Ladies: how did you deal with bringing a newborn into the relationship with your SO? Any dos and don'ts? I'm having a hard time picturing the transition so thought I'd ask the more experienced bump wizards.
My biggest advice is to not expect too much from your partner. It seems like a lot (not all though) of men have a hard time with the newborn stage. As baby becomes more interactive, men tend to bond more.
My my experience was that those first few weeks were basically my show because I was breastfeeding. He helped where he could, but I just went with the flow with the transition and praised him often to help his confidence caring for LO. The newborn phase is over so fast though!!
As PP said, praise your partner and try not to criticize when he does something differently than you do. As long as baby is fed, warm and loved, it's pretty hard to screw up, and when my husband would hold our son differently than I did it would burp him differently, I would get frustrated and try to "show him the right way" to do it. It took a bit before I realize that baby wasn't screaming when my husband held him a certain way, and he burped even though it was different from how I did it, and that different doesn't equal wrong with a baby (or anything really).
Even though i was BF, my husband would get up and change his diaper and bring him to me at night - but I didn't have to ask him to do that, he just did. Some men just need you to ask. So if you want your H to step up somewhere, ask him nicely! Don't just sit there and get frustrated because he doesn't just see where he could be useful.
having a baby is a big change. And you may go through phases where you and partner get along amazingly well, and others where you bicker constantly. Just try to be flexible and ride it out, and admit when you are wrong and apologize!
Everything @NLewis1 said is also pretty accurate for our house. I'd add that my H asked for reassurance that what he was doing was right pretty often. It took a lot from me, but if baby wasn't crying and the need was met then the answer was yes. If you're comfortable keeping expectations low for your SO then just make sure that you don't let that go on so long that you develop resentment. I can't help but imagine that being hard to emotionally battle through.
I agree with previous posters. Just because your husband may do things differently from you, it doesn't mean that he is doing it wrong, so try not to correct him.
My husband also felt very uneasy about what he should or should not do, so he wound up doing nothing. We wound up getting into a big fight about it, and he ultimately was like "If you need me to do something, just ask, and I will be happy to do it." That opened our communication back up, and things got a lot better. If I had a particularly bad night with the baby, and needed him to do laundry, or just take her for a couple of hours so I could nap, or cook dinner when he got home from work because she had cried all.day.long, he would do it without complaint, but he wasn't great at figuring out what I needed if I didn't tell him.
IMO you need to remember to laugh no matter how stressful it maybe sometimes. I truly feel that's what kept me and H going sometimes. After changing the 5 explosive diaper you maybe overwhelmed but look for some humor in it. H and I are never very serious when we're together, we're that couple who dumps ice cold water over the shower curtain onto the other one, and I'd say try not to forget about those things between the two you.
Also I agree with PP if you're always telling him he's not doing something right chances are he'll stop helping completely. H had never even held a baby before we had DS and he didn't know much but he did just fine. The first time he dressed him was for his first check up. I got there took him out of the car seat and he had his onesie snapped over his pants. I took a picture and laughed it off it wasn't worth a fight and at least he tried.
Its not not easy but as PP's said it doesn't last long and once you both get into the new routine it gets much easier.
With my H, he was terrified to hold our son at first, because he was afraid of hurting him. He had never held a baby, much less a newborn, so it was a learning experience for him. He learned early on that a diaper change is like gold to a new, tired mom. I had to teach him, but he is an expert now. Learn as much as you can together, no matter how trivial it may seem. Communication is such a big part. It's so easy to feel overwhelmed and resentful that you have to do everything (especially if you BF). Also, learn the signs of PPD and make sure he knows the signs. It can sneak up on you so quickly. I'm so glad we are part of a generation where father's are involved. My dad hadn't changed a diaper until my son was almost 1.
Also, learn the signs of PPD and make sure he knows the signs. It can sneak up on you so quickly.
This is GREAT advice. I had PPD after my first daughter was born, but I wasn't sad/crying all the time, so neither of us recognized it until it had been months and months of me just being constantly angry at everyone other than my baby. It took my husband saying "You are not the woman that I married," to make both of us realize that there was something going on that needed to be addressed. New moms and new dads should be familiar with all the ways that PPD/PPA can manifest itself, and I also recommend bringing your husband to any doctor's appointments. I went in on my own, and the doctor I saw totally blew me off. I went back a second time with my husband, and he was able to back me up with things that he had noticed and say to the doctor "I'm telling you, there is something not right." I needed that support.
I agree with all the comments on just letting dad do it his way as long as it's safe for the baby. As for your marriage it might be a hard couple months the baby will sleep a lot so we would have date nights at home and order take out and get a redbox just keep spend time together. Also learn to be a team and give him things that are his my DH always liked bath time and since I was always pumping he washed my pump parts and bottles. Just make sure he has a role that way you don't get stuck doing it all and resenting him for it.
Treat your husband/partner like a competent human who can figure this out just like you can. I sometimes think moms feel like they have some instinctual knowledge base that men are missing. Often i think it's a confidence thing, they look to you because they think you know, and you take over because things need to get done. I think being honest with your husband when you don't know what to do helps - my husband would try to hand the baby off when she was crying because I was breast feeding. Eventually I had to tell him that he needed to figure something out because I needed a break! Also, try not to rescue him if he's trying to figure out his own way to soothe baby, feed baby, burb baby.
This is an awesome thread. H and I will have pretty equal alone time with baby because he works nights and I work days. He'll have to learn to do things without me that might not be "my way" and my Type A bad self is just going to have to learn to deal with it.
The comment about treating him as competent and not as any less capable than I am is a really good point that I'm going to have to work on. Just being married I've had to learn that I have to ask if I want something done. I don't think I should HAVE to ask my H to wash the sink full of dishes or to tell him that I expect to be celebrated on Mother's Day this year but I do because that's just how his brain operates and things get done and then we're both happier. So I'm glad I have a little practice in that area already.
Thanks for starting this thread! And thanks for all of your wisdom STMs. You guys are the best.
Treat your husband/partner like a competent human who can figure this out just like you can. I sometimes think moms feel like they have some instinctual knowledge base that men are missing. Often i think it's a confidence thing, they look to you because they think you know, and you take over because things need to get done. I think being honest with your husband when you don't know what to do helps - my husband would try to hand the baby off when she was crying because I was breast feeding. Eventually I had to tell him that he needed to figure something out because I needed a break! Also, try not to rescue him if he's trying to figure out his own way to soothe baby, feed baby, burb baby.
We were prepared for me to have PPD because I have a history of depression. In fact, I went on an antidepressant during my ninth month on my midwife's recommendation. But neither of us realized that it would take the form it did. I didn't feel depressed -- I felt angry and frustrated. All the time. Mostly at my husband. And he was the one who had to take over when the baby was inconsolable, figure out that breastfeeding wasn't working, encourage me to get on a stronger dose, adjust my expectations, get enough sleep, etc., and he had to do it all while recognizing that when I snapped at him (many times a day), it wasn't really about him and what he was doing. I had tons of experience with babies, and he had none, but he really had to step up and be there even though he didn't know much about what he was doing.
I will be completely honest: Things were rocky for a long time. And I have friends for whom that has been true even without the added complication of PPD. But almost every couple I know has made it through that rough time. One thing that I know only makes it worse, both from my own experience and from watching my friends' experiences, is treating your husband like he is doing things wrong and/or not affording him the opportunity to learn how to parent in his own way.
Once you get through the overwhelming newborn phase, come up for air and notice that you are in some sort of groove. It will be different than before, but you will both be coping & getting into a new rhythm, even if it's in fits & starts. Once you hit that spot (and actually, maybe even before), remember to prioritize your relationship as well. Sexy nights out on the town and kid-free weekend getaways may be a pipe dream for a while, but make a point of talking about something other than the baby, taking advantage of baby's naps to watch a movie (or at least part of one), eat an adult meal, have a drink, etc. And when you're at your wit's end with everything, remember why you fell for him & wanted to have a baby with him:)
My and my H's relationship works best when we have our expectations laid out ahead of time - by which I mean we have an established pattern for how necessary stuff will get done in our household, who will do it, and when/how often. So when we added D into the mix, we had to renegotiate some of that stuff, because there was a new assortment of tasks that had to be handled as well. Understand that while the shuffle of rearranging your life's structure is happening (the first month or two is the worst, in this regard) some things might fall to the wayside, and talk about it ahead of time so you can both be on the same page about which items are non-negotiable, and which can slip a bit. For example, I can't handle it if the kitchen gets totally out of control, so we have to keep on top of that, but if we skip a bathroom cleaning here and there, it doesn't change my quality of life that much. Prioritize the stuff that makes the biggest difference for each of you, and trust that a new normal will emerge from the craziness.
And yeah, dads are totally great at being competent, give them the chance! Plus their hilarious outfit choices are great practice for when you start letting your toddler pick out their own clothes.
Yes! All of this! My H was actually pretty great, more so then I expected. Our first night in the hospital he did have to pull the baby bed over to my bed (had a c sec and couldn't get up) while I told him step by step directions on how to change his diaper. After that, I feel like we figured everything out together with a little bit of guidance from my maternal instincts. Dont be shocked if your husband does surprise you. Mine jumped in head first right with me and I was so grateful for it. I definitely try and let him know that. I second the don't treat him as incompetent thing too. I always find myself giving him a list of things to remember when I leave him alone with DS and he gets really upset that I think I have to tell him how to handle our child. our son definitely strengthened our relationship!
Thanks for starting this thread and for all you fantastic STMs for contributing! I'm also pretty nervous about how this new journey is going to change our dynamic as husband and wife. I agree w @ahernandez16, the thing I'm going to have to remember most is that he's in the trenches with me and I'll need to make sure to spell out what I need instead of getting mad that he doesn't know.
And I completely second that we all deserve to be celebrated for Mother's Day this year because we've been mom's the second we saw those 2 pink lines!
I agree with everything everyone has said, especially about laying out expectations ahead of time! I like to process everything out loud and my husband is not like this at all. But I feel like I will have less anxiety if he knows where I'm coming from.
The one thing I'll add is that this is an on-going thing! My DS is almost 2 years old and my DH and I are still ironing out the parenting thing! On Friday, my DH wanted to watch SouthPaw on DVD, but I felt like my DS shouldn't be watching all the fighting. My DH initially thought I was being ridiculous but came back a couple days later and told me after thinking about it and watching how much my DS takes things in, he agreed with me. Its hard because I don't want to bulldoze over what my DH thinks and I know I'm a lot more overprotective, but there are some things I feel pretty strong about. I definitely have to pick my battles (with both my DS and DH!), there are things I have to let go of just so I'm not always telling my DH what to do!
I second that it's a continuing process. My son is three, and my husband and I have conversations all the time about how we are going to/have handled certain parenting situations so that we are on the same page on the major issues. I also have to remind myself that for some things, my husband is still going to do it differently, and I have to be OK with that. Now that my son is old enough to realize he can try to ask the other parent after he didn't get the response he wanted from the first parent, we know to check with the other parent first to make sure we're not undermining what the other parent said. We want to be on the same page so as not to confuse him about the rules.
Yes to everything PP have said. DH and I talked about this last night even.
To echo so many other posts, just because your husband does something differently doesn't mean he's doing it wrong. So many times in the last couple months I would get frustrated because he would do something differently than me. It took me a while to realize that just because DH gave DS his bottle differently than me didn't make it wrong.
Also, communicate. So often I would get DS around and ready to go places in the morning, and then hand him off to DH so I could pee or grab breakfast. I would be so angry when DH was just playing with DS instead of finishing packing the diaper bag or getting shoes on him. I was so frustrated that I had to do everything.... but I never asked DH to finish packing the diaper bag or get shoes or a coat on DS. He didn't realize those things still needed to get done, and once I asked, he didn't hesitate to do them.
And as PP said, you and DH should know the symptoms of PPD. DH had a class during our childbirthing/parenting classes that covered many of the symptoms, and that helped so much. I PP anxiety immediately after getting home and then I had PPD about 4 months PP. Having a husband who understood this and took it seriously helped so, so much.
I think it's critical to always assume positive intent - especially if you know your husband generally isn't an a-hole. Communication is HARD when you're both sleep deprived. You will speak like cave men and women and wish the other person could read your mind. It will be frustrating. Assuming positive intent when the message is turse and confusing helps a lot.
Also, as to the PP's comment not to expect much of the husband in the newborn stage: You know your spouse's capabilities best but I think many men are very capable and adept at helping in this stage. It can help if he has duties which he feels good at: swaddling, bouncing, taking for walks, bathing and of course, taking care of you!
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My my experience was that those first few weeks were basically my show because I was breastfeeding. He helped where he could, but I just went with the flow with the transition and praised him often to help his confidence caring for LO. The newborn phase is over so fast though!!
Even though i was BF, my husband would get up and change his diaper and bring him to me at night - but I didn't have to ask him to do that, he just did. Some men just need you to ask. So if you want your H to step up somewhere, ask him nicely! Don't just sit there and get frustrated because he doesn't just see where he could be useful.
having a baby is a big change. And you may go through phases where you and partner get along amazingly well, and others where you bicker constantly. Just try to be flexible and ride it out, and admit when you are wrong and apologize!
fyi - this is all just my personal experience!
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My husband also felt very uneasy about what he should or should not do, so he wound up doing nothing. We wound up getting into a big fight about it, and he ultimately was like "If you need me to do something, just ask, and I will be happy to do it." That opened our communication back up, and things got a lot better. If I had a particularly bad night with the baby, and needed him to do laundry, or just take her for a couple of hours so I could nap, or cook dinner when he got home from work because she had cried all.day.long, he would do it without complaint, but he wasn't great at figuring out what I needed if I didn't tell him.
Also I agree with PP if you're always telling him he's not doing something right chances are he'll stop helping completely. H had never even held a baby before we had DS and he didn't know much but he did just fine. The first time he dressed him was for his first check up. I got there took him out of the car seat and he had his onesie snapped over his pants. I took a picture and laughed it off it wasn't worth a fight and at least he tried.
Its not not easy but as PP's said it doesn't last long and once you both get into the new routine it gets much easier.
Communication is such a big part. It's so easy to feel overwhelmed and resentful that you have to do everything (especially if you BF). Also, learn the signs of PPD and make sure he knows the signs. It can sneak up on you so quickly. I'm so glad we are part of a generation where father's are involved. My dad hadn't changed a diaper until my son was almost 1.
The comment about treating him as competent and not as any less capable than I am is a really good point that I'm going to have to work on. Just being married I've had to learn that I have to ask if I want something done. I don't think I should HAVE to ask my H to wash the sink full of dishes or to tell him that I expect to be celebrated on Mother's Day this year but I do because that's just how his brain operates and things get done and then we're both happier. So I'm glad I have a little practice in that area already.
Thanks for starting this thread! And thanks for all of your wisdom STMs. You guys are the best.
We were prepared for me to have PPD because I have a history of depression. In fact, I went on an antidepressant during my ninth month on my midwife's recommendation. But neither of us realized that it would take the form it did. I didn't feel depressed -- I felt angry and frustrated. All the time. Mostly at my husband. And he was the one who had to take over when the baby was inconsolable, figure out that breastfeeding wasn't working, encourage me to get on a stronger dose, adjust my expectations, get enough sleep, etc., and he had to do it all while recognizing that when I snapped at him (many times a day), it wasn't really about him and what he was doing. I had tons of experience with babies, and he had none, but he really had to step up and be there even though he didn't know much about what he was doing.
I will be completely honest: Things were rocky for a long time. And I have friends for whom that has been true even without the added complication of PPD. But almost every couple I know has made it through that rough time. One thing that I know only makes it worse, both from my own experience and from watching my friends' experiences, is treating your husband like he is doing things wrong and/or not affording him the opportunity to learn how to parent in his own way.
Once you get through the overwhelming newborn phase, come up for air and notice that you are in some sort of groove. It will be different than before, but you will both be coping & getting into a new rhythm, even if it's in fits & starts. Once you hit that spot (and actually, maybe even before), remember to prioritize your relationship as well.
Sexy nights out on the town and kid-free weekend getaways may be a pipe dream for a while, but make a point of talking about something other than the baby, taking advantage of baby's naps to watch a movie (or at least part of one), eat an adult meal, have a drink, etc. And when you're at your wit's end with everything, remember why you fell for him & wanted to have a baby with him:)
My and my H's relationship works best when we have our expectations laid out ahead of time - by which I mean we have an established pattern for how necessary stuff will get done in our household, who will do it, and when/how often. So when we added D into the mix, we had to renegotiate some of that stuff, because there was a new assortment of tasks that had to be handled as well. Understand that while the shuffle of rearranging your life's structure is happening (the first month or two is the worst, in this regard) some things might fall to the wayside, and talk about it ahead of time so you can both be on the same page about which items are non-negotiable, and which can slip a bit. For example, I can't handle it if the kitchen gets totally out of control, so we have to keep on top of that, but if we skip a bathroom cleaning here and there, it doesn't change my quality of life that much. Prioritize the stuff that makes the biggest difference for each of you, and trust that a new normal will emerge from the craziness.
Dont be shocked if your husband does surprise you. Mine jumped in head first right with me and I was so grateful for it. I definitely try and let him know that. I second the don't treat him as incompetent thing too. I always find myself giving him a list of things to remember when I leave him alone with DS and he gets really upset that I think I have to tell him how to handle our child.
our son definitely strengthened our relationship!
Thanks for starting this thread and for all you fantastic STMs for contributing! I'm also pretty nervous about how this new journey is going to change our dynamic as husband and wife. I agree w @ahernandez16, the thing I'm going to have to remember most is that he's in the trenches with me and I'll need to make sure to spell out what I need instead of getting mad that he doesn't know.
And I completely second that we all deserve to be celebrated for Mother's Day this year because we've been mom's the second we saw those 2 pink lines!
I agree with everything everyone has said, especially about laying out expectations ahead of time! I like to process everything out loud and my husband is not like this at all. But I feel like I will have less anxiety if he knows where I'm coming from.
The one thing I'll add is that this is an on-going thing! My DS is almost 2 years old and my DH and I are still ironing out the parenting thing! On Friday, my DH wanted to watch SouthPaw on DVD, but I felt like my DS shouldn't be watching all the fighting. My DH initially thought I was being ridiculous but came back a couple days later and told me after thinking about it and watching how much my DS takes things in, he agreed with me. Its hard because I don't want to bulldoze over what my DH thinks and I know I'm a lot more overprotective, but there are some things I feel pretty strong about. I definitely have to pick my battles (with both my DS and DH!), there are things I have to let go of just so I'm not always telling my DH what to do!
To echo so many other posts, just because your husband does something differently doesn't mean he's doing it wrong. So many times in the last couple months I would get frustrated because he would do something differently than me. It took me a while to realize that just because DH gave DS his bottle differently than me didn't make it wrong.
Also, communicate. So often I would get DS around and ready to go places in the morning, and then hand him off to DH so I could pee or grab breakfast. I would be so angry when DH was just playing with DS instead of finishing packing the diaper bag or getting shoes on him. I was so frustrated that I had to do everything.... but I never asked DH to finish packing the diaper bag or get shoes or a coat on DS. He didn't realize those things still needed to get done, and once I asked, he didn't hesitate to do them.
And as PP said, you and DH should know the symptoms of PPD. DH had a class during our childbirthing/parenting classes that covered many of the symptoms, and that helped so much. I PP anxiety immediately after getting home and then I had PPD about 4 months PP. Having a husband who understood this and took it seriously helped so, so much.
BFP #4: 8/20/15 EDD: 4/26/18
Also, as to the PP's comment not to expect much of the husband in the newborn stage: You know your spouse's capabilities best but I think many men are very capable and adept at helping in this stage. It can help if he has duties which he feels good at: swaddling, bouncing, taking for walks, bathing and of course, taking care of you!