September 2016 Moms

Annoying Moms

I'm hugely pregnant with baby number 3!! And I am always getting advice or tips about things that I have mastered. How do you respond to the critics without losing patience??

Re: Annoying Moms

  • I generally just nod my head, tell them how we run things in our house and press. It's just one of those things that you have to let roll off your back.

    I get first time parents preaching to me about breastfeeding or what caused our youngest son to "get" autism all the time and I just hear what they have to say, hold my tongue if I feel like I'm really going to lose my mind and let it out later. At the end of the day, you have to do what's best for you and your family and unless they are there pitching in 24/7 then their opinion or advice doesn't hold much merit. But it's always good to hear them out you never know if you'll learn something new 
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  • KimmySchmidtKimmySchmidt member
    edited August 2016
    I have the opposite problem, where people think I have my sh*t together, but I'm really just trying to fake it til I make it.

    No one has offered advice, outside of gentle encouragement to get a csection. (And that advice is coming from people familiar with my last experience.)
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  • I get a lot of unsolicited advice from my sisters/mom.  My sisters both have 3.5 yr old and my son is 2 so every time he goes through a new 'phase' I get the low down on how to deal with it or a new book to read.  My sister recently told me there are 3 types of toddlers while my son was having a melt down: the crazy independant wild ones (like my nephew), the sensitive calm needy ones (like mine), and the normal ones (like hers).  I just smiled and nodded until she went away. Anyone that thinks there are only 3 types of toddlers, or humans for that matter, doesn't get any of my attention.  Your kids are your kids and you are the only and best one that knows how to care for them. 

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  • I am so done hearing breastfeeding advice.  If I want advice I will ask.  After getting a ton of advice that I don't want, I posted an article to my Facebook page about how breastfeeding is a choice, my body my choice etc.  I explained that I am going to try breastfeeding but if it doesn't work out, I will not feel guilty about switching to formula.  Most of the comments were like "great you will feed your kid."  A few people went on and on about how important it is breastfeed and how spiritual or beautiful etc.  I don't care.  I am very ambivalent on the topic.  My sisters and I were bottle fed, my husband was breast fed, we all turned out great. 

  • I don't get "advice" per se, but I get told a lot how things will go, especially regarding certain products I want. Like "oh you'll never use that baby carrier, babies hate them once they are older and much prefer a stroller..." or "you'll definitely want an [obscure product we definitely don't need] because [reason that is totally ridiculous]." As in you definitely need a wipes warmer since your baby will be born in the fall and it will be cold at night. "You don't need a jogging stroller - you won't run at all once the baby is here..." 

    And things like "You can definitely travel 10 hrs by car (that is 10 hours without making extra stops to accommodate a baby, btw....) for Thanksgiving - we drove that far when our daughter was 6 months old" (because apparently a 6 month old is the same as a two month old, and also our kids will be identical). Or my kid was 10 lbs, so yours will be, too. Like wtf?!
  • I'm with you @Rebecca&Raphael on the breastfeeding advice.  I will say that I am proud to be a formula feeding mom and I will tell anyone who asks what my plan is without regret of my choice.  It is my body and it is my choice.  I even had to put DH in his place when he tried to convince me that I should try it this time because I didn't do it with the boys.  I kindly told him that I have never had that desire to breastfeed and formula feeding works for us as a family and our careers and until he can start producing milk out of his boobs to share the job then to zip it.  LOL We as mom's know what we can handle and know when enough is enough.  At the end of the day, happy and healthy babies are what matter.

    @PoodleDoodleOoo I got the same thing from some friends/co-workers regarding some products I was looking into because their kids didn't like it or they know of a friend whose kid didn't like it.  I bought it anyway because it's what I want for my kid.  Now if people come ask me about a particular product or category of products (i.e. double stroller, car seat, etc.) then I will tell them what I've had experience with and why I like or dislike that product. 

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  • I take everything I hear with a grain of salt, or at least I try to. If you're not family or a friend, or we're not socially acquainted at all, then you shouldn't be offering me advice anyway. Right now, though, the only unsolicited advice that doesn't privately drive me up the wall is advice that comes from my Mom and MIL.

    I take given advice with appreciation as much as possible, because I know everyone is just trying to help but sometimes the advice is laced with condescension and that grates on my nerves. I know I'm new at this. I'm a FTM so, no, I don't know what the hell I'm doing, but if I'm really really struggling then I'll ask. Until that point, only gentle suggestions are necessary. I don't need to be told how to do it.

    Example

    Good Advice: "I had trouble BFing in the beginning, if you do too you could always try (blah blah blah), it worked for me!"

    Bad Advice: "BFing is difficult and you'll probably have trouble. You need to do (blah blah blah) to make it easier."

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  • My issue this afternoon is "perfect" Facebook mom's. My cousin posted about how disgusted she is by a driver she saw smoking in the car with his supposed child. I don't condon this behavior I think smoking is a disgusting habit and I wouldn't do it around my own children. My issue is my cousin has made her own very questionable parenting choices like letting her two and six year olds have sips of beer. So I guess my issue is she to judge the other parent then have all of her sanctimonious friends comment about it drives me nuts. 
  • @ CRich15 I know what you mean. I love my kid but she is also a very head strong pain in the butt who loves to do the complete opposite of what is asked of her. I make sure to share the good with the ridiculous. 
  • I have a coworker who has 2 kids and is always the one who wants to 'blame the parents'. Every news story where a kid gets hurt/killed. It is the parents fault. Yesterday she went on a rant about the kid who died in on the water slide. She said it's the parents fault for letting them on the ride. 

    ummm wat? If I go to a theme park I assume the ride is safe even if it looks like the scariest ride ever. Maybe it is a bad assumption but I really find it hard to believe you can blame the parents. 
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  • @Flowr4246 OMG basically suggesting that a 1 year old goes on diet! I would have stabbed D!
  • @Flowr4246 I can only hope that her 2nd pregnancy/labor is as enjoyable as this one has been.  By enjoyable I mean a freaking living hell.  I had the glorious pregnancy with my first and now I would give anything to have that back.

    Like your cousin in law, I had a doctor telling me that my son needed to be placed on a diet at.... 3 months old.  Um, the kid is still on formula and that formula has to have rice infused into it because of his acid reflux.  He was always in the 70s and 80th percentile for height and weight and while he was a little plump, he has since leaned out and barely weighs 40lbs at 4 years old.  Some people whether they be family or professionals just need to learn to shut their mouth!

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  • A 1 and a 1/2 year old that can "read"....that's rich!
  • Moms who ask me what I plan to do for this, this or that or who strike up a conversation with me about baby stuff and then offer pessimistic statements or get weirdly offended by my preferences.

    I have been told "Oh, you'll change your mind on that!" one too many times. How do you know I'm going to change my mind? Maybe I will, but maybe I won't! You're assuming that because I'm a FTM and (legitimately) don't know how difficult things can get that I'm making pie in the sky plans that I won't be able to achieve.

    Case in point: Cloth diapering. I've had mothers practically roll their eyes at me in that "knowing way" and say things like "There's nothing wrong with disposables" and "You'll get so tired of that" and the ever dreaded "You'll change your mind."  Only to find out that said ladies never even TRIED cloth diapering. So, how do you know?!

    And no, there's not a darn thing wrong with using disposable diapers. Just like there's not a darn thing wrong with deciding to dye your hair brown instead of blonde. It's a flipping preference for goodness sake.


    I had a friend who had twins back in March, and she was all "Diapers are so bad for the environment! I'm cloth diapering!" And I admit, I really had to bite my tongue. I told her to expect to do an extra load of laundry per day and wished her luck. I also mentioned that it's not all or nothing like some make it sound. (She can cloth at home and use disposables while out and about, for example.) But I kept my trap shut beyond that.

    Basically, I know HER, and I know that when the chips are down, when she would be really struggling to find her footing as a mother, altruistic concern about the environment was not going to be at her mind's forefront.

    It was not long before I would have been able to say "I told you so" had I actually been rude enough to tell her so. I know plenty of women who cloth diaper and it works for them. I myself have a few cloth diapers that LO uses in the evenings before bed. But it is not for everyone, there is no doubt about that!
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  • @KimmySchmidt While concern for the environment is admirable, it takes a back seat to the other reasons we've decided to go for cloth, including saving money. After sitting down to budget the cost of disposables per month the cloth diapers won by a long shot. 

    I think some of the automatic pessimism stems from an idea that if someone is doing it different or if there's a "natural" label smacked on to it, then that someone must think they're doing it better than anyone else did. 

    I'm glad you were able to let your friend make her plans without popping any of her hope bubbles, though I get that it's hard if someone is coming off any shade of sanctimonious about their preferences. 
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  • My MIL was shocked we are not using cloth diapers.  It just doesn't make sense for us.  She actually offered to give us some of DH's cloth diapers (yes she kept them for 36 years).
  • vampirinavampirina member
    edited August 2016
    On the Cloth debate - I actually really wanted to do cloth, but most daycares in our area won't use them, and DH wasn't really on board so for us it seemed pointless to invest in a stash. 

    And for me it's not about the money or the environment - cloth diapers are straight up CUTER than regular ol pampers with stupid ol elmo on them.

    But when I told a few people we were even just considering cloth they looked at me like I had three turnips growing out of my head. 
  • Here's what I don't understand about the cloth diapering thing...And I'm not trying to challenge anyone, because I'm way too lazy to cloth diaper and have never considered it, so I have no dog in this fight...  But I have a cousin who did it and it seems like she spent an insane amount of money on the covers.  Is it really that big of savings by the time you by the "Banana Butts" covers, as well as the linings and additional detergent, etc. etc. ?
  • @Ssoccerball that's what I've always wondered too. I have friends that cloth diaper and use a service to clean them for them! They are probably spending more. But they are doing it for environmental reasons. To each their own. 
    I couldn't handle the smell. 
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  • @Ssoccerball - I think it also depends. Depends on the diapers you use, whether or not you use a service, how often you also use disposables in addition to cloth and also how many kids will use a single set of cloth diapers. A friend of mine is planning on four kids and is currently cooking #2. She estimates she'll spend around 1,000 TOTAL for all four kids on cloth diapers....

    Not sure if her math is correct, but that's probably a lot less than what she'd spend on diapers if she went with disposables. 
  • Here's what I don't understand about the cloth diapering thing...And I'm not trying to challenge anyone, because I'm way too lazy to cloth diaper and have never considered it, so I have no dog in this fight...  But I have a cousin who did it and it seems like she spent an insane amount of money on the covers.  Is it really that big of savings by the time you by the "Banana Butts" covers, as well as the linings and additional detergent, etc. etc. ?
    The recommendation is to have 24 cloth diapers. If you buy the REALLY expensive ones, then you might be spending hundreds upon hundreds for those 24. However, we're using the Ava brand and you get 6 covers and 6 inserts for about $35.

    We're getting more than 24 diapers just so we won't have to do quite as much laundry on the regular. We've also got extra inserts (more inserts than diapers). Our stash is going to cost us about $250 (that's the diaper covers, the extra inserts, and 100 "flushable" inserts for convenience). Our cloth diapers are adjustable so the same covers will fit a newborn up to toddlerdom. So we've got 2 years of use out of ours for $250 -plus, probably, $100-$200 for new inserts as old ones wear out. Total of $350-$450 for 2 years.

    Let's say you go with Huggies brand and order off Amazon - You can get a month's supply of huggies (246 diapers) for $33. So $250 will get you about 7 months of disposables depending on how often your LO potties. So for 2 years of disposables it's about $857.

    If you go with a more expensive brand like Pampers then you're looking at $60 a month for diapers, thus twice that number in a 2 year period.
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  • BibliobebeBibliobebe member
    edited August 2016
    @Ssoccerball that's what I've always wondered too. I have friends that cloth diaper and use a service to clean them for them! They are probably spending more. But they are doing it for environmental reasons. To each their own. 
    I couldn't handle the smell. 
    Shouldn't be too much different from cloth to disposables. You dump the solids in the toilet and rinse the inserts. You then put the rinsed inserts into a "wet diaper" bag (zippered) until it's ready to be laundered. I wouldn't imagine the smell would be any worse than having used disposable diapers sitting in a diaper pale or a garbage can anywhere.
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  • @Ssoccerball - we discussed cloth diapering with DS and I did the calculations as best I could (there are a lot of variable). It seemed like it would take about a year to break even on the costs of disposable versus cloth. That wasn't taking into account the extra costs of washing the cloth diapers. My DH does a vast majority of the laundry and just didn't feel like the savings was large enough to outweigh the extra laundry of cloth and convenience of disposable.



  • marajay6 said:
    @Ssoccerball - we discussed cloth diapering with DS and I did the calculations as best I could (there are a lot of variable). It seemed like it would take about a year to break even on the costs of disposable versus cloth. That wasn't taking into account the extra costs of washing the cloth diapers. My DH does a vast majority of the laundry and just didn't feel like the savings was large enough to outweigh the extra laundry of cloth and convenience of disposable.
    This.
    While, yes, cloth diapers are cheaper on the face of it, your time has a value. And you spend a LOT more time cloth diapering than you do using disposables. (And I'm sorry, but anyone who says otherwise is delusional). Cloth diapers have existed a long time. If disposables weren't easier, they wouldn't exist.

    It's just that each person has to determine if the value of their time and effort is outweighed by the difference in price between disposables and cloth, or whatever other value you put on the other side of the scale (like the environment.) That equation will work out differently for different folks, obviously.

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  • On the Cloth debate - I actually really wanted to do cloth, but most daycares in our area won't use them, and DH wasn't really on board so for us it seemed pointless to invest in a stash. 

    And for me it's not about the money or the environment - cloth diapers are straight up CUTER than regular ol pampers with stupid ol elmo on them.

    But when I told a few people we were even just considering cloth they looked at me like I had three turnips growing out of my head. 
    Who cares if disposable diapers have sesame street characters on them? Your kid shi*ts in them and then you throw them away! They wear them under their clothes, not to visit the queen.

    You have to be REALLY committed to how diapers look in order to cloth diaper JUST because they're cuter!


    Also if you really do need the stuff in which your child craps to be beautiful, you could go honest co. They're some of the most expensive diapers on the market, but they sure are cute.


    Considering cloth diapering would not make me look at your like you have three turnips growing out of your head. But if it was JUST because they're cute, then yes it would.

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  • I appreciate everyone's responses re:  cloth diapers.  I am not too proud to say that I am a bit of a priss and the idea of washing poop out in the toilet seems gross and totally unnecessary, so I've never really given it a ton of consideration.  But in reading everyone's responses, I can see why some might choose to do it...and for reasons that have nothing to do with being granola.  
  • My sister CD's and her experience is what has convinced me to do it.  Her baby even goes to daycare with them.  Environmental impact was some of it....cost savings using them with multiple children was more....and she so far has had virtually zero blow outs or diaper rash, that sold me.  She's changed to a disposable for overnight BC the cloth was getting too bulky, and disposable for travel, but has a good system down with homemade wipes and all.  So I'm piggy backing off of her advice.  She says she's not sure she'll do it once the baby is past a year and poos get more solid, but to defy blow outs and rash she didn't care if she saved much money or not.  

    She also backs powdered tide! And there are forums out there that will tell you exactly which cycle setting to use for your exact machine.  We're not buying into that overpriced babyganics crap you see out there (ripoff!) 

    To each their own though.  I don't judge anyone for doing one thing or another.  Baby's are humans and God, look at us, were all a different mess in our own way.  What works for one dies NOT work for all ;) 
  • We're going to try cloth diapering primarily, but keeping a small supply of disposables on hand. I'm applying to nursing school and depending on where I go I'll be an exclusive SAHM for 6 months to a year. When I go back to school my mom will be providing day care, and she's totally on board. We figure time is the one thing we've really got, and we have a need to be as frugal as possible with school expenses on top of baby expenses. To be honest, the environmental impact does matter to me; but, not as much as the impact on our budget!

    When we tell people they immediately look at us like we're crazy, but once we explain they're almost always on board. Why can't people ever believe on the face of it that we would make a rational, well thought-out decision?! I hate always feeling like I have to defend our decision; and, that now instead of feeling like I'm going with what works for us and staying flexible I'll be made to feel like a failure if we switch to disposables!
  • DH wanted to CD, mostly for environmental reasons. When I worked in childcare, I had several babies that wore cloth (we allowed it where I worked, parents just had to provide a wetbag). Based on that, I knew it wasn't for me, and I didn't even have to bother with how they got washed. Until we switched to a Prime subscribe and save, I did a good job of shopping for our diapers on sale. DD is almost 2, has worn Pampers her whole life, and I estimate we've spent less than $450 on them. It was a cost that was worth it to me. That said, to each their own. If DH was a a SAHD instead of me being a SAHM, I would have been far more willing to cloth diaper.






  • @camichael84 Same. I based my decision off of daycare experience with it. TOTALLY not for me. DH and I are very environmentally-conscious (recycle everything, compost, etc.), but I refuse to cloth diaper! 
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