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Don't Know What to Think...So Confused...

LBmommyLBmommy member
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Hi All,
We are in an awful place right now and I would love to know if anyone else has had this happen to them...

I am currently 8 weeks and 3 days pregnant, but it looks like this baby is not going to make it OR that I am carrying around our angel baby and my body isn't noticing...

October 17: CD 1 (first day of period)
CD 9: Positive OPK (super early)
Intercourse days 9, 10, 11, 12, 14
BFP: November 12th (3 weeks 5 days)
BFP: November 13th (3 weeks 6 days - because I loved seeing it turn positive)
BFP: November 21st (5 weeks - because I had a funny feeling, no cramping or anything just a weird feeling, but all was good - turned positive while I peed on the stick) ;)
BFP: November 28th (6 weeks - because I had another test and wanted to just see again for reassurance)

December 9th First Appointment (7 weeks 4 days):
Urine test - Positive (nurses comment " WOW did that turn positive FAST! You are definitely pregnant!"
Ultrasound - Baby only looking to be a healthy 4 "maybe" 5 weeks - doctor said my dates are off, she said she saw a "questionable" heartbeat but that either our baby is just very early yet (4 or 5 weeks at the time) OR has stopped growing.

We explained that it wouldn't be possible to have our dates off because of the early positive tests I've been having - doesn't make sense

Sent for Bloodwork after ultrasound (7 weeks 4 days)
HCG: 114,516
Progesterone: 21.8

Bloodwork (7 weeks 6 days)
HCG: 124,249 (not doubling)

Now, we are waiting for our ultrasound again on Friday when I would be (according to my dates) 8 weeks 6 days. I talked to her on the phone finally yesterday and she said she still just thinks it is an early pregnancy as my levels are going up. I still have ALL my symptoms: sore breasts, so hungry, exhausted, nausea, sensitive to smells, and a growing bump...

I have had zero cramping, spotting or bleeding...

We just don't know what to think. I have already grieved as I am thinking this baby has stopped growing. It has been the longest most awful week of my life.

Has anyone ever had this happen with a positive outcome??

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  • megstervtmegstervt member
    I think it's good to prepare yourself for bad news in whatever way you need to, but as my family says, don't bleed before you're shot.  You hcg will NOT double in the 48-72 hour window once it's that high, so don't panic about that.  See betabase.info for great information about doubling times and beta levels.
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  • clairemwalkerclairemwalker member
    I had a similar experience as you, my early ultrasound only put me at 5w when my OPKs and BFPs put me at 6-6.5w (only had u/s that early to rule out ectopic due to spotting and pain) and i was told the same thing, either early or not growing. Two weeks later scan showed a healthy embryo with a heartbeat! If you arent temping to know o date, it is most likely that you are just a little early. If you use the search, or stalk back a few pages you will see this seems to be a very common worry for women who get early u/s. As long as you arent bleeding i would say that you are most likely fine. Not a doc, but everything sounds like its progressing . .
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  • PrimRoseMamaPrimRoseMama member
    That was hard to follow-- but all you can do is wait. Wishing you the very best.

    Did you use the first response curved handle? From my research the sensitivity of those is incredibly sensitive. So you could very well have a slow growing baby (slow is not stopped).


    "RESULTS: First Response Early Result had an analytical sensitivity of 6.3 mIU/mL, which was estimated to detect greater than 95% of pregnancies on the day of missed period. The sensitivity of Clearblue Easy Earliest Results was 25 mIU/mL, which indicated detection of 80% of pregnancies. The sensitivity of the five other products was 100 mIU/mL or greater, indicating detection of 16% or less of pregnancies. Three of these last products included faulty devices."

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16295647/


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  • BigboobsmcgeeBigboobsmcgee member
    msuzannah said:
    I'm a little confused as to why you are so worried? The ultrasound was really early and not seeing a heartbeat that soon is completely normal as they don't start beating until 5 weeks and some people don't see them until 6 weeks. When it comes to your HCG levels those stop doubling after a certain point. From what I've heard they only double in the 48-72 hour time limit at first. To me it sounds like you are having a normal healthy pregnancy! Especially with no spotting or bleeding! Maybe it was something the doctor said that made you more concerned? Or I'm just totally missing the reason. Being worried about the baby is completely normal and I'm sure all of us can relate to that! Just remember that you are pregnant right now and that as far as you know baby is doing fine. Just try to stay positive until your ultrasound on Friday!
    All of this.
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  • sorarosesorarose member
    Bigboobsmcgee said:
    msuzannah said:
    I'm a little confused as to why you are so worried? The ultrasound was really early and not seeing a heartbeat that soon is completely normal as they don't start beating until 5 weeks and some people don't see them until 6 weeks. When it comes to your HCG levels those stop doubling after a certain point. From what I've heard they only double in the 48-72 hour time limit at first. To me it sounds like you are having a normal healthy pregnancy! Especially with no spotting or bleeding! Maybe it was something the doctor said that made you more concerned? Or I'm just totally missing the reason. Being worried about the baby is completely normal and I'm sure all of us can relate to that! Just remember that you are pregnant right now and that as far as you know baby is doing fine. Just try to stay positive until your ultrasound on Friday!
    All of this.
    She's concerned because she should be around 6-7 weeks (since we don't know exactly when she O'ed), but the doctor said 4 maybe 5 weeks. 

    OP, wishing you the best of luck. Please keep us posted!


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  • LBmommyLBmommy member
    edited December 2015
    I am worried because she measured our baby almost 4 weeks behind...I don't understand how someone wouldn't worry about that...

    And with a questionable heartbeat.

    We had an ultrasound with our daughter at 7 weeks 4 days (same as this baby) and we saw a definite little jelly bean on the screen. This time it was hard to tell what exactly she was seeing as we really didn't see anything.

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  • LBmommyLBmommy member
    Yes, used the curved handle test.
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  • Kristin712Kristin712 member
    You might have ovulated much later than your positive OPK and then also turned an HPT super early, like 7-8 dpo.

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  • purplefan1purplefan1 member
    edited December 2015
    I'm curious about this. They typically don't see anything on even a vaginal u/s until 5-6 weeks except possibly gestational and yolk sac and possible fetal pole. I wonder if they meant 4/5 weeks after ovulation which would put you about 6/7 weeks based on LMP.......

    Don't worry about it yet. I know, crazy hard to imagine NOT worrying about it, but worrying honestly isn't going to do you any good. Think positive thoughts, breathe a lot, and go back for a follow up scan. I know many women have said they went in for an initial scan when they thought they were 7+ weeks a long and saw the start of things but no baby or no heartbeat yet. Then a week later, there is was with a strong heartbeat. Could have ovulated when you thought but then took awhile to implant (implantation can take something like 7-12 days I think I recall) and their measurements could be off (my scan says +/- 4 days).

    Please update us on how it goes. I'm so sorry you are going through this stress but I am so hopeful for you that a happy and healthy growing baby is in you right now.

    *Edited to fix errors
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  • goldie987goldie987 member
    What @June2016BabyW said. They can't pick up a heartbeat until 6 weeks, so saying 4 weeks with a maybe heartbeat doesn't make sense. What is concerning is that your hCG are so high and they couldnt see much. You should be able to see something on an ultrasound once hCG hits 1000-2000. You're in the hundred thousands so something isn't adding up.

    If your doctor isn't concerned then I wouldn't be concerned. You've given them the same information you gave us, they are trained medical professionals. At this point there isn't anything that you can do, your hCG is increasing and your progesterone is good. Just try to relax and wait it out (easier said than done, I know).
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  • LBmommyLBmommy member

    This waiting game is awful.

    My belly popped again today too which isn't helping. Right now it's almost way easier to think the worst than to go in for another ultrasound with my hopes up :/
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  • cmerriburycmerribury member
    I think it's fine to prepare for the worst, but to be honest, I think you're OK. I see things like this a lot (people getting positive OPKs early, and then having docs date them earlier than they think). I can't tell from your OP about what CD you fist tested, but I got a positive at 9 DPO, so depending on the HCG and the date of implantation, and a million other things, you could have ovulated later than you thought. 

    When I first went in there was no heartbeat. I thought I was 7 weeks. I measured 5. I went back a week later and there was a STRONG heartbeat. Everything has been fine since then. Just hang in there and try to stay positive. 
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  • JMarie1291JMarie1291 member
    I had a similar experience. Prepare for the worst pray for the best. Prior to this pregnancy I had a fetus stop growing at 10-12 weeks but had a slow heart beat till 17 weeks. At 17 weeks there was no more heart beat and I had a d&c. Its horrible to go through if it does happen to you, but it happens to so many women. My hcg levels were low and they had me on progesterone which prolonged my m/c. I hope the best for you and good luck just know if it doesn't turn out okay you are not alone!
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  • candicek15candicek15 member
    I think PPs have given you some great info, but I'm in the "hope for the best, prepare for the worst" camp. Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do! I've been there and know the waiting game is horrible, but just remember it's all out of your hands! Hoping for the best outcome for you!
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  • brittanyns5brittanyns5 member
    This is the exact thing that is happening to me right now. I go back to the OBGYN Tuesday and hoping the heartbeat picks up better. The doctor told me the same thing. I have cried almost every night,but my fiancé is continuing to reassure me everything is fine and all I can do is wait and pray. I had 2 doctors tell me that it is normal because this early you can't tell much. That many things can't be explained in the first couple of weeks. I will be thinking about you in my prayers and hope everything is fine with your little one :) please keep us updated!
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  • Aug2016BBNYAug2016BBNY member
    @LBmommy  and @brittanyns5 I am going through the same thing! I haven't stopped crying since Sat (not sure if it is just the hormones).  I went on Sat for my first u/s. according to my LMP, I should've been 6w4d, but I only measured 5w5d (vag u/s). The dr said they saw "the beginning of a pulse" but no heartbeat and that I either ovulated a week later or it is not growing. I had blood tests this morning to check Hcg levels, another u/s scheduled for tomorrow (not sure how different it will be between Sat and Tues but hoping/praying for some growth/a heartbeat). When I asked the dr if this was common she said yes, but not before acting somewhat concerned/confused (no bedside manner)- really made me concerned. I know the u/s tech can't give any diagnosis but she didn't seem very concerned. Said it was too early and everything else looked ok.

    Praying for everyone going through all this uneasiness/uncertainty right now. It is so hard to function at work when all we can think about is if our little ones are ok- and worrying that all the worrying is not good for the baby either!
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  • brittanyns5brittanyns5 member
    @Aug2016BBNY see that was the opposite for me my doctor didn't seemed worried but the US tech seemed confused and freaked out. And yes it is stressing and a bunch of crying but I keep thinking that if I stay positive the baby will somehow grab onto those emotions and grow like crazy lol I just hope all is okay.
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  • BostonBaby1BostonBaby1 member
    Very sorry that you're going through this period of uncertainty. I wonder if the doctor did mean 4 to 5 weeks after you ovulated? If that were the case then your numbers and dates make more sense. In any case, definitely wishing the best for you and hoping that everything turns out well.
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