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This is Us Discussion - "Jack Pearson's Son" 2/14
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Kate - telling Duke off! What do you think of her getting kicked out?
Toby & Kate - "Deep Dive” and taking extra time before getting married…thoughts here? Why do you think Kate is so deeply hit by her dad's death?
Randall - his “handling” of stress, how concerning is this to you?
Jack’s blowup about Rebecca’s ex, warranted?
Kevin - leaving the play to go to Randall. Did it surprise you?
Other thoughts or questions?
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Re: This is Us Discussion - "Jack Pearson's Son" 2/14
Kate - telling Duke off! What do you think of her getting kicked out? I'm glad she told him off, but what a douche canoe he is to think he can just do and say whatever he wants bc his parents own the place. Sense of entitlement much? It's sad that something as dumb as that would get Kate kicked out, especially when the rule is that she could leave whenever she wants. I feel like they're always sabotaging her weight loss journey so far in the season.
Toby & Kate - "Deep Dive” and taking extra time before getting married…thoughts here? Why do you think Kate is so deeply hit by her dad's death? I'm glad they're taking time and not rushing into things and that they're trying to get to know each other better. They both have a lot of emotional baggage to deal with and I think getting everything out in the open before jumping into marriage is a good thing. I felt like showing Jack at the end eating the cheeseburger and having a drink is foreshadowing- not necessarily that something's going to happen bc of his drinking that night, but that it's the start of him increasing his drinking again once Rebecca's gone on tour.
Randall - his “handling” of stress, how concerning is this to you? I feel for him. His anxiety is something that goes back to his childhood from the flashbacks and it seems likehe's been able to cope with it in certain ways, besides his break down when he was starting his job. I think it's a lot to handle for him now that William is in the picture and it's just an added stressor so everything is catching up to him again.
Jack’s blowup about Rebecca’s ex, warranted? I think it was semi-warranted because I feel like that's something Rebecca should have told him especially if they are going on tour together. While it may seem insignificant to her because it was so long ago, I'd want to know if my husband was going on tour with someone that they dated regardless of how long ago it was. Especially when the guy seems to show so much interest in Rebecca.
Kevin - leaving the play to go to Randall. Did it surprise you? I was not surprised once he was thinking about what Miguel told him to do what his dad would do. I'm glad that this time he went to go and comfort Randall instead of like the flashback or he just ignored it.
Other thoughts or questions? I only cried a little bit this week when Kevin was comforting Randall at the end. But based off the previews, next week is going to be a sob fest for me.
I'm glad my theory about duke was not correct. I think Kate has all the tools she needs to make changes for herself, and doesn't need a camp, but it's a matter of actually putting them into practice. Sucks how it ended there for her but I'm glad that storyline doesn't continue.
Toby & Kate - "Deep Dive” and taking extra time before getting married…thoughts here? Why do you think Kate is so deeply hit by her dad's death?
I think Toby is right to suggest they wait. I'd be wary of marrying someone who couldn't talk to me about the most life altering situation. I think Kate is so affected because she had such a deep relationship with jack. It's possible she blames herself or Rebecca for his death or even witnesses it. She sat the furthest away from her mom at Kevin's play.
Randall - his “handling” of stress, how concerning is this to you?
Prettt concerning. We already know he is prone to anxiety and nervous breakdowns and it's finally happening to him. Doesn't look good on the job front or William front so I suspect this won't be the last we see of this Randall.
Jack’s blowup about Rebecca’s ex, warranted?
Yes and no. They both communicate pretty poorly with each other sometimes and this is just another example. Obviously Rebecca should have told him about Ben but I don't think he really needs to be concerned enough to start drinking. But of course that's not the only issue in their marriage.
Kevin - leaving the play to go to Randall. Did it surprise you?
Not one bit. When he wasn't there, I knew where he was going. What a dichotomy between that scene and the one where Randall is crying at his computer and Kevin doesn't say anything. I'm glad Kevin is becoming a little less about himself.
Other thoughts or questions?
Really liked the conversation with Miguel and Kevin. Even though we love jack and want him to be in the picture, it's clear that Miguel has some sincere intentions.
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Kate - telling Duke off! What do you think of her getting kicked out? Loved Kate telling him off and thought it showed her strength I feel many of us thought she was going to see him and something else was going to happen, so glad they didn't go there
Toby & Kate - "Deep Dive” and taking extra time before getting married…thoughts here? Why do you think Kate is so deeply hit by her dad's death?
Seems like they need extra time. If you can't share deeply personal things with someone you are about to marry, that is a trust issue.
I agree with PP in that she was close to her dad and maybe somehow feels responsible
Randall - his “handling” of stress, how concerning is this to you? Very concerning. When he had that tear falling down his cheek during that business review, I can see writing in the wall that his job is in serious jeopardy
Jack’s blowup about Rebecca’s ex, warranted? Yes, she should have told him they had some sort of relationship in the past. Jack can see the way her ex looks at her and Rebecca doesn't see it. He doesn't trust the ex and i don't think I would want them on tour together either!
Kevin - leaving the play to go to Randall. Did it surprise you? I figured he was not going to go out there, but was surprised he went to Randall. Cue the waterworks because I lost it when he walked in and saw his brother like that and then just pulled him in. Especially when seeing the flashback and watching him do nothing!
Other thoughts or questions?
Kate - telling Duke off! What do you think of her getting kicked out?
I'm so glad she told him off, but what an ass to get her kicked out. Oh well, I'm glad that storyline is over!
Toby & Kate - "Deep Dive” and taking extra time before getting married…thoughts here? Why do you think Kate is so deeply hit by her dad's death?
Yes, they don't need to rush into the marriage; they're already engaged. I loved their Q&A. I'm wondering why Kate was so concerned about Toby's depression - it made me wonder for a minute if Jack commits suicide. But then, I can't see him doing that to his family. Maybe Jack's depression over Rebecca caused him to drink more & more, and he could've died from alcoholic liver disease, or a drunk driving accident. I wish they'd stop dancing around it, dammit! So much anticipation!
Randall - his “handling” of stress, how concerning is this to you?
I'm very concerned about Randall. I have similar anxiety, and combined with insomnia, I've had a "mental break down". It's no joke. He needs to take a month or two off work, no matter how much it hurts his pride. It looks like he may be doing just that in next week's episode. It looks like a tear-jerker for sure!
Jack’s blowup about Rebecca’s ex, warranted?
Absolutely. My husband & I watched the episode together, and he commented on how upset he'd be if that situation happened to us. I totally agree, she should have told him that when she first started with the band. Withholding that kind of information is basically lying IMO.
Kevin - leaving the play to go to Randall. Did it surprise you?
It didn't surprise me he left, but it did surprise me that he went to Randall. I bawled like a little baby. My hubby was laughing at me. I'm glad Kevin's character seems to be growing up a little more each episode. He's really trying to find himself right now. I hope he & Chloe work out. But so much for the play though, right?! Hope they had an understudy!
Other thoughts or questions?
I also enjoyed the conversation between Kevin & Miguel. Even though Miguel seems like a douche canoe, my husband pointed out that he hasn't done anything wrong. Yet.
Still professing my love for Toby, and his fashion sense!
I really hope they work out.
I REALLY want to know how & when Rebecca & Miguel get together. I think they are gonna stretch out these storylines (and Jack's death) since they've already ordered 2 more seasons. I'm obsessed with this show!
have these answers now, but if they did that what would be left for the next two seasons! It's going to take a while to get to all the answers. If not, the next couple seasons would be total re-writes.
I dunno. Just my random thought. Maybe I'm just missing something and they are clearly married.
Kate - telling Duke off! What do you think of her getting kicked out?
She doesn't need to be there. She needed to realize it's going to take time and effort, plus the ability to drown other things and people out. Duke is an ass.
Toby & Kate - "Deep Dive” and taking extra time before getting married…thoughts here? Why do you think Kate is so deeply hit by her dad's death?
I was so worried that he had second thoughts and was going to break up with her. It's a good idea to wait, but they are 36 and if there's anything I know about age is that it makes you afraid, particularly about trying for kids! I'm not sure about Jack's effect on Kate other than he protected her.
Randall - his “handling” of stress, how concerning is this to you?
He's not doing well, but I was happy to see both him and Kevin tackling anxiety and Toby and Kate discussing depression.
Jack’s blowup about Rebecca’s ex, warranted?
Yup. Spending time alone with an ex, no matter how long ago, is a no-no... even if you "cleared" it with your partner.
Kevin - leaving the play to go to Randall. Did it surprise you?
He keeps screwing up!!! I know his brother needed him, but the guy just blew it. It was a no-win situation.
Other thoughts or questions? Can't wait until next week!
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Kate - telling Duke off! What do you think of her getting kicked out?
I'm so glad she didn't hook up with him. But for real, I'd go to mom and dad and say, "your son is trying to blackmail me into sleeping with him." So that little bit annoyed me because it was so unrealistic.
Toby & Kate - "Deep Dive” and taking extra time before getting married…thoughts here? Why do you think Kate is so deeply hit by her dad's death?
It's good and some of those questions are things that any normal person would discuss with their future spouse. Like whether or not they want kids. The really deep stuff is good too and I see why they think Kate should be able to talk about her dad, but there are some really deep seeded issues there and she clearly has pushed those emotions way down. That conversation feels like one she should have with her therapist, not her fiancé over coffee. I also cannot wait to get those answers as to how Jack died and how Miguel came into the picture. I wonder if Kate was involved somehow too, maybe he was rushing to get to something of hers or maybe she did see it. The show can still continue once we know how he died, it doesn't mean we can no longer flash back to when he was still alive.
Randall - his “handling” of stress, how concerning is this to you?
I really feel for Randall and the amount of stress he's putting on himself. What I can't understand is why his wife doesn't seem to be helping him, making him skip his work meeting last week and him not being able to call her to deal with the hospice nurse when he knew he had something important to work on. I guess I just don't believe he'd be so careless with his career when he does suffer from so much anxiety and puts all that pressure on himself.
Jack’s blowup about Rebecca’s ex, warranted?
Eh, it was a slight overreaction. I'm sure he was pissed he had to find out the way he did, but to let it totally ruin their entire night and then to go eat their planned meal alone? Pull yourself together, man.
Kevin - leaving the play to go to Randall. Did it surprise you?
I also thought this was sweet and I'm glad he's turning into a real brother after all this time. Definitely made me teary. Although I was wondering why he couldn't at least warn someone he wasn't going to go stand on his mark!
Other thoughts or questions?
Miguel made me cry! His little speech was so sweet and touching.
I was reading some random This is us fan blog and a lot of people think Jack dies from drinking or in a drunk driving accident. What do you think? I have no idea but I don't really think it has to do with his drinking.
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Kate-- I was kinda surprised when Duke said his parents own the place. But then I wasnt lol. I'm almost glad she got kicked out. I just hope she realized what issues she needs to work on before she left.
Kate & Toby--i think it's a great idea that they're taking some time to really get to know each other before getting married. They both seem to have some really deep issues that need to be talked about and worked on. I hope they still get married though, I love them together!
Randall--Oh man this guy needs some good coping skills. He bottles everything up and tries to be everyone's big shoulders to lean on. He can't do that anymore. He has so much going on around him, he needs to take the time to handle and deal with each thing. Poor guy, my heart really hurts for him.
Jack--i think he blew it a tiny bit out of proportion, but he also had it building up that he didn't want her on tour. I think I would have reacted the exact same way had I been in his shoes.
Kevin-- I'm not surprised that he didn't go on stage, but I honestly thought he was running to Sophie at first. When it was Randall, I definately shed a few tears! So so sweet. Him and Randall have had a really rocky relationship. I'm so glad he's there for him now when nobody else is. (because they don't know to be)
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@taylormarie923. I kwym about Randall's wife. I thought that was super-weird when she insisted that he go to some boring chess tourney - <i>that she was going to be attending </i>- and tell him he still had to miss an important client dinner??? I mean, like does she not know the kind of job her husband has? How critical those client relationships are? They have a pretty kooshy life and she may be in for a shock if they suddenly were to lose his income.
But! I do think the nurse had to call Randall bc the MiL had broken her hip so the wife was out of town. (Don't know why I'm drawing a blank on her name atm.) But in that moment, I was actually just pissed like, "Kevin! Get off your ass and bring the damn housekey over and let the nurse in so Randall can work!" So that aspect seemed kind of unrealistic to me, like he couldn't help is brother out earlier THAT SAME DAY, but later that night, he's willing to throw away his whole NY stage actor thing bc he knows he's upset? Mmmm, I don't buy it. It came off as cowardly like he was pretty quick to use his brother's panic attack as an excuse not to face his demons and go on stage.
I still cried tho! Lol
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