Infertility

Cancelled transfer

Just found out they cancelled my transfer for today. None of my 10 embryos were ready. I have 2 compact, 2 early blastocyst, and 6 cellular. Does anyone know what that means???

Also, anyone have success stories with 6 day FET? If anyone of the embryos continue to grow tonight, then we'd freeze all tomorrow and do our FET in mid December.

Any success stories or information in greatly appreciated!!

Re: Cancelled transfer

  • Hey @braz7911 - basically this is how expanded/developed the embryos are. In my head I was thinking you transfer at blast stage but there's also grading involved usually, so your embryologists would know best why your transfer didn't go ahead. Hopefully you can ask and get some answers. That really sucks though as I'm sure you were excited to do the transfer. Sorry you had a curveball thrown at you like that. 

    from Sher's Blog

    1. Most embryos that are allowed to develop to blastocyst reach their maximum potential by day 5 post-fertilization. Some take 6 days (and incidentally, there is no indication that these later developing blastocysts necessarily have poorer implantation potential).
    No success stories to share as I've never been pregnant myself, but lots of ladies are very successful with frozen transfers. It could have been a timing/receptivity concern too... meaning your uterus was ready but the embryos weren't, so they want to do a separate cycle to sync them up... just a guess/thought to throw out there...

    I've also posted a pic to show you the stages. 
    Keep us posted and best of luck to you! :)
    ---
    Started TTC April 2011
    Me: 32, DH: 32
    Diagnosis: Endometriosis

    • 2012 - 3 Rounds clomid - all BFN
    • 2013 - 1 Fresh IVF with 2 day 3 embryos - BFN
    • 2014 - 1 Frozen IVF with 2 day 5 embryos - BFN
    • Took a long break, continuing trying naturally
    • Feb 2016 - Biopsy = Endo, DH sperm improved from 1% to 6% morphology
    • March 2016 - Fresh IVF cycle with acupuncture & intralipids: 20 eggs retrieved (17 mature), 7 ICSI'd fertilized, 9 naturally fertilized. 16 total embryos!
    • April 8th - 2 embryos (1ICSI and 1 Natural) transferred. (7 blastocysts frozen), April 18th - Beta = BFN
    • Sept 23rd - Lupron Depot Injection for Endo control
    • Nov 15th 2016 - Started daily Lupron Injections for upcoming FET
    • Nov 22 - Baseline US/BW - Intralipid Infusion - Start Meds for FET with immune protocol
    • Dec 16th FET transfer of 3 embryos (1 - AA, 2 - BB)
    • TW below
    • Dec 22nd - first ever bfp (very faint lines FRER & cheapie)
    • Dec 27th Beta = 192, Dec 29th Beta = 379
    • EDD - Sept 5th 2017

    - - -
    I'm a YouTube vlogger who talks about Infertility, IVF and Endometriosis. Check it out here!
    Follow along at http://liv4today.blog
    Instagram @liv4todayvlog 


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  • @braz7911 I had posted something similar last month with similar issues.  My transfer got cancelled completely!! it was rough and they really didnt have any answers as to why it happened! it was really really tough and last minute my dh and I decided to do another cycle. Did they do icsi right away or let the sperm and egg meet naturally? they had no reason to believe the eggs would not be fertilized naturally so they did icsi late and they think that because the eggs were fertilized late thats why they didnt survive 
    Me 29 Dh 30
    ttc since fall 2012

    started fertility aid March 2015
    2 failed iui
    ivf September 2015- no transfer due to no fertilization 
    Ivf November 2015- bfn
    ivf fet March 2016- BFP!!!! <3


  • @oxinfree your img isn't correct for the stages. Human embryo development happens in about half that time (hatching by day 6). I think that chart is for cow embryos.
  • @oxinfree - thank you so much for al the information you provided! I'm learning that day 6 freezing is pretty common and can still result in a healthy pregnancy and baby. You are right in that they were concerned about my body being ready for a blast but the embryos not being at that stage yet. My accupunturist (who specializes) in fertility said that sometimes they will even do a 7 day freeze. Not sure if they'll let that happen or not but I might push for it. Thank you again for your response and support. I will keep you posted!

    @kindrex05 - thanks for your response and support, too. And so sorry for your cancelled transfer. It really is so hard to get so far and then with so little warning be cancelled. I believe they did isci right off the bat. I still have a chance that 4 of them might have pulled through over the last 24 hrs - I'll find out before noon today. When you had your transfer canceled did any make it? Were you given any update on how your embryos were doing since fertilization?

    Vent - I'm mostly frustrated that they gave us no indication that this was a possibility. No communication at all about how they were doing each day and they basically said they wouldn't ever consider a 3 day transfer. I get that 5dts are better than 3dt but I just have to wonder if sometimes they need to look into doing them just to give us a chance. I guess what I'm saying is we have 0 chance of a bfp if we don't transfer any, but we could at least have a chance if they would just transfer maybe not the best one or maybe not at the best time. Sorry - end rant.

    Thanks again for your support girls!
  • @HBamama2B - haha .. didn't even look at the dates it stated. I was just looking at the naming but you are absolutely 100% correct. A hatching blast is common at day5/6 so dates are totally asquew. It was one of few images that had the names of all the stages rather than just three or grading though. Oh well. Ignore! :) Thanks.
    ---
    Started TTC April 2011
    Me: 32, DH: 32
    Diagnosis: Endometriosis

    • 2012 - 3 Rounds clomid - all BFN
    • 2013 - 1 Fresh IVF with 2 day 3 embryos - BFN
    • 2014 - 1 Frozen IVF with 2 day 5 embryos - BFN
    • Took a long break, continuing trying naturally
    • Feb 2016 - Biopsy = Endo, DH sperm improved from 1% to 6% morphology
    • March 2016 - Fresh IVF cycle with acupuncture & intralipids: 20 eggs retrieved (17 mature), 7 ICSI'd fertilized, 9 naturally fertilized. 16 total embryos!
    • April 8th - 2 embryos (1ICSI and 1 Natural) transferred. (7 blastocysts frozen), April 18th - Beta = BFN
    • Sept 23rd - Lupron Depot Injection for Endo control
    • Nov 15th 2016 - Started daily Lupron Injections for upcoming FET
    • Nov 22 - Baseline US/BW - Intralipid Infusion - Start Meds for FET with immune protocol
    • Dec 16th FET transfer of 3 embryos (1 - AA, 2 - BB)
    • TW below
    • Dec 22nd - first ever bfp (very faint lines FRER & cheapie)
    • Dec 27th Beta = 192, Dec 29th Beta = 379
    • EDD - Sept 5th 2017

    - - -
    I'm a YouTube vlogger who talks about Infertility, IVF and Endometriosis. Check it out here!
    Follow along at http://liv4today.blog
    Instagram @liv4todayvlog 


  • @oxinfree and @HBamama2B - Thanks for the laugh - it was needed. It totally went over my head, too. 
  • @braz7911 Well I got the call Sunday that my transfer would be Tuesday and then on monday I waited and waited and did not get any information about what time to go in.  I called the dr and out of my 6 embryos none of them were holding strong and he told me he would call me first thing Wednesday morning to give them an extra day and basically tell me to come in or not.  He called me early wednesday and told me none made it.  They were basically all deteriorating after day 3 
    Me 29 Dh 30
    ttc since fall 2012

    started fertility aid March 2015
    2 failed iui
    ivf September 2015- no transfer due to no fertilization 
    Ivf November 2015- bfn
    ivf fet March 2016- BFP!!!! <3


  • @kindrex05 I'm so sorry you are going through this and I can't even imagine how you might be feeling right now. What is your RE saying about why this happened? Anything? 



    *** Pregnancy & Miscarriage Mentioned***
    ME: 34/DH: 33
    TTC (On & Off) Since 2008
    Diagnosed DOR August 2013 
    2009-2013 6 Clomid Rounds which resulted in 3 Cysts/Had to take some time off from TTC
    10/2014 ~ BFP (Natural Pregnancy) after 3 months Acupuncture/Miscarriage at 10 wks
    7/2015 ~ Med Protocol#1: Failed Cycle/Only 1 Egg/Unable to convert to IUI because thin uterus lining
    08/2015 ~ Med Protocol #2: Started stims 09/13
    ER 10/9 with 6 Eggs Retrieved/3 SNOWFLAKES!!

    10/22/15 ~ AF Showed up, waiting for Fibroid removal.
    10/28/15 ~ Saline Ultrasound - Fibroids were gone. FET scheduled for December 3rd!
    12/08/15 ~ FET of one hatching Embaby

    12/21/15 ~ 13dp5dfet Beta 755! I'M PREGNANT!!!/ 
    12/23/15 ~15dp5dfet Beta 1539!

    01/05/16 ~ 1st Ultrasound - 2 little beans and 2 Heartbeats (120 & 125 bpm)


    My Fur Baby: Diva Celeste McClendon






  • Thanks so much for all your support ladies.

    Update! I have 4 frozen blastocysts!! Two are graded at 4AA, one graded at 4AB and one graded at 3BC. We are soooo humbled by this whole experience and cannot be happier!!! Bring on December for a FET!!!!! Thank you so much for all your prayers and positive thoughts and words!!!
  • Good luck to you in December @braz7911 - we'll be watching for an update

    @kindrex05 - wow... just wow. I'm so sorry. That must have been incredibly emotional for you. And painful. I'm so sorry you've had to go through that. To go through all that work and be told you have nothing is like a dagger, and I wish it weren't the case for you. Big hugs to you. Keep us posted on what the doc says at your follow up. 
    ---
    Started TTC April 2011
    Me: 32, DH: 32
    Diagnosis: Endometriosis

    • 2012 - 3 Rounds clomid - all BFN
    • 2013 - 1 Fresh IVF with 2 day 3 embryos - BFN
    • 2014 - 1 Frozen IVF with 2 day 5 embryos - BFN
    • Took a long break, continuing trying naturally
    • Feb 2016 - Biopsy = Endo, DH sperm improved from 1% to 6% morphology
    • March 2016 - Fresh IVF cycle with acupuncture & intralipids: 20 eggs retrieved (17 mature), 7 ICSI'd fertilized, 9 naturally fertilized. 16 total embryos!
    • April 8th - 2 embryos (1ICSI and 1 Natural) transferred. (7 blastocysts frozen), April 18th - Beta = BFN
    • Sept 23rd - Lupron Depot Injection for Endo control
    • Nov 15th 2016 - Started daily Lupron Injections for upcoming FET
    • Nov 22 - Baseline US/BW - Intralipid Infusion - Start Meds for FET with immune protocol
    • Dec 16th FET transfer of 3 embryos (1 - AA, 2 - BB)
    • TW below
    • Dec 22nd - first ever bfp (very faint lines FRER & cheapie)
    • Dec 27th Beta = 192, Dec 29th Beta = 379
    • EDD - Sept 5th 2017

    - - -
    I'm a YouTube vlogger who talks about Infertility, IVF and Endometriosis. Check it out here!
    Follow along at http://liv4today.blog
    Instagram @liv4todayvlog 


  • @braz7911 Good news and congrats on your 4 snowflakes! Looks like we will be Dec FET buddies. 



    *** Pregnancy & Miscarriage Mentioned***
    ME: 34/DH: 33
    TTC (On & Off) Since 2008
    Diagnosed DOR August 2013 
    2009-2013 6 Clomid Rounds which resulted in 3 Cysts/Had to take some time off from TTC
    10/2014 ~ BFP (Natural Pregnancy) after 3 months Acupuncture/Miscarriage at 10 wks
    7/2015 ~ Med Protocol#1: Failed Cycle/Only 1 Egg/Unable to convert to IUI because thin uterus lining
    08/2015 ~ Med Protocol #2: Started stims 09/13
    ER 10/9 with 6 Eggs Retrieved/3 SNOWFLAKES!!

    10/22/15 ~ AF Showed up, waiting for Fibroid removal.
    10/28/15 ~ Saline Ultrasound - Fibroids were gone. FET scheduled for December 3rd!
    12/08/15 ~ FET of one hatching Embaby

    12/21/15 ~ 13dp5dfet Beta 755! I'M PREGNANT!!!/ 
    12/23/15 ~15dp5dfet Beta 1539!

    01/05/16 ~ 1st Ultrasound - 2 little beans and 2 Heartbeats (120 & 125 bpm)


    My Fur Baby: Diva Celeste McClendon






  • @kindrex05 - I second what @oxinfree said. I had a taste of your heartache yesterday. . I'm happy for you though that you are moving on a prepping for your next cycle. Many, many prayers and positive thought are heading your way!!
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