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October 2015 Moms
midge519
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Silent Reflux?
midge519
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Anyone deal with it??
Damien has been such a different baby in the last few weeks. He used to sleep well and eat and nap during the day with normal fussy periods. But the last week or two he has been incredibly cranky. The last week has been the worst, even worse than brand new baby first few days home.
He cries almost all the time. A quiet time of more than 10 minutes is lucky. He will be happy for the first hour of the day if I'm lucky. after that he is constantly crying. You can tell there is something wrong but nothing seems to work. Sometimes bouncing him will help, sometimes white noise, sometimes rocking, sometimes nothing. We use gas drops when he seems really gassy but they don't typically seem to do anything. He always swallows hard when he nurses as if he's guzzling and when he isn't eating we hear his swallow a good amount of the time. And when he does swallow it sounds like a hard swallow. He doesn't spit up a lot but does a little bit. He has also been fighting to eat a lot. Just screaming at my nipple while its in his mouth. Sometimes I can squirt milk into his mouth and he'll eat other times I have to stop and try to soothe him and try again.
Sorry this is all over the place I'm just trying to figure out what's wrong other than a wonder week/growth spurt since this is far worse than he's ever been. He has an appointment tomorrow for his two month check up so I'm definitely going to bring it up.
Damien has been such a different baby in the last few weeks. He used to sleep well and eat and nap during the day with normal fussy periods. But the last week or two he has been incredibly cranky. The last week has been the worst, even worse than brand new baby first few days home.
He cries almost all the time. A quiet time of more than 10 minutes is lucky. He will be happy for the first hour of the day if I'm lucky. after that he is constantly crying. You can tell there is something wrong but nothing seems to work. Sometimes bouncing him will help, sometimes white noise, sometimes rocking, sometimes nothing. We use gas drops when he seems really gassy but they don't typically seem to do anything. He always swallows hard when he nurses as if he's guzzling and when he isn't eating we hear his swallow a good amount of the time. And when he does swallow it sounds like a hard swallow. He doesn't spit up a lot but does a little bit. He has also been fighting to eat a lot. Just screaming at my nipple while its in his mouth. Sometimes I can squirt milk into his mouth and he'll eat other times I have to stop and try to soothe him and try again.
Sorry this is all over the place I'm just trying to figure out what's wrong other than a wonder week/growth spurt since this is far worse than he's ever been. He has an appointment tomorrow for his two month check up so I'm definitely going to bring it up.
Re: Silent Reflux?
P.S. Please update this thread and let us know what your ped says, if anything.
-Arching his back with hands up, as if stretching
-Congested nose from the milk that comes up
-Sneezing often and coughing
-You hear and see him swallowing it back long after feeding
-If it's really bad - crying madly when laying horizontally and content again when lifted up
-Waking often at night in some cases (like ours
We are on Renitidine (Zantac) since Wednesday after a bad episode last week and it seems to help.
I would definitely bring it up to your pediatrician and see what they say
Any other patterns or changes you have noticed with feeding? Such as spitting up, dribbling, burping with vomiting, face expressions which seem like There is something sour at the back of the tongue.
Also, no thrush or white patches on the tongue right ?
@mihaelams1 he always goes completely stiff and arches his back. He seems congested a good amount but he never has boogies. He sneezes in sets of twos almost every day but doesn't cough much. He is constantly swallowing and it's typically hard swallowing. Sometimes it's silent swallowing and I see the funny faces he makes when doing it. He is waking more.
@jasmineluke I'm almost never engorged any more but he has always sounded like he's gulping or swallowing air a minute or two after latching. I do pump and bottle feed usually once a day and he typically fights the bottle then too. He spits up a little more now than he used to but it's not an alarming amount. Just enough to notice usually. Today was the most ever and even then it wasn't a lot. He does make faces while swallowing in between feedings quite a lot. He used to sleep for one 4-6 hour stretch followed by a 2 hour stretch and now he is constantly up and down all night to where I can't get sleep unless I bring him in bed with me and he's in my arms. No white patches,I was checking for that today
the symptoms sounds similar to my LO.
Hopefully pediatrician will give you some more light on the situation.
All things pass...I've realized slowly lol... Reflux usually peaks at 3 months but should get better from there onwards.
In the meantime keeping them on an incline helps. Feeding when they are really hungry helps (not just dabbling at the breast or bottle) - feeding seems to go smoother then.
Good luck!
Edited to add- he thinks once the constipation is dealt with he'll handle the reflux better
I hope it helps!
My LO has both too.., hopefully just a phase !
Good luck mamma !
It worked for her today. Took two tries but I make an effort to do it when I feel she's becoming more constipated. I just do warm compresses with every diaper change
As for miralax, it works but be careful on using it over a very extended amount of time. My DD used to be constipated due to formula, which I believe was due to an iron intolerance (I can't take any vitamins with iron in it). I had her go to three different pediatricians from her first bout at 2 weeks until about a year. They had her on karo syrup in her formula, which didn't work, then mineral oil, then miralax. I finally had enough and switched to our current pediatrician before her 2nd birthday, and she said that miralax shouldn't be given to anyone for an extended period of time, so my Dr came up with a timetable to wean her off medicine and ways to promote bowel movements by way of diet. Obviously, baby is small, so there's much you can do and if the miralax works for now, great, but once you can start other food and giving some water, it'll help. Also a warning for when you start feeding did, rice cereal constipated but the oatmeal does not. Avoid bananas and apple baby foods as well.
Warm baths and rectal stimulation helps to relieve constipation. When they are super uncomfortable and miserable, I have resorted to liquid suppositories. The liquid ones are the best and work quickly. DD had developed anal fissures and hemorrhoids when she held her movements for too long and then would be scared to go lasted on, which was a nightmare. Plus. Larger movements expand the colon and make it harder to feel when they need to go. It's a vicious cycle.
Good luck to you!
DS is gaining weight like crazy, which is great for a baby with reflux, but it also means a constant adjustment of the zantac. Last three nights have not been fun. With Dr permission according to his weight, we were able to up the dose yesterday. He's like a different baby today. Dr thinks that once he starts more real food, like cereal which is heavier and harder to yak up so he can keep it down, we'll start to wean him off of the zantac.
And I know dealing with constipation really sucks for all involved. We had one episode that ended us at the hospital because I thought something else was wrong when she was 2 and I had intussuception and needed an emergency surgery and appendectomy at age 3. Turned out with an X-ray she was completely backed up but didn't want to go for fear of pain. It's horrible and horrible to see our babies in pain.
He's back to crying a ton today, and it was his first day since at home most of the day. He has had moments of his happy self but it always ends in him freaking out. I have started holding him pretty upright after eating to see if that helps. It seems to stop him from freaking out right away. I've also found he seems to prefer being up on my shoulder as if being burped all the time.
If you are not using Zantac, I find that infant gas meds or Gripe Water help a little in terms of settling down the stomach. At night now, I give DS a bath and a massage with bedtime lotion right before bed because it relaxes him tremendously and seems to keep his tummy calm as well. Now I even give him his meds while in the bath just so he won't freak out and toss it up. So far, so good. He's now sleeping 5-7 hour spurts at night and he is like a new baby!
I figured out with DS's reflux was part of the problem I had was I had to feed him with a nipple shield for a while. I have a pretty forceful letdown and it would fill the shield and he'd take a suck and then choke. We've been working on (1) nursing with no shield with success (2) frequent stopping to burp a little on both sides during nursing (3) nursing semi upright. When I was told he had reflux, I found this website to be really helpful: https://kellymom.com/hot-topics/reflux/
I can tell you though, if you're nursing, it's nothing compared to a formula fed baby with reflux. DD had it but was misdiagnosed and had issues with almost every formula we tried. She projectile vomited every single time she ate. It was horrible. She was up from 10pm-2am every night for 3 months crying. I ended up driving the Steak N Shake a lot in the car to get her to sleep...and me a half price milkshake at 2 am lol. Hey, it kept my sanity. :-P
OH! and for the constipation, warm bath and bicycle the legs whenever you can. It'll keep everything moving. make sure you are pushing the knees up to the chest! It helps let the gas escape and helps them push.
OP, did the dr say why he thinks LO is constipated? Your LO sounds like my DS3. I nursed my other sons so I felt pretty confident breastfeeding but DS3 had such trouble starting around 6 wks, he would fuss and refuse. He had other "problems" like really bad gas, silent reflux, mucousy stools... and by 8 wks I saw blood in his stools. Long story short he had MSPI, or milk soy protein intolerance. I ended up on an elimination diet, removing all dairy and soy from my diet. He wasn't able to properly digest the proteins, causing all these problems for him.
It's something you could look into and talk to your doctor about. It took some time for me to figure out my diet and get him settled but we definitely saw improvement within a few days of cutting dairy out of my diet. It is definitely tough! Dairy is in everything! You would want to remove it completely, so that means obvious sources of dairy like milk, cheese, yogurt, etc. AND hidden dairy found in things like bread, baked goods, crackers, usually listed as casein, whey, etc. And unfortunately half of all babies who cannot handle dairy proteins also have trouble with soy, so you may want to consider eliminating both at first.
Here is some info on MSPI, reflux and elimination diets:
https://www.refluxrebels.com/mspi-milk-soy-protein-intolerant/
https://www.refluxrebels.com/eliminating-dairy-and-soy/
https://kellymom.com/health/baby-health/food-sensitivity/
https://www.neocate.com/blog/elimination-diets-and-breastfeeding/
Hope that helps! If you do decide to try an elimination diet I also have a few resources I can share with recipes.