It's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most...not where you live, or what you drive, or the price tag on your clothes... There's no dollar sign on a piece of mind, this I've come to know! *ZBB*
I do not and will not understand people that vacation/travel to the same places over and over and over again. There is a great big world out there, why do you wanna to to the Caribbean again, or Cancun again or Disney again or whatever? I don't get it.
@kiki2628 I'm with you. My IL have a time share in South Africa that they've never been to because they trade for two weeks in St. Martin every year, except they go to Grand Cayman every fourth year. They invited us this year, but we can't go due to TTC. #thanksalotZika #firstworldproblems
I don't shower every day in winter because the derm said it's bad for my skin, but really because I hate drying my hair and slightly dirty hair doesn't get static.
It's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most...not where you live, or what you drive, or the price tag on your clothes... There's no dollar sign on a piece of mind, this I've come to know! *ZBB*
@kiwi2628 same!! My parents have a tendency to always go to the same places as well. It drives me crazy, but they obviously love it or they wouldn't keep going back! There are places we've been that I would love to see again, but there's too many others that we haven't been to that are constantly calling our names!
Me: 31 DH: 32 Dating since: 11/17/2001 Married: 9/26/2009 TTC: June 2016
@cdnrunning I take full advantage of having dark hair. It does start feeling gross midway through the second day, particularly if the heat is blasting in midwinter like it always is. I just shower when I get home, wondering if anyone noticed. Haha
It's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most...not where you live, or what you drive, or the price tag on your clothes... There's no dollar sign on a piece of mind, this I've come to know! *ZBB*
I'm actually one of those people...we've been to Hawaii more times than I can count. I just love it there, it's slightly familiar, and it's so relaxing every time we go. I like to travel to other places too but I also am very much a creature of habit!
I think KnottieNumbers in the personhood law thread is just a pro-life troll trying to push an agenda. Joined Feb 9. Three posts, all in that thread. The language is from pro-life arguments. And if you can't see that defining when life begins is just a pretext for criminalizing abortion, you should read more before asking what the problem is.
Me: late 30s | H: early 30s TTC #1 since April 2015 RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016 IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal Polyp removed May 2017 FET May 2017 - BFP! Baby boy born 2/2/18
@eggplantface Yep. Yepppppp. I had half-written up a response and then I said, "Wait a second adirat, you have two warnings, let someone else handle this BS."
@eggplantface She is certainly prolife but I didn't get the sense that she was confused about the bills intentions to criminalize abortions. I got the impression that she just didn't understand how the bills related to infertility treatments. To be honest, had I read the bills without reading the thread first I would have never thought of that myself. However, I think antoto's explanation was pretty clear in how these bills can have "legs" and could impact infertility (even if it's unintentional).... so maybe you are right and she just wanted to stir the pot.
@eggplantface She is certainly prolife but I didn't get the sense that she was confused about the bills intentions to criminalize abortions. I got the impression that she just didn't understand how the bills related to infertility treatments. To be honest, had I read the bills without reading the thread first I would have never thought of that myself. However, I think antoto's explanation was pretty clear in how these bills can have "legs" and could impact infertility (even if it's unintentional).... so maybe you are right and she just wanted to stir the pot.
Yes, I could see that, given the people who wrote it didn't seem to see the implications to infertility either.
Me: late 30s | H: early 30s TTC #1 since April 2015 RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016 IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal Polyp removed May 2017 FET May 2017 - BFP! Baby boy born 2/2/18
@eggplantface She is certainly prolife but I didn't get the sense that she was confused about the bills intentions to criminalize abortions. I got the impression that she just didn't understand how the bills related to infertility treatments. To be honest, had I read the bills without reading the thread first I would have never thought of that myself. However, I think antoto's explanation was pretty clear in how these bills can have "legs" and could impact infertility (even if it's unintentional).... so maybe you are right and she just wanted to stir the pot.
Yes, I could see that, given the people who wrote it didn't seem to see the implications to infertility either.
Ha, you're more generous than I am. I assumed they did, and didn't care. A sizable faction of the Christian Right is opposed to all assisted reproductive technologies and to birth control. Did you guys read the link about the TN legislation to deny paternity to consenting husbands when donor sperm is used? It's that faction. While I hope it's a minority part of the anti-abortion movement, it's sure a vocal minority as the TN legislation makes clear.
adirat said: Did you guys read the link about the TN legislation to deny paternity to consenting husbands when donor sperm is used? It's that faction. While I hope it's a minority part of the anti-abortion movement, it's sure a vocal minority as the TN legislation makes clear.
Wait WUT!? Um no, I didn't read that but I'm about to right now. What the actual F. That is INSANE.
@kiwi2628 I thought the exact same thing until we went on a vacation last year to Staniel Cay, and now I definitely want to go back! Maybe not every year, but every few years. It was amazing, not your usual Caribbean tourist trap. Very secluded, and you get a boat with your rental so you can explore all the nearby cays and sandbars. There is so much to explore there that we didn't even scrape the surface. However, in general, I do agree with you, and we still want to visit a variety of places. That one is just special to us.
My FFFC is I am eating such a healthy lunch today but only because I know I'm having pizza for dinner.
adirat said: Did you guys read the link about the TN legislation to deny paternity to consenting husbands when donor sperm is used? It's that faction. While I hope it's a minority part of the anti-abortion movement, it's sure a vocal minority as the TN legislation makes clear.
Wait WUT!? Um no, I didn't read that but I'm about to right now. What the actual F. That is INSANE.
Yep. It's horrifying. It's so horrifying that I couldn't even laugh at the comical idea that anyone cares about legislating "legitimacy" of babies in 2017!
I'll just note, my husband is Catholic and he has multiple extended family members who believe that all assisted reproductive technology -- IVF, IUI (which they call artificial insemination), donor sperm, donor eggs -- is morally wrong and should be illegal. So to me it isn't a stretch that there would be legislation to do this.
adirat said: Did you guys read the link about the TN legislation to deny paternity to consenting husbands when donor sperm is used? It's that faction. While I hope it's a minority part of the anti-abortion movement, it's sure a vocal minority as the TN legislation makes clear.
Wait WUT!? Um no, I didn't read that but I'm about to right now. What the actual F. That is INSANE.
As I understand it, this particular legislation stems from one legislator's issue with same-sex marriage and parental rights--specifically in the case of a lesbian couple, denying parental rights to the non-carrying mother. Which is just a really horrible and hateful motivation. Of course heterosexual couples are caught in the cross-fire (and likely make up the majority of people affected), but I really hate that this legislator is using ART to push a discriminatory agenda against same-sex couples. Of course she may also hate ART, so this fallout would just be a bonus for her. Regardless, it's absurd.
I wondered if she was a troll before responding. I had like 13 different versions typed out before going with the one I did. I tried to make my language with as little holes for her to twist my words as possible. It's why I didn't get into the whole multiple embryos must be made because reproduction is such a tricky and sometimes inefficient process.
** December BMB Siggy Challenge - Animals in Pools **
Me: 31+ H: 32 TTC Since 11/2015 #1 - MMC 6.5 weeks (2/16); #2 - MC due to cystic hygroma at 20 weeks (10/16); #3 CP (2/17); #4 - Due 12.16.17
Ha, you're more generous than I am. I assumed they did, and didn't care. A sizable faction of the Christian Right is opposed to all assisted reproductive technologies and to birth control. Did you guys read the link about the TN legislation to deny paternity to consenting husbands when donor sperm is used? It's that faction. While I hope it's a minority part of the anti-abortion movement, it's sure a vocal minority as the TN legislation makes clear.
When I was looking for a new insurance plan to cover IUIs I found that zero federal employee plans cover IVF, and I just assumed that men in Congress didn't want federal dollars to go toward "playing god." I also noticed that every plan (even ones that didn't offer IUI coverage so it's a moot point anyway) said all sperm had to be from the husband, not a donor. Sorry, lesbians, no babies for you! So the existence of this faction makes sense. It's not just targeting the gay community, no one should get babies without P in V!
Sidenote: I said "I assumed" because I can't find anything about who gets input when writing the insurance plans for feds. But I would imagine that because federal dollars pay for part of the premiums for federal employees, congress insists on having a say in what those plans cover.
ETA wording
Me: late 30s | H: early 30s TTC #1 since April 2015 RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016 IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal Polyp removed May 2017 FET May 2017 - BFP! Baby boy born 2/2/18
I just ate a king size package of Reeses minis. The package melted, so I threw it in the freezer and it froze as one big chunk. So I'd like to think I just had one Reeses.
** December BMB Siggy Challenge - Animals in Pools **
Me: 31+ H: 32 TTC Since 11/2015 #1 - MMC 6.5 weeks (2/16); #2 - MC due to cystic hygroma at 20 weeks (10/16); #3 CP (2/17); #4 - Due 12.16.17
My FFFC is I am eating such a healthy lunch today but only because I know I'm having pizza for dinner.
Same.
Me: late 30s | H: early 30s TTC #1 since April 2015 RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016 IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal Polyp removed May 2017 FET May 2017 - BFP! Baby boy born 2/2/18
My FFFC is that, even though I would be 100% over the moon ridiculously excited to be KU with either sex, I'm still hoping for a girl. This is, of course, only relevant if I'm lucky enough to get KU at all. I have no idea why, and I know I'd love either sex and just be thrilled to have a healthy take-home baby. I just can't kick the small tinge of wanting a girl.
Ok, I'm ready for my sore, flamed butt. Flame away.
Alright, if we are getting a little bit deeper here, I'll play.
I am terrified that I will end up becoming devastated if this cycle is a fail, because my goal was to have my first child by 30 and this cycle would be my last chance to make that happen.
@lund I've had that discussion with H because we've discussed IVF etc. and we both said we'd pick a boy first, just in case we only end up with one child etc. SO clearly we have some sort of "preference" for a boy, but like you said, I would never be upset or mad or anything negative about a girl.
I feel like some of us know and respect each other too well to flame each other for this stuff @hartmich@Pinky917
@pinky917 I think we've all had timing goals like that. I have no hard feelings about your goal to have your first child by 30; heck, I'm wishing and hoping that it happens for you!
@lund I think people get flamed (mostly on BMBs) when they say things like they wanted a girl so they could put her in pink dresses or a boy so he would play sports... stereotypes that are ridiculous, basically. I think for whatever reason I always just pictured in my mind a tiny little H running around!
@Pinky917 I started TTC in late August, so 13 months before my 30th bday because I wanted to have a baby before my 30th and I wanted to give myself a few months wiggle-room 'in case it didn't happen first try'...well fuck me, right? I totally get it. Now I am here 7 cycles later hoping I am at least pregnant by my 30th birthday.
@Lund@hartmich - I think the difference here is you both recognize that you'd be happy with either. In my experience, the flaming is when someone says they are "disappointed" with a particular sex. Hoping for one outcome is not the same as being disappointed in a different outcome. It's the disappointment that is frustrating. Or in the case of the Feb 17 BMB the woman who was obsessed with the thought of having a particular sex and was obnoxious about it.
** December BMB Siggy Challenge - Animals in Pools **
Me: 31+ H: 32 TTC Since 11/2015 #1 - MMC 6.5 weeks (2/16); #2 - MC due to cystic hygroma at 20 weeks (10/16); #3 CP (2/17); #4 - Due 12.16.17
@Pinky917 I started TTC in late August, so 13 months before my 30th bday because I wanted to have a baby before my 30th and I wanted to give myself a few months wiggle-room 'in case it didn't happen first try'...well fuck me, right? I totally get it. Now I am here 7 cycles later hoping I am at least pregnant by my 30th birthday.
Part of me can't wait for me to have a kid so I can quit my job. I have no excuse to not work right now, but being a SAHM is totally an excuse. Not saying that SAHM isn't working or isn't difficult, it just sounds more appealing than my job some days. I daydream about "growing up" and having the perfectly clean house, and nutritious, made from scratch meals on the dinner room table each night, essentially being "CEO of the family."
But I absolutely would never admit this out loud to people, because I have this persona of loving my job (which I do) and being driven by the high-stress demanding nature of my job. If you were to talk to me in real life "I love working and I could never give up my independence and my individuality. Working would be me/adult time."
** December BMB Siggy Challenge - Animals in Pools **
Me: 31+ H: 32 TTC Since 11/2015 #1 - MMC 6.5 weeks (2/16); #2 - MC due to cystic hygroma at 20 weeks (10/16); #3 CP (2/17); #4 - Due 12.16.17
@Tennis11785 it's not exactly the same but I can't wait for certain "excuses" that become available when you have a kid. This is dumb but h and I have said we will hire someone to clean our house once we have a baby because there's really no reason we can't do it now. I just hate cleaning and will use the excuse that we both work full time and need our evenings and weekends for family time.
@hartmich omg I am with you! I hate cleaning and I am so lazy about it, but right now we could afford a cleaning lady, it just seems too indulgent when I have so much time to clean. Once we have a baby though, BOOM, cleaning ladies, lawn people- all of it!
@swimsister I love that you added the disclaimer! Now I want a drive-by baby-stealer post.
FFFC: After my AMH went up, maybe because of reducing BPA and toiletry chemical exposure, I have gone full crunch. I got a book from the library about essential oils. I got another book from the library about fertility dieting. I got a third book from the library about acupressure points. It's like when I checked out every library book on the shelf about infertility except their selection of crunchy books is really limited.
I am embarrassed but not really that embarrassed.
@sailing_mama@juneroseruby Didn't one of you say a friend used essential oils to conceive? Can you tell me which oils she used? Was it just diffuser or did she make lotion bars?
Goodbye, professional training in program evaluation. Hello baby?
@Hartmich - oh I already have someone come to clean...lol. Depending on our schedule/guests in town/planning on having large number of guests over, it works out to 1-2 a month, so not super regularly. Its wonderful and I love it.
But I know if I become a SAHM, that luxury goes away.
** December BMB Siggy Challenge - Animals in Pools **
Me: 31+ H: 32 TTC Since 11/2015 #1 - MMC 6.5 weeks (2/16); #2 - MC due to cystic hygroma at 20 weeks (10/16); #3 CP (2/17); #4 - Due 12.16.17
Ok then I guess my confession is I would never want to choose the sex of my baby. It was offered to me by my RE to test them and pick a boy this time but the idea just feels gross to me.
@hartmich Yesss! Same here. My DH and I have always talked about hiring someone to clean but because its just the two of us at this point we can't justify it. We also live in an apartment right now so there isn't a ton to even do. I just HATE cleaning the bathroom. If someone could come by and scrub the shower and toilets I would be so happy.
My FFFC- I feel really evil admitting this but I work in a doctors office and sometimes when kids have to get shots/get blood drawn I die laughing because they scream so loud and act like their lives are ending. There are other times when it really breaks my heart but when it's super over the top I can't help but chuckle. I'm sure Karma won't pay me a visit for this at all.
I made a pan of cheesecake brownies last night for our anniversary dessert. I have since eaten half the pan even though I'm on a clean eating "diet" and I have no regrets.
Re: FFFC 2/17/17
Martin every year, except they go to Grand Cayman every fourth year. They invited us this year, but we can't go due to TTC. #thanksalotZika #firstworldproblems
I don't shower every day in winter because the derm said it's bad for my skin, but really because I hate drying my hair and slightly dirty hair doesn't get static.
TTC 9/2016 BFP 12/9/16 EDD 8/21/17 NMC 1/8/16 at 7w6d
TTC 2/2017 BFP 3/6/17 EDD 11/17/17 DS born 11/25/17 via ECS
TTC 12/2018 BFP 6/2/19 EDD 2/12/20 NMC / BO at 7 weeks, low progesterone
TTC 7/2019 BFP 8/21/19 EDD 4/22/20 CP at 5 weeks
TTC 8/19 IUI #1 w/ Clomid + Ovidrel + progesterone BFN, IUI 2 and 3 w/ Letrozole + Ovidrel + progesterone,
IUI 4 Follistim + Ovidrel + progesterone BFP 1/9/20 EDD 9/18/20
AMA, ITP in pregnancy, vWD type II - low Factor VIII, unexplained RPL and secondary infertility
Dating since: 11/17/2001
Married: 9/26/2009
TTC: June 2016
EDD: 5/14/2018
TTC 9/2016 BFP 12/9/16 EDD 8/21/17 NMC 1/8/16 at 7w6d
TTC 2/2017 BFP 3/6/17 EDD 11/17/17 DS born 11/25/17 via ECS
TTC 12/2018 BFP 6/2/19 EDD 2/12/20 NMC / BO at 7 weeks, low progesterone
TTC 7/2019 BFP 8/21/19 EDD 4/22/20 CP at 5 weeks
TTC 8/19 IUI #1 w/ Clomid + Ovidrel + progesterone BFN, IUI 2 and 3 w/ Letrozole + Ovidrel + progesterone,
IUI 4 Follistim + Ovidrel + progesterone BFP 1/9/20 EDD 9/18/20
AMA, ITP in pregnancy, vWD type II - low Factor VIII, unexplained RPL and secondary infertility
TTC #1 since April 2015
RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016
IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN
IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal
Polyp removed May 2017
FET May 2017 - BFP!
Baby boy born 2/2/18
TTC #1 since April 2015
RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016
IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN
IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal
Polyp removed May 2017
FET May 2017 - BFP!
Baby boy born 2/2/18
edit - typo
My FFFC is I am eating such a healthy lunch today but only because I know I'm having pizza for dinner.
Me: 36 DH: 41
I'll just note, my husband is Catholic and he has multiple extended family members who believe that all assisted reproductive technology -- IVF, IUI (which they call artificial insemination), donor sperm, donor eggs -- is morally wrong and should be illegal. So to me it isn't a stretch that there would be legislation to do this.
** December BMB Siggy Challenge - Animals in Pools **
Me: 31+ H: 32
TTC Since 11/2015
#1 - MMC 6.5 weeks (2/16); #2 - MC due to cystic hygroma at 20 weeks (10/16); #3 CP (2/17); #4 - Due 12.16.17
Sidenote: I said "I assumed" because I can't find anything about who gets input when writing the insurance plans for feds. But I would imagine that because federal dollars pay for part of the premiums for federal employees, congress insists on having a say in what those plans cover.
ETA wording
TTC #1 since April 2015
RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016
IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN
IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal
Polyp removed May 2017
FET May 2017 - BFP!
Baby boy born 2/2/18
** December BMB Siggy Challenge - Animals in Pools **
Me: 31+ H: 32
TTC Since 11/2015
#1 - MMC 6.5 weeks (2/16); #2 - MC due to cystic hygroma at 20 weeks (10/16); #3 CP (2/17); #4 - Due 12.16.17
TTC #1 since April 2015
RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016
IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN
IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal
Polyp removed May 2017
FET May 2017 - BFP!
Baby boy born 2/2/18
My FFFC is that, even though I would be 100% over the moon ridiculously excited to be KU with either sex, I'm still hoping for a girl. This is, of course, only relevant if I'm lucky enough to get KU at all. I have no idea why, and I know I'd love either sex and just be thrilled to have a healthy take-home baby. I just can't kick the small tinge of wanting a girl.
Ok, I'm ready for my sore, flamed butt. Flame away.
Alright, if we are getting a little bit deeper here, I'll play.
I am terrified that I will end up becoming devastated if this cycle is a fail, because my goal was to have my first child by 30 and this cycle would be my last chance to make that happen.
Married 9/2015
TTC #1 6/2016
Dx Unexplained IF 6/2017
Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI 7/2017 - Cancelled (overstimulated)
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI #1 - BFN
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI #2 -BFN
Letrozole + Ovidrel + IUI#3 - BFP! EDD July 15 2018
Baby Girl H - July 22 2018
@pinky917 I think we've all had timing goals like that. I have no hard feelings about your goal to have your first child by 30; heck, I'm wishing and hoping that it happens for you!
** December BMB Siggy Challenge - Animals in Pools **
Me: 31+ H: 32
TTC Since 11/2015
#1 - MMC 6.5 weeks (2/16); #2 - MC due to cystic hygroma at 20 weeks (10/16); #3 CP (2/17); #4 - Due 12.16.17
Part of me can't wait for me to have a kid so I can quit my job. I have no excuse to not work right now, but being a SAHM is totally an excuse. Not saying that SAHM isn't working or isn't difficult, it just sounds more appealing than my job some days. I daydream about "growing up" and having the perfectly clean house, and nutritious, made from scratch meals on the dinner room table each night, essentially being "CEO of the family."
But I absolutely would never admit this out loud to people, because I have this persona of loving my job (which I do) and being driven by the high-stress demanding nature of my job. If you were to talk to me in real life "I love working and I could never give up my independence and my individuality. Working would be me/adult time."
** December BMB Siggy Challenge - Animals in Pools **
Me: 31+ H: 32
TTC Since 11/2015
#1 - MMC 6.5 weeks (2/16); #2 - MC due to cystic hygroma at 20 weeks (10/16); #3 CP (2/17); #4 - Due 12.16.17
And then I realized that's how crazy people who steal babies think.....
Disclaimer for newer ppl to the community: I used to be a lot more active, I promise I'm not a rando baby stealer.
FFFC: After my AMH went up, maybe because of reducing BPA and toiletry chemical exposure, I have gone full crunch. I got a book from the library about essential oils. I got another book from the library about fertility dieting. I got a third book from the library about acupressure points. It's like when I checked out every library book on the shelf about infertility except their selection of crunchy books is really limited.
I am embarrassed but not really that embarrassed.
@sailing_mama @juneroseruby Didn't one of you say a friend used essential oils to conceive? Can you tell me which oils she used? Was it just diffuser or did she make lotion bars?
Goodbye, professional training in program evaluation. Hello baby?
But I know if I become a SAHM, that luxury goes away.
** December BMB Siggy Challenge - Animals in Pools **
Me: 31+ H: 32
TTC Since 11/2015
#1 - MMC 6.5 weeks (2/16); #2 - MC due to cystic hygroma at 20 weeks (10/16); #3 CP (2/17); #4 - Due 12.16.17
My FFFC-
I feel really evil admitting this but I work in a doctors office and sometimes when kids have to get shots/get blood drawn I die laughing because they scream so loud and act like their lives are ending. There are other times when it really breaks my heart but when it's super over the top I can't help but chuckle. I'm sure Karma won't pay me a visit for this at all.
DS1: 9.6.12**DS2: 12.22.14
CP1: 6/17 @4w4d
CP2: 9/17 @4w3d
CP3: 2/18 @5w
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