@hqinmd OH and I are apart for the same reason, work. There aren't any local jobs in his industry near us right now, so he's working in a large city a couple of hours away. He stays in a hotel all week and usually comes home on the weekends. Last weekend he had to work to catch up from our 2 week vacation. It's hard and we honestly hate being apart, but I'm thankful that he's close enough that I can just take off after work and go spend the night with him. We started that before TTC, just for our sanity, but it definitely makes TTC easier, too. Glad your DH is back home full-time
Me: 45 OH: 42 Beloved SS: born 12/2011 TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016 **TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW** August 2016 - dx with DOR Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T May 2017 - began freezing sperm June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
@purplg8r CM is tricky, hang in there!! You will get the hang of it, it may just take seeing the cycle progression for it to click. TMI, but what helped solidify creamy and EWCM for me were the descriptions that creamy feels like lotion when you rub it between your fingers and EWCM is slippery and can stretch several inches between your fingers.
@darkrose88 and @sailing_mama Re: FF VIP, regular FF was more than enough for my first several months temping/charting but the data lover in me loves VIP now, probably way too much. I got VIP with a promotion and would definitely say wait until a coupon or discount comes up to get it! They come up pretty frequently.
@TinyTurtle after evening sex, I'll wait until about 3 the next afternoon to check CM. That's usually enough time for everything to clear.
@RunRestRepeat I agree with what @wabash15 recommended for OPKs. I am an evening surger, and I've focused my OPK times to afternoon and late evening. Until you get a feel for when you usually surge it might be a good idea to try several times of day, say, the two you mentioned and then a later evening time. Then you can cut back from there.
@Nytino FX for O and confirmation for you!! I'm all for really clear wording on the disclaimer if it's going to be there so that newbies are armed with the best info possible. Maybe wording like: *Disclaimer* Unless you are doing OPKs, and / or checking CM/CP, it may be hard to predict ovulation. Only temping or monitoring by a doctor will *confirm* ovulation.
Month/Cycle: 11/8 active & off the bench (15/11 total), 3/2 off the bench AL (7/5 total AL)
CD: 22
WAYDTGKU: BBT&OPK, CM/CP, green tea, PNV, Metformin, Levo, Progesterone after O
R/R: Hope hope hoping this is real EWCM now!!
CS/Q: Only if you have ute goggles and can peer into my chart future
GTKY: When was the last time you had an aha / mind-blown moment? Someone at work showed me that you can pull the plunger out of a 1cc syringe and use it as a stylet on the touch-screen cardiac monitor. It works like a charm!
me . early 30's | h . mid 30's | < 3 . 2013
ntnp #2 . summer 2018
*siggy warning*
ttc#1 . jul 2015
mmc . mar 2016 | 6w2d
dx PCOS (non-IR) / subclinical hypothyroidism . summer 2016
tx metformin, levothyroxine, LP progesterone, femara + trigger + ti . fall/winter 2016 BFP! . jan 2017 DD . oct 2017
@khrun17 Usually FF will mark the second day as O if the OPK matches with temp.
It's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most...not where you live, or what you drive, or the price tag on your clothes... There's no dollar sign on a piece of mind, this I've come to know! *ZBB*
WAYDTGKU: charting (temps, CM), pnv, b complex, maybe progesterone depending on results of bw.
R/R: none, though I've lost a few lbs since starting the b vitamins and I'm def not complaining.
CS/Q: Nah, nothing to see here.
GTKY: When was the last time you had an aha / mind-blown moment? This happens to me a lot, but most recently.... I discovered that possum and opossum were two different animals. I didn't know opossum was a word (I thought people were saying a possum). This is similar to when I thought it was a (as in a single) stigmatism.... or someone was in acoma, acoma being the name of a condition. Sometimes you just need to see it in writing hahaha.
@NYTino24, that is so frustrating. Do you ever get pos OPKs? Maybe that temp drop is a crappy temperature.
@laurad75, wooowwww, I'm impressed with plane temping. Last cycle I used the excuse that my thermometer was too far away in my overnight bag to skip a day haha.
@darkrose88@hqinmd I like the VIP because of all the chart analysis/ stats you can obsess over in the TWW. Could be a pro or a con depending on your personality I suppose
And can anyone tell me if there's an easier way to tag than typing out the full name, maybe that will be my aha moment today lolol
WAYDTGKU: PNV, Vitamin D, fish oil, CoQ10, BBT, CM, OPKs and HIO EOD/when we are in the same city starts tomorrow
R/R: I like this part of the cycle because it's the hopeful part of the cycle. It should work out that H's schedule will be perfect for this FW so that's good.
CS/Q: Nothing. Just trying to stay entertained while I wait.
GTKY: When was the last time you had an aha / mind-blown moment?
I guess the one thing I can think of recently was talking to the vet yesterday (took the dog in for his annual exam and a couple shots). We were asking him about what to do with his teeth because even though he's a big chewer, he seems to tend to plaque and we haven't been successful with brushing his teeth before. So he was explaining some other ways to work up to brushing his teeth (start giving the toothpaste just as a treat, then rubbing it on his teeth, then using the little finger brush on there) and it was one of those, "I am so stupid." moments. Duh. I should have figured that one out on my own. Oh well. Now we know!
Me: 34 DH: 38 Married: June 2011 TTC since Feb 2016 BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16 BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18
@laurad75 Travel does not play well with charting. But it can still play alright with TTC. I'm going to Vegas in a month. Did you happen to notice any places that would be good for a group dinner, preferably with a private room, fairly nice since this is a work function?
@purplg8r I HATE trying to manage groups of people I care about but I usually carefully keep separated. Ugh. But at a certain point, you just have to throw your hands up and let them all worry 'bout themselves.
@KhRun17 I think you can put both into FF. At least that's what I remember doing... I often use both. I would maybe do differently if Wondfos weren't hella cheap but they are so... And then once I feel like O is imminent, I'll do Wondfos a couple times a day. What @Saralee797 much more eloquently.
@ahrains Hahaha. Your students are still fabulous. Sometimes they're also just little butt-covering liars.
@JuneRoseRuby Technically for OPKs, the line should be darker than the control. So that one's a negative. Usually I do a slow rise from pretty pale to maybe 50% control for a few days to one good dark day.
@Sailing_Mama What if you exclude yesterday but put in a temp the same as today's in for tomorrow?
@darkrose88 I really like the VIP features so I have it. Then again, maybe it only lets me indulge in BSC that I shouldn't be? But, it does give you more than three months of cycle/due date planning so there is that if your cycles are fairly regular and you're trying to plan schedules around future FWs.
@haylsbayls Unfortunately being so hydrated can make it really hard to get a positive OPK. It may be possible if you caught it at just the right time but it's tough. I had one cycle (100% certain I O'ed) that I never got a full positive because of that. In that case, I would just be sure to be right on the temping and to do the keep your Wondfos and tape them in a notebook together so you can see the change in comparison to the others. You could also just shift your water drinking some to more in the morning, less in the evening so your FMU is more concentrated.
Edit: Fixing wonky formatting.
Me: 34 DH: 38 Married: June 2011 TTC since Feb 2016 BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16 BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18
@kiki75 Thanks for the suggestion - I never thought about entering in a future date to see how that affected it. If I do as you suggested, it doesn't show CH, so I think I'll just exclude yesterday and hope that O is still coming, since DH will be home this weekend!
@nikkiandchris I normally get 3 days of positive OPKs, but today's thread makes me think it will be a fallback rise and that I may have overhydrated.... Will do an OPK when I get home from dinner with the ILs and HIO just in case since DH hasn't a 24 tomorrow. Time will tell!
It's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most...not where you live, or what you drive, or the price tag on your clothes... There's no dollar sign on a piece of mind, this I've come to know! *ZBB*
Too late for the Checkin, but I can't resist the gtky: I saw a meme on FBI yesterday saying "slang" is short for "short language" no idea if it's true or why it's not SHlang then, but it makes sense!!!
TTGP history (*TW*):
Started TTC Oct 2015 BFP #1 June 2016: EDD 16 March 2017, MC July 2016 Re-started TTC Aug 2016 Started IF testing Nov 2016 Spontaneous BFP #2 January 2017: Rainbow Baby Boy September 2017 BFP #3 November 2018: Baby #2 expected August 2019
@Kiki75 I struck out with all the restaurants we went to. I know Vegas has a great culinary culture but I made some bad choices and the other nights were organized dinners that I was not impressed with. Sorry I'm no help.
History and blog link in spoiler
2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks May 2020 FET; BFN July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate Oct 2020 BFP!
@laurad75 Info on which ones were bad is good too! Organizing group dinners is stressful and Vegas is pretty much the worst for them. Lots of great food to be had if money is no concern.
Me: 34 DH: 38 Married: June 2011 TTC since Feb 2016 BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16 BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18
Re: WTO Friday 10/28
Beloved SS: born 12/2011
TTC my bio #1/our #2 since January 2016
**TW** June 2016 had CP **end TW**
August 2016 - dx with DOR
Somewhere in here received recommendation to do IVF with donor eggs, elected not to; OH dx with Low T
May 2017 - began freezing sperm
June 2017 - OH began treatment for Low T
July 2017 - began doing 1 IUI via a midwife and 1 at home insemination each cycle
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6259ba
July 2018 - exhausted frozen sperm, officially NTNP since OH is probably shooting blanks
@darkrose88 and @sailing_mama Re: FF VIP, regular FF was more than enough for my first several months temping/charting but the data lover in me loves VIP now, probably way too much. I got VIP with a promotion and would definitely say wait until a coupon or discount comes up to get it! They come up pretty frequently.
@TinyTurtle after evening sex, I'll wait until about 3 the next afternoon to check CM. That's usually enough time for everything to clear.
@RunRestRepeat I agree with what @wabash15 recommended for OPKs. I am an evening surger, and I've focused my OPK times to afternoon and late evening. Until you get a feel for when you usually surge it might be a good idea to try several times of day, say, the two you mentioned and then a later evening time. Then you can cut back from there.
@Nytino FX for O and confirmation for you!! I'm all for really clear wording on the disclaimer if it's going to be there so that newbies are armed with the best info possible. Maybe wording like: *Disclaimer* Unless you are doing OPKs, and / or checking CM/CP, it may be hard to predict ovulation. Only temping or monitoring by a doctor will *confirm* ovulation.
ntnp #2 . summer 2018
*siggy warning*
ttc#1 . jul 2015
mmc . mar 2016 | 6w2d
dx PCOS (non-IR) / subclinical hypothyroidism . summer 2016
tx metformin, levothyroxine, LP progesterone, femara + trigger + ti . fall/winter 2016
BFP! . jan 2017
DD . oct 2017
TTC 9/2016 BFP 12/9/16 EDD 8/21/17 NMC 1/8/16 at 7w6d
TTC 2/2017 BFP 3/6/17 EDD 11/17/17 DS born 11/25/17 via ECS
TTC 12/2018 BFP 6/2/19 EDD 2/12/20 NMC / BO at 7 weeks, low progesterone
TTC 7/2019 BFP 8/21/19 EDD 4/22/20 CP at 5 weeks
TTC 8/19 IUI #1 w/ Clomid + Ovidrel + progesterone BFN, IUI 2 and 3 w/ Letrozole + Ovidrel + progesterone,
IUI 4 Follistim + Ovidrel + progesterone BFP 1/9/20 EDD 9/18/20
AMA, ITP in pregnancy, vWD type II - low Factor VIII, unexplained RPL and secondary infertility
CD: 6
WAYDTGKU: charting (temps, CM), pnv, b complex, maybe progesterone depending on results of bw.
R/R: none, though I've lost a few lbs since starting the b vitamins and I'm def not complaining.
CS/Q: Nah, nothing to see here.
GTKY: When was the last time you had an aha / mind-blown moment? This happens to me a lot, but most recently.... I discovered that possum and opossum were two different animals. I didn't know opossum was a word (I thought people were saying a possum). This is similar to when I thought it was a (as in a single) stigmatism.... or someone was in acoma, acoma being the name of a condition. Sometimes you just need to see it in writing hahaha.
@laurad75, wooowwww, I'm impressed with plane temping. Last cycle I used the excuse that my thermometer was too far away in my overnight bag to skip a day haha.
@darkrose88 @hqinmd I like the VIP because of all the chart analysis/ stats you can obsess over in the TWW. Could be a pro or a con depending on your personality I suppose
And can anyone tell me if there's an easier way to tag than typing out the full name, maybe that will be my aha moment today lolol
CD: 9
WAYDTGKU: PNV, Vitamin D, fish oil, CoQ10, BBT, CM, OPKs and HIO EOD/when we are in the same city starts tomorrow
R/R: I like this part of the cycle because it's the hopeful part of the cycle. It should work out that H's schedule will be perfect for this FW so that's good.
CS/Q: Nothing. Just trying to stay entertained while I wait.
GTKY: When was the last time you had an aha / mind-blown moment?
Married: June 2011
TTC since Feb 2016
BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16
BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP
BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18
and thanks to everyone for CM-related replies, I wait at least 12 hours between checks so hopefully that's enough time for ~things~ to pass.
Together: 08/08
Married: 08/14
TTC#1: 04/16
Edit: Wait, that's backwards, Opossums are in the US, Possums in Australia
@shstephenson yay for puppies!
@NYTino24 @Pinky917 @Sailing_Mama @wabash15 @virginiaham thank you for all of the advice!
@WillRunForWine21 that's how I sing that song too!
@alysapuggles strep is the worst! Feel better!
@nikkiandchris I had no idea they were 2 different animals!!!
@purplg8r I HATE trying to manage groups of people I care about but I usually carefully keep separated. Ugh. But at a certain point, you just have to throw your hands up and let them all worry 'bout themselves.
@KhRun17 I think you can put both into FF. At least that's what I remember doing... I often use both. I would maybe do differently if Wondfos weren't hella cheap but they are so... And then once I feel like O is imminent, I'll do Wondfos a couple times a day. What @Saralee797 much more eloquently.
@shstephenson Re: Puppy. We require pictures!
@ahrains Hahaha. Your students are still fabulous. Sometimes they're also just little butt-covering liars.
@JuneRoseRuby Technically for OPKs, the line should be darker than the control. So that one's a negative. Usually I do a slow rise from pretty pale to maybe 50% control for a few days to one good dark day.
@Sailing_Mama What if you exclude yesterday but put in a temp the same as today's in for tomorrow?
@darkrose88 I really like the VIP features so I have it. Then again, maybe it only lets me indulge in BSC that I shouldn't be? But, it does give you more than three months of cycle/due date planning so there is that if your cycles are fairly regular and you're trying to plan schedules around future FWs.
@haylsbayls Unfortunately being so hydrated can make it really hard to get a positive OPK. It may be possible if you caught it at just the right time but it's tough. I had one cycle (100% certain I O'ed) that I never got a full positive because of that. In that case, I would just be sure to be right on the temping and to do the keep your Wondfos and tape them in a notebook together so you can see the change in comparison to the others. You could also just shift your water drinking some to more in the morning, less in the evening so your FMU is more concentrated.
Edit: Fixing wonky formatting.
Married: June 2011
TTC since Feb 2016
BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16
BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP
BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18
TTC 9/2016 BFP 12/9/16 EDD 8/21/17 NMC 1/8/16 at 7w6d
TTC 2/2017 BFP 3/6/17 EDD 11/17/17 DS born 11/25/17 via ECS
TTC 12/2018 BFP 6/2/19 EDD 2/12/20 NMC / BO at 7 weeks, low progesterone
TTC 7/2019 BFP 8/21/19 EDD 4/22/20 CP at 5 weeks
TTC 8/19 IUI #1 w/ Clomid + Ovidrel + progesterone BFN, IUI 2 and 3 w/ Letrozole + Ovidrel + progesterone,
IUI 4 Follistim + Ovidrel + progesterone BFP 1/9/20 EDD 9/18/20
AMA, ITP in pregnancy, vWD type II - low Factor VIII, unexplained RPL and secondary infertility
Dating: 11/14/2010
Married: 10/18/2014
TTC April 2016
BFP: 5/12/2016 ~ MC: 5/25/2016
BFP #1 June 2016: EDD 16 March 2017, MC July 2016
Re-started TTC Aug 2016
Started IF testing Nov 2016
Spontaneous BFP #2 January 2017: Rainbow Baby Boy September 2017
BFP #3 November 2018: Baby #2 expected August 2019
2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
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Married: June 2011
TTC since Feb 2016
BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16
BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP
BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18