For those who have seen heartbeat already

ShakeUpTampa · February 2017

Long story short I ended up in ER per husband and OB yesterday but lucky me got the one doctor in the whole place I can't stand (horrible bedside manner) I was checked out because of prior miscarriage and having ongoing spotting, cramping. They did a transvaginal and sonogram and got my hcg at 1240. Even more lucky apparently I have a minor UTI which I have only had once before in my life! When Dr came in he stated they "think" they saw a yolk sac but want me to follow up with OB in 2 days, OB can't take me until Monday so I sit and wait. I had to also argue no reason to go by LMP when my Ovulation was day 20/21 so if we go by that I was only 5wk5day. Doctor states, at this time there isn't much we can tell you, we have to give you papers on possible miscarriage but it can also be too early. So at least I am getting the antibiotic for the UTI but just wondering for those that saw heartbeat, when it occurred. With my son, they didn't see it at first appointment an asked me to come back a week later and it was there. I just can't recall WHEN I saw OB based on time since it seems so long ago.

Tennis11785 · February 2017

I believe the heart usually starts beating by somewhere in week 6. I know week 5 is one of those sometimes you see it, sometimes its too early. I wouldn't freak just because you didn't see a heartbeat just yet.

ShakeUpTampa · February 2017

Tennis11785 said:

I believe the heart usually starts beating by somewhere in week 6. I know week 5 is one of those sometimes you see it, sometimes its too early. I wouldn't freak just because you didn't see a heartbeat just yet.

Thanks! I couldn't recall if it was 6 or 7 with my son because the LMP vs Ovulation was a main key factor in that one as well. Monday would be 6wk3 I think and I'm already ready for them to say come back in a week, but the blood test is the one thing the ER wanted done again.

Tennis11785 · February 2017

Good luck! I hope you see that little heart flicker next week!

emwj10187 · February 2017

@ShakeUpTampa Im so sorry you're going through this stress right now. I think it's still way to early. I went through something similar. I went in and all they saw was a gestational sac. Checked my HCG and they said it might be too low to see anything just yet. went back 4 days later and they saw everything. They dated me at 5 weeks 1 day when i first went in (based on LMP i was 6 weeks 1 days), then 4 days later dated me at 5 weeks 5 days. I go in on Monday for an official dating scan (based on the doc's measurements, I'll be 7 weeks+2). I know the waiting game is horrible, but its just too early to make a call. From what I've read ER doctors aren't the most reliable when it comes this. Monday is only a few days away. Think of it as extra growing time for your little bean.

ShakeUpTampa · February 2017

@emwj10187 thank you! I think the ER dr got word I hate his guts and was TRYING to be more caring to some degree, said to come back if anything happens or I'm worried but as long as I don't double over in fetal position like last year, I'm going to just take it easy until Monday and go to OB. I just loathe the arguing game over LMP and Ovulation, I feel like I have to LIE about LMP because I don't have normal cycles and it's complete de ja vu with my son.

GodIsFaithful93 · February 2017

I didn't know when LMP was and when I went in according to ultrasound I was 6 weeks exactly. We saw the heartbeat on the screen via vaginal ultrasound and could also hear it. Hope everything is ok with you!!

emwj10187 · February 2017

@ShakeUpTampa yeah I hear ya. My doctor basically made me think i was having an ectopic pregnancy b/c i wasn't matching up to my LMP cycle dates. Put me through a week of horrible stress. Then went back and everything was fine, just measuring about 5 days earlier than he thought. You were smart to go b/c you've been spotting. Some women spot all the way through their pregnancies and have perfectly fine pregnancies. If you're so inclined keep us updated. Sending up prayers and healthy vibes for your appointment on Monday.

ShakeUpTampa · February 2017

Thank you @emwj10187 will certainly update, we didn't tell anyone about our prior miscarriage due to stress levels (was taking care of my dying Mom) and I just don't want that sympathy or look from family/friends, I finally opened up in December to a handful of people because I knew if something were to happen when we got pregnant again I do need some support. Everyone thinks the TWW is the worst....no no...the viable wait is certainly a fight.

Sprinkles · February 2017

I went in for cramping and had an ultrasound, they measured me at 5w5d and seen the HB which was 106.
I think like the previous poster said week 5 to 6 is touch and go with a hb everything is so tiny yet.
Best of luck, I know time drags

Cythe · February 2017

Hey there, I just had my ultrasound yesterday at 5w4d and my RE saw the gestational sac and the yolk sac and said I was right on track.

I don't want to scare you, but I will say that my hcg is well over 7k. Hcg values can vary from person to person, but I still wanted you to know that. Doc expects to see a HB next week when I go in at 6w4d.

Crossing all the things for you!

lovemaddux · February 2017

I've had 2 ultrasounds so far. The dr told me that they don't expect anything on the ultrasound until after your hcg is 1500. I don't know my current levels but once I was over that last week they called me to come in and verified the gestational and yoke sac. Still no heartbeat here. They told us that in a week so much will develop that we should come back then for viability.
And yes the viability wait is terrible. I also had a dr and staff that acted like they didn't believe me. It felt good to see something.
Thoughts & Prayers

ShakeUpTampa · February 2017

@lovemaddux ty for that! I am in range in the 5wk and 6 wk just low but then was told if on low end it can tke 72-96hrs to double so Monday should be a clear time frame on the blood work. Being handed papers that say it could be early pregnancy or miscarriage about to happen is probably the most unsettling part. Got my antibiotics though so going to start those, funny thing is, if I had not going in to check because of spotting I would have had no clue of the UTI. Nurse said UTI can cause some spotting, Dr says it can't...but I clearly do not trust him much since he argued with my Grandmother about why she was in ER a few months ago...and argued with me..she was a nurse for 45yrs....scans come back..oh look it's EXACTLY what we said...he said he had not seen it before...some DR's just have egos that need to be smacked around a little lol. I'm going to remain calm, treat myself well, and try to hold on to some patience

tyannej · February 2017

My dr told me that they really can't see or distinguish anything until your HCG levels are over 2000. Don't stress!

ZukiWife · February 2017

@shakeuptampa I totally get what you're going through! Had our er visit, was told everything was measuring on track for 5 weeks, but could only see a sac. Sent me for blood work on the Friday and Monday, then a repeat ultrasound just this Tuesday, which would have put me at 6 weeks based on my LMP. Saw my doctor yesterday and she said my HCG levels were just under double in 72 hours and they would like to see it double every 48, and they saw a fetal pole on the ultrasound, but no heartbeat yet. Have to go more another HCG test today and another ultrasound next week to see if anything has progressed. She spent about 80% of the appointment talking about what to do in case of miscarriage. Sounds like we're going through pretty close to the same thing. It's frustrating as hell. You're in my thoughts! I hope everything goes well for you!

cranburyposh · February 2017

Oh noes! Sorry to hear what you're going through, hopefully you're feeling better by now. Anyway, I had my first ultrasound on V-Day at 6w2d and we were able to listen to the heartbeat - even being a little bit over the 6 weeks we weren't sure we'd get to listen to the heartbeat as we thought it could be too early. So it might be that you were just a day or two too early! Don't stress out, stay positive for your little one.

virginiaham · February 2017

@ShakeUpTampa FX for a good hcg rise!! I'm so sorry you're facing this. I've had spotting this week and seeing "threatened miscarriage" as my diagnosis on my hcg blood work order yesterday was disheartening. Big hugs, girl.

So for anyone interested there is a correlation between hcg level and what one study found on trans-vaginal US. The article below goes over it, but the gist is:

-At/above hcg 1000 they were able to see a gestational sac on every patient
-At/above hcg 7200 a yolk sac was visible on every patient (less than half of women with hcg between 1000&7200 had a yolk sac visible)
At/above hcg 10800 a heartbeat was visible on every patient

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2660539/

I hope your yolk sac shows up clear after a nice hcg rise next week

ShakeUpTampa · February 2017

Thanks ladies. Bought some cheapy .88 walmart tests just to see if line fades, minimal spotting when wiping but the transvag can of course cause that, except when I peed a little bit ago, had a little blood in the urine. Of course it could be from the violating me with the transvag ultrasound or the UTI so trying not to worry. Today my Chickfila tasted off to me...which is weird since a week ago I wanted it three days in a row. Monday can't come soon enough! I legit felt at the end of the "student tech" that I was being SCRAPED inside by like a finger nail or something sharp. It went from who cares pressure to OMG I want to kick someone

Crystal7perry · February 2017

I we to emerg last Sunday and was able to see the Hb flicker when they dated me at 6+2. I hope you see yours!

buttercream_frosting · February 2017

I'm sorry you are in this limbo. I hope you have lots of fun exciting things planned for the weekend so that Monday can come quicker (did I just wish for MOnday to come quicker?!) Sending lots of healthy vibes

ShakeUpTampa · February 2017

@buttercream_frosting lol yes, yes you did wish us to get Monday faster....but this one time I'll allow it :-) going to keep busy today with work (been so damn sick I have put a lot off) work on gathering more information for my CPA so we can get filed soon, I got my eye on crispy thai peanut chicken tomorrow for lunch, and working on more interior cleaning and decorating but on a lazy level of no stress and no over doing it

After the weird mucus tissue like stuff yesterday no spotting so I'm thinking mess from the transvag scan. I do keep wondering how "off" my dates could be because of ovulation if I may even be less than what I would think. Guess only time will tell but also trying to cut out a lot of sugars and carbs to avoid yeast infections, apparently they are common in pregnancy but I did not get one last time and I have never had one...but got the warning with the UTI

A friend of mine said she had a yeast problem her WHOLE pregnancy and it drove her batty!

ashleyluxe · February 2017

I feel you completely!!! I am going through the same kind of torture waiting and the waiting game just keeps getting dragged out even more.

I was researching online and found the following:
Most importantly, remember, typical doubling times increase with higher hCG levels.
·         Under 1200 mIU/ml: 48-72 hours
·         Between 1200-6000 mIU/ml: 72-96 hours
·         Over 6000 mIU/ml: more than 96 hours

I think it is too early for you to worry! Take it easy and relax.

You've been through this before and I think you I really hope everything works out with you. Please keep me posted!!! Thinking of you and sending positive vibes your way!!

kdel921 · February 2017

@ShakeUpTampa At 5 weeks my RE was looking for gestational sac and yolk sac. At 6 weeks they were looking for a heartbeat. Hang in there! Fingers crossed everything goes smoothly for you. I had a bleeding scare on 2/4 and my little bean ended up being okay.

ShakeUpTampa · February 2017

TY @kdel921 I'm trying to just sail through weekend because minimal spotting but you know how you wonder so instead of WIPING you DAB and of course then it has not traveled so it may be pinkish or reddish instead of "old blood" coloring....figuring I had the transvag which could have irritated cervix and the UTI and MAYBE just MAYBE I ovulated even a little later I mean, I KNOW when we had the BD and I have photos of ovulation sticks to assume dating but our bodies are tricky things so maybe I'm even a little further behind.

WRWrunnergirl · February 2017

Saw a heartbeat at 6 weeks and 1 day.

ShakeUpTampa · February 2017

@WRWrunnergirl that was transvag right?

ShakeUpTampa · February 2017

@ashleyluxe and anyone else who was following, Today was appointment, they don't get lab results back like hospital in an hour so I won't know HCG until Wednesday as they have that being rushed. With the exam, they saw a yolk sac but on photo too dark because of some bleeding, said no SCH and no real reason for the bleeding could just be the irritated vaginal walls due to the UTI. Cervix high and closed, Gestational sac and yolk high up in uterus. No fetal pole or HB yet so they are thinking I am not as far along which drives me a bit batty because LMP 12/31 and they "always go by lmp". They looked up my records with my son and said we saw his HB at 7w/1d and they dated him at that (which is a lie because they moved my DD out a week from 3rd of Nov to 10th of Nov) so I have a follow up scan next Tuesday. I'm really nervous about hearing the HCG number on Wednesday and they will draw again to compare on their end but at that point if doubling it should be around 10-12K compared to the 1240 I got last week. So I'm still holding out hope.

buttercream_frosting · February 2017

Sorry you are still in the waiting game. Hang in there. FX everything is good.

lovemaddux · February 2017

@ShakeUpTampa I was wondering how your appointment went. Sounds like it went well, even if you didn't get a ton of reassurance. Hopefully, you'll get some good numbers on Wednesday.

mrs_fogue · February 2017

@ShakeUpTampa I was watching for an update as well. But sounds like you really didn't get any sort of answer. Fingers crossed for higher numbers Wed.

ShakeUpTampa · February 2017

OK so today was not what I hoped but OB still doesn't think anything to worry about. All my tests besides pap came back already and HCG was 2262 (not doubled in just under 5 days but she thinks it's earlier than we suspect which I still find weird but whatever) She is telling me she will see me next Tuesday and we should see a baby on the ultrasound. I'm trying not to stress myself out but I was hoping to hear over 5,000 on beta but it still qualifies me for 5-6 weeks with those numbers. I just have no clue HOW when I know LMP and pretty accurate on Ovulation

Sooo i'll sit and wait another week.

mrs_fogue · February 2017

The wait is the worst. Hugs. But it's good that your OB is still optimistic.

Cythe · February 2017

I'm so sorry you're still in limbo. The wait literally is the worst. Hang in there!

mamabear148-2 · February 2017

Oh hugs mama... waiting is the worst. I hope her hunch is correct and you get amazing news on Tuesday! Keep us posted pls

ShakeUpTampa · February 2017

Thanks ladies! Dr Google (I know, I know lol) has comforted me a bit seeing as I was told tilted uterus and maybe egg dropped a little later...luckily my schedule is jam packed with things until then and I hope it doesn't drag on!

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