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Who has had endometrial scratching?

We've decided to add scratching to my next FET protocol, and it'll take place at my baseline ultrasound appointment next week. Just wondering if the pain is tolerable, and if I will feel ok enough to go to work after.

Any info appreciated! : )
Me: 32, Hubs: 36
Married: September 2013
TTC since April 2014, Dx: MFI
DH started Clomid Oct 2015
April-June 2016- 3 IUIs: All BFN
July 2016- IVF #1: 16 eggs ->1 PGS-normal embryo
Sept 2016- single FET #1: BFN
Nov 2016- IVF #2 16 eggs -> 3 PGS-normal embryos
Jan 2017- single FET #2: BFN
Feb 2017- endometrial scratch
March 2017- FET #3 (double transfer): BFP!
   Beta #1: 386 (9dp5dt), Beta #2: 1,960 (12dp5dt)
   Pregnant with: Triplets Twins Singleton
   It's a GIRL! :)
   EDD: November 16, 2017
   Dx w/ preeclampsia: Updated delivery date: 10/4/17
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Re: Who has had endometrial scratching?

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    Hello! I had it twice. It's better to take some advil (or aleve) before. I had bad cramps for a minute or 2 after, then it slowly decreased for about 30 min. I guess it's different for everybody, but I enjoyed sitting down for a little while before going back to work.

    The procedure is not that bad and not too long, maybe 2 min.

    Good luck for your next transfer! :)
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    It's not pleasant but it's tolerable. I went back to work afterward but took about a half hour to myself just in case.
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    edited February 2017
    I had the biopsy, twice, which is basically the same thing. It was very very painful for me, but the pain only lasted about 20 seconds (in the moment it was rough though). I was fine to go to work after- the pain didnt last. 

    TW: For what its worth, I am absolutely convinced it's what allowed me to conceive after failed FET.
    ***TW***
    DH & I both 34.
    8/16: IVF, antagonist protocol 
    21 eggs | 9 blasts | 7 normal through PGS
    10/16: FET  = BFN  :(
    12/16: Surprise natural BFP 
    Beta 1: 177 | Beta 2: 483 | Beta 3: 8,755 | Beta 4: 39,007. Baby born 9/5/2017

    NOW on sibling journey. 
    2/20: FET = BFN :(
    4/20: Surprise COVID BFP

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    Hello, just wondering about the timing of all of your scratches.  Thanks!
    About me:
    Married 6/18/16 (Me 42, DH 44), TTC #2
    ***TW***
    Natural BFP 8/10/16 --> mc our NIPT-normal little girl at 11w5d on 10/1/16 :(
    As of 12/2016:  AMH 1.42, FSH 6.1, AFC ~10
    Self-benched Nov-Dec 2016 for
    IVF #1 Jan-Feb 2017 (OCP, testosterone primed antagonist w/HGH - ER 2/2/17 - 12R, 7M ICSI'd, 3F, 0B)
    IVF #2 Mar-Apr 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 4/8/17 - 10R, 8M, 8F, 5B, 1 PGS normal)
    IVF #3 May-Jun 2017 (testosterone primed agonist/luteal lupron w/HGH - ER 6/4/17 - 14R, 5F, 3B, 0 normal)
    **New RE**
    IVF #4 Sept 2017 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 9/28/17 - 33R, 18F, 10B, 4 PGS normals!)
    FET #1 (medicated) of one PGS normal 4AA XX 11/2/17 - Beta #1 11/11/17 (153), Beta #2 11/13/17 (324), mc at 5w1d on 11/19/17 :(
    IVF #5 Dec 2017 - Insemination of 9 frozen eggs from 2012 (8F, 1B, 0 normal)
    Jan 2018 - Natural cycle ERA (normal/receptive) & stimming for
    IVF #6 Jan-Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/3/18 - 17R, 6M, 4F, 0 blasts)
    IVF #7 Feb 2018 (natural start microdose lupron flare w/HGH - ER 2/26/18 - 19R, 9M, 9F, 4B, 2 PGS normals)
    FET #2 Apr 2018 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 4AA- XX 4/5/18 - Beta #1 4/14/18 (67), Beta #2 4/16/18 (231)
    Rainbow baby girl born 12/16/2018 (via c-section, induced at 39 weeks)

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    TFAS!
    FET #3 Dec 2019 (natural cycle w/o trigger, w/P4 support) of one PGS normal 3BB XY 12/16/19 - Beta #1 12/24/19 (139), Beta #2 12/27/19 (482)

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    @artemis618 I took a full cycle off for my scratch/biopsy cycle. Did that twice, so no transfer during those months.
    ***TW***
    DH & I both 34.
    8/16: IVF, antagonist protocol 
    21 eggs | 9 blasts | 7 normal through PGS
    10/16: FET  = BFN  :(
    12/16: Surprise natural BFP 
    Beta 1: 177 | Beta 2: 483 | Beta 3: 8,755 | Beta 4: 39,007. Baby born 9/5/2017

    NOW on sibling journey. 
    2/20: FET = BFN :(
    4/20: Surprise COVID BFP

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    My RE wants me to get an endometrial biopsy in the follicular phase (CD 5 - 12) to 'rule out endometritis'.  I had a lining measurement that was slightly low, but it could easily have been just the ultrasound operator that day (those ultrasound measurements are done pretty hastily and are variable, as we all know).

    I think it's a pretty sketchy call... I have no STDs and was negative on STD testing as well, and I kind of suspect she wanted to drum up a reason to do (and bill for) the procedure.

    But I'm going along with it just in case it might help... Stories like that of @omarismyhomeboy make me wonder if it might help. 

    @omarismyhomeboy , did you conceive that very cycle, or the next cycle?

    The plan is for me to begin OCP suppression for IVF the cycle after the biopsy cycle... So I'd hate to be missing out on the very cycle that I might have improved chances...


    Me - 35 (DH - 33). 
    TTC since May 2015.
    Saw RE in July 2016.
    11/16: IUI #1=  BFN.
    1/17: IUI #2 = BFN.
    5/17: IVF #1. 'long lupron' protocol. E2 = 4800, 'freeze-all', 8R, 7M, 4F, 4B.
    8/17: FET #1.
    Thus far - 'unexplained'.
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    @notamyrtle I had two biopsies: one in October, and one in November. I went off all meds in December to take a break because our lab was closed. I conceived that month. So, basically, the next month. 
    ***TW***
    DH & I both 34.
    8/16: IVF, antagonist protocol 
    21 eggs | 9 blasts | 7 normal through PGS
    10/16: FET  = BFN  :(
    12/16: Surprise natural BFP 
    Beta 1: 177 | Beta 2: 483 | Beta 3: 8,755 | Beta 4: 39,007. Baby born 9/5/2017

    NOW on sibling journey. 
    2/20: FET = BFN :(
    4/20: Surprise COVID BFP

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    Joslynj11Joslynj11 member
    edited February 2017
    I had one performed after BFN #1. I don't think the pain is too terrible but you'll definitely feel it. If you have had a HSG or anything like that it is definately a lot easier in my opinion :) 
    Me: 29 DH:38
    First RE Consult 3/9/2016
    IVF ER 5/5/2016
    23 eggs retrieved; 15 mature; 8 developed to embryos; 6 frozen day 5; 2 frozen day 6
    Transfer canceled OHSS
    FET #1 6/2/2016 transferred 2 embryos
    Beta #1 6/15/2016 BFN
    FET #2 8/1/2016 transferred last 2 embryos (lost 4 in the thaw)
    Beta #1 8/12/16 BFN
    IVF #2: Started stims 12/2 
    ER #2 12/14/2016; 16 follies retrieved, 8 fertilized to day 1, 4 frozen day 5, and 1 frozen day 6
    Praying my frosties are strong through the next thaw FX
    FET # 3 2/07/2017 2 embabies thawed 2 embabies transferred
    2/14/2017 *TW* First ever BFP
    Beta #1 2/20/2017 277 Beta #2 2/23/2017 8,945...did I hear you right!
    3/10/2017 One beating heart HR 168!! So very happy
    3/10/2017 Official graduate from Jones Institute for Reproductive Health!! Couldn't help but cry
    6/8/2017 Anatomy Scan proves ITS A GIRL! 
    10/30/17 An angel was Born; Riley Charlize 7:50 AM my heart is so full
    *Praying that 3 is our charm*


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    We are looking into doing an ERA for our next cycle after our failed fet in Jan.  How is the scratch different from an ERA?
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    So, had a the scratch on Tuesday. It was quite painful, but quick.

    I've had light bleeding/spotting ever since. Assuming that is normal?
    Me: 32, Hubs: 36
    Married: September 2013
    TTC since April 2014, Dx: MFI
    DH started Clomid Oct 2015
    April-June 2016- 3 IUIs: All BFN
    July 2016- IVF #1: 16 eggs ->1 PGS-normal embryo
    Sept 2016- single FET #1: BFN
    Nov 2016- IVF #2 16 eggs -> 3 PGS-normal embryos
    Jan 2017- single FET #2: BFN
    Feb 2017- endometrial scratch
    March 2017- FET #3 (double transfer): BFP!
       Beta #1: 386 (9dp5dt), Beta #2: 1,960 (12dp5dt)
       Pregnant with: Triplets Twins Singleton
       It's a GIRL! :)
       EDD: November 16, 2017
       Dx w/ preeclampsia: Updated delivery date: 10/4/17
    <3 Hazel Summerlyn <3
    Find me on the IG

    BabyFruit Ticker
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    I'm debating about getting the scratch too ..I had it once before and it was painful ...I just had the sonohystogram procedure done the other week which also sucked and was painful ...I'm really leaning towards not doing the scratch ...how much shit must we continually put our bodies through ?! BUT if anyone is really convinced the scratch is essential please tell me ! :)
    Me: 33, DH: 40
    July 2016: IVF #1 (froze embryos)
    Aug. 2016: Hysteroscopy to remove a few polyps & Laparoscopy
    Oct. 2016: FET #1 BFN
    Nov. 2016: FET #2 BFP (ended in CP)
    March 2017: IVF #2 Fresh Transfer of 2 Blasts = BFP!!! (EDD: 11/27/17)
    Froze 5 Blasts
    DS born on 11/2/17!!!  
    Back to try for Baby #2 :)


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    @AlexCost
    Upon hearing the scratch can increase implantation up to 70%, it was a no-brainer for me. Despite the pain, I'm glad I did it. 
    Me: 32, Hubs: 36
    Married: September 2013
    TTC since April 2014, Dx: MFI
    DH started Clomid Oct 2015
    April-June 2016- 3 IUIs: All BFN
    July 2016- IVF #1: 16 eggs ->1 PGS-normal embryo
    Sept 2016- single FET #1: BFN
    Nov 2016- IVF #2 16 eggs -> 3 PGS-normal embryos
    Jan 2017- single FET #2: BFN
    Feb 2017- endometrial scratch
    March 2017- FET #3 (double transfer): BFP!
       Beta #1: 386 (9dp5dt), Beta #2: 1,960 (12dp5dt)
       Pregnant with: Triplets Twins Singleton
       It's a GIRL! :)
       EDD: November 16, 2017
       Dx w/ preeclampsia: Updated delivery date: 10/4/17
    <3 Hazel Summerlyn <3
    Find me on the IG

    BabyFruit Ticker
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    *TW*

    @AlexCost I hated- HATED- the scratch/biopsy. I nearly passed out doing my second one! That being said, I conceived the very next cycle, naturally, without trying. And had never had a BFP in my life, not even a chemical with PGS embryos. I'm convinced of its efficacy- though of course results can vary by person. 
    ***TW***
    DH & I both 34.
    8/16: IVF, antagonist protocol 
    21 eggs | 9 blasts | 7 normal through PGS
    10/16: FET  = BFN  :(
    12/16: Surprise natural BFP 
    Beta 1: 177 | Beta 2: 483 | Beta 3: 8,755 | Beta 4: 39,007. Baby born 9/5/2017

    NOW on sibling journey. 
    2/20: FET = BFN :(
    4/20: Surprise COVID BFP

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    So @omarismyhomeboy is a scratch and a biopsy (era) the same thing?
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    @jodes727 I believe they feel similar, but they're a tad different.

    @omarismyhomeboy that makes me wonder if clinics should be doing scratching earlier on. Like with your first IUI.
    Me: 32, Hubs: 36
    Married: September 2013
    TTC since April 2014, Dx: MFI
    DH started Clomid Oct 2015
    April-June 2016- 3 IUIs: All BFN
    July 2016- IVF #1: 16 eggs ->1 PGS-normal embryo
    Sept 2016- single FET #1: BFN
    Nov 2016- IVF #2 16 eggs -> 3 PGS-normal embryos
    Jan 2017- single FET #2: BFN
    Feb 2017- endometrial scratch
    March 2017- FET #3 (double transfer): BFP!
       Beta #1: 386 (9dp5dt), Beta #2: 1,960 (12dp5dt)
       Pregnant with: Triplets Twins Singleton
       It's a GIRL! :)
       EDD: November 16, 2017
       Dx w/ preeclampsia: Updated delivery date: 10/4/17
    <3 Hazel Summerlyn <3
    Find me on the IG

    BabyFruit Ticker
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    @jodes727 from what I understand the procedure is quite similar but they have to remove more material in a biopsy since they have to send it off to the lab. 
    @LeFemmeViolette I know, I have thought of that too. Obviously everyone is different, but I think a scratch before IUI would have helped me without necessarily having to go through IVF. Who knows!
    ***TW***
    DH & I both 34.
    8/16: IVF, antagonist protocol 
    21 eggs | 9 blasts | 7 normal through PGS
    10/16: FET  = BFN  :(
    12/16: Surprise natural BFP 
    Beta 1: 177 | Beta 2: 483 | Beta 3: 8,755 | Beta 4: 39,007. Baby born 9/5/2017

    NOW on sibling journey. 
    2/20: FET = BFN :(
    4/20: Surprise COVID BFP

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    Hmmmm my clinic says a scratch would eat up 2 cycles. 1 to scratch and then the one afterwards to wait for test results. And they don't seem to be proponents. I wonder why???? It seems like everyone should have it? But if it's most successful the following cycle then they prevent that from happening. Also the scratch cycle is medicated. Anyone experience this??
    Siggy Warning--------


    CP #1- due April 2017 lost 5.5 weeks
    cp #2- due May 2017 lost at 4.5 weeks
    iUI #1- BFN
    IUI #2-BFN
    IVF#1- transfer 2- BFP! Due October 2017 c/p#3 lost at 3.5 weeks
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