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No tough love? L&D Question!

edited February 2016 in June 2016 Moms
I am lightly starting to work out some ''birth plan'' type details I am having a hospital birth with a midwife and am generally pretty "crunchy".

I would like to put in some kind of a request for no "tough love" tactics to be used on me. No one screaming a me or screaming in general, at any point in my labor. I have a legitimate reason for this (its a trigger) but is that really something I can ask for would you think?  [ EDIT: 
The stern type talking to/motivating, IS what i'm talking about. Not 'screaming' so much as just being motivating to degree that I think would not work for me. ]

What happens if i am given a nurse who uses that type of behavior? I have no idea what kind of say the birthing mother ultimately does or doesnt have over the hospital staff. I wanted to save asking my midwife questions until i had them all sort of laid out, and im not there yet which is why im asking here. TIA!

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  • I'm thinking you won't need to worry about the nurses screaming.  Maybe you?! Lol. I'm a ftm so I'm gonna do my best to "handle" the pain and not put energy into screaming. (I say naively now...lol)If you feel very strongly about it, make sure your SO knows your wish so it can be conveyed to the staff.  I'm sure you won't need to worry about this though:)
  • I don't think that happens too often.  But maybe ask if you can request different nurses if it does happen. 
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  • My nurses were always calm and collected. I don't think you necessarily need to put that in your birth plan, but if it makes you feel better, maybe make sure your midwife is aware of this trigger and possibly your SO if you think necessary. That way they can speak up on your behalf in the unlikely event that things seem to be escalating toward that kind of behavior. But honestly, screaming nurses seem like something more out of movies and tv. I would be surprised to hear that it happens regularly. 
  • If a nurse ever screamed at me in labor I would tell her to leave. It's inappropriate and none of my nurses ever raised their love at me. Even during pushing they were just calmly encouraging. I think you've seen one to many movies...
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  • ahernandez16ahernandez16 member
    edited February 2016
    Sorry. I'm just picturing nurses at the end of my bed screaming at me and it's making me giggle hysterically. 

    I'm a FTM so I don't "know" but I think most (if any) of the screaming will be done by you. You probably don't have anything to worry about in that regard. I'm sure you can expect them to be stern if you try to say you can't do it, by saying, "yes you CAN and you WILL now let's go." You might need that! Who knows. I'm a very tough love giving kind of person, totally blunt and to the point if needed but I don't think I'd ever scream at a laboring woman. 

    If stern talk is also a trigger for you, though that might be worth bringing up. 

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  • I've never had to worry about that and I don't think it's common. You could bring up that you need a calm environment or you panic just in case but all in all I don't think they usually yell at you in labor. I think I would smack someone screaming at me while trying to push a baby out. That shit doesn't fly 
  • The closest to being sternly talked to is when I was pushing, I laid back down and said I can't do this and the midwife told me "you can do this, you have to do this, you are doing this". But that was reassuring more than anything. I sat out for one contraction, then hopped back to it 
  •  If someone yelled at me in labor I would also be reporting them to their boss and hospital (or wherever you're delivering). Have you had friends that were yelled at during labor? Where did you hear of this?
  • I'm realizing i think i used the wrong word here. Sorry!! The stern talking to/motivating, IS what i'm talking about. Not 'screaming' so much as just being motivating to degree that I think would not work for me. Trying to tough-lovingly force me into something, etc. It just simply wont work for me, and would involve a lot more details to explain why but i think it would shut me down and maybe me feel uncomfortable with the person.

    I never realized how sensitive to it i was until i literally had 2 people over the course of a week both (literally, not what im saying above) scream at me about things that had nothing to do with me which ended up taking me an insanely long time to recover from.
  • I don't know that you can dictate how people talk to you as long as they're not being inappropriate or unprofessional. But I guess it can't hurt to put it in your birth plan?
  • RMLandy Right, Which i think is my concern/issue. Its normally something i handle in daily life, but its not something i want to put up with when im in labor. Which is why i wasnt sure if it was an unreasonable/impossible request or not. 

    Also i realize not everyone has the same reaction to such a thing, but for me it will very much shut me down and make me feel uncomfortable in my own delivery room. Which is why its a concern to me. If someone was continuing to do it, i think it would make labor much more difficult than it needs to be for me. But i understand again that this isnt necessarily a normal reaction, therefore can understand why it may not be honored.
  • You can dictate to people how you want them to talk to you. When I laboured at the hospital with my first I asked for no talking during contractions. All the nurses respected my request.  However once I started pushing they all coached me and talked me through it. I would think the only time there would be stern talking would be if you weren't able to get the pushing part down? And then they would only be doing what's best for you or baby. 
  • @marriedtoadutchman I guess that's honestly what im kind of worried about. If i cant figure something out, am doing it wrong, and need to be corrected/adjusted, that's probably the WORST time to speak to me like that. Again i realize i have a different response than the norm to this, which is why its a concern to me. Because i cant imagine being a few pushes from delivery and having someone be rude in a way that shuts me down. Again this is all totally a worry that might not even remotely be an issue that comes up. So for me to and actually know what the person would or wouldn't say and how it would or would not effect me, is probably a decently unreasonable thing to try control at all.

    I asked this also in a crunchy moms group and the general consensus was that I really need to get a doula to handle these things for me. Which i cant really afford but i am seeing how that might be the route to go if i can some how muster up the funds.
  • @TheHauntedHauswife can your husband/labor partner be your voice for this? I think putting it in your birth plan that you don't respond well to stern language and then really communicating with your husband that it's his job to address this if it happens might be your best bet.

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  • @parsonsperson My only concern with this is that my husband has a horrifically bad read on what I would regard as stern language. He just doesnt hear it even if everyone else in the room does. He is my only birth partner, but i am trying to find some affordable doula possibilities now in lieu of this realization. 
  • Doula students will attend labors for free as a way to earn enough birth hours for certification. Maybe that is a possibility?
  • @parsonsperson My only concern with this is that my husband has a horrifically bad read on what I would regard as stern language. He just doesnt hear it even if everyone else in the room does. He is my only birth partner, but i am trying to find some affordable doula possibilities now in lieu of this realization. 
    Best of luck! Just another thought, though...as a backup...maybe you can have a code word with your husband for when you need him to step in. I totally get that you're worried you might not be in a position to advocate for yourself. A doula is definitely going to be the best option to ensure your needs are met in this respect. Fingers crossed you find a good, affordable one that you feel comfortable with! 

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  • @Tawny87 Im definitely looking for one!

    @parsonsperson Thank you!! I found one possible lead im looking into.
  • If it's more the stern talking you're worried about, I would put it at the top of your birth plan. Include examples, give your husband a code word for when you need help, and don't be afraid to ask them to leave if not. I don't think it's a ridiculous request, and they should be able to accommodate you. That's a good question to ask on a hospital tour, and if it bothers you now, call ahead and start asking now.
  • The midwife that was filling in for my Ob when my Ob had to go to an emergency c section during my labor yelled the following while I was pushing, "Ohhh he's a bad boy! Keep pushing! We are going to push that bad boy out and we will spank him for being so bad!!" I yelled at her to shut up. She obliged. I just had to share that after your question. Fortunately she was only in there for the one hour I pushed. 

    I told the nurses up front exactly what I wanted and they listened. Like others have said, typically they will follow your requests as long as it's safe. Definitely try and prep your husband in case he ends up needing to be the one to chime in.
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  • I had this conversation with my midwife because I am worried about how I will react in a hospital situation. [Trigger for panic, but I do exposure therapy which helps!] 

    You can absolutely request a "gentle birth" experience without that tough love. You can have this put on your medical record too: that way everyone who reads your chart will have to see it before interacting with you.  If you don't want a doula: Coach hubby on what to say to you and how you'd like to hear it for when things progress. My midwife was really supportive of this and is totally ok with putting on the encouraging/"great job!" voice. 
  • The midwife that was filling in for my Ob when my Ob had to go to an emergency c section during my labor yelled the following while I was pushing, "Ohhh he's a bad boy! Keep pushing! We are going to push that bad boy out and we will spank him for being so bad!!" I yelled at her to shut up. She obliged. I just had to share that after your question. Fortunately she was only in there for the one hour I pushed. 

    I told the nurses up front exactly what I wanted and they listened. Like others have said, typically they will follow your requests as long as it's safe. Definitely try and prep your husband in case he ends up needing to be the one to chime in.
    I seriously lol'd at that! Probably wouldn't in the moment but that is funny. 

    OP I suggest just telling the nurses up front what you expect. You can put it in your birth plan but there is no guarantee they will see it. In my experience the l&do nurses were some of the kindest people I've met though so hopefully it works out the same for you. 


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  • The midwife that was filling in for my Ob when my Ob had to go to an emergency c section during my labor yelled the following while I was pushing, "Ohhh he's a bad boy! Keep pushing! We are going to push that bad boy out and we will spank him for being so bad!!" I yelled at her to shut up. She obliged. I just had to share that after your question. Fortunately she was only in there for the one hour I pushed. 

    I told the nurses up front exactly what I wanted and they listened. Like others have said, typically they will follow your requests as long as it's safe. Definitely try and prep your husband in case he ends up needing to be the one to chime in.
    Omg!!!! Lol. I would have totally told her to shut up to! 
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  • The midwife that was filling in for my Ob when my Ob had to go to an emergency c section during my labor yelled the following while I was pushing, "Ohhh he's a bad boy! Keep pushing! We are going to push that bad boy out and we will spank him for being so bad!!" I yelled at her to shut up. She obliged. I just had to share that after your question. Fortunately she was only in there for the one hour I pushed. 

    I told the nurses up front exactly what I wanted and they listened. Like others have said, typically they will follow your requests as long as it's safe. Definitely try and prep your husband in case he ends up needing to be the one to chime in.
    I can't stop laughing, what in the actual fuck was she doing 
  • The midwife that was filling in for my Ob when my Ob had to go to an emergency c section during my labor yelled the following while I was pushing, "Ohhh he's a bad boy! Keep pushing! We are going to push that bad boy out and we will spank him for being so bad!!" I yelled at her to shut up. She obliged. I just had to share that after your question. Fortunately she was only in there for the one hour I pushed. 

    I told the nurses up front exactly what I wanted and they listened. Like others have said, typically they will follow your requests as long as it's safe. Definitely try and prep your husband in case he ends up needing to be the one to chime in.
    How freaking bizarre! I'm glad you told her to shut up. I'm seriously cracking up. 
  • The midwife that was filling in for my Ob when my Ob had to go to an emergency c section during my labor yelled the following while I was pushing, "Ohhh he's a bad boy! Keep pushing! We are going to push that bad boy out and we will spank him for being so bad!!" I yelled at her to shut up. She obliged. I just had to share that after your question. Fortunately she was only in there for the one hour I pushed. 

    I told the nurses up front exactly what I wanted and they listened. Like others have said, typically they will follow your requests as long as it's safe. Definitely try and prep your husband in case he ends up needing to be the one to chime in.
    Thank you for sharing this. I cannot stop laughing at that nurse! So annoying for you but what a weirdo! Lol. 
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  • That midwife is a freaking whack job! It was labor and DELIVERY, not some weird porno!
  • dennyandleedennyandlee member
    edited February 2016
    The midwife that was filling in for my Ob when my Ob had to go to an emergency c section during my labor yelled the following while I was pushing, "Ohhh he's a bad boy! Keep pushing! We are going to push that bad boy out and we will spank him for being so bad!!" I yelled at her to shut up. She obliged. I just had to share that after your question. Fortunately she was only in there for the one hour I pushed. 

    I told the nurses up front exactly what I wanted and they listened. Like others have said, typically they will follow your requests as long as it's safe. Definitely try and prep your husband in case he ends up needing to be the one to chime in.
    Umm, whaaaaaaat the fuck? Who does she think would be motivated by that?!?! What a strange way to try to motivate you! I wonder what other responses from laboring women she's received!

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  • Nurses aren't birthing coaches, so they don't really say much in ways of motivation. At least not in my knowledge. My nurses even birthed my baby because the doctor wasn't fast enough, but all they did was tell me how and when to breathe and push and that the speed of delivery was unheard of for a FTM. ;) 

    I guess that does sound like a birth coach....
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  • I spoke with my doula about something similar to this. She suggested putting words and phrases you don't want to hear on the birth plan. Things like "it's okay, you're fine" so that of in the moment that bothers you (obviously it not fine, you're in pain) they can avoid it and use something more helpful, like it's almost over or each contraction gets you closer to baby. Especially if it's a trigger, I'd throw a sentence on your birth plan about it.
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  • @denny+lee I realize its a pretty slim chance its going to happen. My main question was just if it was completely unreasonable to request it. I mean its in its own way kind of embaressing to need to be like ''hey i was emotionally abused so i have emotional triggers that may not make sense to you, so i need you to not do this" like i really hate even having to go there at all. So i was kind of hoping i could write it in the birth plan and not make a huge deal of it, but i think it is worth bringing up to the midwife for sure, and then like you said, not focus on it anymore.

    @Meggyme I will have to think what phrases could potentially come up that would be specific, but i totally get what your saying that maybe using an example might be the best way to approach it!
  • It totally sucks that you need to approach this, but absolutely put something in there. In my two experiences, they weren't mean at all, just firm when they needed to be. 
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