Hi ladies! I was active on these boards for a while then decided to take a break. I tried to push all pregnancy-related thoughts as far back in my brain as I could. As my husband and I are going to move forward with IVF, I'm curious if anyone has switched fertility doctors after 2 years of treatment. I'm really unhappy with the treatment we've been getting and just feel like "a number". I feel like, if we're going to spend $12-15k out of pocket, that I want to have someone in my corner that cares and is giving me the best medical advice and treatment possible. So, I'm interested to know if anyone switched as they were going to do IVF, and if you did, did your new doctor make you go through all the tests and everything again, or did they use the records from your previous doctor? Also, why did you decide to make the switch? And was the grass really greener on the other side or do feel the care was ultimately the same? Thanks in advance!
Re: Switched Doctors Before IVF?
I switched doctors from my IUI to IVF, as my first RE wasn't in a big clinic and didn't do tons of IVF. I thought I had picked a good new clinic (the success rates were great and there were only 2-3 REs), but I totally felt like a number since all communication was through nurses and never the RE. After 2 bad rounds, I switched to a new RE and had a better cycle than I ever imagined since I have DOR (though the 2 embryos didn't stick). The details are in my siggy. The RE called me multiple times throughout the process and let me know she was watching everything very closely. Then during my consult after the failed cycle, she spent over an hour with me and my DH when I couldn't decide how to proceed next.
I definitely recommend switching, even if it means some retesting. They accepted most of my tests since they were within the past year, but also did a saline sono which I hadn't had before. Not sure where you are located, but you could ask for specific reco's for your area on this board.. or try fertilityiq.com to see if they have reviews for the REs in your area. best wishes for you!
Diagnosis: Mild Endo, DOR (AMH of 1.5), Poor Quality Eggs/embryos, Displaced Window of Implantation (ERA Post Receptive)
March-May 2016: 1 TI and 2 IUIs- BFN
June 2016- Laproscopy- found/removed mild endo and confirmed only 1 normal healthy ovary.
August 2016- IVF #1 with Antagonist Protocol- Cancelled (2 lead follies), converted to IUI- BFN
Oct-Nov 2016- IVF #2 with Estrogen Priming Micro Lupron Protocol, 2 eggs retrieved, day 3 transfer of 1- BFN
January 2017- New RE, IVF#3 with Estrogen Priming Antagonist Protocol, 12 eggs, 8 mature, 6 fertilized, 2 day 5 early blasts transferred (none to freeze
May 2017- Sept 2017- Starting Donor Egg process! Waiting for donor to be available... and then she is pregnant at baseline
Oct 2017- Donor #2: 25R, 22M,18F, 12 blasts frozen! Fresh transfer cancelled due to thin lining with fluid
Nov 2017- Hysterscopy to remove polyp
Dec 2017- DE FET #1 on 12/8 on 2 perfect blasts- BFN and devastated
Jan-Mar 2018- ERA #1- Post receptive by 24 hours, ERA #2 RECEPTIVE with 4 days of Progesterone
Apr 2018- DE FET cancelled for lining issues
Jun 2018- DE FET #2 of two 1AA blasts- first BFP ever! Beta 10dp5dt- 378, Beta 14dp5dt- 2840, Beta 16dp5dt- 4035, beta 18dp5dt- 10916. Due on 2/20 with one baby after a vanishing twin
Baby Born born early @ 33.5 weeks due to Pre-e
Back for # 2!
My new RE I am so much more comfortable with, has the highest success rates in the state and actually lower prices. We were able to start BCP in December for jan stims and retrieval. I did need to repeat some labs and I just scheduled my HSG with my new doc instead of old so that didn't get repeated.
I am am so glad we switched and know I never would have been as happy or feel as taken care of with my previous practice
BFP #2: 4.14.16 CP: 4.17.16
BFP #3: 6.10.2016 CP: 6.17.16
RE appt: 6.27.2016- saline sono all clear
Progenity: + carrier Tay-Sachs, Gaucher's, hemachromatosis. DH: carrier Alpha 1 anti-trypsin
PCOS, hypothyroid, MTHFR, hx of LEEP in 2006
Clomid + TI Cycle #1: 50mg Trigger 8.24.2016- BFN
Clomid 75mg + IUI#1 9.25.2016- BFP #4 10/6
Beta #1 15 Beta #2 38 Beta #3- 71 beta #4 171 Beta # 5- 21 Natural MC 10/21
HSG- clear
IVF Jan 2017
Egg Retrieval 1.22.17: 32 eggs retrieved,29 mature, 24 fertilized, 14 to blastocyst for biopsy
PGS results: 4 PGS normal 2 XX, 2 XY
FET: 3.13.2017 for 2 PGS embryos
Beta#1: 3.24.2017......... 78; Beta # 2 241; Beta #3 4198
Baby BOY due 11.29.2017
I've found that there are plusses and minuses to every doctor I've seen. Some place have great success rates but I've felt that my doctor couldn't pick me out of a police lineup. Other places have lower success rates but I've connected with my RE and appreciate the personal attention. In the end of the day, I think you should go where you feel comfortable and valued.
I'm a doctor myself and I feel like medicine is a service industry and is much like hiring a lawyer, accountant or wedding planner. Part of the business is connecting with patients and if you as a patient don't feel that connection then you have every right to go someplace where you do. Just my 10 cents
Multiple months of Clomid/Femara
End of March 2015: BFP with Femara! Saw heartbeat at 5.5 weeks. M/C at 11 weeks
Multiple more months of Femara
IUI #1 with Femara and Follistem 75 units: BFN
IUI #2 with Follistem 150 units: BFN
Dec 2015: 1st IVF. 10 eggs retrieved with 8 eggs fertilized. 5 day transfer of two embryos with 2 frozen embies. BFN
January 2016: FET #1 2 embryos: BFN
March 2016: 2nd IVF cycle. 4 eggs retrieved with 2 fertilized. Quick two day transfer of both embryos: BFN
April/May 2016 IVF #3. 11 eggs retrieved. 10 mature. 7 fertilized. 2 5AA blasts transferred 5/11/2016 BFN
September 2016 IVF #4: 17 follicles growing, premature ovulation through Cetrotide. Retrieval cancelled.
April 2017 IVF #5: 9 follicles growing, 6 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of three blasts. BFN
June 2017: IVF #6: 2 follicles growing, 5 eggs retrieved with 5 fertilized. Transfer of 5 3-day embryos. Chemical pregnancy. BFN
Nov/Dec 2017: Donor egg cycle. 33 eggs retrieved, 26 mature. 26 fertilized.
I agree with @radmom27 that you have to feel a connection with the doctor. I can't imagine going through this not having the support and transparency that I am experiencing with my current doctor.
Me 32 H 31
Married 2013
childhood cancer survivor - Ovarian Failure
Donor Egg Recipient
DE IVF# 1 May 2017 BFN
DE IVF #2 June 2017 BFP
When I first embarked on IF journey, I went to a clinic that specialized in IF and did a few tests. It felt a little impersonal, and since I was already anxious, it didn't ease my mind even a little bit.
A few months later I decided to try a different place - it's a reproductive department in a bigger network that has multiple hospitals/clinics all over the city. Back then they had one RE and one certified nurse midwife who helped her out (+ a fleet of regular nurses). They respond to all email communication within a day, and are really super personable. I actually built some personal relationships with a few nurses, who still remembered me when I came back 2 years later (first time was IUI, I came back for IVF with a different husband
They now have 4 REs, and I found out that every day around 1pm they all gather together and discuss all the patients going through a cycle at the moment. There is a lot of thought that goes into each patient unique treatment, and it does feel good.
Also, for the payments, since it's a bigger healthcare network, they don't charge "per cycle" fee, but just bill you explicitly for each separate visit and test (which I believe also motivates better care - no need to cut corners).
My story in signature spoiler. Children mentioned.
I don't produce FSH, so no natural menstrual cycle. DH has reduced morphology.
Summer 2014 IUI (with first husband): cancelled after almost a month of stims due to too many follicles
Time off to divorce, get back on my feet, find a new hubby and get married again 💑
March 2017 IVF#1: ~70 follicles, 13R, 10M, 7F, 3B = 2 PGS Normal (both XY) - no transfer due to ohss
Sept 2017 FET#1: BFP, Beta#1 (10dpt) - 253, Beta#2 (12dpt) - 528, DS born 05/31/2018 👨👩👦
Dec 2019 FET#2: BFN
Changed clinic, planning March 2020 IVF#2 - postponed due to the pandemic
April 2020 IVF #2: ~30 follicles, 24R, 12M, 8F, 4B = 2XY & 2XX, all normal
Sept 2020 FET#3: one XX embryo, BFP, Beta#1 (9dpt) - 161, Beta#2 (11dpt) - 519, Beta#3 (19dpt) - 7174, Due date 05/30/2021
DD born 05/23/2021 👨👩👧👦 - My family is now complete
I chose the previous fertility clinic not based on reputation, but because it was the fertility department of the hospital network I've been going to for years. At my old clinic, I felt like a number, and they closed one of the clinics and laid off doctors without telling the patients. I loved the first RE, thought I had a connection with her, and all of a sudden, she was gone. The clinic kept going through name changes and restructuring and the doctor turnover was high and chaotic while I was a patient there.
The new clinic is an IVF clinic with only one doctor. The pricing is straight forward and uncomplicated compared to my previous clinic. Communication is easier, the clinic has a policy that the doctor calls the patient directly to report the results of ER, fertilization, blastocyst formation, etc. So that's nice too, rather than getting an email from a nurse. As for whether I made a right decision or not, I don't know. As you can tell from my signature, I already had two failed cycles, and am starting a new cycle soon. This clinic mainly does a protocol that is not yet mainstream, and turns out that protocol did not work for me. Had I stayed with my old clinic, would I have been pregnant by then? I don't know.
I ended up sending all of my bloodwork and test results to my current clinic and I didn't have to repeat anything as all of my test results were less than a year old. In a way it was nice that the previous clinic was a large hospital network as all of my test results were available online.
Unexplained infertility/AMA, polycystic ovaries, insulin resistance
FET#1(July 2017): eSET of first of 4 PGS-normal embryos, DS born 3/30/2018
FET#2(Oct/Nov 2019): eSET
I hated him and I hated the clinic. There was one nurse and receptionist that made it tolerable when they both left I couldn't find any way to keep my sanity. It got so bad that I was panicking trying to catch my breath at the thought of going there. I “broke up” with my RE by email to my nurse when we were in the middle of our second FET. We went to see another person for consult, loved the doctor but saw issues pretty quickly with the nursing team. We found another doc and love her and her team.
I’m not going to sugar coat it the transfer was tough. We had tons of records, embryos and sperm to transfer. There were resubmits for insurance approvals and she wanted repeat testing for anything that was over a year old. (which for all my getting started testing….was over a year old). It was a giant pain but let me tell you I’m so so so happy I did it. I have a doctor that talks to me, that explains things, and talks over options. She has called me on the phone…more than once. My other doc never called me…ever…in a year and a half. She is sensitive to my losses and is invested in our family. She is also very smart will give me peer reviewed articles to indulge my inner nerd and is surrounded by an excellent nursing team and fellow. I can now relax and not question everything my doctor says. I know I’m being cared, and having trust in your team just makes this whole process a heck of a lot more tolerable.
TTC History in Spoiler ***Trigger Warning*** Losses/Child Mentioned
2016
* April IUI#1 - BFN
* June IUI#2 - BFN
* July IUI#3 - CP
* Sept IVF#1 - 4 Retrieved & Mature, 4 Blasts. Fresh Transfer 1 - CP
* November FET #1 - Transferred 1 Blast - CP
2017 Switched REs - Recurrent loss testing for me - all normal, remaining 2 frosties sent for PGS - both abnormal
* April/May IVF#2: 9 retrieved, 8 mature, 7 fertilized, 7 blasts! Sent for testing - 2PGS Normals (0 remaining)
* November IVF #3 12R, 8M, 6F, 4 blasts! - All 4 PGS normal!
* November FET# 2 (Transfer a PGS normal from IVF#2) - BFP!!!
2018 DD born 8/20/18
2019 5PGS frosties ( 4 remaining)
* September FET#3 (1PGS normal) - Beta#1: 139.7 Beta#2: 322.6