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Whooping cough vaccine

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Who all will be getting it in your family? My gut wants literally my entire family that will be in contact with the new baby to get this. 

My in laws are the ones I am not sure if they will be on board.
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  • ajn092ajn092 member
    Ooooh great question!  We're still so early but I have only heard about mom's needing to get vaccinated.  I think if we are vaccinated during the 3rd trimester it will protect baby until they get their shots.  Did a quick search:

    https://www.cdc.gov/features/tdap-in-pregnancy/

    Is it recommended for other family members to get vaccinated as well?
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  • cammlyncammlyn member
    We are super early but working in peds at the hospital I am a planner. I see so many sick babies. I want anyone who is going to touch the baby to have it. Which I know is irritationly 
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  • yellowrose314yellowrose314 member
    Anyone who wants to visit will have to have it. I only have one close friend who has kids who don't have it (she's an anti-vaxxer). She already knows there won't be any plays dates
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  • cammlyncammlyn member
    @yellowrose314 how are you telling people to get it?
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  • tinypikachutinypikachu member
    edited March 2016
    This is a weird issue with my family because I know they won't agree to getting it done. Not because they're against it (they're not) but because they will think it's silly and unnecessary. DH and I will obviously get it and my brother and his wife and kids all have it but it's the parents and other siblings that we know won't do it, not even if we outline all the risks.

    ETA: I don't know how we will try to convince them because we do feel strongly about this. We have some family coming from out of the country that we would like would get the TDAP shot but they won't. 

    My family are all vaccinated, I'm just talking about the booster shot.
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  • yellowrose314yellowrose314 member
    @cammlyn most of my family and friends already know my feelings on people who don't vaccinate (without a legitimate medical reason) so they already know. What scares me is going out and about and having a random infect my child because they didn't vaccinate their kid. No control over that.

    We're also very private people, and have already told friends and family that for the first 2 weeks, unless we ask you to come visit assume were not taking visitors because we want time to adjust to our new family. And in that I was like and please don't plan on stopping by if you're sick or missing vaccinations. Simple as pie for us
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  • ssimon621ssimon621 member
    With my first child I got the vaccine as well as a flu shot and hubby did not.  I did not ask anyone else to get a vaccine, but honestly I am not about to ask 50 family members who will probably see my kid once in 6 months to get vaccinated; it's just not realistic for my life.

    Plus, I have a 4 year old so she can bring in a billion other germs, so why stress about this one???
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    ssimon621 said:
    With my first child I got the vaccine as well as a flu shot and hubby did not.  I did not ask anyone else to get a vaccine, but honestly I am not about to ask 50 family members who will probably see my kid once in 6 months to get vaccinated; it's just not realistic for my life.

    Plus, I have a 4 year old so she can bring in a billion other germs, so why stress about this one???
    Because it can be fatal to a newborn? I've seen kids come into the ER with it, it's horrifying. I would be taking every precaution I could to protect my newborn from getting it before they're able to be vaccinated 
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    I think it is a person family preferences which is okay. But I do plan on asking all of my family to get it. I have just seen to many sick babies. I also plan on asking if you are coming to the hospital to see us that you have it. 
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    yellowrose314 said:
    ssimon621 said:
    With my first child I got the vaccine as well as a flu shot and hubby did not.  I did not ask anyone else to get a vaccine, but honestly I am not about to ask 50 family members who will probably see my kid once in 6 months to get vaccinated; it's just not realistic for my life.

    Plus, I have a 4 year old so she can bring in a billion other germs, so why stress about this one???
    Because it can be fatal to a newborn? I've seen kids come into the ER with it, it's horrifying. I would be taking every precaution I could to protect my newborn from getting it before they're able to be vaccinated 
    That's why it's so stressful. Whooping cough isn't something to be taken lightly. It's extremely dangerous for a baby and can be fatal. It really is horrific when a baby dies over something that could have been prevented.
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    ssimon621 said:
    With my first child I got the vaccine as well as a flu shot and hubby did not.  I did not ask anyone else to get a vaccine, but honestly I am not about to ask 50 family members who will probably see my kid once in 6 months to get vaccinated; it's just not realistic for my life.

    Plus, I have a 4 year old so she can bring in a billion other germs, so why stress about this one???
    This.  I think it's reasonable to ask people who will be spending a significant amount of time with your baby to get the shot, for example if your parents, in-laws of siblings will be helping out in the first few weeks, but it's not reasonable to expect everyone who wants to visit and see the baby to have their shots up to date.  Besides, how will you know?  Are you going to ask to see their records at the door?
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    0SeaMonkey0 said:
    ssimon621 said:
    With my first child I got the vaccine as well as a flu shot and hubby did not.  I did not ask anyone else to get a vaccine, but honestly I am not about to ask 50 family members who will probably see my kid once in 6 months to get vaccinated; it's just not realistic for my life.

    Plus, I have a 4 year old so she can bring in a billion other germs, so why stress about this one???
    This.  I think it's reasonable to ask people who will be spending a significant amount of time with your baby to get the shot, for example if your parents, in-laws of siblings will be helping out in the first few weeks, but it's not reasonable to expect everyone who wants to visit and see the baby to have their shots up to date.  Besides, how will you know?  Are you going to ask to see their records at the door?
    Agreed with not asking everyone who might or might not see baby once in six months. I think we're talking more about people that will be in close contact with the LO after birth, like visiting family and husbands, etc, aka people that will see baby every day for a week or a few weeks after birth. But I have to agree with @yellowrose314 on the dangers of whooping cough. Saying "why stress about this one" makes little sense to me when we're talking about a dangerous disease for a newborn. 
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  • AnnaS930AnnaS930 member
    I got the vaccine and so did my husband last time. We did not have any family that stayed overnight/had extended contact with the baby, so we did not push the issue with them. My sister and BIL were already vaccinated because they have 4 year old twins. We have super respectful family that would never hold/touch/even come close to family when sick so it was never a huge concern. If we had family that was going to be staying with us/holding the baby often, we would be asking them to get the vaccine/explaining to them the risks/offering to pay their copays if insurance didn't cover it fully.
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  • cammlyncammlyn member
    Knottie1456511431 said:
    I am a mother/baby nurse and we suggest that mom and dad get it for sure and then also grandparents (if they will be involved) and whoever will be caring for the baby during the day if you are going back to work. Some of my patients have asked if everyone who comes in contact with the newborn should have the shot. I say in an ideal world, that would be great, but it may be impossible considering all of the people that will probably want to meet baby during the first few months. You are in charge of who visits though, so you can definitely ask that all visitors be vaccinated to be extra safe.

    I just always suggest good handwashing practices for visitors and asking sick people to please not visit! And definitely ensuring that the primary people who will be around baby get the shot! Also, many doctors are encouraging getting the Tdap while pregnant so that mom transfers some antibodies to baby through the placenta. If you wait until you are postpartum and you are breastfeeding, the baby can also get the antibodies through your breastmilk. But I know the recommendation now is to get it during every pregnancy if possible or postpartum if you choose. We have it stocked on our mother/baby floor to give to moms before discharge! We have been told by a CDC rep that the shot is good for 10 years, so your partner and family members will be good to go for that long, unless they want to get a shot with every new baby, which is fine too. But it is still important for moms to get it with every pregnancy! 

    ETA--I am so sorry for the book!! Whooping cough is just really scary in newborns so it's good to have the right info on the Tdap shot!
    Thank you so much for your input that is what I was kinda looking for was a momma baby nurse I know I can always call my doctors office but this helps. My family knows about my hand washing and of yiu even think you might be sick see you on FaceTime lol 
    I know I can't ask everyone that comes to the hospital like I would like to but in my perfect world it works lol
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  • RedMarRedMar member
    @Knottie1456511431 (man your name is tough to tag-lol). I see that you mentioned in your post that it's good for 10 years. Does this mean DH and MIL are good to go from last time? I will be getting it again during my last tri-mester in hopes of passing some antibodies onto LO. 

    Also is there a time of year when Whooping Cough pops up? I'm trying to think of other "reasons" to give my father to get it because he's really bull-headed when it comes to the Dr. 
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  • LeahKnitsLeahKnits member
    My dad just mentioned a couple weeks ago that he had just gotten the whooping cough vaccine. I scolded him for it, and said if I'd know that  I wouldn't have let him near my newborns. My in-laws don't see us enough to worry about it but I don't think it's unreasonable to ask grandparents to get it. DH and I both got it when our first baby was born. 
    It's not that big of a deal to ask somebody to do that. Sort of unrelated, but my sister has an autoimmune disease so she can't be around anybody who gets the flu vaccine in the mist form. So all of her nieces and nephews get the shot instead. And nobody minds at all, because what we want more than anything is for everybody to be healthy. 
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    @RedMar ahh I know, I am actually sunshinern96 but for some reason a couple weeks ago my sn changed to this and I can't get the bump to help me fix it haha...

    Anyway, I know the shot is good for 10 years so anyone who has gotten one in the last 10 years will be fine! But it won't hurt you to get another shot (like how pregnant women do anyway if they have multiple pregnancies within 10 years) so if they want the extra boost of immunity before the next baby, they can get another shot. Or for people who can't remember when they had one, it is totally safe to just get another one. I've seen dads and other family members get a shot for each baby but according to this CDC rep who came and cleared up a bunch of our staff's questions on this, it isn't necessary! I guess it just comes down to personal preference! But most families I have seen have just done the one shot for the partners/grandparents. My DH got a shot with our now 2.5 year old son and I'm not going to have him get another one.

    I don't know about it being more common in certain times of the year but I think if you google it there is a way to see how many cases there have been in your area recently. I am from Cleveland and it is one of the areas where whooping cough is more common. I hope this helps!!
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  • camichael84camichael84 member
    You've already got great advice, but I'll share what we did/are doing. DH and I got a Tdap when I was pregnant for DD. My ILs had all gotten them when my nephew was born 8 months prior to DD. I asked my parents and grandparents to get them before visiting in the hospital, and they all did so. I didn't mention it to any friends, but I didn't figure they'd be around DD much, if at all, at the beginning. I'll get another this pregnancy, but everyone else is still good from the last shot they got.






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  • Cassandraspregnacy2Cassandraspregnacy2 member
    edited March 2016
    Deleted. I would not like to debate the health care of my family. 
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  • 618mom22boys618mom22boys member
    edited March 2016
    DH and I will both be getting, even though I got it 6 years ago.  I'd have to check the last time my 16 year old got it and I might make him get it as well.  The younger ones are fine since they aren't 10 yet.

    ETA:  after googling looks like the 16 y/o is good to as he needed the booster for 7th grade .
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  • Sporty1216Sporty1216 member
    My DH and I both got it last time. He'll be good still since it's only been 2 years. We also asked grandparents who were going to stay with us and help out to get it. Other than that, we trusted that most of our friends who have young kids have had it in the recent past and we stayed away from people who were sick. It's hard for me to find the balance, but I try to do my best to take all precautions we can without making myself totally crazy. I also just kept baby to myself a lot. Or to the grandparents and my husband. I didn't feel a great need to share him around at the start. Still don't, really, but I try. ;)
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  • SLou24SLou24 member
    Last year my good friends had a baby, and they kindly asked all of us who are close (a few close friends, family who would be spending a lot of time with baby) to get the shot. I'll admit that at first I thought it was a silly request (although I did it no questions asked!!), since I'm a FTM and know literally nothing about babies, but I'm thinking I'll do the same. We have a small circle of close friends who will likely spend a decent amount of time here, and I'll probably ask them and my mother/sister to update as well. 
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  • PSUBecky23PSUBecky23 member
    I think the recommendation is that you got one for every pregnancy. So even if you've had one during a pregnancy that was less than ten years ago, you should get another one during this pregnancy. Other people are fine if they're within the ten years. 
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  • crystalraebryantcrystalraebryant member
    I originally just asked that everyone be up to date on their TDAP. (The question was posed to me when relatives asked what vaccines they needed to visit us as we live outside the US. None, but it's always good to use the opportunity to make sure your booster is active.) But after having read this article, I've been considering asking family to update sooner. https://www.m.webmd.com/children/features/whooping-cough-rising-despite-new-vaccine My mom got whooping cough last year even though she'd only had the vaccine six years prior. And they'll be flying through airports to get to us, which gives them a greater chance of picking up something un-fun.
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  • Mgg123Mgg123 member
    Just to clarify another persons comments.... the flu vaccine is not a live virus. 

    So back to the subject.  We had a winter baby last time. I had all grandparents and us get the Dtap vaccine.  I had anyone who wanted to visit the baby have a flu shot.  No exceptions.  I told my side of the family (which is small) and my mother in law spread the word for their very very large family.  Everyone was very respectful.  No issues.  Even my BIL, who is vegan, found a flu vaccine that was not made with egg so he could visit. 

    Our only issue was a peds direct order not to let young children get in the baby's face or hold the baby. At the end of 2014 beginning of 2015 we had a major child "flu" type virus go through our area and killed some kids and hospitalized many.  I had to explain this to my cousin and tell her her boys could not hold the baby as previously planned.  She refused to come to Christmas/the Baptism/etc.  Her comments back to me were rude and ridiculous.  She has been cut from my life and my immediate family supports the decision.  Hell, our close friends had zero issue following this rule with their children, but my cousin did. I will do what is necessary to protect my child.  
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  • Cassandraspregnacy2Cassandraspregnacy2 member
    My LO sees 6 specialist Drs . They said the flu mist is live. And the Rotovirus. 

    My LO has been in and out of the hospital from the vaccine and now other medical reasons her whole life and last year through doing taxes my LO had 78 dr appts with her specialist .
    I trust them and what they say. 
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  • TheTamedShrewTheTamedShrew member
    Cassandraspregnacy2 said:
    We will not be vaccinating and neither will my extended family that will be around the baby.
    My LO had a severe adverse reaction when she received the DTAP. 
    We have literally been struggling since 2 months of age when she received the DTAP . From this she is immunodeficient. And has had to be in a bubble her whole life. 
    If someone receives a flu shot or the rotovirus mist,  because it's a live virus it sheds for up to 2 weeks after given. And is very easy to contact.

    I believe everyone's responsible for their own bodies. 
    Taking care of themselves and making sure if they have any symptoms of sickness to stay away. 

    It is none of my concern who does and who does not inject their own body. It is their own choice and I respect their choice. 
    I'm sorry...what? 
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    Ask your Drs . 

    This is what my LO dr have told us to protect my daughter from (<<anyone>>>) carrying anything. 
    Her WBC is severe low. Her ferritin is non existent. And she has extremely low platlets. 
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    Cassandraspregnacy2 said:
    Ask your Drs . 

    This is what my LO dr have told us to protect my daughter from (<<anyone>>>) carrying anything. 
    Her WBC is severe low. Her ferritin is non existent. And she has extremely low platlets. 
    I'm very sorry to hear that. Are you saying that the DTAP caused her immunodeficiency or that the immunodeficiency caused her reaction to the DTAP?
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  • SuperFudge00SuperFudge00 member
    Everyone in close contact with DS gets these vaccinations. I'm in healthcare, my cousin is his daycare provider and aunt and uncle do foster care. He's now had his vaccinations so I'm less strict. But I do not let antivaxxers around him.

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  • Cassandraspregnacy2Cassandraspregnacy2 member
    edited March 2016
    Deleted. I would not like to debate my family's healthcare. 
    All her blood levels dropped after the vaccine. And started other medical challenges.


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  • rfrazier611rfrazier611 member
    I'll be getting mine again when my ob says it's time.  Other than that, I'm pretty sure everyone that will be in close contact during the first few months is still up to date since we had our son 2.5 years ago, but I'll certainly ask everyone just to be sure.  
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  • Pepper6Pepper6 member
    We only 'required' it for people who were going to be frequent visitors (pretty much just immediate family) and highly encouraged it for everyone else. Since it's only been 2 years since dd, I'm the only one that needs the tdap again, which I'll do around 36 weeks. 
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  • mrsl0429mrsl0429 member
    @cassloumy thank you for this - while some of us may disagree with @Cassandraspregnacy2, I agree, she has a right to her opinion, especially after her experience. I have to say, @cassloumy , yours might be one of the most respectful responses I've seen to something like this. Faith in humanity restored for the day!

    FWIW, I'll be getting the tDap, as will my DH, parents, siblings, and in-laws. I agree with the overall opinion on the board - my kid, my rules. If you can't respect what I'm asking for the safety of my kid, maybe you don't need to be visiting, and I need boundaries with you anyway. My OB made it clear that there have been an influx of cases in my area in the last few years, and I'm not interested in the risk. 
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    d'awww, @mrsl0429 you're making me blush! Thank you!
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