June 2016 Moms

*Trigger* *Long post* Any other recovering addict moms?

Let me start off by saying I know this may not be the best place to discuss such a controversial subject, but I'm hoping that we can discuss this topic as grownups without bashing & backlash. I am a recovering addict, I've been clean since I found out about my new pregnancy (October 7th, 2015). I started using when I was 15/16, it started out as smoking marijuana, then progressed to snorting any pill I could get my hands on, then ended with a heroin addiction with a mix of everything previously stated. After a heroin overdose I got clean because quiet frankly it scared the crap out of me. I was clean for about three years, and within those three years I suffered a missed miscarriage & relished in the birth of my now 23 m/o DD. I'm not proud to admit that I started using again after my DD was 8 months old, it started off as a single occurance of smoking a joint, but that soon escalated to smoking all the time, & after the high wasn't enough for me I discovered my worst enemy, synthetic marijuana aka spice. I had another miscarriage February 11th, 2015 while high on spice, i didn't even know I was pregnant until I started having severe stomach cramps and bleeding, went to the ER where it was confirmed. After that my addiction consumed my life, if I didn't have it the withdrawals in my opinion were 100x worse than coming down on heroin. I was broke all the time, & I really felt like the most crappiest mom alive. I only smoked when my daughter was asleep at night or if my mom had offered to keep her for a couple days, but the thought of raising my daughter while under the influence really made me sad, so I made a conscious decision to get clean. Shortly after my daughters 1st birthday, I moved in with my mother, & after two weeks of prolonged, awful withdrawals I was finally clean from spice, & I haven't touched it since. I stayed with her for a while until I decided I was ready to move back home, and things went well for a while, but then for some reason I started smoking marijuana again, nothing crazy but usually every night after my daughter would go to sleep I'd sneak outside & enjoy a joint. It never inebriated my ability to care for my daughter in anyway, I was just disappointed in myself for falling back into my past. On October 7th, 2015 I found out I was pregnant with my second angel baby, & I haven't used since. I know 100% without a doubt I won't use while I'm pregnant, & I won't use afterwards because I'm breastfeeding this baby just like I did my DD. I'm just worried about after I'm finished breastfeeding, will I have the strength not to use? Or will I fail myself, & more importantly my children, again? Rehab is out of the question, I would die if I lost custody of my children & since I'm not currently using I don't see the need to go, but I do believe I could use some consuling. I guess I just wanted to put my story out there & see if any other mommas have experienced anything similiar. Thank you all for reading, & any similar stories are appreciated ♡

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  • Seconding other responses--I don't have personal experience but I think you're very brave to share your story and I wish you strength and fortitude in your ongoing recovery. I can't recommend a counselor enough; based on your description, I think it would really help. I think it's great that you're being honest with yourself and willing to share your experiences. If we can help support you or motivate you in any way, please let us know!
  • @MsBeachNJ Thank you for your kind words!

    @MellBabyPeeps I actually had a psychiatrist years ago, but due to problems with my insurance I had to quit attending. I was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder & depression early on, & she thought that a lot of my drug usage stemmed from an abusive childhood from my father & a history of molestation & rape by other family members/ family friends from the ages of 3-11. Even tho I had a crappy childhood I didn't want that to define me, but I do believe that had a lot to do with my drug dependency but I know at some point you have to take responsibility for your own actions. I'm going to do everything in my power to work with my current insurance to find a way to help cover the costs of another psychiatrist.
  • @catherinekate I really appreciate the kind words & support!
  • I have no experience either, but thank you for your honesty, and I'm so so sorry about your childhood. No child should ever have to endure what you did, but you're so right that at some point, you take responsibility for YOUR actions and decisions. All the best to you, mama.
  • I think it is great that you recognize that you have a problem and that you are being honest with yourself and others about it. My SIL was an addict. She has been clean for 5 years and just gave birth to her second child. It is still a daily struggle for her. I would absolutely recommend finding some sort of support group. AA or NA would be my first recommendation. Depending on where you live there are so many resources for people in your position. I would start with a meeting and go from there. I wish you the best of luck in your sobriety and in your life. It really is a hard battle but it's so worth it.


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  • @MamaNicoleof3 Thank you so much!

    @ahernandez16 Thank you so much for sharing your mother's story, it's such a hard thing to deal with but I'm so glad she was able to beat her addiction! I hope that I'm able to stay on the right path just like your mom did for my children, & hopefully you're right that they will grow up to appreciate the sacrifice & the struggle. Your post made me tear up lol darn hormones!

    @fishwife799 Thank you for sharing your SIL's story, I'm very glad that she has maintained her sobriety! I live in a small rural area but I'm definitely going to look into the programs that may be available for me.
  • Like PPs, I commend you for sharing and for seeking out ways to stay clean during your pregnancy and after your child's birth. While I don't have any personal experience here, I do know that therapy and AA/NA have been instrumental in keeping my close friend's SO clean.

    Wish you all the best.
  • @crdo Thank you for the well wishes!
  • @laylahsmomma I don't have any experience with your situation, but I want to echo what previous posters have said about how brave it is for you to share your story. I also wanted to add that whatever your thoughts are on Obamacare, one of the things in it is that they have to have equal mental health coverage and cannot have a max to the number of mental health appointments you can have in a year. So really look into that. I've been in counseling for some of the childhood issues you shared and it has really helped me.


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  • @PBear93 Thank you for the recommendation & the kind words as well, I have Medicaid but I'm uninformed about the mental health coverage.
  • @PBear93 Thank you for the recommendation & the kind words as well, I have Medicaid but I'm uninformed about the mental health coverage.

    Depending on where you live you may be able to find some free mental health services around you.


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  • I'm glad you are taking the steps to help yourself recover. The fact that you care so much is good.

    My husband has had addiction problems as well. Not drugs, but the life controlling factor is similar. We both got a lot of help from the free 12 step program that our church developed. The website for it is https://addictionrecovery.lds.org/?lang=eng That has a lot of information, things to read, videos, and where to find meetings. Anyone is welcome to them. I don't know if your religious, but that helped us and maybe there is something in there that would be helpful even if you're not religious.

    Also, make sure you have someone with whom you can be 100% honest and turn to when you need help. Whether that be a sponsor, friend, counselor or family member, you need to have someone who you are not afraid of judging you.

    Big hugs! And best wishes. If you want to talk more just PM me.
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  • Thank you for sharing your story with us. I have no experience with addictio, but find you incredibly brave for being so honest. I agree with the poster about finding someone you can trust 100% for now and after birth/nursing. If your insurance covers counseling I would suggest that, if not finding a support group may help.

    Stay strong, and I wish you all the best with your pregnancy and beyond.


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  • I commend you for sharing something so personal. If you have Medicaid, there is mental health coverage included. You just have to find a therapist that accepts your type of Medicaid MCO. It is important for you to begin counseling and NA sessions before you have the baby. Sometimes it's easier to help motivate someone to stay clean than to motivate them to get clean.
    I am the daughter of 2 addicts and they lost custody of me and my siblings for a while and that was what motivated them to get clean permanently. I don't want you to have to lose your children, so I need you to take control of this now. You sound like you have the true desire not to use again. Stay focused on that goal, but find the outside help. I believe in you.
  • @AmberLiz99 Thank you! & I'm not very religious, but I'll definitely give it a look.

    @GinnyJ2012 Thank you!

    @mom2beEbby Thank you so much for that, it's so uplifting to know that so many people who don't even know me have faith in my sobriety & actually believe I can do it
  • You're on the right path, and only need to take one step at a time.  Be gentle with yourself for your previous stumbles - you're human.  Every saint has a past, and every sinner has a future;) 

    I've had a decent amount of experience with addiction via family, close friends and patients.  I definitely agree with finding a strong sober support group - AA or NA, perhaps.  I have also seen it be helpful to fully accept that you have an addiction (seems as though you have) and that won't go away.  So you need to find healthy substitutes.  Meaning build a healthier life - work, hobbies, fitness, cooking, returning to school, whatever.  And recognize that you might get a bit obsessive about things.  That's OK - as long as it's a productive/positive obsession.  Surround yourself with healthy people and those who truly encourage your sobriety and steer 100% clear of those who might tempt you back into "just a bit of partying."  As we say in the Lord's prayer, "Lead us not into temptation." 

    Well done thus far, and you can do it. 
  • This post hits home as my sister is a alcoholic and was addicted to opiates today she celebrates her 90 days clean. I agree with pp when they state you are brave for sharing your story. The good part is you aren't in denial and you are scared to "fail" your children again. I think you need to stick to the AA chant "one day at a time" because you can't promise tomorrow. I think you need to get into NA or AA because you need to find a outlet, sponsor and maybe seek a addiction counselor. There are a lot of options for those who need some extra help that don't necessary mean rehab so please be open to help if you need it. Most importantly keep reaching out for help. Much love !!!!
  • Wanted to echo previous posters with more support and encouragement, and to thank you for sharing this with us.  I hope we can be here for you as a resource and a safe place to talk/vent when you need to.  You CAN do this, for you and your babies! All the best to you!

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  • Posts like this are what make this board so great. We all have stories and need support in different ways and now as mothers, we can find the common ground to love and lift each other. I wholeheartedly agree with the support and love given to you. My sister is a recovering addict. She was also raped and found her military boyfriend after he committed suicide. You never know how life will go for you, but how you handle it can change everything. Now is your saving grace. This baby has offered you a second chance. I know you're not very religious, but God sends angels where they are needed. I will pray that you continue down this road successfully and never alone. Much love to you sister.
  • Go girl! Awesome job sharing your story and I am so proud of you for working so hard at sobriety!!

    I am a mental health and substance use therapist and know how difficult it can be to change the addict thinking and behaviors and how ridiculously mind altering substances can be. I work a lot with opiate users particularly and provide community education on opiate use, suboxone medication assisted treatment and Naloxone distribution for opiate OD. There is no shame in admitting an addiction and being willing to accept help. Agree with PPs, use any community resources, use online and apps focused on recovery steps and tools, and engage in any available form of counseling.

    Since you are not a threat of harm to self or others and you are not neglecting your children children and family services would not get involved to take your kids. Do research on providers who are licensed and experienced in addictions and addiction treatment as well as mental health disorders.

    You can definitely do this and use the motivation of being pregnant to stay healthy and have no reason to go back to using when you are done breast feeding. With the help of professionals, if you stay sober for one year, you have over 80% chance of staying sober in the years after!
  • Like the other posters, I strongly suggest you get yourself to a meeting and find a sponsor. Good luck with your sobriety.
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  • @laylahsmomma for what it's worth, I had a wonderful childhood despite my mom's past drug use. Like I mentioned above, I didn't even know about it until I was an adult.

    You're being proactive which is awesome and I have no doubt that you'll be successful on your journey to sobriety. Look how far you've made it already! The love you have for your kids, to take the steps to kick your addiction despite the discomfort it caused you, is very apparent, and they'll have a wonderful childhood simply because you love them.
  • Like many others said, I too think it was brave and admirable of you to share your story here!

    I have dealt with drug addictions within my family, and despite having been prescribed many narcotics and very easily could have fallen into an addiction, it seems that I just don't tend to get addicted to things. However, it was something i always had to be hyper aware of and was a huge concern to me. However, in a different way it was still very hard not to take them because it did mean just submitting to being in a lot of pain. However, I too took myself off everything when I became pregnant despite that doctors said it would be okay to remain on small doses I have managed to make do with just Tylenol and accept the pain as whats necessary to keep my daughter safe. So while that doesnt offer much advice, I of course find it respectable that you too have been able to remain clean for the safety of your child.

    As far as advice goes, I must follow up with what others said and highly recommend a support group! My husband and I in our own struggles have often found groups of this type to be priceless. I never thought in a million years my husband would go to one of these, and after pushing him to go and going to the first few with him, he now goes monthly without me and finds it to be the best thing for him! I know sometimes the idea of going to one is weird or scary, but I encourage you to take the step and try one out a few times! I think it may be exactly what you'll need when the breast feeding comes to an end, so it would be great to start building that relationship now.

    Additionally maybe you will find that extended breast feeding will also help to some degree, maybe breast feeding longer will continue to keep you clean longer, (and continue to provide your child with awesome nutrients, etc!) and may be a win win for both of you. Obviously that will still end at some point, but could atleast help defer it somewhat.

  • Additionally maybe you will find that extended breast feeding will also help to some degree, maybe breast feeding longer will continue to keep you clean longer, (and continue to provide your child with awesome nutrients, etc!) and may be a win win for both of you. Obviously that will still end at some point, but could atleast help defer it somewhat.
    I agree with this.  I don't know how long you nursed your first, but I nursed my older two for 3.5 & 2.5 years, respectively.  For a lot of people that seems cuckoo, but it was just a natural continuation for me and the kids.  Also, I want to put out there that once you get past the infant phase, nursing is MUCH less time-consuming & onerous.  I always worked outside the home (full-time with my first, and then part-time plus school part-time with my second), and stopped pumping @ 13 months & 8 months respectively.  So it doesn't necessarily mean you have to put the rest of your life on hold.  It may buy you some additional time to really get a healthy lifestyle in place so you'll have other sources of support & motivation once you're no longer nursing. 
  • I don't have first hand experience but between my family (all alcoholics) and friends who were addicted to whatever they could get at the time. Addiction is a disease. It is not something someone can quit on their own. There are medications to help with the cravings for after baby is born. My brother recently decided to change his life and seek help, which in my family is something you don't do. No one thinks they have a problem but with an entire bottle of wine a night or an entire bottle of vodka I would say it is a problem. We grew up in the country club where all the adults do is drink, which is why it is not a problem. So the fact that you admit it and want help means you can do this!!! I would highly suggest seeking an addiction counselor in your area. Most are covered by insurance and if you don't have insurance most states will help.

    Please don't take this the wrong way but your family might not be the support you need. If you believe your problem stemmed from your up bringing you might hold them responsible without even being aware. Our mind is very good at blocking the past when we want to but deep down we remember it. I didn't have the best of up bringings either. And I vowed at the age of 14 I was going to do great things in my life and volunteer with kids and show kids in similar situations that what was going on wasn't normal and that there are amazing things in life that they can accomplish no matter what anyone tells them. I decided to put my energy into school and my career and I swear that is the only thing that kept me from doing drugs. It's so easy to smoke to take the edge off the horrible feelings, but it takes hard work not to pick it up! Teach your children what it is like to be strong, show them what love really is, show them a life you didn't get, but above all else don't show them the life that will lead them to do what you are doing.
  • I do not have personal experience, but I am a substance abuse counselor.  I think it would be great for you to do some counseling.  Usually people do not relapse to use, it generally is triggered by something. In fact, when I ran groups, I often would not even talk about drugs/alcohol, rather take about what triggered people to use.  Often people use to cope or to escape from something.  You may be able to find low cost or free counseling sessions through your local mental health center, especially with being pregnant.  I am around if you have questions that I may be able to help with.

    Good luck and be proud of yourself that you stopped using when you found out you were pregnant.   You can do this!!!
  • @Rosehip15 @WaitingMay14 @parsonsperson @shannonrnbsn @June2016BabyW & previous posters; Thank you all so, so much. You all have no idea how good it is to hear such supportive words & wisdom, as what I like to call a "functioning addict" I pretty much suffered in silence, & when family & friends actually found out how bad it was they immediately thought of me as scum of the Earth, my own mother even said "I'd never get better & never amount to nothing but a junkie." In her defense that was after a relapse where she caught me in her bathroom using, she didn't know I was on drugs at that time, I think I was 16 or 17, but still it hurts to hear that sort of stuff. Your alls support literally has moved me to tears, it just blows my mind that absolute strangers would have so much decency & compassion towards another. I know that I will struggle with this for the rest of my life, but I'm determined to give my children the childhood I never had.
    Try to let that awful thing your mother said go and move forward in a healthy future.  It sounds like she's been at least somewhat helpful of late, and that she wants the best for you and your children (if not true, disregard).  As a mother of a pre-teen, I know there are time when I absolutely lose it, and it's out of frustration with her behavior and fear for her well being. 
  • I work in the substance abuse field and have seen so many women going through what you are!! There is no better external reason to quit than your children!! But I agree with other posters that you'll need help through this process. I don't know where you live but most counties have lots of resources especially for mothers and expectant mothers. But even a meeting is a great place to start! I admire you for posting this, what a hard thing to admit! It sounds like you've been through so much and would really benefit from talking to a professional!
  • This hits home for me. My SIL, whom I am extremely close with, was a heroin addict. 
    She is now 23 and been addicted since the age of 15. She has been to 6 rehabs, jail, countless NA meetings and the only thing that has worked for her was she was court ordered to live at an all girls sober living home. She said it was a god send, they were  extremely strict and everyday they worked. Whether it was for a charity or doing community service hours.
    She also said finding god helped her. She attended church every sunday when at the home and still does to this day. 
    Some things she told me which maybe helpful to you:
    Rehab: All 6 she went to she was able to sneak drugs in. She was never clean for more than 24 hours in all of them.
    NA meetings: Most people who attend are court ordered and not looking to stay clean, She found A TON of connections there.

    She said the absolute best thing is attending her church (she goes to a church called cross roads, I believe they accept anyone from any religion) . Shes able to speak with people there about anything and made a lot of positive connections.
  • Unlike what seems like all other posters on here say, I do have personal experience with this situation, and you are doing great! Just the fact that you quick smoking weed when you found out that you were pregnant is a HUGE accomplishment, something that you should be very proud of. That being said, don't be so hard on yourself! My Dr and I agreed that I would quit at 20 weeks to avoid the baby being born with it in its system, and CPS needing to get involved. I know its not going to be easy, so if you have any tips or tricks that worked for you, let me know! Its only 9 days away for me!
  • I'm a recovering alcoholic (6 years sober), but my story was pretty "clean", relatively speaking. When I got sober (I was a binge drinker), I used every possible tool at my disposal. (as an aside, I have generalized anxiety disorder). I went to AA, I had a great sponsor, I did the work, went to meetings, got all new friends, had a therapist, was on medication (had been though), read self-help books. I threw myself into untwisting my life. Your story is much more complicated and you have many factors. But as PPs have said, a LOT of outside help is likely in order. Even with my story, I had to throw the kitchen sink at it. Even now, rehab may be in order to set you on the right track. Even an out patient program may be available to you, if your insurance wouldn't pay for rehab. We have a halfway house in the area for woman (many pregnant and with kids). There may be options like that for you as well. I cannot say enough how important it is to be around women with the same issues, convictions, and desire for a new way of life.

    And as for using, you just can't ever, ever do it again. Not a glass of wine, not a joint, nothing. The slope is so slippery. I do believe that if somebody truly wants sobriety, they can have it, with a lot of work. Keep up your great work and do what's right by yourself and your children. Good luck. You can do it!
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  • I am a mental health and substance abuse counselor, and I just wanted to let you know that you are already on the way to working on your recovery. You are clearly a very strong and loving mother to want to better yourself for your children. You have amazing insight and the fact that you are able to look into the future to a point where using may start up again is wonderful. You are doing great already.
    I would recommend you find supports now, so that they are already in place well before the point you are fearing. Many PP have suggested NA, which I will also. That being said NA and AA are not for everyone! You could do independent research by looking into different types of support groups (that are free) in your neighborhood. A simple Google search should turn up things, and you may be surprised at the amount of them.

    I agree that you do not qualify for rehab or detox at this time since you are not currently using. Here's hoping you won't need that higher level of care in the future! Because you have Medicaid your out of pocket costs for mental health care should actually be relatively low (depending on what state you live in). Many of my clients have Medicaid or Medicare for their primary insurance and have little to no cost for treatment. You could contact your state's Department of Mental Health or research local non profit agencies, those will likely be the most affordable. I think you would benefit from regular individual and group therapy.


    Please feel free to reach out to me or any PP throughout your pregnancy for support. You don't need to suffer in silence anymore. Keep up the great work, I know you will be phenomenal.
  • I am not a recovering addict, but I am married to one (though he was recovered since before I met him), have many in my family and worked with many addicts throughout my career. I want to say that I'm proud of you for quitting during both pregnancies and during breast feeding, not a lot of mom's can do that. I worked in a rehab for awhile and had at of patients who were moms, new mom and pregnant, and as long as their children were In save environments and had someone to watch them while their mothers were in rehab, they had no risk of losing their children. It may be something to look into if you are struggling. You don't have to go through this alone. Also, NA/AA is also an option and you can obtain a sponsor to help you. Try to eliminate friends who are using from your life, change your number, delete social media, or at least block them.
    Good luck to you and again, just remember help is always out there.
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  • Oh and The Power of Now is a good book to read. It's not geared toward addiction, but worth picking up
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