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Breastfeeding thoughts.....

So I got a breast pump I decided on ordering the medela back pack one. But I'm being told all these different things about breastfeeding and its making me ANNOYED! My mom breastfeed my 3 sisters amd I till we were 18 months never pumped....she's against pumps but I want my husband to have bonding time feeding the baby so i want to pump even though im not going to go back to work I still want to pump. I know the first 4-6 weeks you shouldn't pump at all unless your over producing milk.... So then the baby has time to latch on and get use to the nipple.... I have a breastfeeding plan already and my friends think im crazy and try to tell me that it's not acceptable anymore and ill just give up like they did since you can't do it in public. I think i don't care ill breastfeed my baby when and where ever i want.... What are your thoughts on breastfeeding in public ....and do you have a plan already to make it a success?

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  • I believe in breastfeeding whenever and wherever you need to. That said I personally use a cover because that's what I'm comfortable with. I don't really have a plan per se, but I have already nursed two children for 18 month each so I basically know what I'm doing. I would say the one thing that helped me get through breastfeeding the most was simply believing that it could be done no matter how hard it was in that moment. There will definitely be trials and times that you wonder about quitting but I always just decided to push through and every issue always resolved within a matter of days or weeks. I recommend the book the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding for specific issues.
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  • There is nothing offensive about breastfeeding, and you shouldn't be afraid to do it in public.
    I would practice modesty, such as using a cover, etc, but if your friends think you're crazy that's another issue.
    There is nothing crazy about feeding your hungry child. If they don't like it, they can step away. Baby comes first, not insensitive friends.
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  • wow, where do you live that its unacceptable? around here its not a problem. and pumping is fine from day one. 
  • wow, where do you live that its unacceptable? around here its not a problem. and pumping is fine from day one. 

    Actually most lactation consultants will recommend not pumping for 4-6 weeks, until breastfeeding is established (barring any medical issues, of course).
  • satuttle1014satuttle1014 member
    edited October 2015
    Breastfeeding to me is natural and doesn't bother me if I see someone breastfeeding in public. I personally wouldn't just display my breasts to everyone but maybe use a cover. I plan on breastfeeding and pumping but if I can't warm up the bottle I will breastfeed. If I am in public, I will have a cover so nobody can see me but can clearly see what I'm doing. 

    I agree with some other ladies, you do what works for you and your baby, and if your friends are uncomfortable with you breastfeeding in public then they can step away. Every person is different on how they want to raise their children, you do what you want. Trial and error will happen and see what works for you. 
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  • I am not comfortable doing it in public so I won't. I prefer to find a quiet secluded place where I can be comfortable. Your friends and mom are unsupportive jerks. Do what you want to do. Just because they didn't do it doesn't mean you shouldn't.
  • It completely boils down to doing whatever you are comfortable with and whatever works for you and your baby. Due to several factors, BFing was not a sole option for us with our first. It didn't work and formula was our savior, everyone was happier once we made the switch. That said, when I did BF it was in public and I used a cover because that is what I personally felt good about. 

    If your baby is hungry, you feed them, it doesn't matter how or where. It sounds like your mom and friends are projecting on you, your mom being against pumping and your friends putting them stopping BFing on you. None of them are right in doing that and you need to make them aware of that. What you and your family do is of your concern, not theirs, and if you are doing something different than them that is perfectly fine. No kid is the same and no one's experience with BFing, pumping, formula, etc are ever the same either. Just worry about doing what works for you!
  • As long as you are comfortable, there is nothing wrong about BFing in public. Do what works for you and your family.
    You can pump from the start if you want to, but you may need to hold of bottle feeding for a while to avoid nipple confusion. You can freeze what you pump and use it at a later date (for your DH or a baby sitter maybe?)
    I would however recommend you to focus on making breast feeding work in the begining. It can be really challenging to get the hang of it for both you and baby, so if you want to breast feed you should focus on that. Bonding time for DH can come later, once BF is established.
  • I will do what works for me... I didn't make this post to have my friends or mom bashed. I wanted to know if anyone else has a breastfeeding plan and what others thought about breastfeeding in public.... Obviously cover up! And since my friends didn't get to be stay home moms like I am and have demanding jobs breastfeeding wasn't suitable for them its not that there not supportive of me breastfeeding they have no positive in put on the subject. And my moms not a jerk she just never had to use a pump on all 4 children so she doesn't understand the whole pumping thing....its been over 20 some years since she had a baby. She and my friends will support me at the end of the day.... but I dont see why their support matters I have my husband and thats all the support I need on making a choice for our son. I was asking others what their BF plan is and thoughts of doing it in public not to tell me to get new friends and their jerks ....
  • Before having a baby, I thought it was borderline nuts to openly breastfeed in front of anyone but my husband.

     

    Within 24 hours, it was more of an "if you're in my house and you don't want to see my boobs, it's on you to go to another room" situation.  I honestly give no shits who sees me breastfeed at this point.  I have only had a situation where I needed to breastfeed in public once, at a football game, and I just did it.  I did cover LO's head because it was drizzling and I didn't want her to be getting rained on while she was eating.  If it wasn't raining I probably wouldn't have bothered with the cover.  And my boobs were DD pre-pregnancy, so it's not like LO's head would completely hide them.  Still, I do not care.

     

    I did go back to work, so I needed to pump, but honestly I pumped while on leave not because I wanted to give bottles but because LO slept reasonably long stretches at night fairly early, so I'd wake up in searing pain and had to take the edge off.  It was very helpful because my nipples hurt so much that I gave LO two bottles at 10 days PP to give my boobs a break (I did pump at those times, but the pump was completely painless in comparison to actually nursing).  After two weeks when nursing was painless I only pumped when necessary due to engorgement.  I have a slight oversupply, so that's probably why it was necessary for me.  99% of the time, it was overnight.

     

    At the football game I mentioned above, I did not bring my pump...and LO was so distracted by everything going on around her, she didn't really want to eat for several hours.  I was in a lot of pain, and really wished I had also purchased a manual pump that I could have had in the diaper bag just in case.  I didn't bring my pump along because I figured I'd be with her all day...I failed to recognize that I could still need it.

     

    Make the plan you are comfortable with, but please don't get to attached to it.  SO MANY WOMEN have trouble breastfeeding, and have to either exclusively pump and bottle feed, or supplement with formula because of it.  Just because your mom was successful doesn't mean you will be.  So be kind to yourself, whatever happens.  Women who are completely inflexible about needing to breastfeed going into motherhood that then wind up unable to do so can easily spiral into PPD.  The only thing that is important is that your baby is fed...from whatever source is necessary.

     

    Also, though you don't plan to pump much, I'd suggest registering for some extra Medela collection bottles, just to have around for when you do pump.  My insurance covered I think 6 bottles that came with my pump, but the less you have to clean bottles the better, especially as a brand new mom.

  • jmjarling said:
    So I got a breast pump I decided on ordering the medela back pack one. But I'm being told all these different things about breastfeeding and its making me ANNOYED! My mom breastfeed my 3 sisters amd I till we were 18 months never pumped....she's against pumps but I want my husband to have bonding time feeding the baby so i want to pump even though im not going to go back to work I still want to pump. I know the first 4-6 weeks you shouldn't pump at all unless your over producing milk.... So then the baby has time to latch on and get use to the nipple.... I have a breastfeeding plan already and my friends think im crazy and try to tell me that it's not acceptable anymore and ill just give up like they did since you can't do it in public. I think i don't care ill breastfeed my baby when and where ever i want.... What are your thoughts on breastfeeding in public ....and do you have a plan already to make it a success?

    I NIP and I don't care. My kid screamed bloody murder with covers and wouldn't eat.

    Your husband can bond with the baby just as well as you can-- bonding does not have to mean feeding. Bonding can mean cuddling, singing, reading books and changing diapers. So, pumping to bottle feed may be a viable solution if you need to take a shower or poop. However, you still have to pump while the bottle feeding is going on to not skip the stimulation of a feeding for your breasts. So, its not really more effective solution for bonding.

    Pumping isn't the devil but I didn't care for it. I preferred baby at the breast if I could. Some ladies HAVE to exclusively pump for a variety of reasons. So, being categorically against pumping doesn't make sense. Its unreasonable to expect everyone to pump and its a tiny bit unreasonable to want to pump straight off the bat just because.

    Breastfeeding is definitely "acceptable" and you aren't doomed. It is hard work for many in the beginning, but not impossible. You'll have to see when you get there.


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  • Also, its offensive to say "obviously you cover up". No no no. Its not obvious and covering does not work for every mother or every baby. I found nursing with a cover just so someone doesn't see some skin (which you see more of in a Victoria's secret catalogue) to be a giant pain in the butt. My kid hated it, it was awkward and it made seeing what I was doing a difficult task. I ditched the cover and nursing in public (NIP) became so much easier. I am still nursing my 2 year old (I can hear the collective pearl clutching lol) and I still NIP without a care in the world.

    I was breastfeeding with a cover at the food court in Target once. An older male employee can up to me and thanked me for covering up since so many people don't and he thinks that it is inappropriate. I really didn't know what to say - I was shocked. I think I muttered something about how using a cover is a matter of personal preference. I was also giving him that bitchy "leave me alone" look. It's Tuesday. That guy was a twatwaffle.

    I did prefer a cover. Partly for modesty, but it also really helped keep LO from getting overly distracted.

    Also, OP - invest in a good breastfeeding pillow. They are awesome. I took mine everywhere when I was breastfeeding LO - even to restaurants.



  • I really don't see the issue with BF in public. Personally I prefer not to fully expose my breasts, but I don't care if other people have their breasts all hanging out. I never use a cover, but I wear tops that I can easily pull up from the bottom,once baby is latched then I'm as covered as I feel the need to be.

    Having said that, baby #3 is having some issues latching at the moment,so there is a lot of breast exposure while I re-latch him until he gets it right, so I wouldn't be thrilled in all situations to be so exposed, but that's my own sense of modesty and I know that he's only 3 weeks old and that we'll get it sorted eventually.

    There are other things you can do in public to feel more comfortable as well, like sitting with your back to where most of the people are, and wearing drapey cardigans, or breastfeeding singlets under your top so that your stomach is covered, or you can pull your cardigan around you.

    Whether to pump or not is something to discuss with a LC if the need arises. Because of latching issues I had to pump to keep my supply up. Now that my supply is good and strong, baby is much happier to latch and gets less frustrated at the breast.

    BF can be really hard, I cannot express how important it is to get the latch right, but you're certainly not doomed, sometimes you just have to work at it.
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  • Jules08Jules08 member
    edited October 2015

    When you say: "since you can't do it in public" I am not sure if you think that you can't or if your friends think you can't.  Either way: https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/breastfeeding-state-laws.aspx

    I breastfed my son for 13 months and plan to breastfeed this one.  Whenever, wherever.  Using a cover is entirely up to mom and baby.  In response to those who describe it as whipping out a boob in public - so what if that were the case?  Realistically, nursing is typically quite discrete even without a cover; I'd bet that you have walked past a nursing baby and didn't even realize what was going on, and just assumed it was mom and baby cuddling.

    As far as the timeline for introducing a pump/ bottle, well, that's again, entirely up to mom and baby.  I had to introduce a bottle to DS at 3 days.  We were extremely successful at breastfeeding from the first attempt through the next few days; however, then he went on a nursing strike and the bottle was the only way to get him to eat.  The next day we went right back to breastfeeding with no issues.  One tip my DR gave me was to use a bottle that mimicked the size and shape of your breast and nipple.

  • I guess saying "obviously I'd cover up" was taken the wrong way.... Meaning I'm not going to be sitting at a resteraunt eating dinner and have my nipple hang out for everyone to see... But use the bras and shirts they make to breastfeed in and try the utter covers to help cover what I can. Its not like I'm ashamed to whip out my boob and feed my baby it is my first child so im sure it will take a little getting use to.
  • jmjarling said:
    I guess saying "obviously I'd cover up" was taken the wrong way.... Meaning I'm not going to be sitting at a resteraunt eating dinner and have my nipple hang out for everyone to see... But use the bras and shirts they make to breastfeed in and try the utter covers to help cover what I can. Its not like I'm ashamed to whip out my boob and feed my baby it is my first child so im sure it will take a little getting use to.

    I think once you actually breastfeed, you'll have a better feel for "exposure."  If YOU feel more comfortable with a cover (and baby can stand it), then do that - so long as you acknowledge that covers are not a requirement and that for some they are impossible to use. 

    I think you'll find that you won't just have a nipple hanging out for everyone to see.  You move baby into position and as you bring baby to the breast, you are also uncovering the breast.  Baby pretty much covers up everything that anyone else *might* see.  (This is coming from a girl with DD's who breastfed and never really felt exposed.)

  • I hust wanted to add that neither of my children would take a bottle! Ever! I tried and tried, went through 20 different bottles, different people and places at different times, and they NEVER took that bottle! So even though you intend to pump for the hubs, be ready that it wont happen... And pumping to throw away milk is a real downer!!!

    My suggestion, is just feel out what works, after babybis here you may change your mind, need to pump, not need to, baby may never take a bottle or do it like a pro, but you wint know till after baby is here...

    Good luck...

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  • jmjarling said:
    I guess saying "obviously I'd cover up" was taken the wrong way.... Meaning I'm not going to be sitting at a resteraunt eating dinner and have my nipple hang out for everyone to see... But use the bras and shirts they make to breastfeed in and try the utter covers to help cover what I can. Its not like I'm ashamed to whip out my boob and feed my baby it is my first child so im sure it will take a little getting use to.
    I know you haven't breastfed. That's not how it works.


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  • I've actually thought a lot about breastfeeding this time around. I had a bit of a rough time with my first child and nursing. He's going to be 18 by the time the baby I'm expecting now is born.

    I didn't have a problem with public feedings last time and I quite frankly do not care what anyone thinks about it this time. The fact that there are people who are offended by women feeding their babies in public needs to change. In my opinion being offended by breastfeeding is sexualizing something that is not sexual. No woman should ever be shamed for feeding her baby in the most natural way.

    As for pumping, I believe I would have lasted a lot longer breastfeeding had I made more use of my pump. You see the women in my family have very productive breasts which is great if you know how to manage them. I didn't understand how to manage my letdown. I had a very forceful letdown that would start to spray milk into my child's mouth and cause him to chocke. He'd get upset and wouldn't take my breast but he would still be hungry. I would get frustrated and give up trying to offer my breast.

    Looking back (had I thought of it then) I should have pumped a little bit before trying to latch so that I could have relieved to pressure in my letdown. He wouldn't have chocked on my milk and neither of us would have gotten frustrated.

    It's also very freeing to be able to share the responsibility for feeding your baby. It's nice to be able to give your partner a bottle while you get a shower or a nap or make dinner. It's nice to be able to go to an appointment. It's nice to be able to watch your partner spend a little one on one with your baby.

    You've got to decide what's best for you and your family. If you feel that giving your partner the opportunity to bond this way is important then that's what you should do.

    Consider what friends and family have to say and decide for yourself if what they have to say resonates with you.
  • Where I live everyone breastfeeds in public. I am in Seattle though so I guess it's pretty liberal. Definitely get a pump, you will want to sometimes leave the baby with other people and if you intend to breastfeed this is the only way you can do both. The other reason you may need a pump is that my second child would not for the life of him nurse under a cover. He would bat at it and pull it until it was gone. Personally, I didn't feel ok about hanging my boob out uncovered, so I did pump a little more with him so I could give him a bottle in public. However, I didn't really have that hard of a time finding a secluded area to feed him most of the time. If we were at a friend's house I would just ask to go to a bedroom, at the park I would do it in the car parked in a secluded spot or even sit in the backseat with the tinted windows, and at the mall they have mother's nursing rooms. Our friends all breastfed so our husbands are used to it and it was not uncommon for someone to just throw on a cover and nurse on the couch while we were all hanging out. Do what you feel is right. Know that it will be a challenge at times, but it is by no means impossible and it is awesome for your baby. Make your own choices and listen you your own instincts. Find support from other mothers who have done it. You can do it!
  • I am not comfortable doing it in public so I won't. I prefer to find a quiet secluded place where I can be comfortable. Your friends and mom are unsupportive jerks. Do what you want to do. Just because they didn't do it doesn't mean you shouldn't.
    Kinda harsh to call someones mom a jerk...

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  • mamacastromamacastro member
    edited October 2015
    Only speaking for myself here. When I had DS last year by CS I didn't get to start BF right away due to complications with my CS for myself and DS so I didn't get a chance to start until he was in the room a day later. I tried BF naturally right away after that but it was really slow going so the lactation nurse came in and actually had me learn how to pump right then and even recommended to keep doing it right away and it did actually make a difference and in our case my milk came faster, but again that was my personal case so you have to do with what works for you, you may not even need to pump right away its really hard to tell until you're in the situation at the moment, good luck dear and remember women have been doing this for centuries, your body will take over
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    I am not comfortable doing it in public so I won't. I prefer to find a quiet secluded place where I can be comfortable. Your friends and mom are unsupportive jerks. Do what you want to do. Just because they didn't do it doesn't mean you shouldn't.

    Kinda harsh to call someones mom a jerk...


    It's also harsh to tell someone they shouldn't nurse their baby and tell them that they will give up. Why not be encouraging of each other and try to help them do what they strive to do instead of setting them up for failure?
  • Yeah but everyone has different views and that was their view on it..... Only 2 of my really good friends have kids yet. We travel for work and they didn't see how that will work out with breastfeeding.... But im not going back to work so it doesn't matter at the end of the day
  • Traveling for work shouldn't have any effect on pumping and most work places now have gotten pump friendly, they have to provide a place to pump. Bottom line do what you want and don't let anyone else's negativity influence you. What may not work for someone else might work for you
  • My only "plan" for breastfeeding was to feed my baby as needed. I never worried about a schedule or how long he was nursing. I didn't pump often. My son is almost 2 and nurses at least four times a day. He was exclusively breastfed until I introduced solids at six months, and didn't have an alternative to breastmilk until six months.

    I don't cover when nursing in public, and I don't use special breastfeeding clothes (I think they are a waste of money). I normally wear a tank top or cami under my shirt; bottom shirt goes down, top shirt goes up. On occasion, I wear a scarf as well. I've never received a negative comment in public.

    If you feel more comfortable with a cover or going in a different room, go ahead and do it. But don't let anyone bully you into doing something other than what you feel comfortable with doing. Pumping if you want dad to give bottles, cover if you want. (Pumping too soon can cause oversupply, clogged ducts, and mastitis. So don't go overboard. You don't need to pump 2 ounces at a time for an occasional bottle!)

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  • Just like a birth plan, its fine to make a plan, but make it flexible. Both birth and breastfeeding have so many moving parts that it's not likely everything will go according to plan. 

    So its fine to hear that you shouldn't give a bottle for the first 4-6 weeks, but you may REALLY need a break from baby in those first 4-6 weeks. A break that takes you away from baby for a bit longer than 2 hours. So maybe you have a backup for that?

    Or maybe you end up like me and a week in have a ton of nipple pain and horribly cracked and bleeding nipples, and breastfeeding is so excruciating that you wake your DH up in the middle of the night crying and saying you can't do it anymore. And honestly, I didn't like breastfeeding. I didn't like being the only one that could provide for my child in that way. I wanted other people to help me feed my child, and give me a break, and allow me to sleep more than 2 hour stretches. So I pumped instead. And that was SUCH a relief. Baby still got the benefits of breast milk, and I was SOOOO much happier. And DH was happier too since he got to bond over bottles. So was grandma, and nana - sure, there are other ways everyone can bond with baby, but breastfeeding wasn't helping me bond with my child. It was just making me resent him. And this is NOT an uncommon feeling.

    My point being, what everyone tells you to do may not end up being whats best for you. So plans are all fine and good, but be willing to adjust on the fly. 

    As for nursing in public, I say anyone who wants to, go get it!
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  • You can pump from the start and still have a good breastfeeding relationship with your baby. I'm proof. You just need to breastfeed 15 mins/side first and then pump once baby is full. It's a great way to increase your milk supply since milk is supply and demand and it creates additional demand.
    This was not my idea. The nurses at the hospital introduced it to me as a great way to build my milk supply. I also had a preemie, so he got the pumped milk after his breast feeding. Sometimes he got formula on top of all of that (lost some weight in the beginning). I gradually got rid of the formula supplementation and then gradually got rid of the pumped milk supplementation. I still pumped after feedings for a long time when it was convenient for me to do it.
  • Oh and I'm all for breastfeeding in public. Your baby should be able to eat when he or she is hungry and you shouldn't have to limit your activities to in between feedings because they eat ALL THE TIME. Plus, it's natural and beautiful :)
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