My LO is about to hit 4 weeks old, and the past week he's been extremely fussy at night. During the day he's fine - he sleeps great, but then at night he wakes up every 45 mins to an hour and screams for over an hour straight. I'm convinced it's not colic - just maybe he has his days and nights mixed up.
Anyways, the lack of sleep is causing my husband to have a lack of patience. Which is understandable. He's gotten a little rough with him out of frustration - not to the point of hurting him...just pressing him against his chest a little too hard for my liking or burping him a little too hard for what I think would be appropriate. I tried bringing it up a few days ago - and he got really upset, saying he doesn't know what to do when he's screaming like that and he gets even more frustrated when the baby immediately calms down when put to breast - even if he's not eating. He gets angry and says he needs to be able to calm him for when I go back to work and he's by himself. I try to peacefully remind him during the evenings to take a deep breath, and calm down - and he says that he doesn't like me saying that because it makes him feel like an incapable father.
Well, last night was especially bad. Baby screamed for like 3 hrs; only thing that consoled him was being next to my breast - even though he again wasn't eating during that time because he was already full. I was sick - and couldn't just sit there and hold him like that....and even if he fell asleep, the second I moved him he woke up; and when he realized he wasn't next to me would scream. My husband took a turn in the rocking chair with him, and was pressing his face against his chest. Which only upset the baby more - so my husband pushed against his straining and held his head there tighter. He finally calmed down - but an hour later I noticed a small bruise on his cheek.
I'm convinced it was from their rocking session and my husband being too rough in holding him. I need some advice in how to talk to my husband about this. He was always exceptionally helpful with my first - and he's never EVER intentionally hurt either one. But I'm worried if I don't help him get his temper under control he's going to unintentionally hurt him because of exhaustion and screaming. I tried telling him to just put him down and walk away to take a breather - and he says he can't just listen to him scream.
This is really hard. I don't have any advice but wanted to offer support and say it's great that you reached out for help. I would definitely avoid leaving him home with dad until he can show that he has his temper under control. Sleep deprivation and frustration can definitely take its toll, but it's your job as baby's mom (and dad) to prevent it from escalating to that level. Sending hugs and hope you get some actual advice from someone who has been there.
He needs parenting classes and anger management ASAP. I wouldn't let him be alone with the baby if he acted like that. Whether he meant it or not that is abuse. He needs to know that's not ok. Being tired is not an excuse.
I agree with the PP he should not be alone with the baby until he had his anger under control. If you have not done so already I would point out the bruise to you H, he may not realize how rough he is being. Can the two of you brainstorm and/or google a list of ideas to try to calm a baby? Maybe if he has a list of things to try he may feel more prepared and not use force. In the mean time could your husband watch the baby after work when they are both calmer so you can get some sleep? If your husband is a reader I would really recommend The Happiest Baby on the Block or at least google the 5S's.
While I don't have advice for the roughness issue while I was in the hospital one of the nurses gave my DH a trick for calming baby. She told him to hold him and put his pinky finger in his mouth. Some babies who like to nurse for comfort can be soothed this way. We had BF issues while there and they were more that LO was hungry because he wasn't getting much from me. So we didn't really get to try it.
While I don't have advice for the roughness issue while I was in the hospital one of the nurses gave my DH a trick for calming baby. She told him to hold him and put his pinky finger in his mouth. Some babies who like to nurse for comfort can be soothed this way. We had BF issues while there and they were more that LO was hungry because he wasn't getting much from me. So we didn't really get to try it.
This was recommended to us in the hospital. We still do it and it works like a charm.
Oh my! Intentional or not that is abusive and as others have said he really shouldn't be alone with LO until he can sort through things. It can be exceptionally frustrating when you can't comfort a crying newborn so that I can understand (both my kids had/have reflux and colic), but whenever one feels that level of exhaustion from the crying you just need to walk away and collect yourself as you told him. It is better for LO and him that way. This phase with LO won't last and colic or not, try soothing tactics recommended for colic as that could work.
I am genuinely scared for your LO. Like @Elyse1384said, intentional or not, your DH just abused your son, please do not leave him alone with your DH until he gets help and has been calm for at least a few months. Good luck!
My hospital handed out a DVD on how to cope with a crying baby. Call your hospital L&D dept and see if they have this. Or talk to your pedi or a therapist on how your husband can cope with a screaming LO.
I wouldn't leave him alone with your baby until you can sort this out. Perhaps you take care of LO when they are crying at night and have your husband take shifts during the day.
My LO is about to hit 4 weeks old, and the past week he's been extremely fussy at night. During the day he's fine - he sleeps great, but then at night he wakes up every 45 mins to an hour and screams for over an hour straight. I'm convinced it's not colic - just maybe he has his days and nights mixed up.
Anyways, the lack of sleep is causing my husband to have a lack of patience. Which is understandable. He's gotten a little rough with him out of frustration - not to the point of hurting him...just pressing him against his chest a little too hard for my liking or burping him a little too hard for what I think would be appropriate. I tried bringing it up a few days ago - and he got really upset, saying he doesn't know what to do when he's screaming like that and he gets even more frustrated when the baby immediately calms down when put to breast - even if he's not eating. He gets angry and says he needs to be able to calm him for when I go back to work and he's by himself.
He is hurting your baby out of frustration. I know its hard to hear but it's completely unacceptable. You need to speak on behalf of your baby. If this is how he deals with a newborn, what is he going to do further down the line? Because as horrible as it sounds, If crying was driving me mad I would put my baby down somewhere safely (cot etc) and just step outside the room for five minutes. But once they're older, they'll be screaming and following you around, there will be less ways to "escape" immediately and it sounds to me if your Other half can't pull it together now with a baby, he might end up lashing out physically.
Is there someone else you can speak to? A close friend or family member? You've also said he will be looking after the baby when you're back at work... From what you've written it sounds like a terrible idea :-( it doesn't sound like he thinks he can do it either.
Ps I'm not actually a violent person, (besides the joint threats of punching people that I make on here a lot...) but seriously, if anyone left a bruise on my baby's cheek... I don't care who, even the queen of England, they would get a return bruise from me.
When I came home from the hospital I was alone with LO at nights because SO was working. There were a few times when I was super sleep deprived and frustrated. I did what the hospital recommended and would leave LO in a safe spot (bassinet, bouncer, etc), go into the bathroom and take a five minute breather. It would help me collect my cool and when I felt like I could handle the situation I would attend to my LO. Letting her cry for 5 minutes won't hurt her but being an overly stressed out mom (or dad) might. This worked really well for me and I never was rough with my LO as a result. I would suggest this to your husband. Also I second the anger management/ counseling. I've dealt with anger issues for years and counseling has really helped. Also just being able to take a nap and get a little extra sleep when I can has helped as well. Best of luck!
I wouldn't be able to leave my child alone with someone like that... These sound like they are early warning signs of an anger problem. I wouldn't let him stick around to see if it gets worse if I felt my child was in danger.
"If you do that to the baby again, you will find your shit on the street and the locks to the house changed. Find a grown up way to deal with your frustrations towards an innocent baby or expect to receive divorce papers."
Simple.
Your baby cannot speak for itself and relies on you to be his advocate and protect him. What your husband did is unacceptable and the last thing I'd be worried about is his poor feelings. He'll get over it or he won't. But at least you'll know that you did what you had to do to protect your baby.
I'm sorry but I can't sugar coat my response because what he did is unacceptable.
This exactly. Every bit of it. I don't love anyone more than I love my children, not even DH.
Please don't just let this go. I know you haven't responded and I don't know whether you just haven't checked this post or if you are just stressing about what to do, but from somebody who has seen how this escalates in later years you NEED to get help for him immediately. My mom and step dad had twins when I was 14. My stepdad became very abusive emotionally due to frustration and not being able to handle the twins when they were fussy. They suffered from multiple health issues and I was often given one baby to take care of while my mother took care of the other one because they would both be screaming from colic for hours and hours, months and months. He would pass whichever one he was trying to soothe to me and take off. It never got better. He became MIA most of their young child years and when he was around he was awful to them. There were times that I would be in screaming matches with him because he would be screaming at the twins due to a bad attitude at the age of 3 and 4. He has told them awful things and it's gotten to the point where my mom has divorced him and the police have been involved multiple times. Just on Christmas Day, he locked my sister who is 7 in a dark room for an hour because she had back talked him. She is afraid of the dark and deathly afraid of being locked in the dark. This was on CHRISTMAS DAY. I don't know your situation. I don't know your husband, and I sure as hell don't expect you to take any advice from me or to consider that your husband could ever act this way. Baby's are fragile, but they are also very sturdy. It takes a LOT of pressure for a baby to bruise, and once again, I don't know this for sure, but it would be VERY difficult for him to bruise his cheek by pressing him against his chest. There is more to this that needs to be looked into. You are your child's whole world. It's protector, provider. The only thing that can keep that darling baby alive. It is depending on you to thrive, and grow up happy. Please do what's best for that baby. Whether it's getting help for your husband, or other action I am begging you to not leave this alone, and to not stay quiet about it before it escalates any more.
I think to start, you should point out the bruise to him. The appropriate reaction would be for your husband to be upset that he hurt the baby unintentionally. That is how you open the door to talk about what he can do to cope when baby is screaming, and what is inappropriate. I am sure your pediatrician or OB/midwife may be able to point you to resources for him. Ultimately, he needs to learn strategies to cope so that you can trust him eventually with your baby. Be your baby's advocate, or your H will not learn to control his temper.
If he's not horrified that he hurt the baby, then you need to get him some counseling, ASAP.
You've gotten plenty of advice regarding the fact that he hurt the baby, so I won't add to it.
As far as managing frustration, men generally need to fix things, so give him tools for his toolbox. Tell him to try, burping, changing, laying baby on his tummy and rubbing his back, walking in circles around the coffee table while holding baby upright and close, the hold that PPs mentioned, gripe water...or whatever you normally do. Then remind him that newborns sometimes just cry and even the best parent in the world just has to do their best to comfort and wait it out. My hubby has said similar things, "I don't know what to do," and, "I'm bad at being a dad." Remind him that pretty much all dads don't know what to do with a newborn, that babies often just want their mommies, and that in a couple years daddy is going to be the fun one for LO to be around. It doesn't make him incompetent if he can't calm a crying newborn every time.
We have a rule at night, if one of us is starting to get frustrated, they MUST hand off the baby to the other one. Because baby will feel the frustration and definitely won't calm down.
You've gotten a lot of advice about his anger that you should definitely take. I don't really have anything else to add in that regard.
As far as the not being able to just set him down and leave the room (because he can't stand to hear him cry) I get. I find that putting in my earbuds and listening to one good song and getting a drink of water helps immensely.
If you saw a day care provider doing to your baby what your DH is doing, would you tolerate it? I am hoping the answer is no, and my follow up question is, why are you giving DH a free pass? This is your baby and you need to advocate for him before something horrible happens.
I hope you've done something by now. I honestly fear for your child's safety. You cannot let this keep on happening. If you do, then you're going to end up a mother to a dead baby. I hate to use those words but I hope that you see them and you realize how serious this is. I refuse to sugar coat what he's doing to your child. If you can't protect your child please give him to someone who will.
My LO is about to hit 4 weeks old, and the past week he's been extremely fussy at night. During the day he's fine - he sleeps great, but then at night he wakes up every 45 mins to an hour and screams for over an hour straight. I'm convinced it's not colic - just maybe he has his days and nights mixed up. .../blockquote>
My husband uses his little finger instead of a breast. Does your LO like it ? If he can find a way to calm the baby himself (when baby is not hungry) it should help tremendously.
@bigbabyfaceAny updates? Have you decided what you're going to do for the best? I really feel concerned for both you and your baby, it's not often I give a shit about people (excluding babies), so please understand my concern.
Thanks for all the responses ladies. I stopped checking the post that afternoon because I was starting to feel the posts were more judge mental than helpful and I think a part of it was because I was so emotional. I get that this can escalate - and I understand the importance of it. I've responded to people's homes with injured children - I get it.
I brought the bruise up immediately that night, which wasn't very helpful because he was in such a bad state. I brought it up again the next morning which was more constructive. Anytime he's gotten a little rough with burping or bouncing he's always snapped at me saying he's not going to hurt him. I think he's forgotten how fragile babies are because my 2 year old is so sturdy. He runs into walls and trips on the sidewalk and bounces right back up. He's used to wrestling and rough housing with my older.
The look on his face when I approached him about the bruise the next morning was down right heart broken. And even though it sucked I made sure to subtly throw it into conversation throughout the afternoon before he went to work. I made sure he felt he importance of it. And I think it hit him pretty hard that HE did that, and he was the only reason why it happened. We've spent the last two days working out a way to have him handle the evenings better. We went out and bought a new camera, that we installed in our large walkin closet. We placed a momaroo and low light lamp in there, last night any time my husband felt he was getting frustrated he placed him in the momaroo swaddled, turned on the sound machine part of it and took a breather. I think having him muffled a little bit helped the situation - he kind of echoes in our room because we have a lot of Windows.
I've also spent the past few days working on getting an extra week off of work. Although it might be slightly unfair in duty splitting we're going to be having him do the majority of the evening care (other than feeding obviously) while I'm there in case he starts to fail. That way he can establish a routine and 'toolbox' while he has me there before I go back to work. Kinda like a safety net I guess.
My husband has never been aggressive towards any person or animal in the almost 10 years we've been together. I think this past week just got to him with the change in work schedule, the lack of sleep and the frustration of feeling like a failing parent. He Truely feels like crap for leaving a thumbprint bruise, I was more or less looking for guidance on how to bring up the subject than for judgement against him which I kind of feel like one or two of you went for. Either way I appreciate the concern.
The mamaroo in the closet is a great idea. Sounds like you guys have a plan in place so that doesn't happen again. Thanks for the update. I'm relieved to hear you took steps to protect your LO.
I felt a little weird putting it in the closet, but his room is clear across the house. This way he's close, but not AS loud.
I get the exhaustion isn't an excuse, but I'm starting to see that's really a large part of it. Thankfully this change in his work schedule is only for this week. I think he's been extremely overwhelmed with a lot of things that have been going on lately - I feel partially to blame that I didn't see it sooner.
Great job dealing with a difficult situation. May I suggest getting a yoga/exercise ball? My niece had colic, and bouncing on it lightly with her in our arms worked wonders. Yesterday my LO was super fussy, and my DH and I spent a lot of time on the ball. It was tiring, but it worked. You can get them for pretty cheap on amazon.
For whatever reason it cut off my post. Our youngest doesn't take to the yoga ball, or the pinky finger trick. He also hates pacifiers, no matter what size or brand we give him he rejects it. He almost gags on it because he hates it so much. I think the fact that my first loved my husband so much, and at night would only fall asleep on him - is another reason why he's having a hard time right now. He is used to being able to instantly soothe our oldest - and our new little one doesn't really care for anything other than a boob
For whatever reason it cut off my post. Our youngest doesn't take to the yoga ball, or the pinky finger trick. He also hates pacifiers, no matter what size or brand we give him he rejects it. He almost gags on it because he hates it so much. I think the fact that my first loved my husband so much, and at night would only fall asleep on him - is another reason why he's having a hard time right now. He is used to being able to instantly soothe our oldest - and our new little one doesn't really care for anything other than a boob
One thing that worked with us for my older daughter was using the exact same little blanket (really 2on rotation while one was being cleaned) every time I nursed her. It took a little while but she started to associate that blanket with nursing. Then husband was able to hold her with that blanket to calm her down when she wanted a "lean on Mom's boob but not nurse" moment. We used a really silky blanket- very different texture from the rest of her blankets, and also much smaller. (I know it's a while away, but it also helped with weaning.) I'm glad you are taking great steps to help your husband and your little one!
All I will add is please DO NOT leave your baby alone with him until this is resolved. Your husband is basically telling you he CAN NOT handle LO right now. So if something we're to happen then that is YOUR FAULT just as much as it is his. It is your responsibility to protect that baby and it takes a split second to go from being frustrated to having a dead baby (to be very blunt). I'm not saying that your H doesn't love your baby but all the elements of having a new baby can be rough. He needs to understand loud and clear that's not ok in any way shape or form. I'm sure he doesn't want to hear that because it makes him feel "crazy" but it's true. And I don't care how tired or sick you feel you need to step up and care for the baby until he gets this worked out. There's single mom's all over that do this alone. Or bring someone into the home or go to someone's home (mom, sister, friend etc) and get some help while you rest a little. PLEASE PLEASE PROTECT YOUR BABY!
Re: Advice on roughness
Whether he meant it or not that is abuse. He needs to know that's not ok. Being tired is not an excuse.
Can the two of you brainstorm and/or google a list of ideas to try to calm a baby? Maybe if he has a list of things to try he may feel more prepared and not use force.
In the mean time could your husband watch the baby after work when they are both calmer so you can get some sleep?
If your husband is a reader I would really recommend The Happiest Baby on the Block or at least google the 5S's.
https://youtu.be/j2C8MkY7Co8
Edited cuz the wrong link posted
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I wouldn't leave him alone with your baby until you can sort this out. Perhaps you take care of LO when they are crying at night and have your husband take shifts during the day.
Is there someone else you can speak to? A close friend or family member? You've also said he will be looking after the baby when you're back at work... From what you've written it sounds like a terrible idea :-( it doesn't sound like he thinks he can do it either.
Ps I'm not actually a violent person, (besides the joint threats of punching people that I make on here a lot...) but seriously, if anyone left a bruise on my baby's cheek... I don't care who, even the queen of England, they would get a return bruise from me.
My mom and step dad had twins when I was 14. My stepdad became very abusive emotionally due to frustration and not being able to handle the twins when they were fussy. They suffered from multiple health issues and I was often given one baby to take care of while my mother took care of the other one because they would both be screaming from colic for hours and hours, months and months. He would pass whichever one he was trying to soothe to me and take off. It never got better. He became MIA most of their young child years and when he was around he was awful to them. There were times that I would be in screaming matches with him because he would be screaming at the twins due to a bad attitude at the age of 3 and 4. He has told them awful things and it's gotten to the point where my mom has divorced him and the police have been involved multiple times.
Just on Christmas Day, he locked my sister who is 7 in a dark room for an hour because she had back talked him. She is afraid of the dark and deathly afraid of being locked in the dark. This was on CHRISTMAS DAY.
I don't know your situation. I don't know your husband, and I sure as hell don't expect you to take any advice from me or to consider that your husband could ever act this way. Baby's are fragile, but they are also very sturdy. It takes a LOT of pressure for a baby to bruise, and once again, I don't know this for sure, but it would be VERY difficult for him to bruise his cheek by pressing him against his chest. There is more to this that needs to be looked into.
You are your child's whole world. It's protector, provider. The only thing that can keep that darling baby alive. It is depending on you to thrive, and grow up happy. Please do what's best for that baby. Whether it's getting help for your husband, or other action I am begging you to not leave this alone, and to not stay quiet about it before it escalates any more.
If he's not horrified that he hurt the baby, then you need to get him some counseling, ASAP.
As far as managing frustration, men generally need to fix things, so give him tools for his toolbox. Tell him to try, burping, changing, laying baby on his tummy and rubbing his back, walking in circles around the coffee table while holding baby upright and close, the hold that PPs mentioned, gripe water...or whatever you normally do. Then remind him that newborns sometimes just cry and even the best parent in the world just has to do their best to comfort and wait it out. My hubby has said similar things, "I don't know what to do," and, "I'm bad at being a dad." Remind him that pretty much all dads don't know what to do with a newborn, that babies often just want their mommies, and that in a couple years daddy is going to be the fun one for LO to be around. It doesn't make him incompetent if he can't calm a crying newborn every time.
We have a rule at night, if one of us is starting to get frustrated, they MUST hand off the baby to the other one. Because baby will feel the frustration and definitely won't calm down.
As far as the not being able to just set him down and leave the room (because he can't stand to hear him cry) I get. I find that putting in my earbuds and listening to one good song and getting a drink of water helps immensely.
I brought the bruise up immediately that night, which wasn't very helpful because he was in such a bad state. I brought it up again the next morning which was more constructive. Anytime he's gotten a little rough with burping or bouncing he's always snapped at me saying he's not going to hurt him. I think he's forgotten how fragile babies are because my 2 year old is so sturdy. He runs into walls and trips on the sidewalk and bounces right back up. He's used to wrestling and rough housing with my older.
The look on his face when I approached him about the bruise the next morning was down right heart broken. And even though it sucked I made sure to subtly throw it into conversation throughout the afternoon before he went to work. I made sure he felt he importance of it. And I think it hit him pretty hard that HE did that, and he was the only reason why it happened. We've spent the last two days working out a way to have him handle the evenings better. We went out and bought a new camera, that we installed in our large walkin closet. We placed a momaroo and low light lamp in there, last night any time my husband felt he was getting frustrated he placed him in the momaroo swaddled, turned on the sound machine part of it and took a breather. I think having him muffled a little bit helped the situation - he kind of echoes in our room because we have a lot of Windows.
I've also spent the past few days working on getting an extra week off of work. Although it might be slightly unfair in duty splitting we're going to be having him do the majority of the evening care (other than feeding obviously) while I'm there in case he starts to fail. That way he can establish a routine and 'toolbox' while he has me there before I go back to work. Kinda like a safety net I guess.
My husband has never been aggressive towards any person or animal in the almost 10 years we've been together. I think this past week just got to him with the change in work schedule, the lack of sleep and the frustration of feeling like a failing parent. He Truely feels like crap for leaving a thumbprint bruise, I was more or less looking for guidance on how to bring up the subject than for judgement against him which I kind of feel like one or two of you went for. Either way I appreciate the concern.
I get the exhaustion isn't an excuse, but I'm starting to see that's really a large part of it. Thankfully this change in his work schedule is only for this week. I think he's been extremely overwhelmed with a lot of things that have been going on lately - I feel partially to blame that I didn't see it sooner.
I'm glad you are taking great steps to help your husband and your little one!