This is Us Discussion - "I Call Marriage" 2/7

bumpybump · February 2017

***Warning: This discussion will contain spoilers. If you have not watched this episode, you may not want to continue reading.***

Kevin & Sophie - He cheated! Would you have met him and/or give him another chance?

Toby - Coming to the camp, good or bad idea?

Randall - His change at work, do you think it’s a by product of William coming into his life? What do you think is wrong with his hand?

Jack & Rebecca - Do you think things were "rocky?" The surprise from Jack, what are your thoughts?

Duke - What’s your prediction going forward?

Other thoughts during this episode?

bumpybump · February 2017

Kevin & Sophie - He cheated! Would you have met him and/or give him another chance? It's hard to put myself in her shoes. I think she still has feelings for him so I don't blame her for meeting with him. I'm always concerned about relationships that end and then come back together but who knows what'll happen. I'm of course hopeful for them.

Toby - Coming to the camp, good or bad idea? I initially thought it was a bad idea for him to have came. He was making Kate mad by being there. But then the reason he came, the ring, that was too sweet!

Randall - His change at work, do you think it’s a by product of William coming into his life? What do you think is wrong with his hand? It appears that Randall's focus at work has been shifted away some. I can't believe it's only due to William coming into his life. Maybe things were going down a bit before William came in. I think Randall might be having some form of panic attack that shows through his hands (I don't know much about panic attacks though).

Jack & Rebecca - Do you think things were "rocky?" The surprise from Jack, what are your thoughts? I think things were just as they are for most marriages. They had lost some luster. I find myself watching Jack and the things he does and getting envious of the things he does as a husband for Rebecca. The surprise was no different. I thought it was so sweet and seemed to have perfect timing.

Duke - What’s your prediction going forward? I REALLY hope Kate is going to the cabin to tell him to leave her alone!

Other thoughts during this episode? I think Kevin does have issues with Miguel and you saw that with his conversations with Sophie. We now know that Rebecca and Miguel have been married for over 12 years.

SpotConlon · February 2017

Kevin & Sophie - He cheated! Would you have met him and/or give him another chance?
-I want to know more about what their relationship was like. Cheating is definitely no bueno, but it's been such a long time, I'd want to know what was going on.

Toby - Coming to the camp, good or bad idea?
-I'm not big on surprises, so I understood Kate's frustration. Especially since she's in this zone where she's working on herself, Toby is a reminder of the real world. Toby means well, but I'm not sure this was the right time/place.

Randall - His change at work, do you think it’s a by product of William coming into his life? What do you think is wrong with his hand?
-I think Randall is going to have to make some more changes in his life. He seems like the sort of guy that played by the rules and always put in 110% at work, but is now figuring out how to balance family life, too. (BTW, I've been working my way through The People vs. OJ Simpson and I'm really enjoying Sterling K. Brown in it. He's making me like Randall more).

Jack & Rebecca - Do you think things were "rocky?" The surprise from Jack, what are your thoughts?
-I think things were in a rut like what happens in long term relationships. It's clear though that they are both grateful for each other. Jack's surprise was sweet if a bit corny, lol. It was probably a good reminder of how far they'd come.

Duke - What’s your prediction going forward?
-Ugh, this motherfucker. Does anyone ever come on this strong in real life? What is his deal? I'm sure Kate is going to make some bad decisions with him.

Other thoughts during this episode?
I find Miguel to have a punchable face. That's all.

szwill86 · February 2017

@bumpybump @SpotConlon I agree with everything you both said, so I won't post a long post with repeat responses. The only extra thing I have to add is that if the Big 3 are 30 and Kevin and Sophie were together for 12? years, they got married super young, like pre-Manny, so maybe Kevin's sudden fame went to his head too quickly hence the cheating. Also- this was the first episode I didn't cry in!

PinkPrincessPiper · February 2017

I also don't want to repeat a long post, but I agree with most everything that's been said (including this was the first episode I didn't cry too @szwill86). I think you're dead on about Kevin & Sophie, being pre-Manny & the fame broke them up.

I think Randall's work problem is a direct result of William being in his life, as it would be out of character for him to not be on point otherwise. William's death is going to hard on him & the family. @SpotConlon I just finished the OJ show, and Sterling was brilliant! He gets more involved each episode.

Can I just say how much I love Toby?! He is truly in love with Kate, and I think he had good intentions, but she needs to focus on herself. @bumpybump Wasn't the ring sweet?! Duke is toxic. Hopefully she's going in there to tell him what an awesome guy Toby is (like Rebecca did with her bandmate about Jack).

I also find Miguel to have a punchable face. Can't wait to find out how they ended up together.

bumpybump · February 2017

szwill86 said:

@bumpybump @SpotConlon I agree with everything you both said, so I won't post a long post with repeat responses. The only extra thing I have to add is that if the Big 3 are 30 and Kevin and Sophie were together for 12? years, they got married super young, like pre-Manny, so maybe Kevin's sudden fame went to his head too quickly hence the cheating. Also- this was the first episode I didn't cry in!

The Big 3 celebrated their 36th birthday in the first episode. But probably still married "young."

NatSprat0703 · February 2017

Kevin & Sophie - He cheated! Would you have met him and/or give him another chance?
Hmmm that's a tough one. I probably would have met him. Not sure about giving him another chance though. But so many years have gone by, and people change. It seems like she still has feelings for him. I hope they get together, because I've not seen him act like that or have feelings that strong for anyone else!

Toby - Coming to the camp, good or bad idea?
Also mixed on this one. His intentions were really sweet, but I feel like he should have stayed away. Or at least asked her if she wanted him to visit. But I'm glad he met Duke because he knows he kinda needs to look out for him now.

Randall - His change at work, do you think it’s a by product of William coming into his life? What do you think is wrong with his hand?
I do think so. Before William, Randall was 150% work. William has helped him see the value of life and relationships and how the ones we love can be gone sooner than we think or hope. I'm dreading the episode when William dies. I'm going to be hysterical. I have no clue what is wrong with his hand. Tremors of some sort I'd assume.

Jack & Rebecca - Do you think things were "rocky?" The surprise from Jack, what are your thoughts?
I would not use the term rocky. I would say they hit a norma
l low point that all marriages have. Not rocky to the point of cheating, but just a low that you have to work towards to bring back up. Jack's surprise was so sweet. I agree with @bumpybump that I find myself getting kinda jealous of all the sweet things Jack says and does.

Duke - What’s your prediction going forward?
Gahhh this dude pisses me off!! I screamed at the TV when she was walking towards his cabin. She better be going just to tell him to back the hell off!!

Other thoughts during this episode?
First episode I didn't cry in! Woop, go meee!!

szwill86 · February 2017

@bumpybump thanks for clarifying their age. For some reason I thought Kate's cake in the first 1/2 episode said 30 on it. Regardless, 24 is still young to be married (IMO).

sgrant432 · February 2017

I agree with everyone else's assessments. I would add that I do think Randall is struggling due to William coming into his life to the point he should take a leave of absence. His boss can see something is up and that's why he has taken half of his accounts.

I like Kevin and Sophie and glad she showed up. Sounds like they were just very young and immature when they got married and divorced. They've grown and changed and she must still feel something for him or she wouldn't have met him.

and_peggy · February 2017

Kevin & Sophie - He cheated! Would you have met him and/or give him another chance?
It's clear that she still had some feeling for him or else she wouldn't have met him the second time. I'm not sure the context of their previous relationship so it's hard to say what I would do. But I would definitely be curious.

Toby - Coming to the camp, good or bad idea?
There were pros and cons to the situation. His heart is in the right place and he really loves Kate but Kate seems to do everything she can to push people away. So maybe he can find someone better.

Randall - His change at work, do you think it’s a by product of William coming into his life? What do you think is wrong with his hand?
Definitely think the issues are related to William and just the impending deterioration of Williams health but I don't think that's the only thing going on there. I think maybe he's dealing with stress tremors.

Jack & Rebecca - Do you think things were "rocky?" The surprise from Jack, what are your thoughts?
I know jack has his issues but I think he really tries to show Rebecca how much he loves her and wants to make their marriage last. The more I see from Rebecca, the more I dislike. I have a growing suspicion that Rebecca and Miguel had an affair before jack died.

Duke - What’s your prediction about duke?
I wasn't a fan originally but I actually think he's going to get more to the core of what Kate is really struggling with, that Toby ever could. I don't necessarily want them to be together but I do think he's an essential part of Kate unraveling and really letting go of whatever is killing her inside.

Other thoughts during this episode?

bumpybump · February 2017

@aehogan90 I like your assessment of Duke's role and say I'd agree.

hupp0013 · February 2017

Kevin & Sophie - He cheated! Would you have met him and/or give him another chance?

I don't know about giving him another chance. I don't blame her for meeting up with him necessarily. I do find it a little weird that if she is in fact dating someone nice, why she would meet up with him since it is obvious that he wants a romantic relationship with her.

Toby - Coming to the camp, good or bad idea?

I think it is both. I like that he wanted to give her the ring and that he felt like he needed to be with her because he is scared about having another heart attack. I didn't like that he fell back on old habits and didn't take it seriously when he did say that he was staying at the camp.

Randall - His change at work, do you think it’s a by product of William coming into his life? What do you think is wrong with his hand?

Yes, I think it is a by product of William coming back into his life. I think that family and the importance of family are lessons that he needs right now. I think he is having panic attacks, although initially I was scared that he was developing some disease like Parkinson's and just they hadn't shown him having any episodes prior to this.

Jack & Rebecca - Do you think things were "rocky?" The surprise from Jack, what are your thoughts?

I think things were a part of the normal progression when you have been married a lot by time. I did think the surprise was really sweet, if unrealistic. I was not particularly happy with Rebecca telling him that she wanted to go on tour with the guy that obviously (to us at least) has a thing for her and is trying to undermine their relationship.

Duke - What’s your prediction going forward?

I think Kate is going to torpedo her life (what seems to be a habit of hers,) with Duke. I hope it helps her get a place where she is able to stop sabatoging herself and get to a place where she can cope and heal from all the issues that have plagued her for her whole life. That doesn't make me happy about the situation though. I like Toby and the fact that he appears to make Kate happy.

Other thoughts during this episode?
I didn't like that Randall wasn't telling his wife what was going on. I felt like they had better communication together than that.
Not on this episode, but I also read a theory about how Jack died and I am irrationally upset about it and I hope that it isn't actually the case. Does anyone think we will find out this season how Jack dies? Or do you think they will drag it out a little longer? I know I have read that they have already renewed it for 2 more seasons, so I was just wondering what others thought about that.

littlebug2010 · February 2017

Kevin & Sophie - He cheated! Would you have met him and/or give him another chance?
I think its super sweet that she seems to be giving him a second chance. They were married so young (they got divocred around 24!) and I think they might have a good chance if they decided to try again.

Toby - Coming to the camp, good or bad idea?
I think the ring was so sweet, but I do feel like he is so attached! I think she went to the camp to get some breathing room, and him showing up is not helping.

Randall - His change at work, do you think it’s a by product of William coming into his life? What do you think is wrong with his hand? I think its a complete by product of William coming into his life. I think for once he is gaining some perspective, and learning that he needs to put family first. I think his hand might just be because he is stressing out and not knowing how to deal with the change.

Jack & Rebecca - Do you think things were "rocky?" The surprise from Jack, what are your thoughts?
I think it was so sweet. Jack seems to be the ideal man, and I love that he tries so hard for her all the time. She can drive me nuts, because she doesn't seem to see it, and that makes me sad for Jack.

Duke - What’s your prediction going forward? I just hope that she is going there to tell him to back off, but I dont think thats the case. I do think that she might need to have Duke in her life to get her to open up, but I dont want him to get in the way of her and Toby.

Other thoughts during this episode?

NYTino24 · February 2017

I keep getting beckoned back by the US and clothing / accessories threads, so I hope you guys don't mind me joining in.

Kevin & Sophie - He cheated! Would you have met him and/or give him another chance?

Well, she doesn't seem to know what a player he has been since... so I think she will. I believe once a cheater always a cheater. He doesn't seem to put much time or effort into any relationship.

Toby - Coming to the camp, good or bad idea?

Toby is my favorite. He can do no wrong in my eyes!

Randall - His change at work, do you think it’s a by product of William coming into his life? What do you think is wrong with his hand?

I think William has grounded Randall. He sees that family is more important than work now, and he's finally feeling connected to a family member. I don't know about the hand...

Jack & Rebecca - Do you think things were "rocky?" The surprise from Jack, what are your thoughts?

I don't get it. They seem great except for that one episode with Jack drinking. The tour part obviously bothers him, especially with her ex being involved. I think the ex is a jerk. Love those lights and the romanticism of going back to their old place.

Duke - What’s your prediction going forward?

He's a trouble maker and boosts Kate's confidence. However, the relationship between Kate & Toby will only get stronger.

Other thoughts during this episode?

I don't like Miguel.

bumpybump · February 2017

Curious, did anyone else start to think about "little things" things your husband might do for you that you take for granted? Like the coffee Miguel made for Shelley or the water Jack always puts on Rebecca's night stand after her shows?

NYTino24 · February 2017

Actually, @bumpybump, I did think about that. It's a good point from Miguel, but I don't think that's a reason to divorce. I feel like more of the story will be revealed. It does seem that both Jack and Miguel are details guys, and maybe that's what attracts Rebecca to Miguel. IRL my hubby is a detail guy too. It's not usually that way, in my experience.

DDRGirlie · February 2017

I just saw an article online that the actor playing Toby wears a fat suit! I couldn't believe it. ill edit the post if i can find the link again.

Jack reminds me of my own husband. He probably wouldn't rent out our old apartment and leave lit candles in it until he returned but! I still consider myself a very lucky girl. I really hope Rebecca doesn't cheat on him with Miguel. MIguel is skeevy and annoying.

Duke on the other hand, needs to go away. He is so negative to everyone at a place that is supposed to be helping people! I really hope that she's going to his cabin to show off her ring.

I think between the pressure of his job, his father slowly dying and his stress of his daughters getting hurt is taking a toll on him. We will see him get sick himself out of stress, hence the shaky hands.

bumpybump · February 2017

@DDRGirlie yeah, we discussed the fat suit a couple weeks ago

NatSprat0703 · February 2017

Ok I am clearly the slowest person on the freaking planet. I just put together that the Miguel in the flashbacks is Rebecca's current husband. Wow...I feel so dumb right now!!!!
@bumpybump It definitely made me think about stuff DH does for me that I take for granted. It really is sometimes the littlest things that mean the most that we tend to forget about and/or take for granted.
@hupp0013 @littlebug2010 I will say that time and age can make all the difference in the world for a relationship. DH and I got married when we were young. He was 22 and I was 21. We were high school sweethearts, the whole shebang. Got divorced just after a year of marriage (not due to cheating though). Somehow we rekindled things down the road and got back together. Got remarried when we were 28/27, and things are SOOOO different this time around!

littlebug2010 · February 2017

@NatSprat0703 I can totally agree. DH and I are also high school sweethearts, and got married at 22 and 24 (we waited for him to graduate college, to ensure the school kept his financial aid). We lived together for two years before that, and I dont know if we would have survived marriage if we hadnt lived together, and made sure to work on our relationship as adults, and not just kids/college kids.

PinkPrincessPiper · February 2017

Going Behind the Scenes of This Is Us With the Adorable Cast

https://www.eonline.com/photos/20156/going-behind-the-scenes-of-this-is-us-with-the-adorable-cast

I hope this link works. Here are some fun behind the scenes photos of the cast!

NYTino24 · February 2017

PinkPrincessPiper · February 2017

Milo is hot. Like hottt hot. Maybe it's just how romantic Jack's character is...

jsaffer01 · February 2017

I agree with a lot of what people are saying during this episode. This is the first time we actually saw Kevin be real, and I hope things go further with him and Sophie. I love Randall, I've always loved Sterling esp when he was in army wives. I hope the tremors is just stress, stress about William, about his job. I love how real Toby is with Kate. I agree he shouldn't have visited Kate, and let her do her thing. But he just loves her so much! Duke is a game changer, and I'm not sure where his part is going to take Kates character. Oh Jack, I love me some Jack. I want to be married to Jack, he is the most selfless man I can think of. The things he does, that little getaway adorable, and thoughtful. I want my husband to be Jack! I don't like Miguel, this is the second episode in a row I didn't cry. (Maybe my hormones are going back to normal). I am not looking forward to the episode we say good bye to William, I really like him. And waterworks will be flowing then!

DDRGirlie · February 2017

Yeah i'm slow to the game here. I binge watched This Is Us last weekend. My husband came home from work and freaked out that i had been crying all day. Damn show.

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