January 2016 Moms

Did you/are you allowing eye ointment?

The eye ointment they put on newborns after they are born---what do you think? Are you personally going to allow it or decline? I've heard mixed feelings on it. I've been more inclined to say no, but I'm not sure! I'm 1w4days out from my due date so I thought it'd be a good idea to ask all of your opinions :)

Also... Does the staff ask you permission before they do something like this? Or do they just have a protocol type thing and automatically put it on your baby unless you specifically tell them ahead of time?

Re: Did you/are you allowing eye ointment?

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  • They automatically put the eye ointment on all 3 of my children. They did not ask so I assume it is just protocol. But I have read a lot of moms denying it. Would love to know the reasons why.
  • The eye ointment is a prophylactic against gonorrhea or chlamydia transmission from the mother's vagina to the baby's eyes. The reasons for refusing or delaying are that 1) it interferes with the baby's vision and may affect the "golden hour" bonding period and 2) anytime antibiotics are administered and there is no infection present, it can contribute to the problem of antibiotic resistance. If you are sure of your gonorrhea/chlamydia status, it is safe to decline the eye ointment.
  • My doctor delays these procedures until after I've had time to breastfeed and have skin to skin contact with baby directly after birth. If you choose to have the ointment but are also confident you're not carrying any bacterial infections then ask if the process can be delayed a bit. This ointment is used for more than just VD, it's also for Bacterial Vaginosis and Pink Eye if you had a bowel movement during labor, etc. We are (typically) tested weekly for infections via our urine samples anyways so our Dr should be confident in our status, but I've carried a mild form of Bacterial Vaginosis on and off throughout this pregnancy (probiotics have worked wonders) but would be bummed if that caused any eye irritation. 

    As a note towards declining this is usually do to unnecessary amounts of antibiotics and forming resistance in the future. 
  • The eye ointment is state mandated in Texas according to our hospital. Either way I wouldn't have a problem with it because I've also had an issue with BV and wouldn't mind the extra security.
  • I allowed it.
    They placed him on my chest and applied ointment while he was on me...
    What I didn't like, was when my son was trying to open his eyes the ointment seemed to bother him and he was struggling.. I asked them to please wipe some of it away so he could open his eyes and they said no
  • I allowed it. They placed him on my chest and applied ointment while he was on me... What I didn't like, was when my son was trying to open his eyes the ointment seemed to bother him and he was struggling.. I asked them to please wipe some of it away so he could open his eyes and they said no
    Would you do it again? I feel like I should definitely do it due to BV in the past but am not a fan of antibiotics in the slightest.
  • I denied erythromycin with all of my children. 
  • I would do it again...
    I was strep b positive and although I did have like 7-8 rounds of penicillin before he was born I felt like it was another thing that protected him.
    (I dunno if it does or not)

    They told me the ointment needed to get in his eyes to work, but he's got these tiny tiny eye lids so I feel like they put too much on his eyes.
    He'd open his eyes then close then like he was struggling to open his eyes. I'm a FTM so it kinda bothered me a bit...
    I just wanted to wipe some of it off so he didn't have to struggle to open his eyes.
  • 100% going to allow it, since I have no way of knowing definitively if baby will come into any kind of bad bacteria on her journey out of the birth canal, and because the complications if she does can be really bad (like, blindness!)  Also, my hospital has an option to delay all procedures for one hour, if you prefer, so you can have immediate skin to skin, bonding, breastfeeding, etc., and we'll be opting for that, unless there's an emergency.  Maybe other hospitals do this as well?
  • I'm not even completely sure if it's done for c-sections, I just don't remember. If it is, then yes, baby will have it. I'd rather deal with a goopy-eyed baby for a little while now, than feel the horrible guilt later if there was an infection.

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  • @GAgirlinSDakota I had csections for my boys and they both had it done.
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  • @GAgirlinSDakota I had csections for my boys and they both had it done.
    Thanks!  I remember my vaginal babies having it, but with the whirl of stuff happening after my sections I just never noticed.

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  • I will be allowing it. I'm all for standard procedures, and I know this is normal for my hospital. At my class they did say they have us sign permission for everything and I assume this includes the eye treatment, we were also assured it doesn't sting the baby at all. This seems like one of those things where the benefits outweigh anything else. 
  • My first baby had it and it didn't affect her or our bond in any negative way. We had immediate skin to skin and then after a bit they took her to get weighed and do all the ointment and all the other things in the same delivery room while she had her little hand wrapped tight around DH's finger. <3 We like to say the tables quickly turned there bc DD sure has Daddy wrapped around her finger now.
  • I signed something saying I would allow for the eye goop, shots and blood tests. I had a c-section and they still put the eye stuff on.
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  • I did it with both. I had immediate skin to skin after birth for over an hour plus breastfed baby also befor they took them and did the eye cream and vitamin k shot and such!
  • Thanks guys for the replies! Really helps. I do have another question about it:

    How long is the ointment suppose to actually stay on your baby's eyes? I mean... It eventually gets wiped off after a certain amount of time, I would imagine.
  • Thanks guys for the replies! Really helps. I do have another question about it:

    How long is the ointment suppose to actually stay on your baby's eyes? I mean... It eventually gets wiped off after a certain amount of time, I would imagine.

    My son's was absorbed/rubbed off after a couple hours of sleeping. It didn't last long I thought.



  • My midwife actually discouraged me from having the erythromycin based on a recent position statement published by the Canadian Paediatric Society in March 2015:
    • Neonatal ocular prophylaxis with erythromycin, the only agent currently available in Canada for this purpose, may no longer be useful and, therefore, should not be routinely recommended.
    https://www.cps.ca/en/documents/position/ophthalmia-neonatorum
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  • kvacmak said:

    My midwife actually discouraged me from having the erythromycin based on a recent position statement published by the Canadian Paediatric Society in March 2015:

    • Neonatal ocular prophylaxis with erythromycin, the only agent currently available in Canada for this purpose, may no longer be useful and, therefore, should not be routinely recommended.
    https://www.cps.ca/en/documents/position/ophthalmia-neonatorum
    Yep, my midwife gave me the same info about it not actually being as helpful as previously thought. I am declining it.
  • I allowed it. Didn't notice any issues with bonding or breastfeeding.
  • We allowed it. He latched on just minutes after being gunked up...no problems.
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  • We allowed it but wiped it off so it wasn't so heavy.
  • I haven't read through the entire post....but as a nurse, I HIGHLY encourage you to allow the eye ointment and vitamin K shots regardless of your stance on all other vaccines! Like other moms said, if the ointment drives you crazy you can wipe some of it off. But most definitely a better safe than sorry situation. Why even risk the chance of an infection to your new baby....If it doesn't work or your baby didn't have any bacteria in their eye, did it cause any harm? But if it saved them from pain and weeks/months of medication in their eye, wasn't it worth it? The vitamin K is a vital shot to keep them from bleeding since their blood doesn't clot normally at birth :) --I know you didn't ask about that, but apparently it is getting more common for parents to decline it.
  • @katelyndcoleman I like your advice! And we did do the vitamin k shot. I always like to hear from nurses on here because I believe you guys are way more privvy and aware of incidences with illnesses and how decisions effect the babies. It's definitely one thing to read the research, and that's important, but also to consider the "real life" consequences, and hearing from actual caregivers how these decisions effect the little ones.
  • @katelyndcoleman Since we're playing the "I'm a nurse" card I'll say I am also an RN who has worked in Paediatric Intensive care and I prefer to make my decisions based on scientific evidence, such as what I shared above, rather than personal beliefs or anecdotes. If you read the whole post you would see it. Since you prefer not to do that, I'll share it again: 
    https://www.cps.ca/en/documents/position/ophthalmia-neonatorum
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  • I am declining the ointment but not Vitamin K or vaccines. I don't have Strep B or STDs. As a lesbian my risk for STDs is much lower than the general population. I don't feel that it's necessary given that I have no risk factors or infections.
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  • I live in the Netherlands and it is not done here
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  • https://evidencebasedbirth.com/is-erythromycin-eye-ointment-always-necessary-for-newborns/

    There have been no studies that show that the eye ointment effectively prevents conjunctivitis caused by bacterial infections. Studies have been almost exclusively limited to std related eye infections.
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