September 2015 Moms

Update-Don't know if I can do this anymore...

CEW225CEW225 member
edited September 2015 in September 2015 Moms
This is sort of another breastfeeding post, but, like some others on here, I need encouragement.

I have posted in different threads about how LO lost almost a pound in her first few days. She went from 6lb 15oz down to 6lb even. I was told by the nurses at the hospital to start supplementing with some formula after she fed from me. I have done that, not as consistently as I would have liked to because, I went to a LC, and was told supplementing would hurt my supply, which I didn't want to happen either.

My pediatrician wants her back to 6lb 7oz tomorrow when we visit as that would be a half ounce a day since we last visited. I'm really afraid she hasn't made it. DH bought a kitchen scale at walmart to try and weigh her, but it's too small for her squirmy self. We can't get an accurate measurement. If she hasn't gained weight tomorrow, I don't know what I'm going to do.

I try to feed her and she falls asleep when she's nursing more times than not, which I'm afraid is part of the reason she hasn't gained much. I try everything to keep her awake and nothing seems to phase her very much. She takes a bottle pretty easily though. I am going to ask about tongue tie tomorrow because I think she has it, which, when fixed, could help things out, but I'm about to my wits end. I feel so stressed constantly about how much she's eating, if she's gained weight, and all that. She has a good number of dirty and wet diapers each day, so that helps, but I'm still afraid it isn't translating to her weight. My anxiety is through the roof because I want to breastfeed, but if she's not eating right, then i know something has to be done. It makes me feel like a bad mom because I can't give her what she needs. I cry at least twice a day over feeding her because I'm so scared it's not working.

Pumping seems impossible at this point because by the time I try and feed her, fix her bottle, and all that, I don't have time to pump.

I'm sorry this is such a long post and is another rant/lament on breastfeeding, but you ladies are such a wonderful support group. My mom didn't BF me, so she doesnt understand and, while I could not ask fo a more supportive husband, he can't understand what it feels like and I know he's tired of listening to me cry all the time.

What do I do?

Re: Update-Don't know if I can do this anymore...

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  • Hang in there!! I have the exact same problem as you! It's like we are describing the same baby. Don't worry my baby girl lost over 10% of her body weight and I was told to supplement, so I did. When we went back to the doctor to get weighted again after 3 days, she had gained half a pound!! I had the same worries as you, but I think you'll be surprised when you go to the doctor! As far as keeping her awake, I've tried everything as well. I just end up doing all of it, I undress her, then change her, and then if that doesn't work..I take a cold cloth and wipe her face. Sometimes none of that keeps her awake, so I just keep repeating the process. It takes me an hour to get about 20-30 minutes worth of feeding. It's frustrating I know, but hang in there!
  • Still pregnant here, just wanted to say you are an awesome mom! Your babe is so blessed to have you. You'll get through this <3 :x hope you can find ways to make it work and just know that we're rooting for you.
  • I'm no expert, but it sounds to me like she's nursing fine if she has enough dirty diapers. babies don't all grow at the same rate, and doctors can be pretty quick to enforce a standardized growth chart on everyone. I would just keep nursing her. it is worth getting her mouth looked at, but it sounds to me like she's just a skinny baby. don't let the doctor scare you.
  • My son had some bad jaundice when he was born, and was always too sleepy to nurse. He lost a lot of weight too, right to the point where we were about to have to supplement. He ended up having to be readmitted to the hospital because of his jaundice and they wanted him to gain more weight. I literally would take his clothes off every time I nursed him and he would still fall asleep, so I would let him nurse, when he fell asleep I would take him off, burp him, rub his feet, get him uncomfortable (change his diaper things like that) and make him nurse more. He has gained a lot of weight and we are doing so much better now! Hang in there! I know it's rough, but it's worth it! I am pumping some too because I have SO MUCH milk, and my son just can't drain all the milk. I think sometimes too if I'm too engorged, it's hard for him to latch properly and he just gets a firehose of milk down his throat. So sometimes I pump before I nurse so he has an easier time. Good luck mama!
  • PP gave you good advice. The only thing I wanted to add was to try to make sure LO drains one side each feed so they get the hind milk. If LO is only getting foremilk, he/she may have trouble putting on weight, so don't be too quick to switch to the other side.
  • There is a separate growth chart for breastfed babies and formula fed. Ask your ped if LO is being charted on the right one. It can be found on the WHO website if you want a copy. Also, I pump whatever side DD is not nursing on, that way I can start building up my supply for the baby sitter when I return to work. Just a thought if you're feeling like you don't have time to pump
  • I'm sorry I didn't see it mentioned above, but get a regular scale. Strip baby down like the pedi office will, hop on holding her, then pass her to DH, and subtract. It might not be just dead on, but it'll give you at least an idea of how she's gaining.
    But like others have said, it's more about signs from baby that they're getting enough. Moist mucus membranes, tears when crying (be careful with this one, it sometimes takes a bit for babies to cry tears), and wet/dirty diapers.
    I know it's hard as f@ck momma. It really is. Trust your gut. My middle lost a pound after birth and wasn't gaining. Long story short: formula. But I remember another momma on here said she just kept asking the pedi to give baby time and baby was at birthweight at 2 weeks!!
    There's many roads momma, you have to pick the one that works for you and your family. But whatever you pick, it's perfect!!
  • Thank you all for your suggestions, advice, and encouragement. I mean, I may go tomorrow and she's gained it all back and this may be for nothing, but it just doesn't seem like it.

    I need to find a hands free pumping bra so that it will make pumping while nursing easier. This may be dumb, but I don't even know when she reaches the hindmilk. I know she has to drain one side, or feed on it for a while, but it doesn't ever seem to get to that point. However, I did read that if she is getting too much foremilk, her poop will be different and it's not like that. It's the normal mustardy, seedy consistency it should be, so that makes me think she's getting the hindmilk.

    As far as keeping her awake, Ive used the washcloth, ice cubes, stripped her down, changed her diaper, etc. It works for a couple of minutes and then she's out. I'll burp her in the middle, change between the football and cradle hold, nothing phases her. I'm going to ask tomorrow at the pediatrician because I feel like she might sleep more than she should throughout the day.
  • A hands-free nursing bra will make a big difference! You can block feed or massage your breast to get to the hind milk. Hang in there! You are doing great!!!
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  • @Cew225 try nipple shields, that is the only thing that I could do with my LO and he is now on only breast milk, he had to be supplemented also. It was the best $10 I ever spent, it helps them latch and think it's more like a bottle than your breast! Good luck!
  • I've been in your shoes. I was devastated with DD1 that I couldn't produce enough milk and went to an LC, a breast specialist and even an endocrinologist. My 6 year old is beautiful and intelligent and survived on mostly formula for the first year of life. Just remember, nourishing your baby is most important, even Moreso Than how you do it . Good luck!
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  • NatabearNatabear member
    edited September 2015
    I'm so sorry you're going through this. When my milk finally came in I was too engorged for my baby to be able to latch anymore and I was terrified that I'd never be able to breastfeed him again. My husband bought 3 different breast pumps that day because we were desperate. :( I know it's not the same issue, but some of the advice I received might help you too.

    As far as waking baby up during or for a feeding, I found it far too stressful for both of us. He refused to eat at the start of that day for nearly 10 hours, I tried stripping him down to just a blanket and diaper but it only caused him to shiver as he cried and sleep even more because I wouldn't let him rest. I finally gave him about an ounce of formula when he would take it to settle his tummy, let him sleep awhile and then tried a more relaxed approach. A warm shower helped soften my breasts and allowed the milk to flow easier, massaging them as he ate helped him get milk more efficiently, and rubbing the side of his face, his jawline, or between his eyebrows usually helps him to wake a little when he's dosing off during a feeding. When I started doing all of these things during feedings, he stopped wanting to feed constantly and seemed much more content in waiting every 2-3 hours. I know it's easier said than done, but try your best to let go of some of the stress so that it doesn't make it even harder for you and baby. I've found that breastfeeding him is far more difficult when I'm worked up and trying to force him into it.
  • Thank you all again for your advice and encouragement.

    Went to her appointment today and she has not gained any weight. She has maintained though. She does have a slight tongue tie, but nothing bad and the pediatrician believes she will probably be okay without fixing it.

    Doctor was concerned about lack of weight gain, but not overly concerned. She reassured me by saying she breastfed her daughter and it took her 3 weeks to get back to her birth weight. That helped me feel better. Everything else looked good though, so that is a blessing. We have to go back Monday to get her weight checked again. She thinks I should be able to continue to breastfeed, but to give her supplement after each feeding just to help boost her weight. I may be able to stop with the formula once she gets to a certain point. She also said that, once we get some weight back on her, we can let her sleep through the night and wake us up when she is hungry. I still have to try and do everything I can to get her to wake up for eating, but at least I feel better about continuing to breastfeed.

    @beansideirae Thank you for posting that link. That explains a lot about her and it explains a lot about me too. I am 2 weeks postpartum and have already lost back down to my pre-pregnancy weight; I only gained 20 lbs to begin with.
  • @CEW225 just keep at those tactics to keep her awake. I have a sleepy baby too...and probably a slow flow, which probably adds to her sleepiness. Ayiyi... Just keep at it.

    And...5-6 wet diapers, 3-4 soiled diapers and you're good. I had pretty bad anxiety too, but just trust the facts: if you meet those numbers your baby is good!
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