I think you are on to something though pointing out BLM. I think POC are going to be most at risk and I need to get out more to use my whiteness and make sure I'm being a good ally.
The other thing I might do today is figure out how to pressure congress to confirm Garland as the new justice. Letting them stall and handing an appointment to Trump is a huge mistake.
My BFF just posted this article with some proactive thoughts for moving forward. I found it marginally improved my mood to think about what I can do to help.
My BFF just posted this article with some proactive thoughts for moving forward. I found it marginally improved my mood to think about what I can do to help.
@ohstars you are on the right track!!! POCs need all the white allies we can get. Those who are close minded have proven they have no intention to listen to us and have made up their minds about who they think we are.
White allies will make the difference. I go to a very diverse church in Harlem and it has been really heartwarming to watch my friends from Kentucky, Tennessee, and Ohio try to explain things to their friends and family. They will have much more of a positive impact and potential for change on their families than I ever will.
Me: 36, H: 37 FTM, 2 Furbabies married 03/17/07 lived in Houston, Austin, Los Angeles and NYC due: 2/15/17
Yeah, I spent the better part of this morning crying and then being pissed off. I still can't wrap my brain around what has happened. The American population has truly failed me.
The ladies from my previous BMB are talking about opening a commune. It used to be a joke but the past 12 hours have suddenly tremendously fueled the discussion...
I am sick to death and could barely stand to face my students this morning. I was lucky to be able to use literature to express my feelings. Walt Whitman's "Election Day, November 1884" has never been more apt.
A silver lining, it looks like Hillary is winning the popular vote. It is one of the few times in history of a President has won the election without the popular vote. I feel like this should show this is not the will of the people, this is not some sort of land slide victory. It makes me happy at least knowing Hillary did win popular vote.
@niceymeany I'll stay just for you! No but I think my husband and I need to move back to a blue area just for our sanity. It's hard being around NO one who is likeminded. It's scary as well after this news.
"AsAlexander Hamilton writes in “The Federalist Papers,” the Constitution is designed to ensure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” The point of the Electoral College is to preserve “the sense of the people,” while at the same time ensuring that a president is chosen “by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.”
This is how I feel today. I work in a progressive political organization. We are in mourning. We are right now having a nation-wide staff meeting. Everyone is crying, including our white male ED.
"AsAlexander Hamilton writes in “The Federalist Papers,” the Constitution is designed to ensure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” The point of the Electoral College is to preserve “the sense of the people,” while at the same time ensuring that a president is chosen “by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.”
"The election is ancient history, Zaphod. If memory serves, you won, proving that good looks and charm win over brilliance and the ability to govern."
Not that the good looks and charm apply here but still....
So long, and thanks for all the fish.
I always think of Douglas Adams at election time for this quote:
It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
This article really hit my feelings and I am sick of people saying it will be okay and you are just being a sore loser. It is like because I am white and more well off, I will probably be okay, but many of my friends will not.
I toyed with dropping this tidbit in the UO thread but thought it was more appropriate here.
I'm seeing so many people call for Hillary to run again in 2020. And I think that what has happened this week and the rallying winds that are coming out of her loss are such an amazing show of strength that is 100% a result of HRC being HRC, but I kinda want fresh blood for 2020.
I love Hillary and think she would have been a fantastic president, but I do not think she should run again and I do not think she will. Right now I want Cory Booker or Gavin Newsom - but I'm sure more rising stars will distinguish themselves over the next 4 years.
We had a whole discussion of Warren could have won because she doesn't have all the Clinton baggage. It would of been a less hateful but I still don't think she would have won.
I also dont think Sanders would have won if he would have won the primary either. I think we were just fucked without a Christian man.
There's a lot of polling to show that Sanders would have won (for what that's worth, of course). In my own personal life I actually know two people that switched from the Sanders camp to passionate anti-Hillary Trump supporters. He polled really well among the type of independent who doesn't think about the issues too hard, as well as among many liberals of course.
Hillary unequivocally should never run again. If she does I'll be furious. She would have been a wonderful president but the baggage sunk her. Warren, Booker, or Julian Castro would be good choices. Part of me just wants Warren to be like Kennedy and kick butt in the Senate for her full career, but she does have good populist appeal. Really the DNC just needs to get the eff out of its own way.
Yes, I'm totally torn between wanting Warren to keep fighting the good fight in congress vs becoming president. I do heart Cory Booker. I'd like to see and hear a lot more from him in the coming years. I worry that following a ramp-up of overt racism in the Trump years, we won't be able to get a woman or a black man into the Oval in 2020. God, even saying that pisses me off.
Yaaaaaas Julian Castro @Xstatic3333 He's the former mayor of San Antonio and we loved him while he was here. Also, here's a picture us at banana republic (I used to work there and I shamelessly asked for a picture)
@skiingstark Tammy Duckworth is an unbelievable human being. I'm getting chills at the idea of voting for her. But I don't know if she'll have enough clout to run in 2020. Her political career is in its relative infancy. Cory Booker, though, seems poised for a big ol' promotion.
Someone just posted to facebook that there was a noose hanging from a tree on Main St in my town. This new reality just does not compute in my brain.
Extremely, extremely sad and scary. What I'd really like to see is the people who voted for Trump for economic/policy/just don't like Hillary reasons to stand up against this crap, but sadly, at least in my own life, I'm not seeing it at all. If you bring it up they just mention the one (admittedly sad) story of the old man who was beat up for supporting Trump, as if that absolves hundreds of acts of racism. Trump will need to maintain and grow his support to get reelected, so if over 50% of the nation can show that we won't stand for this, he'll need to change his tune.
This is the same shit I've seen. Like everyone is calling the protestors rioters and saying this is why he won and how they shouldn't be inconviencing people and if some black person says "fuck white people" and it's recorded it's all about the reverse racism and the video is posted on every single of my of neighbors Facebook pages.
Re: The Politics Post
I think you are on to something though pointing out BLM. I think POC are going to be most at risk and I need to get out more to use my whiteness and make sure I'm being a good ally.
The other thing I might do today is figure out how to pressure congress to confirm Garland as the new justice. Letting them stall and handing an appointment to Trump is a huge mistake.
https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/11/how_to_preserve_the_ideals_of_liberal_democracy_in_the_face_of_a_trump_presidency.html
White allies will make the difference. I go to a very diverse church in Harlem and it has been really heartwarming to watch my friends from Kentucky, Tennessee, and Ohio try to explain things to their friends and family. They will have much more of a positive impact and potential for change on their families than I ever will.
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married 03/17/07
lived in Houston, Austin, Los Angeles and NYC
due: 2/15/17
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Miscarriage @ 10 wks 02/28/2016
BFP 05/28/2016!
@homemake, please don't leave. Stay and fight like hell.
https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-popular-vote/index.html
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"AsAlexander Hamilton writes in “The Federalist Papers,” the Constitution is designed to ensure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” The point of the Electoral College is to preserve “the sense of the people,” while at the same time ensuring that a president is chosen “by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.”
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/93440438/
Feels like BS at this point in time.
Mourning today. Organizing tomorrow.
ME: 25, DH: 27
TTC #1 since 09/2015
Miscarriage @ 10 wks 02/28/2016
BFP 05/28/2016!
FTM, 2 Furbabies
married 03/17/07
lived in Houston, Austin, Los Angeles and NYC
due: 2/15/17
"The election is ancient history, Zaphod. If memory serves, you won, proving that good looks and charm win over brilliance and the ability to govern."
Not that the good looks and charm apply here but still....
It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
This article really hit my feelings and I am sick of people saying it will be okay and you are just being a sore loser. It is like because I am white and more well off, I will probably be okay, but many of my friends will not.
Married to my Soul Mate since 09/06/09
I'm seeing so many people call for Hillary to run again in 2020. And I think that what has happened this week and the rallying winds that are coming out of her loss are such an amazing show of strength that is 100% a result of HRC being HRC, but I kinda want fresh blood for 2020.
I also dont think Sanders would have won if he would have won the primary either. I think we were just fucked without a Christian man.
Hillary unequivocally should never run again. If she does I'll be furious. She would have been a wonderful president but the baggage sunk her. Warren, Booker, or Julian Castro would be good choices. Part of me just wants Warren to be like Kennedy and kick butt in the Senate for her full career, but she does have good populist appeal. Really the DNC just needs to get the eff out of its own way.
He's the former mayor of San Antonio and we loved him while he was here.
Also, here's a picture us at banana republic (I used to work there and I shamelessly asked for a picture)
Married to my Soul Mate since 09/06/09