2. I don't like it when people type "all the things" or "everything" in the WAYDTGKU section of the WTO threads.
I wouldn't be sad if that section just went away. For me at least I am not really doing anything out of the usual stuff most ladies here are doing.
I agree - I never really understood the section. What exactly is the point in knowing if someone's having sex ED or EOD, or if they're taking prenatal vitamins? I guess if they're going through IF treatments, then yeah, that's different and deserves to be mentioned, but... temping, having sex, and taking prenatals isn't exactly "out of the norm" enough that you should have to mention it every time you post. I don't know. I guess I just don't understand why it's asked?
I completely agree on the guidelines. I don't think people should run out after just a few months, but if you have had good timing, have been charting and using OPKs, and know you have ovulated, I don't really get waiting either. I was temping for a year as BC and then we started trying. I always got a "high" or a "good" rating on FF, and I always ovulated fairly regularly. My OBGYN brushed me off at 6 months, but at 9 months we went to the RE and it seems like MFI. We get our official diagnosis next week. I started to suspect something was wrong based on SCIENCE, and I didn't appreciate my OBGYN telling me to just relax and stop charting (wtf?). If I didn't know myself and take the initiative, I would just be waiting around for no reason.
I have heard the argument that it is a waste of resources, or that you could be taking any appointment away from someone else, but I find that sort of specious. I was able to get an appointment right away, and the resources and mine and my insurance company's. Going to the RE doesn't mean you will get unnecessary treatment, but at least you can get some tests out of the way. There's nothing stopping an RE from being like "Your tests are fine. Go home and try another 6 months" I found it reassuring that TTOYF says 4-6 months, because it made me feel less crazy.
I was diagnosed with IF in October and my first RE appointment is tomorrow (a 3 month wait). I have friends that have been diagnosed with IF and the wait is 12+ MONTHS to see an RE. Just because you were able to get in fast, doesn't mean that everyone can. There has to be a cut off somewhere, and since something like 94% of couples get pregnant in 12 months of trying, and that if you don't get pregnant in those 12 months you are unlikely to get pregnant on your own after that, having the cut-off allows those that actually have no chance of getting pregnant on their own to see a doctor while those that have no problems and just need another few months of trying to get pregnant on their own.
I have another one: Every time I hear the phrase "fell pregnant" I want to punch kittens. (I think it's more common on FF than here) Where in the heck did this phrase even come from? All of a sudden Eminem's Guilty Conscious pops into my head... "What? She tripped? Fell? Landed on his dick?" Falling is an accident, something unintentional. I don't think people should use it unless they're comfortable broadcasting they're having an oops baby, or that they don't understand what causes pregnancy.
1. I don't believe John Kasich is moderate at all. His attempts to defund planned parenthood and overturn Roe Vs. Wade are very far right (as far as I'm concerned). I do agree, however, that compared to the other republican candidates he does seem to be moderate. But now that I've typed this out I'm realizing that I have 0 desire to get into a political argument on here...
This. You can't have his positions on abortion and be a moderate. That's just not possible. Him being seen as a moderate is really more of a commentary on the other candidates, not really on him specifically.
My UO is that people who make tons of excuses for never working out just bother me. I have tons of friends who always tell me they are going to come to my yoga class, like they volunteer this I don't ask them, and then they just come up with all of these excuses why they can't do it. I don't mind people who just own it and don't work out, but don't make excuses. It's the girls who get the ohm or lotus tattoos, wear lululemon leggings but then when it comes to heaving their asses off the couch there's always some excuse.
@pensivecrayon I guess that would actually be better (for me anyways), but I can't pretend like I actually expect people to change what they write because of my post.
My UO is also a FFFC, but I can't wait for the next hour when I have to leave to go to my lab. I haven't talked to anyone outside my family (face to face) in like three days. I went to class on Monday and got pampered at the spa, and then Clinical was cancelled Tuesday because ice, and yesterday I stayed home from school so that I could take my husband and son to the walk-in for pink eye and a barky cough, respectively, and today I missed work to be home for the electrician/construction people to put in the new hot water heater and new electrical service.... I'm craving some college girl conversation. Please, tell me how Cindy asked you where your ex Johnny's dorm was and you two got in to a fight over it. I need to hear about it. Please.
Oh, and for politics - I don't care, as long as it's not Trump or Hillary. 'S all I'm saying.
Okay, @WinchesterGirl, there was never an apology. From what I understand another member "pointed out" that pocket had a separate account and her IP was banned. I'm not 100% but I think that's how that went down.
I'll come back for tags, but wanted to say thanks for the show of support everyone! I just got back from the ER (falling down head first on tile floor is not fun), so reading and remembering and tagging are not my friends. But I love you all and I will come back to this when I can be a real person.
TTGP February Siggy Challenge
creepy Easter bunny coming as soon as I can look at the screen more than 30 min at a time.
Me: 28
DH: 29
Married: October 2012
TTC #1 since September 2015
Clomid round 1 starting: 4FEB2016 = No ovulation Clomid round 2 starting: TBD... whenever AF decides to show up, or I have to take Provera again
(This is too good to not share. I tried researching the background of the phrase "fell pregnant" and came across a forum where someone named raindancemaggie said: I guess it's better than "I took a shot of man-mustard in my twat."
My UO is probably very unpopular. I can't stand the taste of coffee anything. Cappuccino, nope. Mocha anything, yucky! I do like hot tea though, so I guess that fills whatever void I have. I've never been reliant or addicted to caffeine, so that's a plus I guess.
The recommendations for when to see an RE are there as a general guideline. It won't be for everyone, but rather for the individual who sees a shift every month, has no other issues, and is under 35. If you are having extremely painful periods, even if not TTC, you should see your doctor. If you go 6 months and never see evidence of ovulation, go to the doctor. But if it's been 4 months and you just don't want to wait anymore but are seeing ovulation, have no reason to think there's something wrong, it's unreasonable to go to an RE. Impatience =/= infertility And just because you saw an RE before 12 months and your insurance covered it, doesn't mean it's the right advice or even a possible course of action for everyone.
So much this! I understand wanting to have a baby right.this.second. I do not understand wanting to undergo infertility testing. It is time consuming, painful and emotionally draining. DH had to go to his PCP to get the test order for a SA. An SA is not covered by insurance here and costs $100. The closest lab that will process SA is open 8-4 Monday to Friday and you have to collect the sample at home and bring it in within 30 minutes, which is how long it takes to drive from our home to the lab. DH had to switch shifts with a coworker to be able to make it to the lab during the hours it is open. He had to make a second appointment with his PCP to get the test results. With booking the 2 PCP appointments and the SA drop-off appointment, DH's testing took 1 month. All my testing is covered by insurance but IF treatments are not. I made an appointment with my PCP when it was clear my abnormal bleeding wasn't going away (missed work). I had several blood tests done to check hormone levels, a pelvic exam including pap smear and STI screen. A second appointment (missed work) to get those results and a referral to radiology for an ultrasound. I had to miss a few hours of work to go to my ultrasound appointment, plus another PCP appointment to discuss the results. PCP referred me to an OB. I went to my OB consultant (missed work) and had another pelvic exam with repeat STI screening. I had to go for another blood test 7dpo (missed work). I had to make an appointment with a centralized radiology clinic for an HSG, which involves putting a catheter through the cervix into the uterus and pushing dye in to check for abnormalities and open tubes. It was incredibly painful for me. I cried during the procedure it hurt so bad and had to take the rest of the day off work because I was in so much pain. I had to go back to my OB to get the test results (missed work). My OB referred me to an RE. The wait is 3 months for a consult. My RE wanted more blood tests on specific cycle days, which required more missed work to go to the lab each of those days. I started testing in late July, received a diagnosis late October and will go to the RE tomorrow.
@atcwag Your opinion is VERY popular with me! I also can't stand the taste of anything coffee related. I just recently started drinking hot tea and I love it.
Also--I love your avatar picture! Such a cute wedding photo!
About me: TTC#1: October 2015 dx: PCOS & MFI IUI #1 w/Femara + Ovidrel June 2016 ~ BFP July 2016: Blighted Ovum IUI #2 w/Femara + Ovidrel September 2016 ~BFN IUI #3 w/Femara + Ovidrel October 2016 ~BFN IUI #4 w/Femara + Ovidrel November 2016 ~BFN IVF with ICSI January 2017 ~BFN FET February 2017 ~BFN IVF with ICSI March 2017 ~BFP--Twins Due 12/8/17 Team Blue X 2!
@NovaSaysNo First, I am sorry you fell down the stairs! WTF! I hope you are okay! And second, I loved your email and hope you get a response from someone soon.
I don't like any of the candidates either (I feel like this is turning into a popular opinion today), and I'll likely be voting for Michael Bloomberg if he runs on the independent ticket. #Bloomberg2016 y'all.
I don't like the WAYDTGKTFU section either (and when did the TF get added?). HOWEVER, I think it's helpful for newbies/new regulars when they're first starting out to help them learn about what other people are doing.
I don't know how everyone else feels, and this might be a UO, but I would like to create a private group for TTGP regs. I miss a lot of the ladies who have already graduated, and it might be fun to have a place where we can all still "hang out", even after graduating. But I don't want to make a new group if no one is going to participate in it... Just an idea I wanted to throw out here! ETA: Private groups are not monitored by the BGs, so I thought this was a relevant comment to today's discussion.
Regarding RE @ 12 months only advice....I agree with a lot of PP. My OBGYN did order a standard bloodwork order for me at my regular Pap smear just to make sure thyroid and some other stuff were all good when I told her I was TTC. She was also willing to order additional bloodwork to rule out potential other issues that affect fertility when I wasn't ovulating for two long 45+ day cycles. She ruled out PCOS and I learned I have super low androgen, which wasn't something that I immediately had to run to an endocrinologist about cuz thankfully I started ovulating late in the next cycle. I truly didn't think I really needed to see an RE at 3 months of trying, but I think it shouldn't be like I would need to wait 12 months to find out if I have a potential thyroid issue or PCOS. I guess the short version of what I'm saying is that the OBGYN should be able to order basic bloodwork and recommend tests like SA earlier than 12 months if the individual's situation warrants it. If I would have had PCOS, I would have been furious if I waited 12 months to confirm that.
Me: 33 DH: 31 DS: 5 years old TTC #2 since August 2015 July 2016: Testing cycle with 100 mg Clomid = BFN August 2016: 50 mg Clomid + IUI = BFN October 2016: IVF#1 - 13 retrieved / 12 mature / 9 fertilized / 2 blasts November 2016: FET#1 = chemical January 2017: FET#2 = chemical March 2017: IVF#2 - 18 retrieved / 18 mature / 16 fertilized / 5 blasts
April 24, 2017: FET#3 - BFN May 24, 2017: FET#4 - BFP! - Beta #1 151 - Beta #2 503 - Due date 2/9/18
The recommendations for when to see an RE are there as a general guideline. It won't be for everyone, but rather for the individual who sees a shift every month, has no other issues, and is under 35. If you are having extremely painful periods, even if not TTC, you should see your doctor. If you go 6 months and never see evidence of ovulation, go to the doctor. But if it's been 4 months and you just don't want to wait anymore but are seeing ovulation, have no reason to think there's something wrong, it's unreasonable to go to an RE. Impatience =/= infertility And just because you saw an RE before 12 months and your insurance covered it, doesn't mean it's the right advice or even a possible course of action for everyone.
So much this! I understand wanting to have a baby right.this.second. I do not understand wanting to undergo infertility testing. It is time consuming, painful and emotionally draining.
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I agree with both of these so much! I agree that it's acceptable to start thinking about seeing an RE before the one year mark if you have a known issue or have reason to believe you have an issue, but don't borrow trouble. Just because it's been X amount of months and you're starting to worry doesn't mean you should jump the gun. I waited over a year while TTC #1 and almost year and a half with #2 (with several known issues) because infertility testing and treatment is costly, time consuming and just pretty much sucks all around. I wanted to make sure that there wasn't even the smallest chance that I could conceive on my own.
ETA: the likeliness of having to go through fertility treatments again played a BIG part in our decision for me to stay home/work from home (part time) between #1 and #2. I almost lost my job while going through fertility treatments for #1 because my boss (mother of 4 with the 4th being an oops) thought I was too dramatic (she legit accused me of making up dr appts - luckily the RE staff was quick to provide written Drs notes for all of my tardiness/absences) If I hadn't left on my own (we were moving) I have no doubt she would have found a way to fire me. She had already flat out lied on my performance evaluation to make me look unreliable.
The 'when to see an RE' debate pops up so frequently I wonder why people even bring it up anymore, unless they are suddenly hoping the community will unanimously pat them on the back and tell them that they're right and totes should go see an RE immediately.
The truth of the matter is that even when everything is perfectly aligned, you still only have a 20% chance of things working out in your favor. It makes sense, then, why traditional guidelines suggest that you not infer you have an IF problem unless you've been trying for a year or longer.
I have an IF dx: Unexplained infertility. There is nothing, as far as my RE can tell, wrong with either me or MH. It sucks. The testing sucks, the medicine sucks, the needing help sucks.
Please don't borrow trouble. IF is not a fun place to be. Wait your year. As PPs have said, impatience =/= infertility.
My UO of the day - I think it's childish and beyond unprofessional for people my age (mid 30's) to be posting on FB daily that they support legalization of marijuana. Do whatever you want to do, but you don't need to broadcast your illegal activities to the world. I'm not necessarily opposed to it, but don't see the need to declare it on a public, searchable forum.
@antoto STOP BEING MY BRAIN WHAT THE F. I 100% agree with you re: workout lairs and also re: Kasich. His record on reproductive rights is terrifying. I would also add as an educator that I think Kasich is dangerous. He has a long record siphoning public school funding into charter schools. He is only moderate as compared to the other dingbats who are hoping for the Republican nomination.
I'm going to take a page out of @aliciabhen's book and change up the tone a bit for my UO... because I don't really know enough to have an opinion on when to see an RE. But I will comment on the political stuff with this gif:
ETA: haha ignore the keeping up with the kardashians in the background.
My UO: I really hate having long text conversations with people. My friends all talk about how they text with people for hours. It makes me anxious, thinking about things like what if something comes up and I can't be by my phone and they think I'm ignoring them? How will this conversation end? Do I use emojis? It just feels like a lot of work.
@NovaSaysNo -I think your email was good. I am pretty baffled by the BGs. Sometimes I feel like this board is over-moderated. The way they swoop in and close posts and delete comments makes me uncomfortable....and I guess I don't see what their goal is. To avoid getting bad reviews in the App Store from butt-hurt newbies? I was also annoyed that the TOS were changed to include an arbitration agreement.....it's the lawyer in me that can't stand stuff like that. To opt out of the arbitration agreement, you have to physically send a letter instead of opting out on the website. That annoys me. I didn't send a letter, because I'm busy, and frankly I don't foresee ever needing to sue TB, but it's again, the big brother thing that annoys me.
Now that I said that, I'm concerned I'll get a warning or get banned. That's ridonkulous, since all I did was state my opinion. I will say, I've been on TK, TN, TB for about 10 years (I'm old, apparently), and there has always been varying degrees of this stuff.
My UO is I'm kind of concerned about the presidential election. Donald Trump is BSC and has no business running this country. Ted Cruz scares me in a Frank Underwood/Count Dracula sort of way. Rubio is also scary in a war-mongering, social conservative sort of way. Bernie Sanders sees like he would be an awesome president....of Sweden, not the U.S.. HRC has so much scandal surrounding her, and it's disconcerting. I think Kasich is awesome, and he can bring people together, but he isn't getting much traction.
So politics is my UO.
You are my political twin. Except my unpopular opinion is yay I like Jeb Bush even more than Kasich. Flame away ladies, I can take it.
While I'm on a roll I'll add another opinion that is sure to be unpopular. I hate hate hate when people bring their dogs in the grocery store, restaurant, movie theater, etc. I refuse to believe that 99% of the dogs I see are really emotional support animals. That Chihuahua sticking out of a gym bag in your grocery cart is probably not really an emotional support animal. The unfortunately very old and decrepit poodle mix throwing up and barking at the screen in the movie theater is not a service dog. My sister has a pretty severe phobia of dogs in general, even small ones, and a dog barking Or even really moving in a way even remotely suggestive of darting will get her extremely uncomfortable very fast.
While I'm on a roll I'll add another opinion that is sure to be unpopular. I hate hate hate when people bring their dogs in the grocery store, restaurant, movie theater, etc. I refuse to believe that 99% of the dogs I see are really emotional support animals. That Chihuahua sticking out of a gym bag in your grocery cart is probably not really an emotional support animal. The unfortunately very old and decrepit poodle mix throwing up and barking at the screen in the movie theater is not a service dog. My sister has a pretty severe phobia of dogs in general, even small ones, and a dog barking Or even really moving in a way even remotely suggestive of darting will get her extremely uncomfortable very fast.
Yes! I think it's so gross when people bring their dogs into the grocery store. Don't get me wrong I'm a total animal lover and I have my own pets, but I would never bring them into a store where other people are buying their food!
Me: 28 DH: 29 Married: August 2014 TTC #1 Since March 2015 Diagnosed with PCOS March 2016 SA results normal April 2016 3 rounds clomid + trigger + TI = BFN 3 rounds clomid + trigger + IUI = BFN Uterine polyp removed July 2017 Round 1 IVF January 2018
The 'when to see an RE' debate pops up so frequently I wonder why people even bring it up anymore, unless they are suddenly hoping the community will unanimously pat them on the back and tell them that they're right and totes should go see an RE immediately.
The truth of the matter is that even when everything is perfectly aligned, you still only have a 20% chance of things working out in your favor. It makes sense, then, why traditional guidelines suggest that you not infer you have an IF problem unless you've been trying for a year or longer.
I have an IF dx: Unexplained infertility. There is nothing, as far as my RE can tell, wrong with either me or MH. It sucks. The testing sucks, the medicine sucks, the needing help sucks.
Please don't borrow trouble. IF is not a fun place to be. Wait your year. As PPs have said, impatience =/= infertility.
I actually hadn't seen this debated in recent memory and I've been a daily reader since last June. Maybe I missed the frequent debate on this topic, but it did seem to resonate with some ladies today - we must have all missed those frequent, previous debates.
You're right. IF is not a fun place to be. It sucked to go to an infertility clinic. It sucked to get the PCOS diagnosis. It sucked to register with the infertility program with my insurance. You feel sad and confused because your body is betraying you and a plethora of other feelings that suck. But, it would've sucked a lot more 6 months from now once I learned there was very little I could've been doing on my own. I needed medical intervention and I'm glad I got it.
I am not advocating for impatient ppl running to the doc, but more of when you have a true indication that something is wrong, feeling comfortable and empowered to take action.
Me: 31; DH: 31 NTNP: May 2015 TTC #1: late August 2015 PCOS Dx: January 2016, starting Femara Feb 2016 BFP: 2/29/16 - Happy Leap Day!
I have another one: Every time I hear the phrase "fell pregnant" I want to punch kittens. (I think it's more common on FF than here) Where in the heck did this phrase even come from? All of a sudden Eminem's Guilty Conscious pops into my head... "What? She tripped? Fell? Landed on his dick?" Falling is an accident, something unintentional. I don't think people should use it unless they're comfortable broadcasting they're having an oops baby, or that they don't understand what causes pregnancy.
Isn't it just the way that other English speaking countries like Britain turn the phrase?
@antoto STOP BEING MY BRAIN WHAT THE F. I 100% agree with you re: workout lairs and also re: Kasich. His record on reproductive rights is terrifying. I would also add as an educator that I think Kasich is dangerous. He has a long record siphoning public school funding into charter schools. He is only moderate as compared to the other dingbats who are hoping for the Republican nomination.
As an educator this is one if the things I like about Kasich. Not all educators feel the same way about what is best fur education, yo!
The 'when to see an RE' debate pops up so frequently I wonder why people even bring it up anymore, unless they are suddenly hoping the community will unanimously pat them on the back and tell them that they're right and totes should go see an RE immediately.
The truth of the matter is that even when everything is perfectly aligned, you still only have a 20% chance of things working out in your favor. It makes sense, then, why traditional guidelines suggest that you not infer you have an IF problem unless you've been trying for a year or longer.
I have an IF dx: Unexplained infertility. There is nothing, as far as my RE can tell, wrong with either me or MH. It sucks. The testing sucks, the medicine sucks, the needing help sucks.
Please don't borrow trouble. IF is not a fun place to be. Wait your year. As PPs have said, impatience =/= infertility.
I actually hadn't seen this debated in recent memory and I've been a daily reader since last June. Maybe I missed the frequent debate on this topic, but it did seem to resonate with some ladies today - we must have all missed those frequent, previous debates.
You're right. IF is not a fun place to be. It sucked to go to an infertility clinic. It sucked to get the PCOS diagnosis. It sucked to register with the infertility program with my insurance. You feel sad and confused because your body is betraying you and a plethora of other feelings that suck. But, it would've sucked a lot more 6 months from now once I learned there was very little I could've been doing on my own. I needed medical intervention and I'm glad I got it.
I am not advocating for impatient ppl running to the doc, but more of when you have a true indication that something is wrong, feeling comfortable and empowered to take action.
It comes up all the time. Not every day but frequently enough.
And my IF DX has no indication. And I waited a full year before seeking treatment. There are very few IF DX's that have "indications". So I don't believe jumping the gun is empowering.
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The 'when to see an RE' debate pops up so frequently I wonder why people even bring it up anymore, unless they are suddenly hoping the community will unanimously pat them on the back and tell them that they're right and totes should go see an RE immediately.
The truth of the matter is that even when everything is perfectly aligned, you still only have a 20% chance of things working out in your favor. It makes sense, then, why traditional guidelines suggest that you not infer you have an IF problem unless you've been trying for a year or longer.
I have an IF dx: Unexplained infertility. There is nothing, as far as my RE can tell, wrong with either me or MH. It sucks. The testing sucks, the medicine sucks, the needing help sucks.
Please don't borrow trouble. IF is not a fun place to be. Wait your year. As PPs have said, impatience =/= infertility.
YAS! To the bolded, we go over this about once a month......
My UO is probably very unpopular. I can't stand the taste of coffee anything. Cappuccino, nope. Mocha anything, yucky! I do like hot tea though, so I guess that fills whatever void I have. I've never been reliant or addicted to caffeine, so that's a plus I guess.
I could have written this UO word for word. I don't understand coffee, it is disgusting. I love that I am not at all reliant on caffeine, as well.
My UO I hate beer. Everyone else I know that used to hate beer now likes it. I felt abandoned. Everyone is like, "you're not trying the right kinds", "surely you'll like this, try it!" No. They are all gross. It doesn't matter what it is, I can still taste the grossness that is beer flavor underneath.
I know it sucks to start TTC and not get KU right away. It's awful and really depressing as each month goes by. But it takes TIME, and it's not slam bam thank you ma'am for every one. Yes, your cousin's best friend's step sisters aunt got KU the first time they tried with all 10 of their children but that's not YOUR story. Everyone's journey is different, and there may be a reason that you have not gotten KU yet.
That's a hard pill to swallow. It truly is. And for some of us, it may never happen again or even for the first time. I'm sure some are ruffled at that concept and all "how dare she". But it is the truth. There are childless families all over the world and they never assumed they would be.
So while you are chomping at the bit to run to a fertility specialist, you really need to think about what EXACTLY that means. Some families walk out of their REs office being told it will never happen, even with medical intervention. But you say, going now and finding out is better than clinging to hope for 12 months. Since when is having hope a bad thing? And say you do go and find out nothing is wrong? You've spent lots of money on invasive and painful tests, subjected your DH to numerous SA's that are humiliating and then what if you start trying again and still no pregnancy? You will only be harder on yourself, and depression is much more likely.
Getting pregnant isn't a race.
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I know it sucks to start TTC and not get KU right away. It's awful and really depressing as each month goes by. But it takes TIME, and it's not slam bam thank you ma'am for every one. Yes, your cousin's best friend's step sisters aunt got KU the first time they tried with all 10 of their children but that's not YOUR story. Everyone's journey is different, and there may be a reason that you have not gotten KU yet.
That's a hard pill to swallow. It truly is. And for some of us, it may never happen again or even for the first time. I'm sure some are ruffled at that concept and all "how dare she". But it is the truth. There are childless families all over the world and they never assumed they would be.
So while you are chomping at the bit to run to a fertility specialist, you really need to think about what EXACTLY that means. Some families walk out of their REs office being told it will never happen, even with medical intervention. But you say, going now and finding out is better than clinging to hope for 12 months. Since when is having hope a bad thing? And say you do go and find out nothing is wrong? You've spent lots of money on invasive and painful tests, subjected your DH to numerous SA's that are humiliating and then what if you start trying again and still no pregnancy? You will only be harder on yourself, and depression is much more likely.
Re: UO Thursday!
TTC #1 January 2016
BFP April 18 2016 | EDD December 29, 2016
Welcome baby A! January 9, 2017
TTC#2 March 2018
BFP March 30, 2018 | EDD December 12, 2018
I guess if they're going through IF treatments, then yeah, that's different and deserves to be mentioned, but... temping, having sex, and taking prenatals isn't exactly "out of the norm" enough that you should have to mention it every time you post.
I don't know. I guess I just don't understand why it's asked?
Me: 30 | DH: 34 | DSS: 14 | DS: 4
PG #2, EDD 10/12/2023
(I think it's more common on FF than here)
Where in the heck did this phrase even come from? All of a sudden Eminem's Guilty Conscious pops into my head... "What? She tripped? Fell? Landed on his dick?" Falling is an accident, something unintentional. I don't think people should use it unless they're comfortable broadcasting they're having an oops baby, or that they don't understand what causes pregnancy.
My UO is that people who make tons of excuses for never working out just bother me. I have tons of friends who always tell me they are going to come to my yoga class, like they volunteer this I don't ask them, and then they just come up with all of these excuses why they can't do it. I don't mind people who just own it and don't work out, but don't make excuses. It's the girls who get the ohm or lotus tattoos, wear lululemon leggings but then when it comes to heaving their asses off the couch there's always some excuse.
Me: 32 | DH: 36
Married June 2005
1/2016 - TTC#1
4/2017 - Initial RE visit, Dx: Severe MFI (Varicocele, 14% motility, 3% progression, but normal count)
7/2017 - Stage 3 endometriosis discovered during laparoscopic removal of ovarian cyst
9/27/2017 - BFP at 10dpo (cycle 22), baby boy due June 9, 2018
Me: Endo, PCOS, septated uterus (mostly removed)
DH: perfect
Started TTC in June 2011
Baby boy born 3/17/2014
TTC since January 2016
BFP - 3/12/16 - MC 4/5/16
BFP - 6/11/16
Oh, and for politics - I don't care, as long as it's not Trump or Hillary. 'S all I'm saying.
Me: 30 | DH: 34 | DSS: 14 | DS: 4
PG #2, EDD 10/12/2023
I'll come back for tags, but wanted to say thanks for the show of support everyone! I just got back from the ER (falling down head first on tile floor is not fun), so reading and remembering and tagging are not my friends. But I love you all and I will come back to this when I can be a real person.
TTGP February Siggy Challenge
Me: 28
DH: 29
Married: October 2012
TTC #1 since September 2015
Clomid round 1 starting: 4FEB2016 = No ovulationClomid round 2 starting: TBD... whenever AF decides to show up, or I have to take Provera again
3 Furbabies
Whoever raindancemaggie is, I want to be BFFs.)
TTC #1 January 2016
BFP April 18 2016 | EDD December 29, 2016
Welcome baby A! January 9, 2017
TTC#2 March 2018
BFP March 30, 2018 | EDD December 12, 2018
Me: 39 DH: 40
Married: 12/6/2014
BFP#2: 10/28/15 MC: 11/24/15
BFP#3: 3/20/16 MC: 4/26/16
BFP#4: 7/15/16 DD: 3/18/17
BFP#5: 5/1/18 EDD: 1/12/19
I do like hot tea though, so I guess that fills whatever void I have.
I've never been reliant or addicted to caffeine, so that's a plus I guess.
DH had to go to his PCP to get the test order for a SA. An SA is not covered by insurance here and costs $100. The closest lab that will process SA is open 8-4 Monday to Friday and you have to collect the sample at home and bring it in within 30 minutes, which is how long it takes to drive from our home to the lab. DH had to switch shifts with a coworker to be able to make it to the lab during the hours it is open. He had to make a second appointment with his PCP to get the test results. With booking the 2 PCP appointments and the SA drop-off appointment, DH's testing took 1 month.
All my testing is covered by insurance but IF treatments are not. I made an appointment with my PCP when it was clear my abnormal bleeding wasn't going away (missed work). I had several blood tests done to check hormone levels, a pelvic exam including pap smear and STI screen. A second appointment (missed work) to get those results and a referral to radiology for an ultrasound. I had to miss a few hours of work to go to my ultrasound appointment, plus another PCP appointment to discuss the results. PCP referred me to an OB. I went to my OB consultant (missed work) and had another pelvic exam with repeat STI screening. I had to go for another blood test 7dpo (missed work). I had to make an appointment with a centralized radiology clinic for an HSG, which involves putting a catheter through the cervix into the uterus and pushing dye in to check for abnormalities and open tubes. It was incredibly painful for me. I cried during the procedure it hurt so bad and had to take the rest of the day off work because I was in so much pain. I had to go back to my OB to get the test results (missed work). My OB referred me to an RE. The wait is 3 months for a consult. My RE wanted more blood tests on specific cycle days, which required more missed work to go to the lab each of those days. I started testing in late July, received a diagnosis late October and will go to the RE tomorrow.
Also--I love your avatar picture! Such a cute wedding photo!
TTC#1: October 2015
dx: PCOS & MFI
IUI #1 w/Femara + Ovidrel June 2016 ~ BFP
July 2016: Blighted Ovum
IUI #2 w/Femara + Ovidrel September 2016 ~BFN
IUI #3 w/Femara + Ovidrel October 2016 ~BFN
IUI #4 w/Femara + Ovidrel November 2016 ~BFN
IVF with ICSI January 2017 ~BFN
FET February 2017 ~BFN
IVF with ICSI March 2017 ~BFP--Twins Due 12/8/17
Team Blue X 2!
I don't like any of the candidates either (I feel like this is turning into a popular opinion today), and I'll likely be voting for Michael Bloomberg if he runs on the independent ticket. #Bloomberg2016 y'all.
I don't like the WAYDTGKTFU section either (and when did the TF get added?). HOWEVER, I think it's helpful for newbies/new regulars when they're first starting out to help them learn about what other people are doing.
I don't know how everyone else feels, and this might be a UO, but I would like to create a private group for TTGP regs. I miss a lot of the ladies who have already graduated, and it might be fun to have a place where we can all still "hang out", even after graduating. But I don't want to make a new group if no one is going to participate in it... Just an idea I wanted to throw out here!
ETA: Private groups are not monitored by the BGs, so I thought this was a relevant comment to today's discussion.
DS: 5 years old
TTC #2 since August 2015
July 2016: Testing cycle with 100 mg Clomid = BFN
August 2016: 50 mg Clomid + IUI = BFN
October 2016: IVF#1 - 13 retrieved / 12 mature / 9 fertilized / 2 blasts
November 2016: FET#1 = chemical
January 2017: FET#2 = chemical
March 2017: IVF#2 - 18 retrieved / 18 mature / 16 fertilized / 5 blasts
May 24, 2017: FET#4 - BFP! - Beta #1 151 - Beta #2 503 - Due date 2/9/18
ETA: the likeliness of having to go through fertility treatments again played a BIG part in our decision for me to stay home/work from home (part time) between #1 and #2. I almost lost my job while going through fertility treatments for #1 because my boss (mother of 4 with the 4th being an oops) thought I was too dramatic (she legit accused me of making up dr appts - luckily the RE staff was quick to provide written Drs notes for all of my tardiness/absences) If I hadn't left on my own (we were moving) I have no doubt she would have found a way to fire me. She had already flat out lied on my performance evaluation to make me look unreliable.
Me: Endo, PCOS, septated uterus (mostly removed)
DH: perfect
Started TTC in June 2011
Baby boy born 3/17/2014
My UO is that Oreos are literally the WORST cookies in the world.
That is all!
Married: November 2015
TTC#1: January 2016
BFP: 5/02/16 - MC: 5/27/16
The 'when to see an RE' debate pops up so frequently I wonder why people even bring it up anymore, unless they are suddenly hoping the community will unanimously pat them on the back and tell them that they're right and totes should go see an RE immediately.
The truth of the matter is that even when everything is perfectly aligned, you still only have a 20% chance of things working out in your favor. It makes sense, then, why traditional guidelines suggest that you not infer you have an IF problem unless you've been trying for a year or longer.
I have an IF dx: Unexplained infertility. There is nothing, as far as my RE can tell, wrong with either me or MH. It sucks. The testing sucks, the medicine sucks, the needing help sucks.
Please don't borrow trouble. IF is not a fun place to be. Wait your year. As PPs have said, impatience =/= infertility.
TTC #1 - Nov '14
DS born 10/18
LFAF February Siggy Challenge - "Favorite TV/Movie Couple"
DD: 10/17/13
TTC#2 Actively: 10/14, NTNP: 01/14
Left-Sided Hydrosalpinx (cause: genetic abnormality, TREATED 11/16)
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/396b04
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Started TTC #1 November 2015
BFP 6/10/2016 - EDD 2/22/2017
But I will comment on the political stuff with this gif:
ETA: haha ignore the keeping up with the kardashians in the background.
My UO: I really hate having long text conversations with people. My friends all talk about how they text with people for hours. It makes me anxious, thinking about things like what if something comes up and I can't be by my phone and they think I'm ignoring them? How will this conversation end? Do I use emojis?
It just feels like a lot of work.
While I'm on a roll I'll add another opinion that is sure to be unpopular. I hate hate hate when people bring their dogs in the grocery store, restaurant, movie theater, etc. I refuse to believe that 99% of the dogs I see are really emotional support animals. That Chihuahua sticking out of a gym bag in your grocery cart is probably not really an emotional support animal. The unfortunately very old and decrepit poodle mix throwing up and barking at the screen in the movie theater is not a service dog. My sister has a pretty severe phobia of dogs in general, even small ones, and a dog barking Or even really moving in a way even remotely suggestive of darting will get her extremely uncomfortable very fast.
Me: 28 DH: 29
Married: August 2014
TTC #1 Since March 2015
Diagnosed with PCOS March 2016
SA results normal April 2016
3 rounds clomid + trigger + TI = BFN
3 rounds clomid + trigger + IUI = BFN
Uterine polyp removed July 2017
Round 1 IVF January 2018
You're right. IF is not a fun place to be. It sucked to go to an infertility clinic. It sucked to get the PCOS diagnosis. It sucked to register with the infertility program with my insurance. You feel sad and confused because your body is betraying you and a plethora of other feelings that suck. But, it would've sucked a lot more 6 months from now once I learned there was very little I could've been doing on my own. I needed medical intervention and I'm glad I got it.
I am not advocating for impatient ppl running to the doc, but more of when you have a true indication that something is wrong, feeling comfortable and empowered to take action.
NTNP: May 2015
TTC #1: late August 2015
PCOS Dx: January 2016, starting Femara Feb 2016
BFP: 2/29/16 - Happy Leap Day!
And my IF DX has no indication. And I waited a full year before seeking treatment. There are very few IF DX's that have "indications". So I don't believe jumping the gun is empowering.
LFAF February Siggy Challenge - "Favorite TV/Movie Couple"
DD: 10/17/13
TTC#2 Actively: 10/14, NTNP: 01/14
Left-Sided Hydrosalpinx (cause: genetic abnormality, TREATED 11/16)
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/396b04
It's near as common as the Pumpkin spice latte.
My UO I hate beer. Everyone else I know that used to hate beer now likes it. I felt abandoned. Everyone is like, "you're not trying the right kinds", "surely you'll like this, try it!" No. They are all gross. It doesn't matter what it is, I can still taste the grossness that is beer flavor underneath.
That's a hard pill to swallow. It truly is. And for some of us, it may never happen again or even for the first time. I'm sure some are ruffled at that concept and all "how dare she". But it is the truth. There are childless families all over the world and they never assumed they would be.
So while you are chomping at the bit to run to a fertility specialist, you really need to think about what EXACTLY that means. Some families walk out of their REs office being told it will never happen, even with medical intervention. But you say, going now and finding out is better than clinging to hope for 12 months. Since when is having hope a bad thing? And say you do go and find out nothing is wrong? You've spent lots of money on invasive and painful tests, subjected your DH to numerous SA's that are humiliating and then what if you start trying again and still no pregnancy? You will only be harder on yourself, and depression is much more likely.
Getting pregnant isn't a race.
LFAF February Siggy Challenge - "Favorite TV/Movie Couple"
DD: 10/17/13
TTC#2 Actively: 10/14, NTNP: 01/14
Left-Sided Hydrosalpinx (cause: genetic abnormality, TREATED 11/16)
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/396b04
TTC #1 - Nov '14
DS born 10/18
PS I hated her
LFAF February Siggy Challenge - "Favorite TV/Movie Couple"
DD: 10/17/13
TTC#2 Actively: 10/14, NTNP: 01/14
Left-Sided Hydrosalpinx (cause: genetic abnormality, TREATED 11/16)
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/396b04
Married May 2012
TTC#1 July 2013 - July 2015 (no success)
Again TTC#1: Dec 2015
First RE visit: Feb 2016
BFP: 9/16/16 EDD:5/26/17
LFAF February Siggy Challenge - "Favorite TV/Movie Couple"
DD: 10/17/13
TTC#2 Actively: 10/14, NTNP: 01/14
Left-Sided Hydrosalpinx (cause: genetic abnormality, TREATED 11/16)
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/396b04