorrection of "and me" to "and I" drives me nuts. There's a simple test for this, people! Just delete the "___ and" and see if you still think it should be "and I". Drives me crazy. But then of course, I don't mind overusing "me" in contexts like "me and ___ talked about" where it really should be "I"....

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