3rd Trimester

Whooping Cough Shot for Entire Family?

Our Dr. recommended that we make sure anyone and everyone who will be around the baby (before he gets his shot at 2 months) gets the whooping cough shot.  My family will do this no problem!  However...my husband's family is a different story, especially his grandparents.  I would hate to force someone to do something they don't believe in (even if it's more of just being stubborn than a true reason), however I don't want my little baby to get sick.  Now that I am in my 3rd trimester...it's time to start requesting this from the family.   Does anyone have any advice on how to approach a potentially touchy subject like this? 
Thanks!

Re: Whooping Cough Shot for Entire Family?

  • It's really only for immediate family who will be around the baby 24/7. I'm the only one who got the shot, my dr didn't recommended anyone else, but I've heard of this. Just make sure they have no symptoms, have clean hands, and no kissing on the mouth.
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  • If you get the vaccination whilst pregnant, then you will pass on the immunity to the baby. The vaccine also last for 10 years in adults, so they don't need to get it again if the have had it within that period of time. So the most important person to get the shot is you between 28 and 32 weeks.

    Also the US is one of the very few countries that offers the shot to adults. The UK and Australia only offer it to the expectant mother and to children as part of their immunisation plan.

  • ashleywuliashleywuli member
    edited October 2015
    I made everyone get the shot with my first pregnancy. Literally anyone who would be around baby more than a quick 1 hour or so visit. My in laws, mother, brothers sisters, house keeper, babysitters, husband, EVERYONE. I did offer to pay for it for all non family members. This is not something you want your child to catch it is so sad and potentially life threatening to them. Why risk it? My youngest has had RSV twice, which isn't nearly as bad as whooping cough. When he had that it was miserable for him and I. So I can only guess what it would be like. Please I urge you to put your foot down, or don't let them be around baby often. It's really that simple.

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  • No shot, no see baby. You're in charge here, so you need to set the ground rules.


  • I was told anyone who would be around LO a LOT should have the shot.  I got mine in the third tri of course, DH had had his booster a year prior, so he didn't need another one.  My mom and sister were going to be visiting for a week to help, so they got it, and my in-laws came for a week as well, so they got it.  Everyone else we just made sure they washed their hands and/or applied anti-bacterial before handling the baby.  Really, no one else but our immediate families were holding her for more than a few minutes when she was that small.

     

    If your in-laws are going to be around a lot, and wanting to handle the baby a lot, I'd say "no shot, no touching the baby."  You can get it done really quick at most pharmacies, it's not a major imposition requiring an actual doctor's office visit to get it done.  If the problem is that your in-laws are anti-vaxxers, I would not allow them near the baby until the baby was immunized...whooping cough isn't the only thing that they could be passing on to your unvaccinated baby.

  • I'm asking that our families get the TDAP vaccine, too. If they don't, they will not be holding the baby. If you watch/listen to videos of babies with pertussis, it is incredibly heart-breaking. I can't even finish them. No child should have to suffer because of a preventable disease.

    So ask yourself which is more important - keeping your baby safe, or avoiding confrontation with your in-laws?
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  • My rule is: no shot, no holding or touching baby.  There are few things as horrible as sitting in a hospital room, watching your new baby struggle to breathe and cough.  My (now ex) MIL stopped by to visit at home when DS1 was just a few weeks old, and she was the only visitor that week.  She washed her hands, and held DS1 for less than 20 min.  Nope.  For HER it was a cold that showed up the next day, for my tiny baby it was a week in the hospital. 

    No family member's feelings are worth that.  If their beliefs are against the shot, or they just don't want to, then they'll need to be happy with pictures until after baby is old enough to get the vaccine.

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  • It's really only for immediate family who will be around the baby 24/7. I'm the only one who got the shot, my dr didn't recommended anyone else, but I've heard of this. Just make sure they have no symptoms, have clean hands, and no kissing on the mouth.
    My OB recommended anyone who will have contact with the baby. I'm not going to be as extreme as that, but it's not just people who will be around baby 24/7. 

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  • TacoSarah said:

    If you get the vaccination whilst pregnant, then you will pass on the immunity to the baby. The vaccine also last for 10 years in adults, so they don't need to get it again if the have had it within that period of time. So the most important person to get the shot is you between 28 and 32 weeks.

    Also the US is one of the very few countries that offers the shot to adults. The UK and Australia only offer it to the expectant mother and to children as part of their immunisation plan.

    Sorry to hi-jack the post but my DH and I got the whooping cough vaccine in Australia early this year(I was not pregnant at that point but am pregnant now) is my baby still covered by my whooping cough vaccination until she is old enough for the vaccination herself?
  • The shot while pregnant does not 100% protect the baby. It can pass on antibodies but do not treat that as if the baby cannot catch pertussis.

    Also, most people get the shot as children and the effects for the pertussis part wear off by the time you are an adult. Adult boosters generally do not include the pertussis part, only the diptheria and tetanus.

    My rule also was no shot, no seeing the baby. Washing hands isn't going to prevent someone from passing it along.

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  • Thanks everyone! I tried watching the videos and it's just so horrible. My in laws aren't anti-vaxxers, it's more that they are just stubborn and don't want to follow the rules. More of the "I raised 10 kids, never had a shot, and everyone survived." So in a way it's worse and more annoying.

    I told my husband today...if they don't get the shot (and prove it) they can't see or hold the baby.
  • Thanks everyone! I tried watching the videos and it's just so horrible. My in laws aren't anti-vaxxers, it's more that they are just stubborn and don't want to follow the rules. More of the "I raised 10 kids, never had a shot, and everyone survived." So in a way it's worse and more annoying.

    I told my husband today...if they don't get the shot (and prove it) they can't see or hold the baby.

    Ugh. I am sorry. I hate that mentality because guess what? The ones who did not survive aren't here to talk about it.

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  • Hector33 said:

    TacoSarah said:

    If you get the vaccination whilst pregnant, then you will pass on the immunity to the baby. The vaccine also last for 10 years in adults, so they don't need to get it again if the have had it within that period of time. So the most important person to get the shot is you between 28 and 32 weeks.

    Also the US is one of the very few countries that offers the shot to adults. The UK and Australia only offer it to the expectant mother and to children as part of their immunisation plan.

    Sorry to hi-jack the post but my DH and I got the whooping cough vaccine in Australia early this year(I was not pregnant at that point but am pregnant now) is my baby still covered by my whooping cough vaccination until she is old enough for the vaccination herself?
    Nope. You have to get it while pregnant for the baby to be covered. I had a booster in April 2014 before going to Africa on my honeymoon. DH also had one then. I had another in March 2015 while in my third trimester. Even though I wasn't due for a booster I got one anyway in hopes that DD would benefit. Dh, however, did not need another booster as he was still covered from his 2014 shot.

    You do have to make sure the booster is the full TDAP to guarantee that whooping cough is included. If you specifically tell the pharmacy you need a whooping cough vaccine they should get that for you.
  • My husband and I decided that we would ask but not force anyone to get it. I didn't want to be so extreme as to forbid someone to see the baby if they hadn't but just take more precautions. I got mine while pregnant and my husband had his last year. We decided that each of us would talk to our own families. My parents were up to date and my brother volunteered when he heard us talking about it. My in-laws were another story. But this was partially my fault. My husband kept forgetting to talk to them and then I started getting contractions and panicked that baby would arrive before we got the shot business settled. This caused him to call his parents and tell them they had to go get a shot right now! This didn't go over well....and my MIL got upset. I smoothed it over and it turns out that they both have had it. But we didn't avoid drama over her being not believing what we were saying about why it's needed (and kept bringing up that my husband had it as a baby) and thinking we were accusing her of doing something that would get the baby sick.
    My SIL is another story...she is anti-vaccine and we just aren't going there. She just had a baby in March so she may have had it while pregnant. But she had been combative in the past over us getting vaccines and I'm sure it would be even worse to ask her to get one. She lives 2.5 hours away and we only see her about once a month.
  • We asked our families who were staying with us to get it. Nobody balked I just let everyone know that our doctor recommended it and that was that. My family had no trouble and the inlaws were having 2 grand babies within 6 weeks and both SIL and I asked so they got the memo it was important.

    The only person who did not get one was my grandpa because he forgot but he absolutely did not hold my son that first visit (by his choice) he forgot to get his and didn't want to expose my son. He felt terrible and they stayed 5 days. No problems this time because they are already covered (except grandpa who will get his this time if they come out before the first vax).
  • Pertussis is spread through saliva or mucus so just being around the baby and breathing on them can be a threat. No amount of handwashing or sanitizer will help that.

    No shot, no baby. And I'm prepared to push the issue to a few family members as my baby is not worth their feelings.

    I was told that even though you don't need a booster until 10 years they recommend anyone who hasn't had one in the past 5 years to get it if you're going to be around an infant.
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  • edited October 2015
    People who have been recently vaccinated for pertussis can be asymptomatic carriers of the illness therefore increasing the risk to your baby. I would rather have someone realize they were sick and not come around my baby rather than *think* they had done some good by getting vaccinated, be an asymptomatic carrier, and infect my baby. I do not let anyone who has been recently vaccinated for anything around my babies when they are little.

    People who HAVEN'T been vaccinated can also be asymptomatic carriers and cause just as much, if not more, damage, like my exMIL in my above post. 


    ETA:  I just realized replying to you is mostly a waste of time.  You seem to only be here to make anti-vaccine comments.

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  • I did not get the shot and not making my friends/family get it. I am not comfortable with the ingredients, side effects and lack of studies done on getting it during pregnancy. My doctor is fine with my decision and told me it's optional. I spent a lot of time thinking it over before I made my decision.
  • How recent did your doctors say your family and DH shots needed to be? What I read on the CDC was by 4 years less than half of adults were still adequately protected from pertussis but the official recommendation for TDAP is once as an adult or 10 years for tetanus.
  • TomekiaB said:
    How recent did your doctors say your family and DH shots needed to be? What I read on the CDC was by 4 years less than half of adults were still adequately protected from pertussis but the official recommendation for TDAP is once as an adult or 10 years for tetanus.
    My OB said that they recommend it for pregnant women at each pregnancy, but she wasn't clear to me on other people.

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