July 2016 Moms

People stating they're the godparents???

We hadn't really talked about who we would have as godparents. I know I a specific set of values and morals that I have always believed in. I want the godparents we choose to model these as well. Last week, his sister just stated that she was the god mother of our child and her mother agreed. Has anyone ever had this happened? How did you deal with it? How do I approach it without causing problems? 

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  • My sister thinks I'll ask her and my grandma brings it up every time I talk to her, I just tell her DH and I haven't decided who we're having as godparents yet. 
  • Ugh! The nerve of some people. I would nip that shit in the bud immediately. 
  • We've both have stated that we still need to think about it. But my biggest worry is causing any friction. Plus being nice seems to not register. I think i am going to have to be blunt which can step on some toes. 
  • During my wedding my husbands BFF, who is female, and my Friend said that if we had a boy my husbands friend would be god mother and my friend would take girl. Well we are having a girl and my friend assumed she is th god mother. I am a believer but not really religious. I'm allowing her to think that she is the god mother but that holds no real value to me. If anything were to happen to my husband or I she would not be getting my daughter. We are appointing one person to be that person for our children. 
    I might be taking the easy way out but that is what is working for me at the moment. 
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  • Ahh so awkward! I agree with PPs that you better clarify this with them NOW. Both of our siblings have hinted that they're interested in being the godparents of our baby but we've told everyone that we won't be deciding until after the baby is born. This is totally your decision- you decide when you pick the godparents and who you pick as godparents. Don't feel pressured to make any decisions until you're ready!
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  • We have a no family as godparent rule kind of for this reason. Everyone in our family assumed it would be them - so we said our family already has a special relationship and we don't want to complicate that.

    But seriously - tell them that it hasn't been decided yet! Good luck - that is a situation full of awkward.
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    Yeah, nip it in the bud ASAP. We don't even do the godparent thing but if someone claimed it, we'd be quick to shut it down.
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  • **CATHOLICISM QUESTION**

    I am Baptist, which means baptism doesn't occur until the child is older and chooses to be baptized. My husband's family is Catholic and have asked that the baby be baptized Catholic ("just in case"). I don't really care if she is since to me, it doesn't mean anything for a child that young, but it puts me in an awkward position of having to choose HIS family for godparents, as that is the Catholic way. My husband identifies as Christian but not Catholic, and he doesn't want to cause any friction.

    I did this once already for my first child (my ex was also from a Catholic family) and I've always felt weird about my ex-SIL and my ex's BF being the godparents. Are there Catholic churches that don't require godparents to be Catholic? If my sister and her husband were baptized Catholic as babies, even if they aren't practicing Catholics, can they still qualify?

    Either way, it is unlikely that any of these people would be guardians if my mother is still healthy and able to take them on.


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    LadyFleck said:

    **CATHOLICISM QUESTION**

    I am Baptist, which means baptism doesn't occur until the child is older and chooses to be baptized. My husband's family is Catholic and have asked that the baby be baptized Catholic ("just in case"). I don't really care if she is since to me, it doesn't mean anything for a child that young, but it puts me in an awkward position of having to choose HIS family for godparents, as that is the Catholic way. My husband identifies as Christian but not Catholic, and he doesn't want to cause any friction.

    I did this once already for my first child (my ex was also from a Catholic family) and I've always felt weird about my ex-SIL and my ex's BF being the godparents. Are there Catholic churches that don't require godparents to be Catholic? If my sister and her husband were baptized Catholic as babies, even if they aren't practicing Catholics, can they still qualify?

    Either way, it is unlikely that any of these people would be guardians if my mother is still healthy and able to take them on.


    I'm not catholic, but from what I've read on other boards it's up to the church/priest. Some are more lax on who "qualifies" as a godparent. Some make the godparents take a class. 

    Personally, my daughter was dedicated in the church I attend (which is just a small ceremony saying we will raise our child in the church and to have Christian values; think marriage ceremony with vows you make there). My husband doesn't attend with me, but holds very similar beliefs. His mom threw a fit, but since DD is OUR daughter, he told her that she has no say in how she is raised. If it is something that makes you uncomfortable and isn't important to your husband, then I would suggest the two of you have an honest conversation about it. If you decide not to, his family needs to hush and respect that decision as YOU are the parents, not the inlaws. 


    ETA: godparents and guardians are not the same. 
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    @LadyFleck My dad is a deacon and I had the same question so I asked him. One needs to be baptized Catholic. The other needs to be at least baptized in some Christian based faith. And they don't have to be practicing. There is no way for anyone to check if they are anyway. 

    Also, Godparents are not the same as a guardian.
  • To be baptized Catholic, it needs to be everyone Catholic. I'm kinda surprised your first was baptized Catholic and your not. But by any means, choose someone who you know would raise your child the same way you intend to. God parents usually play a big roll in your child's life. For our family, God parents are like a second set of parents but don't over step on the parents and they teach the child about the religion and Church.  
  • Thank you all for reassuring me that this is not okay behaivor. Sometimes i just need to step back and make sure I'm not overreacting. 

    To answer the other question, contact your church to verify. You don't have to be catholic to have kids baptized as catholic. My mother wasnt catholic and we're all catholic. Second, we're our best friend's baby godparents and I'm confirmed catholic while my husband is only baptized. Our church said he would be considered a witness but I'd be considered the godparent. Our friends were okay because we all understood that we both would help guide her child through religion even though the church has specific rules. 
  • Oh, I'm aware that godparent and guardian are two completely different concepts. I just had a question about the religious aspect of the godparent thing. I already know that if I croak, my ex won't even raise my son religiously....I just have to make peace with that and hope he comes to the light later in life like I did.

    I have a bit more control over my daughter's religious upbringing considering her father isn't a total asshole (haha!). I would love my sister and her husband to be the godparents as I believe they absolutely would take responsibility for overseeing her religious upbringing, but I wanted to combine both family's traditions/faiths and honor my husband's Catholic belief but ensure my sister could be named "official" godparent.

    Like I said, logistically, my mother would become guardian if something ever happened to me/my husband as she is young and my sister already has four of her own children to raise.

  • LadyFleck said:

    **CATHOLICISM QUESTION**

    I am Baptist, which means baptism doesn't occur until the child is older and chooses to be baptized. My husband's family is Catholic and have asked that the baby be baptized Catholic ("just in case"). I don't really care if she is since to me, it doesn't mean anything for a child that young, but it puts me in an awkward position of having to choose HIS family for godparents, as that is the Catholic way. My husband identifies as Christian but not Catholic, and he doesn't want to cause any friction.

    I did this once already for my first child (my ex was also from a Catholic family) and I've always felt weird about my ex-SIL and my ex's BF being the godparents. Are there Catholic churches that don't require godparents to be Catholic? If my sister and her husband were baptized Catholic as babies, even if they aren't practicing Catholics, can they still qualify?

    Either way, it is unlikely that any of these people would be guardians if my mother is still healthy and able to take them on.



    I think PP's already answered your questions, but I just wanted to add that I was a "stand in godparent" for my nephew.  The person my sister chose to be his godmother was not baptized, so the church wouldn't allow her to be the person standing with him during the ceremony.  Honestly, it was kind of weird, but whatever.  I was baptized, but am not practicing now, so fit the requirements.  I think in my sisters case she wanted the godparent and guardian to be the same person (even though in reality they're not and have different roles) so required a stand in for the religious ceremony.
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  • LadyFleck said:

    **CATHOLICISM QUESTION**

    I am Baptist, which means baptism doesn't occur until the child is older and chooses to be baptized. My husband's family is Catholic and have asked that the baby be baptized Catholic ("just in case"). I don't really care if she is since to me, it doesn't mean anything for a child that young, but it puts me in an awkward position of having to choose HIS family for godparents, as that is the Catholic way. My husband identifies as Christian but not Catholic, and he doesn't want to cause any friction.

    I did this once already for my first child (my ex was also from a Catholic family) and I've always felt weird about my ex-SIL and my ex's BF being the godparents. Are there Catholic churches that don't require godparents to be Catholic? If my sister and her husband were baptized Catholic as babies, even if they aren't practicing Catholics, can they still qualify?

    Either way, it is unlikely that any of these people would be guardians if my mother is still healthy and able to take them on.


    Different churches do things differently. I'm not Catholic, but my goddaughter is. I don't believe her Godfather is Catholic either but I'm not sure. My understanding is that some strict Catholic priests/Churches require both godparents to be practicing Catholics, with proof. Some require at least one of the godparents be a practicing Catholic, and the other doesn't have to be. And some don't have rules regarding the religion of the godparents. The church my friend goes to is quite relaxed obviously, so it was a nonissue, but I don't think that's the norm.
  • If it was me I would nip it in the bud and tell family members that we would be choosing the godparents without input from others. How polite or blunt I was would depend on how rude they were being about it.

    If you want to avoid hurt feelings or drama, you could tell them that you've decided to choose non-family members. You could just tell her that she already gets to have a special relationship with the baby as it's Aunt, and that the title of Godparent will go to a non-relative who you want to honour as part of your family (assuming this is true).
  • LadyFleck said:

    **CATHOLICISM QUESTION**

    I am Baptist, which means baptism doesn't occur until the child is older and chooses to be baptized. My husband's family is Catholic and have asked that the baby be baptized Catholic ("just in case"). I don't really care if she is since to me, it doesn't mean anything for a child that young, but it puts me in an awkward position of having to choose HIS family for godparents, as that is the Catholic way. My husband identifies as Christian but not Catholic, and he doesn't want to cause any friction.

    I did this once already for my first child (my ex was also from a Catholic family) and I've always felt weird about my ex-SIL and my ex's BF being the godparents. Are there Catholic churches that don't require godparents to be Catholic? If my sister and her husband were baptized Catholic as babies, even if they aren't practicing Catholics, can they still qualify?

    Either way, it is unlikely that any of these people would be guardians if my mother is still healthy and able to take them on.


    As PP's mentioned, it really depends on the church/priest. My husband and I were asked to stand in as godparents for a family friend's daughter because, of their original choices (MH's sister and brother-in-law), one was not Catholic, while the other was and they were married outside the Catholic Church. MH was baptized in the United Church of Christ, and I was baptized and confirmed Catholic - our marriage vows were validated by the Catholic Church. The particular priest performing this ceremony requested a letter from our church confirming this fact pattern, after which we were approved to be godparents. I guess they just wanted to make sure that each of us had received at least one sacrament in the Catholic Church? However, during the ceremony, MH's sister and brother-in-law still stood at the altar with us, blessed the baby and said the vows at the same time.

    When my son was baptized, the priest just asked if both of the godparents were confirmed. No documentation was necessary/no hoops to jump through.
  • no one has specifically put dibs on god parent but everyone I talk to assumes they're going to be called Aunt So and So... I just sorta laugh and go with it...
  • no one has specifically put dibs on god parent but everyone I talk to assumes they're going to be called Aunt So and So... I just sorta laugh and go with it...
    Right!! I get that too! I laugh and go with it... Thenwonder hmmm I like you guys but do I really want my kid calling all of my friends Aunt/Uncle?!
  • I only have one friend that DS calls auntie.
  • We are Catholic. Our church are very strict on the rules. They have to be active members of the Catholic Church, with all the correct sacraments up to that point. If they are married, it is to be in the Church or "blessed" by the Church.
    It is hard to find some one that fits all that. DH's brother does, he is not married (because he is gay.... minor detail). My brother and sister are married outside of the church. My mom was too, but since my dad died, she is no longer 'married' and meet the requirements.

    In many Churches, there are some 'sponsors' that are willing to be God parents for those that are in need.
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  • Also, anyone over the age of 65 automatically assumes they'll be the grandparents... It's quite strange
  • @ladyfleck check with the church where the baptism will occur. There only needs to be one "formal" Godparent. My BFF stood up as Godmother for the christening even though she's not confirmed or practicing Catholic. My BIL met all the requirements for Godfather so he's the official one and I don't think the church recognizes my BFF but they don't need to. I do ;)
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    Has anyone else dealt with the problem of literally no one being a suitable guardian? If so wth do you do?
    my parents are a no. 
    our siblings absolutely not. 
    His mom has too many health issues and his dad remarried a crazy person otherwise his dad would be it. 
    My best friend wouldn't have a clue what to do with three boys.
    this bothers me! A lot
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    @m8881 Do you or your husband have any cousins that would work? We went outside of the family for ours. Both of our parents were young when they had kids and are finally getting to live their lives now that they are retired, so we didn't want to leave our kids with our parents. My older sister bounces from relationship to relationship, and I don't want my kids going through that. My younger brother was a bachelor and in his early 20's when DD was born...I didn't want something to happen and him all of a sudden having a kid, while living out his fun years. My SIL has MS, is extremely immature, and wasn't the best mom to her own kids, so she was out. As much as I love my friends, they don't parent like MH and I do. All of my cousins are young (high school, just starting college, etc). We ended up choosing MH's two male cousins, and their wives, when I was pregnant (one is listed as a first choice, and the other as a back up). They both parent like us, we knew that they would make sure that our kids still spent time with both sides of our family, no financial issues, drug issues, drinking issues, etc. I nannied for a family for five years, and they had me listed as a guardian. His parents and siblings weren't a good fit, her parents and siblings weren't a good fit, and she knew I would do anything for the kids. I parent the same ways as her, she knew that I would make sure they got to spent lots of time with both sides of the family, she knows that my husband loves their kids, and that they would be just as important to me....as my own children. I haven't worked for them for almost 6 years, and I am still listed, and she knows that I will still take them in a heartbeat.  

    That being said, at any time, you can change it. You can have someone that you think is the best fit for now, and when you child is a little older, feel that there is someone else that is a better fit....just change your paperwork. When I was pregnant with DD, MH's cousins were the best fit. Now that she has been around for 4.5 years, we both feel that MH's friend and his wife is a better fit. They treat DD like their own, their teens love DD, they come to all of her birthdays, dance recitals, DD is comfortable with them and loves spending as much time as possible with them (they currently live an hour away). They also parent like us, would provide a stable home for DD, and would jump right in to coach her sports and everything else. When they found out we were expecting #2, they said "Well, we better move closer so all of our kids can grow up together!" (even though their youngest is already 12 years old), and he got a job up here last month, and they will be moving before the baby is born. They have become our village, no matter what we need or whatever is going on, they are there for us....and we are there for them. So we will be changing them to first pick of guardians, MH's cousin as second pick, his other cousin as third pick. 

    ETA: When it comes to MH's friend and his wife, MH has been friends with both of them since elementary school, and I have been friends with them for 10 years now. So it isn't like they are friends that we have had for a couple of years, MH has been friends with them for over 30 years.
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    edited March 2016
    @PhoebeJune1984 not really. I wish. My H has lots of cousins but they have their own kids and I can't imagine adding 3 more to the mix. I wouldn't want my boys split up. 
    There is an aunt of my Hs who did foster a pair of brothers at one point and she loves kids but we aren't close to her and she has a job and grandkids of her own. I just don't know. 3 kids seems like a lot for anyone. :/
  • m8881 said:
    @PhoebeJune1984 not really. I wish. My H has lots of cousins but they have their own kids and I can't imagine adding 3 more to the mix. I wouldn't want my boys split up. 
    There is an aunt of my Hs who did foster a pair of brothers at one point and she loves kids but we aren't close to her and she has a job and grandkids of her own. I just don't know. 3 kids seems like a lot for anyone. :/
    Our listed guardians have kids as well (our friends have three kids, MH's cousin has three kids, and his other cousin has one kid and one on the way - they are due a month after us). We knew that it would be interesting for all of them had to add two more to the mix, but they have all said "yes" when we asked them. Realistically, we won't end up needing guardians, and everything would be fine. But it is nice to know that IF (and that is a big "if") something were to happen to MH and I, someone that we picked would take over for us. His cousin with three kids even said that most likely, he will never have to raise our kids, but if he and his wife do....they know that they will make it work because we left them with our most prized possessions...and they know that we would do the same for them if need be. And although it may make finances a little harder, we have all of our documents showing that MIL/FIL will be in charge of all of our assets, and they will be giving the guardians a certain amount a year for the care of our children. That way, they aren't gaining two kids and a crazy amount of money all at the same time, and maybe spend the money carelessly. 
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  • No one in my family really does the godparent thing, so that hasn't been an issue. DH and I have discussed it in detail and asked my sister and her husband to be the legal guardians of our kids if ever necessary. We feel they would parent most like us and try to teach values that are important to us. The thing is my sister lives out of state and my in laws watch DD for us when we need help (maybe a couple hours twice a month). His mom has spotty health, but nothing life threatening, and she and her husband are borderline conspiracy theorists. We did not tell them the arrangement with our sister because we think it would just make her really mad. I'm sure MIL assumes it would be be them. In fact, DH has siblings still in high school and we have been asked to become their guardians if need be. Is it terrible that we haven't told them? We've tried honest (and gentle as possible) conversations about much less serious things before and it ends up ugly, so we try to just at nice now. Our thinking was that it's an unlikely event, and if it's taken care of on paper, she can get mad at us when we're dead...
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