Friend who is on maternity leave (*TW* and does know about my loss and tends to be a little less than gentle about it) sent me an email today asking if I wanted to get together at 3:00 or so today.
No, actually, you'll notice that I'm NOT on maternity leave, so I'm not actually free to grab a beer at three in the afternoon. Sometimes I wonder if it's 100% innocent or if it's slightly more nefarious.
Me: 34 DH: 38 Married: June 2011 TTC since Feb 2016 BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16 BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18
@kiki75 sorry your friend is being a TW. I can't believe someone who has had a kid can't for a second sympathize and imagine what if something had gone wrong for them.
my monday bitchfest is HR has sent me several emails today about how much use-it-or-loose-it vacation time I have..... Well I'd love to use it but (as I already bitched about in the TWW) I am without back up so I can't go more than an hour away, and even if I do take the day off I can't guarantee I won't get call in or at the very least field multiple texts/phone calls. Uggg
*TW*
TTC 1/2012 Diagnosed : unexplained infertility 6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015 TTC #3 5/2016 Restarted Fertility tx IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
I am having a hell of a time with my two bff's lately....it seems like no matter what I say there is some sort of argument or misunderstanding. wtf?!
@Kiki75 sorry to hear about your coworker, she sounds like a peach @wabash15, don't you just love vacation that you can't use? *eyeroll* My work is the same way, we can't accumulate time which would be nice for those of us that don't have maternity leave!
@Kiki75 Ugh, sorry your friend is being so insensitive... I can't imagine anyone going through a pregnancy without worrying about losing it, which should make them more understanding. Sigh.
@wabash15 That's crazy that you can't use your vacation, but also can't bank it. Are you in some sort of public health/safety role that you are legally obligated to be available? Or are they just being demanding from a company perspective?
@sheknows6 Boo for BFFs giving you a hard time. Can you talk to them, or just take a step back?
I just found out the DH has to leave for work AGAIN - seems like he just got back! And I misunderstood when we were talking about it, so just realized that he leaves tomorrow, not Wednesday. At least he will be gone for AF's arrival on Wednesday/Thursday, so I can eat/drink/lounge in my PJs/call in sick without having to worry about anyone caring!
@Sailing_Mama, I will call them K & S:....I did try talking to both of them and while K is a non-related simple misunderstanding, S is probably not going to be in my life much longer if things stay the way they are. S found some books in my house, and my H and her H are friends and they talk, so she found out we were going to start ttc:
**TW- not sure if this needs it but, Trigger Warning***
There is a long, long backstory to our friendship, and to give you the TL;DR version, she is unfortunately suffering unexplained infertility, and struggling really hard (understandably so) with people in her life ttc and having children, not just myself. I'm trying to be as understanding as possible, but some of the things she has done and said to me just isn't right, understanding of her feelings or not.
I was told that she couldn't be friends with me if I were to have a baby, and that she wouldn't be in my life anymore, among other things that stung quite a bit. I have been supportive and understanding of her ever since she found out she was unable to conceive, so this just feels like a punishment for something outside of my control. We have been friends for over 8 years so it stings a lot, and while I don't expect her to be jumping for joy if I have a baby, I certainly never expected to hear "we can't be friends" if I do.
**End TW**
I took the second option and stepped back, deactivated my Facebook (the election drama contributed to that too), as well as having some "me" time away from both of them...hopefully S can reconcile her feelings and come around. I figured space and time would be better than telling her she hurt me, and I hope this is just a case of her being upset with her situation and not truly upset with me. It sucks, but there's not much else I can do.
I hope that makes sense. I don't want to confront her when it feels like the load she has on her shoulders is already really hard to deal with and I can't relate. If she really doesn't want to be friends anymore then I'm doing the right thing I feel like.
@Kiki75 Thanks for starting this! And, what the holy hell? I'd have a really hard time not sending her a snarky response about how some people are still working at 3pm
@wabash15 what's HR's response when you explain your dilemma?
@Sailing_Mama sorry DH has to leave earlier than expected, but I can relate to relishing alone time to eat/drink/wallow/lounge without having to explain it to anyone.
@sheknows6 what the hell???? That sounds like an irrational mess on your friend S's part. So sorry you have to deal with that.
My bitchfest:
***possible TW*** An acquaintance/friend of mine recently got pregnant after a long struggle with infertility. I'm super happy for her - no one deserves it more. She showed up to a Chamber of Commerce meeting today, and EVERYONE was bombarding her with unsolicited advice and pregnancy/birth horror stories. It was obviously freaking her out, so I did my best to change the subject and tell her that she'll be just fine. I know that it happens to just about every woman who gets KU, but I was so annoyed for her. At this point I think it's safe to say that, if I'm lucky enough to get KU, I'm going to have a really hard time not telling well-meaning unsolicited-advice-givers to shove it. ***end possible TW***
@sheknows6, That doesn't sound like a true friend. She is making your relationship conditional on you NOT having a baby? Run the other way. You don't need a friend like that.
TTC since 8/7/16 BFP 9/13/16 MMC 10/18/16 D&C 10/20/16
@kiki75 omg she's off in her own little dream world! @sheknows6 Eeek. I mean, that's a little extreme. I hate people who are all or nothing. Why wouldn't she be thrilled for your happiness?
Um.. I have really bad cystic acne again, thanks hormones.
Me: 27 years old DH: 27 years old Type 1 Diabetes since 2001, MTHFR hetero A1298T Dogs: Raider 4 yrs, Dex 4 yrs
Married in July 2014
TTC #1 since late Feb 2016
BFP #1 3/29/16 MMC: 5/5/16 BFP #2 7/6/16 SCH, D&C 8/4/16 BFP #3 12/26/16 EDD: 9/6/17 My Chart / My Diabetes/Pregnancy Blog My Type 1/TTC/Pregnancy Podcast: Juicebox Podcast Episode 118 A1Cs: 1/12/16 6.7% 5/25/16 6.0% 11/2/16 6.1% 3/22/16 5.8% 4/27/17 5.4% 6/13/17 5.3% "Sugar Fancy Tutu"
@sheknows6 Wow! That's really irrational. I could understand if she had said that she might need a bit of space when you start a family - but to basically give you an ultimatum of a child or her??? What would she expect you to actually do??? Sorry that you're going through that - it doesn't sound like there is much you can do other than give her space to come to terms with things.
@sheknows6 wow that's rough with your BFF. It really sounds like cutting you out is a way to avoid dealing with her problems. I can't relate to her issues so I can't say what the best thing to do would be. But I would suggest to just let her know that you will still be there to support her if she is willing to accept it. Don't push any further than that if she resists because I agree she might just need space and time. I hope it all works out for you!
My bitchfest is that I woke up super motivated this morning. Then I got a headache and sat my lazy butt on the couch and have gotten nothing done that I had planned on doing and H is going to be mad when he gets home. I took a nap, I have had a bunch of water, I'm not big on taking medicine every time I get a headache but I might have to. What started out as a super motivated day turned into a super moody day. Now I'm going to have to be productive tonight to make up for my lazy day.
@lee^2 That's rough - headaches are the worst way to ruin a day. Depending on where it hurts, an ice pack on the forehead or back of the neck can really help. It isn't exactly pleasant, but it numbs the nerves and lets things calm down a bit (my neurologist gave me that advice for migraines a few years ago - it seems to help both my DH and I)
Wow, I am so sorry for you guys! You are dealing with some real waffles out there.
Mine is that I had an ultrasound last Monday to investigate my severe ovulation pain. As I've talked about in other threads, I think it's going to be bad news as the ovary with the severe pain wasn't even visible and the tech asked me at least four times if I was going to meet with the doctor after the ultrasound Anyway, I didn't get a call all week, so I called the office this morning myself. First, the nursing line (which you call to request labwork or talk to a nurse) had a full mailbox so I couldn't even leave a message. Then I called the appointment extension to tell them this and they told me to call back later! When I called back later in the afternoon, the nursing line's mailbox was STILL full and the appointment extension went straight to voicemail.
I'm bracing for bad news and need to know if we have to start being more aggressive about TTC. I can't move forward if nobody ever tells me what the ultrasound found. UGH.
Oh @adirat what mind games! I can't believe they are making you wait that long!
32 years old (both H and I) Dating 7/2008 Married 7/2014 H Type I Diabetic TTC 1/2016
12/2016
mental break from TTC-NTNP
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL) 1/17/2017
SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility) 1/18/2017
STP tubes clear 2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements 6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility 7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm) 8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup 9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze 9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid 9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
@lulu1180@wabash15@Juneroseruby Thanks ladies. It's frustrating. I'd feel better if ultrasound techs were allowed to tell you anything, but I had to specifically ask her "is that a follicle?" for her to even tell me that much! She was acting like I needed to talk to the doctor about something she saw, which just stressed me out. I guess it's TWW so it's not like I'm going to do anything for the next few days, anyway. But... why can't someone just call me already?
@LuND Seriously, what is wrong with people? One of my coworkers is due any day now (literally, her due date was Nov 1) and she was telling us some of the stuff people said to her over the weekend at a neighborhood cookout she went to....SMH
@sheknows6 Wow, I mean I can totally relate to your friend's struggle with having trouble TTC and resenting other people in her life who successfully get KU, but it sounds like she's dealing with it in a seriously immature way. I mean yes, my first reaction when I hear someone else in my life is KU is totally jealousy and bitterness, but then I quickly get over that and realize that not everything is ABOUT ME, and I am happy for them in their good fortune. Especially my BFF!!!! I mean sheesh, *especially* because I'm going through this, I would not wish it on my worst enemy, let alone people I care about deeply. Here's hoping that with space she comes to her senses. Otherwise I think you may be better off without her.
1. AF has shown up today. It's been a wonderful 4+ years of being apart (thanks BC) and now, we meet again. I am greeting her with excitement (i.e., cycle regulation) and resentment (bitch, I didn't get pregnant last cycle kind of feeling). So I am feeling like this:
2. I have 5 pregnant co-workers, 5! We only have 50 people in the company. Most are tolerable, but two are rubbing me a little the wrong way lately. One takes every chance she has to mention that she is pregnant. It's like, "oh, I am hungry, baby must be hungry" or "my nails are growing fast because I am pregnant, you know?" Yeah, we know. It's been 5 months of you telling us you are pregnant. The other co-worker constantly, awkwardly rubs her stomach during meetings and while standing around. Not in a subtle way, but full on rub...that is so awkward for everyone around. You know that kind of belly rubbing, like this:
@adirat That's unacceptable! Is there any way for you to show up there? @lee^2 Headaches are the worst. Excedrin is my savior. Not sure what I'll do if I can't take it in the future! @sugargirl1019 I feel you. My face is so oily and broken out! I can't seem to hide it with makeup either. It's terrible. @sheknows6 Grief makes some people do crazy things. But still... I'd say
No bitching for me today. It was pretty decent day!
It's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most...not where you live, or what you drive, or the price tag on your clothes... There's no dollar sign on a piece of mind, this I've come to know! *ZBB*
adirat. I'd seriously be so annoyed at my dr office, and they would be hearing it. That's super stressful, when it doesn't really need to be. I hope you get good news.
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Me: 31+ H: 32 TTC Since 11/2015 #1 - MMC 6.5 weeks (2/16); #2 - MC due to cystic hygroma at 20 weeks (10/16); #3 CP (2/17); #4 - Due 12.16.17
Re: Monday Bitchfest
No, actually, you'll notice that I'm NOT on maternity leave, so I'm not actually free to grab a beer at three in the afternoon. Sometimes I wonder if it's 100% innocent or if it's slightly more nefarious.
Married: June 2011
TTC since Feb 2016
BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16
BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP
BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18
my monday bitchfest is HR has sent me several emails today about how much use-it-or-loose-it vacation time I have..... Well I'd love to use it but (as I already bitched about in the TWW) I am without back up so I can't go more than an hour away, and even if I do take the day off I can't guarantee I won't get call in or at the very least field multiple texts/phone calls. Uggg
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
@Kiki75 sorry to hear about your coworker, she sounds like a peach
@wabash15, don't you just love vacation that you can't use? *eyeroll* My work is the same way, we can't accumulate time which would be nice for those of us that don't have maternity leave!
DD born: 3/31/19
@wabash15 That's crazy that you can't use your vacation, but also can't bank it. Are you in some sort of public health/safety role that you are legally obligated to be available? Or are they just being demanding from a company perspective?
@sheknows6 Boo for BFFs giving you a hard time. Can you talk to them, or just take a step back?
I just found out the DH has to leave for work AGAIN - seems like he just got back! And I misunderstood when we were talking about it, so just realized that he leaves tomorrow, not Wednesday.
**TW- not sure if this needs it but, Trigger Warning***
There is a long, long backstory to our friendship, and to give you the TL;DR version, she is unfortunately suffering unexplained infertility, and struggling really hard (understandably so) with people in her life ttc and having children, not just myself. I'm trying to be as understanding as possible, but some of the things she has done and said to me just isn't right, understanding of her feelings or not.
I was told that she couldn't be friends with me if I were to have a baby, and that she wouldn't be in my life anymore, among other things that stung quite a bit. I have been supportive and understanding of her ever since she found out she was unable to conceive, so this just feels like a punishment for something outside of my control.
**End TW**
I took the second option and stepped back, deactivated my Facebook (the election drama contributed to that too), as well as having some "me" time away from both of them...hopefully S can reconcile her feelings and come around. I figured space and time would be better than telling her she hurt me, and I hope this is just a case of her being upset with her situation and not truly upset with me. It sucks, but there's not much else I can do.
I hope that makes sense. I don't want to confront her when it feels like the load she has on her shoulders is already really hard to deal with and I can't relate. If she really doesn't want to be friends anymore then I'm doing the right thing I feel like.
DD born: 3/31/19
@wabash15 what's HR's response when you explain your dilemma?
@Sailing_Mama sorry DH has to leave earlier than expected, but I can relate to relishing alone time to eat/drink/wallow/lounge without having to explain it to anyone.
@sheknows6 what the hell???? That sounds like an irrational mess on your friend S's part. So sorry you have to deal with that.
My bitchfest:
***possible TW***
An acquaintance/friend of mine recently got pregnant after a long struggle with infertility. I'm super happy for her - no one deserves it more. She showed up to a Chamber of Commerce meeting today, and EVERYONE was bombarding her with unsolicited advice and pregnancy/birth horror stories. It was obviously freaking her out, so I did my best to change the subject and tell her that she'll be just fine. I know that it happens to just about every woman who gets KU, but I was so annoyed for her. At this point I think it's safe to say that, if I'm lucky enough to get KU, I'm going to have a really hard time not telling well-meaning unsolicited-advice-givers to shove it.
***end possible TW***
Married: 2/1/2012
TTC #1 since August 2016
DH SA Dec 2016: Low count (11.7 mil total motile), 5% morphology, 73% motility
Blood work June 2017: AMH 1.1 (ugh), FSH 8.4, LH: 5.2, estradiol 28 pg/ML, progesterone 7.4
HSG July 2017: tubes clear
BFP 7/24/17 - EDD 4/5/2018
BFP 9/13/16
MMC 10/18/16
D&C 10/20/16
@sheknows6 Eeek. I mean, that's a little extreme. I hate people who are all or nothing. Why wouldn't she be thrilled for your happiness?
Um.. I have really bad cystic acne again, thanks hormones.
Type 1 Diabetes since 2001, MTHFR hetero A1298T
Dogs: Raider 4 yrs, Dex 4 yrs
BFP #2 7/6/16 SCH, D&C 8/4/16
BFP #3 12/26/16 EDD: 9/6/17
My Chart / My Diabetes/Pregnancy Blog
My Type 1/TTC/Pregnancy Podcast:
Juicebox Podcast Episode 118
A1Cs:
1/12/16 6.7%
5/25/16 6.0%
11/2/16 6.1%
3/22/16 5.8%
4/27/17 5.4%
6/13/17 5.3%
"Sugar Fancy Tutu"
My bitchfest is that I woke up super motivated this morning. Then I got a headache and sat my lazy butt on the couch and have gotten nothing done that I had planned on doing and H is going to be mad when he gets home. I took a nap, I have had a bunch of water, I'm not big on taking medicine every time I get a headache but I might have to. What started out as a super motivated day turned into a super moody day. Now I'm going to have to be productive tonight to make up for my lazy day.
thanks ladies, my thoughts exactly. the first step is distance, & that has been established for sure
DD born: 3/31/19
Mine is that I had an ultrasound last Monday to investigate my severe ovulation pain. As I've talked about in other threads, I think it's going to be bad news as the ovary with the severe pain wasn't even visible and the tech asked me at least four times if I was going to meet with the doctor after the ultrasound
I'm bracing for bad news and need to know if we have to start being more aggressive about TTC. I can't move forward if nobody ever tells me what the ultrasound found. UGH.
"It's time to try defying gravity."
Married 6/11/16
TTC Since 6/2016
12/2016 RE appt; 1/2017 SA & HSG results - all normal
3/2017 Dx Hyperprolactinemia; 5/2017 Prolactin levels normal; 8/2017 Low Ovarian Reserve
8/2017 TTA for personal reasons; 10/2017 NTNP; 12/2017 Re-start TTC
7/2018 Clomid+IUI
11/2018 Letrozole+TI
12/2018 Letrozole+IUI
2/2019 NTNP
5/2019 Stopping all TTC efforts; living Childfree
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
Dating 7/2008
Married 7/2014
H Type I Diabetic
TTC 1/2016
1/10/2017 initial appt with RE (all BW results WNL)
1/17/2017 SA DX Virtual Azoo (3 sperm 0%morph 0%motility)
1/18/2017 STP tubes clear
2/1/2017 initial appt with Urologist
2/15/2017 DX H Robertsonian Translocation
H is on clomid and Theralogix Supplements
6/26/17 repeat SA: 47 sperm 0% morph 13% motility
7/26/17 IVF Consult, repeat SA (4 sperm)
8/21/17 Starting IVF cycle with Donor Sperm backup
9/1/17 ER ICSI PGS: only 2 donor embryos made it to freeze
9/13/17 Started cycle for IUI with donor and clomid
9/27/17 IUI canceled for overstim
October Plan IUI with donor and low dose clomid
Dating since: 11/17/2001
Married: 9/26/2009
TTC: June 2016
EDD: 5/14/2018
Aww, thank you! You ladies are all so kind to me
DD born: 3/31/19
@LuND Seriously, what is wrong with people? One of my coworkers is due any day now (literally, her due date was Nov 1) and she was telling us some of the stuff people said to her over the weekend at a neighborhood cookout she went to....SMH
@sheknows6 Wow, I mean I can totally relate to your friend's struggle with having trouble TTC and resenting other people in her life who successfully get KU, but it sounds like she's dealing with it in a seriously immature way. I mean yes, my first reaction when I hear someone else in my life is KU is totally jealousy and bitterness, but then I quickly get over that and realize that not everything is ABOUT ME, and I am happy for them in their good fortune. Especially my BFF!!!! I mean sheesh, *especially* because I'm going through this, I would not wish it on my worst enemy, let alone people I care about deeply. Here's hoping that with space she comes to her senses. Otherwise I think you may be better off without her.
@adirat FX for you that you hear something soon!!
My bitchfest is hello to AF.
1. AF has shown up today. It's been a wonderful 4+ years of being apart (thanks BC) and now, we meet again. I am greeting her with excitement (i.e., cycle regulation) and resentment (bitch, I didn't get pregnant last cycle kind of feeling). So I am feeling like this:
2. I have 5 pregnant co-workers, 5! We only have 50 people in the company. Most are tolerable, but two are rubbing me a little the wrong way lately. One takes every chance she has to mention that she is pregnant. It's like, "oh, I am hungry, baby must be hungry" or "my nails are growing fast because I am pregnant, you know?" Yeah, we know. It's been 5 months of you telling us you are pregnant. The other co-worker constantly, awkwardly rubs her stomach during meetings and while standing around. Not in a subtle way, but full on rub...that is so awkward for everyone around. You know that kind of belly rubbing, like this:
@lee^2 Headaches are the worst. Excedrin is my savior. Not sure what I'll do if I can't take it in the future!
@sugargirl1019 I feel you. My face is so oily and broken out! I can't seem to hide it with makeup either. It's terrible.
@sheknows6 Grief makes some people do crazy things. But still... I'd say
No bitching for me today. It was pretty decent day!
TTC 9/2016 BFP 12/9/16 EDD 8/21/17 NMC 1/8/16 at 7w6d
TTC 2/2017 BFP 3/6/17 EDD 11/17/17 DS born 11/25/17 via ECS
TTC 12/2018 BFP 6/2/19 EDD 2/12/20 NMC / BO at 7 weeks, low progesterone
TTC 7/2019 BFP 8/21/19 EDD 4/22/20 CP at 5 weeks
TTC 8/19 IUI #1 w/ Clomid + Ovidrel + progesterone BFN, IUI 2 and 3 w/ Letrozole + Ovidrel + progesterone,
IUI 4 Follistim + Ovidrel + progesterone BFP 1/9/20 EDD 9/18/20
AMA, ITP in pregnancy, vWD type II - low Factor VIII, unexplained RPL and secondary infertility
Dating: 12/21/2001
Married: 09/08/2012
BFP: 11/16/2016 EDD: 07/27/2017
Baby Fish born: 08/01/2017
DD born: 3/31/19
** December BMB Siggy Challenge - Animals in Pools **
Me: 31+ H: 32
TTC Since 11/2015
#1 - MMC 6.5 weeks (2/16); #2 - MC due to cystic hygroma at 20 weeks (10/16); #3 CP (2/17); #4 - Due 12.16.17