Infertility

Telling everyone we've stopped trying (From child loss to childless)

hoarnoldhoarnold member
edited September 2016 in Infertility
Ugh I can't deal with one more close friend telling me that surprise! they are pregnant. Good for you. 

Getting pregnant the first time only took about 8 months, it was everything that happened after that, that has sent my life into a tailspin of devastation and anger. Everything was going smoothly for the first few months of the pregnancy, no strong symptoms except minimal appetite. When the doctor mentioned it was time for genetic screening at 14 weeks, I didn't want to do it, but my husband did. Add in the next 4 weeks of misery waiting for news. When the news was delivered to us that our baby boy may have downs, I was still optimistic.  We could handle that as a couple, it's well known and there are tons of support and resources for raising babies with downs. But then the full chromosome panel came back and they said Trisomy 5P. Never heard of it?  Yeah, me either. There aren't many cases of survival for Trisomy 5P so there was little chance that our baby would survive, let alone have a quality life without constant medical care. 

What were our next options?  Apparently, fetuses with Tri can carry on like normal pregnancies so our decision was to either carry on the pregnancy and plan to bury our baby post delivery (with so much more grief involved) or send him to heaven now free of pain.  I'm pro-choice and I can argue anyone to eternity about why I am because I HAVE LIVED THROUGH THIS!! It was the saddest day of my life losing my son. The Internet didn't know about my pregnancy so it was much easier to tell those closer to me but more judgy that we had just miscarried. 

2 months and my first period later, we got the ok to start trying again. Let me tell you something, getting pregnant will NEVER be the same when you lose your first baby. The joyful bliss is tarnished by every supplement, fertility monitoring device, pee stick, app, cramp, sick feeling, overreading the Internet, doctor visit you can think of! And every next person telling you they are pregnant.  I HATE when Aunt Flo comes, my pity parties last for days and I HATE EVERYONE.

16 months later...We've started down the path of infertility treatment but it's exhausting and the dr's office is so insensitive to what you are going through! AND the cost! Not everyone is blessed with company paid insurance so go sprinkle your joy about that somewhere else!

AND DON'T TELL ME TO RELAX! I've yoga-d, meditated, acupunctured and all the above.

So we are throwing in the towel.  Every person that tells me they are pregnant gets a monotone "good for you" and every person that asks me that so invasive question of when are we going to have a baby gets a "we aren't." PLAIN and SIMPLE

Now, it's time to plan the rest of my life. 

My one question I ponder on often though is...will I ever be happy again for those that conceive?  Will I ever be able to move on wholly with my decision to not start a family?  Will I ever not be the grumpy B that doesn't go to baby showers?

So broken. 




Re: Telling everyone we've stopped trying (From child loss to childless)

  • I'm so sorry for everything you have been through in your infertility journey. I have no wisdom or advice, but I wasn't sure if you've ever read the blog Ever Upward. It is written by a woman who after loss and fertility treatment has decided on a child free life with her husband. 

    Wishing you you well moving forward. 

    https://everupward.org/why-ever-upward/
  • @hoarnold No judgement here. My heart truly aches for you after all you've been through. I hope you learn to find comfort and happiness soon. 
    ****Siggy TW****
    natural pregnancy: 2008 
    Me: 28 (Hypothyroid), DH: 35
    Together since: 2010
    Married: 2013
    TTC: 2013
    Infertility: severe MFI, low AMH (0.5)
    Met RE: January 2016
    ER: 3/14 (4 follies, 6 eggs retrieved, 2 fertilized)
    fresh 3dt of 2 embryos= BFP (1 implanted)
    EDD w/ baby boy= 12/6/16
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  • Im so sorry for your loss. I've unfortunately heard of the trisomy bc my close friend terminated her pregnancy due to the same thing. I completely agree with you on the pro choice thing. To deliver a baby that you know is going to die? I just couldn't do it and can't imagine someone being forced to against their will. It's an unimaginably terrible situation. 

    Again, I'm so sorry and hope you and your partner find peace. 
  • I'm sorry for your loss. I just hope that you two find piece, and happiness soon.
  • Sending virtual hugs to you @hoarnold - I am so sorry for all you've been through.
  • Sorry for your loss @hoarnold. I'm also afraid I'm going to be bitter about this forever. Have you considered a therapist to help you through? I'm beginning to look into that.
    Me: 33, PCOS with anovulation
    DH: 36, No known issues
    TTC since 11/2014
    1000mg Metformin daily

    Oct-Dec 2015: Letrozole 5mg, Ovidrel, TI = BFN x 2
    Feb-May 2016: Letrozole 5mg, Ovidrel, TI, Prometrium = BFN x 3
    August 2016: Clomid 100mg no response, Letrozole 5mg, Ovidrel, TI, Prometrium = BFN

  • I'm almost in the same spot, one more try and that's it for me. I just can't anymore. I wonder if I'll ever be able to talk about it without crying. I wonder if I'll ever want to hang out with my friends with kids since that's all they talk about. When will I stop noticing that every thing seem to revolve around children and families. What happens when you will never know what everyone else describes as the 'greatest thing that ever happened' to them.
    im sorry for you and me and everyone like us.
    Me & DH - 41, DH has a cyst blocking his tubes, I'm just old.
    IVF #1 scheduled May 2016 - 375/525 follistim, 75 menopur - cancelled cycle Day 6
    IVF #2 scheduled July 2016 - new protocol, switcharoo...IUI June 2016 - BFN
    IVF#3 scheduled August 2016 - estrogen & testosterone primed for 3 wks - ganirelix 7 days leading up to stim - 500 follistim, 75 menopur, 150 clomid , no follicle growth on day 6, stopped injectibles. Scanned day 9 just to check, some growth, 3 days 200 mg clomid, day 12 more growth, 100 follistim, 75 menopur, start ganirelix on day 13, ER = 0 eggs, ovulated to soon ( :( )
    IVF#4 scheduled Sept 2016 - Microdose Flare protocol, cancelled stim day 6 converted to IUI (one dominant follicle)  :(  IUI cancelled ovulated too soon again. Taking a mental health break.
    IVF#5 December 2016 - New protocol, same results. My adventure is over.


  • @hoarnold - Oh My!  I am so sorry for everything you have been through.  You made the right decision for you and DH!!!  reading your story brought tears to my eyes and I sympathize with you so much!!!  I am however, so happy I read this.

    I am am in a similar situation/feeling right now.  **TW**I got pregnant naturally in Feb of 2015 and MC in April 2015.  It was so not fun, but I figured so many women MC and are able to get PG again without issue.   Ya, I'm not the girl.  We are completely OOP as well.  I had 3 failed IUI's and just had a BFN from our only IVF treatment and I am devastated (nothing left to freeze).  Unless someone has experienced IF, I am having a really hard time with people who get pregnant so easily (who haven't struggled with IF).  Like you said, don't tell me to "relax", don't tell me "lots of people my age are getting pregnant",  "It'll happen, don't worry!"  I want to smack them in the face!!!!!  hahahaha~~~ I don't know if I'll be happy for those people who don't struggle the way us ladies have struggled.

    Most of my friends all got PG without issue and apparently, unless you have kids as well, we don't have anything in common.  I too, am participating in the pity party and I really don't care right now and nor should you.  It's hard!!!!  Everyone reacts differently and that is ok!!!!


    Hugs!!!!

    ***TW***

    Married: May 2012

    Me: 38 DH: 38

    TTC since August 2014

    BFP: March 2015

    MC: April 2015 (9 weeks)

    Diagnosis: DOR/Low AMH

    Dec. 2015-50mg Clomid - BFN

    Feb. 2016-IUI #1 100mg Clomid + Ovidrel = BFN

    April 2016 - IUI #2 100mg Clomid + Ovidrel = BFN

    May 2016 - IUI #3 = BFN

    September 2016 - IVF round #1 = BFN

  • oxinfreeoxinfree member
    edited October 2016
    @hoarnold
    This is just such a relatable post. This journey is so so hard, and unless they've walked a mile in our shoes, they can't have a clue what it feels like, try as they might. 

    I'm so sorry you're struggling, and so sorry you're having to have these hard conversations. Overall I'm not sure how long you've been ttc but we're about 5 years in and being happy for others has gotten a bit easier for me. Every person is different though. I actively work at it every day. I use gratitude in my own life to try and encourage me to see that I'm more than my infertility. It's not easy though.

    I just wanted to stop in and say I understand, I empathize, and I truly hope you can find peace and happiness.  <3
    ---
    Started TTC April 2011
    Me: 32, DH: 32
    Diagnosis: Endometriosis

    • 2012 - 3 Rounds clomid - all BFN
    • 2013 - 1 Fresh IVF with 2 day 3 embryos - BFN
    • 2014 - 1 Frozen IVF with 2 day 5 embryos - BFN
    • Took a long break, continuing trying naturally
    • Feb 2016 - Biopsy = Endo, DH sperm improved from 1% to 6% morphology
    • March 2016 - Fresh IVF cycle with acupuncture & intralipids: 20 eggs retrieved (17 mature), 7 ICSI'd fertilized, 9 naturally fertilized. 16 total embryos!
    • April 8th - 2 embryos (1ICSI and 1 Natural) transferred. (7 blastocysts frozen), April 18th - Beta = BFN
    • Sept 23rd - Lupron Depot Injection for Endo control
    • Nov 15th 2016 - Started daily Lupron Injections for upcoming FET
    • Nov 22 - Baseline US/BW - Intralipid Infusion - Start Meds for FET with immune protocol
    • Dec 16th FET transfer of 3 embryos (1 - AA, 2 - BB)
    • TW below
    • Dec 22nd - first ever bfp (very faint lines FRER & cheapie)
    • Dec 27th Beta = 192, Dec 29th Beta = 379
    • EDD - Sept 5th 2017

    - - -
    I'm a YouTube vlogger who talks about Infertility, IVF and Endometriosis. Check it out here!
    Follow along at http://liv4today.blog
    Instagram @liv4todayvlog 


  • So sorry for all you've been through... Hugs <3... 
    *tw*
    Me: 33 / DH: 30
    Married: 10/19/13
    NTNP since 2010 / TTC since 2013
    DX: Unexplained
    June 2014 – Aug 2014 (3 cycles): Medicated cycles >> Letrozole + Trigger = BFN
    Sept 2014: IUI #1 >> Letrozole + Follistim + Trigger = BFN 
    Dec 2014: IUI #2 >> Letrozole + Follistim + Trigger = BFN 
    Sept 2016: Consult with RE, DH consult with Urologist
    Nov 2016: D&C to remove polyps >> RE required 6 month break
    May 2017: IUI #3 >> Letrozole + Follistim + Trigger = BFP >> MC/CP
    Aug 2017: IUI #4 >> Follistim + Trigger = BFN
    Oct 2019: IVF Consult

  • I know sorry doesn't help, but I am sorry. I just wanted to tell you thank you for posting this. I am going through pretty much the same thing, but my baby would have killed me if I let it go longer. This was a year and a half ago. We still can't get pregnant.  I wish you the best and I hope that you get some peace. I am not sure how this site thing works, but I am here if you need to vent.
  • @tkedwards13 if you don't mind me asking, was it ectopic? You said your baby would have killed you so I wondered if it was ectopic. I just had an ectopic pregnancy  :'(
    TTC #1 since August 2013
    Unexplained/ Endo
    Medicated IUIs # 1-3 BFN
    IVF #1- BFN
    FET #1- BFP; Ectopic pregnancy found at 7wks
    FET #2- February 2017 BFP  Beta #1- 119 (8dp5dt) Beta #2- 475 (12dp5dt)
  • Yes, it was. I didn't know because the "usual signs" didn't happen with it. My levels were too low. I got pregnant right after going off of BC, thought I finally got my first period. It wasn't, I ruptured and was bleeding internally. Luckily my husband forced me to go in after three weeks (no, I am not very smart.) I was about three months in. 
  • Sending hugs and love. It's such a shitty boat to be in. I would've done the same thing with your pregnancy. My parents struggled for 9 years to get pregnant but adopted both my sisters along the way. If IVF doesn't work for us I'd like to say I'll adopt but that also seems expensive and overwhelming.. it's just shitty. I agree with another comment, fertility therapists exist, I spoke to a grief counselor after my mom passed away and it's not perfect but helps find peace. Vent here anytime.
  • Wow @tkedwards13 I can't believe you went that long. I'm glad you're ok. I only had some bleeding which my RE assured me was normal. My hcg got up to 23,000. I had surgery and one mtx shot and my numbers still aren't going down. I'm still struggling emotionally. 
    TTC #1 since August 2013
    Unexplained/ Endo
    Medicated IUIs # 1-3 BFN
    IVF #1- BFN
    FET #1- BFP; Ectopic pregnancy found at 7wks
    FET #2- February 2017 BFP  Beta #1- 119 (8dp5dt) Beta #2- 475 (12dp5dt)
  • @lilmissslp I'm so sorry to hear your numbers aren't going down yet. I unfortunately have had 2 ectopic pregnancies and waiting for the beta to go down was excruciating. I was further along with my first one, and it took 2+ months after mtx, super a difficult time. Please take care of yourself!  
     
  • Thanks @jodes727.  I have a feeling it's going to be a long road. I can't believe it took that long for yours to come down. I'm so sorry you had to go through that twice. I know the chances for a second one are much higher...that's my biggest fear. 
    TTC #1 since August 2013
    Unexplained/ Endo
    Medicated IUIs # 1-3 BFN
    IVF #1- BFN
    FET #1- BFP; Ectopic pregnancy found at 7wks
    FET #2- February 2017 BFP  Beta #1- 119 (8dp5dt) Beta #2- 475 (12dp5dt)
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