August 2015 Moms

College

So I know it's super early days, but have any of you started a college savings account for your LO?  If so, are you using a state 529 plan, or something else?  I know there are a variety available, but every time I sit down to look at them, LO wakes up!  Just curious if anyone has already looked into this!

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  • Yep already started with a 529 for both boys.

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  • Her grandparents have left her an inheritance that we can manage until shes 21.  We aren't telling her about it though until shes older.  I think we'll most likely tell her to take out some loans, then we'll pay her loans off when she finishes college.  But it really depends on the type of kid she ends up to be, and we'll assess things more in the future.  

    Otherwise....meh.  I had a bad experience with my 529.  It decreased my financial aid eligibility compared to my siblings that didn't get it.    
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  • amorgan71313amorgan71313 member
    edited September 2015
    Started a 529 as soon as we had his SSN. Here is a link with some basic info on what a 529 plan is. You can also look into educational savings plan which I think can be used for lower level education like private school. Where as our 529 is just for higher education. https://www.savingforcollege.com/intro_to_529s/what-is-a-529-plan.php
  • Her grandparents have left her an inheritance that we can manage until shes 21.  We aren't telling her about it though until shes older.  I think we'll most likely tell her to take out some loans, then we'll pay her loans off when she finishes college.  But it really depends on the type of kid she ends up to be, and we'll assess things more in the future.  


    Otherwise....meh.  I had a bad experience with my 529.  It decreased my financial aid eligibility compared to my siblings that didn't get it.    
    @sandrabrooke just curious - why would you have her take out loans then pay them off after graduation? Seems like that would just incur unnecessary interest. I think you'd accomplish the same thing by telling her the money is there, but it's for college, but you obviously have a long time to decide!!

    I assume the finaid eligibility issue would present itself whether you used a 529 or not, since they'd look at the parents' savings even if they're not in a designated college plan. There will always be more for the first kid, then less as it gets spent...Or was there some other issue?
  • JNOVA2015 said:

    Her grandparents have left her an inheritance that we can manage until shes 21.  We aren't telling her about it though until shes older.  I think we'll most likely tell her to take out some loans, then we'll pay her loans off when she finishes college.  But it really depends on the type of kid she ends up to be, and we'll assess things more in the future.  


    Otherwise....meh.  I had a bad experience with my 529.  It decreased my financial aid eligibility compared to my siblings that didn't get it.    
    @sandrabrooke just curious - why would you have her take out loans then pay them off after graduation? Seems like that would just incur unnecessary interest. I think you'd accomplish the same thing by telling her the money is there, but it's for college, but you obviously have a long time to decide!!


    It would help build their credit though, right? I can see where a low interest loan would make sense to get a great credit score started:)
  • jlsweets said:

    Yep already started with a 529 for both boys.

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  • sandrabrookesandrabrooke member
    edited September 2015

    JNOVA2015 said:
    Her grandparents have left her an inheritance that we can manage until shes 21.  We aren't telling her about it though until shes older.  I think we'll most likely tell her to take out some loans, then we'll pay her loans off when she finishes college.  But it really depends on the type of kid she ends up to be, and we'll assess things more in the future.  

    Otherwise....meh.  I had a bad experience with my 529.  It decreased my financial aid eligibility compared to my siblings that didn't get it.    
    @sandrabrooke just curious - why would you have her take out loans then pay them off after graduation? Seems like that would just incur unnecessary interest. I think you'd accomplish the same thing by telling her the money is there, but it's for college, but you obviously have a long time to decide!! I assume the finaid eligibility issue would present itself whether you used a 529 or not, since they'd look at the parents' savings even if they're not in a designated college plan. There will always be more for the first kid, then less as it gets spent...Or was there some other issue?
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    I would only do it with subsidized loans.  So right at graduation, I'd pay them off and no interest would be accrued.  But I'm hoping she's a motivated student that understands the value of money and develops a work ethic.  She has aunts/uncles with college completely paid for who just party all day.  

    For 529, my mom was like "Well we gotta save the money for your siblings too".  But it was stupid because financial aid asssumed I had access to ALL the money in the account.  So more of a personal issue, really.  Also, there aren't as many options to modify the investment portfolio...and as I work in finance, I like being able to modify things if I want.

    ETA: To make more sense.  
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  • @toccoaparker you could accomplish the same thing by getting her a credit card and charging small amounts and paying off monthly. There are a ton of ways to build up credit that wouldn't incur costs, so I don't think I'd go that route. But if the loans were subsidized so that you aren't paying interest it would make sense - then you actually accrue interest on the savings while the loans are subsidized.

    Looks like everyone is going with 529s! I'll have to talk to DH and look at opening one.
  • Not for our newest addition yet, but that's this weekend's plan. We use our state's plan for our daughter so we can get the state tax credit.
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  • DS started looking into 529 last night. Then it was on the news this morning.

    For any of you in MA, the news said and IDA plan might be better for us (again not sure why, this is all DHs job to look into). I also know that most states treat a 529 like a 401k, except MA. They consider it taxable income.
  • Go to Clark Howard and look up his article on 529s. He spells out the benefits as well as which states have the best plan.
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  • I don't think we have anything like that in England. We either pay up front for university fees or take out a student loan. That being the case I've already started a saving account for my 3 week old with money going in every month from my wages. I'll also ask family not to buy her anything this Christmas or for 1st birthday and put something in her account instead. She can then use it for a car, house deposit or university depending on her preference and attitude.
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    edited September 2015
    Jenni329 said:

    I don't think we have anything like that in England. We either pay up front for university fees or take out a student loan. That being the case I've already started a saving account for my 3 week old with money going in every month from my wages. I'll also ask family not to buy her anything this Christmas or for 1st birthday and put something in her account instead. She can then use it for a car, house deposit or university depending on her preference and attitude.

    You probably don't have as much need for it in the UK since university costs a fraction of what college costs in the U.S. :) Especially for private schools, which can cost upwards of 50k per year not including room and board. You guys have a way better system, IMO (or at least a system that makes college a realistic possibility for people from most income brackets)!
  • Long post / rant, but here goes:

    I know this sounds horrible but we probably will not set funds aside for her college. My take on it is it is up to the child to get scholarships if they want to go to a 4 year fresh out of high school, otherwise she will be going to community college for two years and then finish up at a university if she wishes to continue for a bachelor's.

    If she is able to score at least a half ride to a 4 year, we will help to pay for the remainder then, but will be expected to have at least a part time job to help out herself.

    I have a really negative outlook on the current system of college education and as far as I'm concerned it is a scam unless you are going into medical, engineering, law, or something where a license or certificate is needed. I don't want to see us or her go a lifetime into debt over a useless education. If something changes in the system, I'm all for it. But I'm not having us or her pay 50k or more for a degree that is no better than 5 years of on the job training.

    I made a lot of mistakes with college and long story short I got taken for a ride by a school that lost its accreditation yet I still have to pay back 60k and I couldn't even get my degree. I was able to put my credits toward an associates degree at an online school, so when it was all over, I paid 65k for an associates in criminal justice.

    All of this was my own fault for not knowing what I was getting myself into. My goal for my children will be to make them understand what they are going to school for and to earn it.
  • Do any of you have states with free college in high school? MN has a program where you can go full time junior/senior year. I ended up graduating at twenty because of it. And helped me avoid more debt than I would have.
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  • Long post / rant, but here goes:

    I know this sounds horrible but we probably will not set funds aside for her college. My take on it is it is up to the child to get scholarships if they want to go to a 4 year fresh out of high school, otherwise she will be going to community college for two years and then finish up at a university if she wishes to continue for a bachelor's.

    If she is able to score at least a half ride to a 4 year, we will help to pay for the remainder then, but will be expected to have at least a part time job to help out herself.

    I have a really negative outlook on the current system of college education and as far as I'm concerned it is a scam unless you are going into medical, engineering, law, or something where a license or certificate is needed. I don't want to see us or her go a lifetime into debt over a useless education. If something changes in the system, I'm all for it. But I'm not having us or her pay 50k or more for a degree that is no better than 5 years of on the job training.

    I made a lot of mistakes with college and long story short I got taken for a ride by a school that lost its accreditation yet I still have to pay back 60k and I couldn't even get my degree. I was able to put my credits toward an associates degree at an online school, so when it was all over, I paid 65k for an associates in criminal justice.

    All of this was my own fault for not knowing what I was getting myself into. My goal for my children will be to make them understand what they are going to school for and to earn it.

    Hmmmmm. Obviously to each their own but I disagree. There are other degrees that are not related to the medical or law field that are very significant to our society and I definitely wouldn't ever go as far as to call them *scams*. I worked my ass off to get my degree at a well known college. Worked way too much, lost way too much sleep and honestly didn't enjoy my college experience at all. Why? Because I was so busy working, because my parents couldn't afford to help pay for college, that I missed very important experiences. I would never pay for my child to go to school online or to a college that barely holds accredidation because I understand most of those degrees/certificates are often questioned. I plan to help my kids get through school. Of course we would love them to get scholarships and will assist them in doing so. However, as a parent it is my job to invest in my kids as well as teach them about the value of a dollar. Will they have part time jobs through college? Depends. My sister is a collegiate athlete and there's no way she would work with her schedule. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with helping kids pay for school as well as teach them the value of an education. They can still learn to work hard with assistance from their parents. They can still learn that money must be earned while studying to get their dream jobs. I want them to have what I didn't.

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    Agreed. I had some academic scholarships, a little bit of help from the savings my parents set aside for my education, and still had some loans I had to take out on my own. I worked summers, holidays and through the work study program. Due to finances I didn't finish my degree until I was 25 because I had to work full time as a nurse (received my RN diploma at 20) while I took classes here and there. However I'm 29 years old and paid my last school loan off last year. I worked hard and now have no debt and a good job. I know I'm in the medical field, but I could have done the same thing in a different field. To each their own... But I plan to help my kids as much as I can to get a good education. Already started her savings and I'm fortunate that my dad started a 529 for all the grandkids for him to put money into for their schooling as well.
  • Long post / rant, but here goes: I know this sounds horrible but we probably will not set funds aside for her college. My take on it is it is up to the child to get scholarships if they want to go to a 4 year fresh out of high school, otherwise she will be going to community college for two years and then finish up at a university if she wishes to continue for a bachelor's. If she is able to score at least a half ride to a 4 year, we will help to pay for the remainder then, but will be expected to have at least a part time job to help out herself. I have a really negative outlook on the current system of college education and as far as I'm concerned it is a scam unless you are going into medical, engineering, law, or something where a license or certificate is needed. I don't want to see us or her go a lifetime into debt over a useless education. If something changes in the system, I'm all for it. But I'm not having us or her pay 50k or more for a degree that is no better than 5 years of on the job training. I made a lot of mistakes with college and long story short I got taken for a ride by a school that lost its accreditation yet I still have to pay back 60k and I couldn't even get my degree. I was able to put my credits toward an associates degree at an online school, so when it was all over, I paid 65k for an associates in criminal justice. All of this was my own fault for not knowing what I was getting myself into. My goal for my children will be to make them understand what they are going to school for and to earn it.
    Hmmmmm. Obviously to each their own but I disagree. There are other degrees that are not related to the medical or law field that are very significant to our society and I definitely wouldn't ever go as far as to call them *scams*. I worked my ass off to get my degree at a well known college. Worked way too much, lost way too much sleep and honestly didn't enjoy my college experience at all. Why? Because I was so busy working, because my parents couldn't afford to help pay for college, that I missed very important experiences. I would never pay for my child to go to school online or to a college that barely holds accredidation because I understand most of those degrees/certificates are often questioned. I plan to help my kids get through school. Of course we would love them to get scholarships and will assist them in doing so. However, as a parent it is my job to invest in my kids as well as teach them about the value of a dollar. Will they have part time jobs through college? Depends. My sister is a collegiate athlete and there's no way she would work with her schedule. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with helping kids pay for school as well as teach them the value of an education. They can still learn to work hard with assistance from their parents. They can still learn that money must be earned while studying to get their dream jobs. I want them to have what I didn't. Experiences.

    What experiences do you think you missed? I was in your boat where I overworked myself....but I felt most people in my major did the same thing so I kind of just fit in. I agree with you that you can learn the value of education ( and even get some work experience) without having kids pay all of it. I kind of feel it's my responsibility not to start my kids life in massive amounts of debt and allow them a chance to take that unpaid internship if it helps them get ahead! (Not to mention our income probably disqualifies us from any aid for our kids).
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  • Long post / rant, but here goes:

    I know this sounds horrible but we probably will not set funds aside for her college. My take on it is it is up to the child to get scholarships if they want to go to a 4 year fresh out of high school, otherwise she will be going to community college for two years and then finish up at a university if she wishes to continue for a bachelor's.

    If she is able to score at least a half ride to a 4 year, we will help to pay for the remainder then, but will be expected to have at least a part time job to help out herself.

    I have a really negative outlook on the current system of college education and as far as I'm concerned it is a scam unless you are going into medical, engineering, law, or something where a license or certificate is needed. I don't want to see us or her go a lifetime into debt over a useless education. If something changes in the system, I'm all for it. But I'm not having us or her pay 50k or more for a degree that is no better than 5 years of on the job training.

    I made a lot of mistakes with college and long story short I got taken for a ride by a school that lost its accreditation yet I still have to pay back 60k and I couldn't even get my degree. I was able to put my credits toward an associates degree at an online school, so when it was all over, I paid 65k for an associates in criminal justice.

    All of this was my own fault for not knowing what I was getting myself into. My goal for my children will be to make them understand what they are going to school for and to earn it.

    Hmmmmm. Obviously to each their own but I disagree. There are other degrees that are not related to the medical or law field that are very significant to our society and I definitely wouldn't ever go as far as to call them *scams*. I worked my ass off to get my degree at a well known college. Worked way too much, lost way too much sleep and honestly didn't enjoy my college experience at all. Why? Because I was so busy working, because my parents couldn't afford to help pay for college, that I missed very important experiences. I would never pay for my child to go to school online or to a college that barely holds accredidation because I understand most of those degrees/certificates are often questioned. I plan to help my kids get through school. Of course we would love them to get scholarships and will assist them in doing so. However, as a parent it is my job to invest in my kids as well as teach them about the value of a dollar. Will they have part time jobs through college? Depends. My sister is a collegiate athlete and there's no way she would work with her schedule. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with helping kids pay for school as well as teach them the value of an education. They can still learn to work hard with assistance from their parents. They can still learn that money must be earned while studying to get their dream jobs. I want them to have what I didn't.

    Experiences.




    What experiences do you think you missed? I was in your boat where I overworked myself....but I felt most people in my major did the same thing so I kind of just fit in. I agree with you that you can learn the value of education ( and even get some work experience) without having kids pay all of it. I kind of feel it's my responsibility not to start my kids life in massive amounts of debt and allow them a chance to take that unpaid internship if it helps them get ahead! (Not to mention our income probably disqualifies us from any aid for our kids).

    Internships, networking events, fun with friends, ect. I literally had no time for anything other than work or school. That was my life. As stated, to each their own but I find nothing wrong with assisting my children to accomplish their goals if I'm able too.
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  • We're saving for college because we saw first hand that just because you're a really good student, doesn't mean that there are a lot of scholarships. DH had an amazing transcript and applied for all the scholarships available and still hardly got anything. It's definitely up to each family whether they want to pay or not, but I'd rather not assume that our kids will be in the top 1%. I would be more than proud if any of them decided not to go to college and have a blue collar job, their path is up to them. I agree that some degree courses have gotten out of hand and I know plenty of people that graduated with $50K in debt for a music education degree that they can't find a job doing. 

    side note: DH paid for all of his college while his parents have paid completely for his brother's college (he's 8 years younger). DH is really proud to have paid his own way (I am too) but I personally find it crazy unfair. 
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  • @Crystal321 @California_Dreaming I can honestly kind of see both sides. I know a lot of people who paid a lot of money for degrees that have gotten them nowhere. I don't know if it's just the job market or economy or that degrees really are "worthless", or maybe I just know a lot of lazy people. Probably a combination. That's what really bothers me. People spend all this money for college and end up working at an entry level job that requires nothing more than a high school diploma. Why go to college if that's all you're going to do?

    At the same time, of course we need college educated people in our society, so it's important that people aren't held back from going due to finances.

    Anyway, I don't have a savings in place for my kids at this time. I honestly haven't even looked into it. Maybe I will, maybe not. I went to an expensive private college. I took out some loans and my parents took out loans for the rest. I'll be perfectly honest, I have no idea how much $$ they took out. But I also got a lot of grant and scholarship money. All in all I pay about $300/month on my school loans which isn't bad at all in my opinion. As far as when I was in school, I worked part time just for my car and spending money, but I wasn't working for school money. I didn't have to start paying my loans back until I graduated, so that was no big deal. The only thing I had to pay for while I was in school was books.

    So my plan for my kids is roughly the same. They can take out some loans and DH and I can either pay for or take out loans for the rest. We'll figure it out as it gets closer. More importantly, I'm going to make sure my kids have a clear idea of what they want to do before they go to college (and if that means taking a few years off to figure it out, that's fine) and they need to make sure that the jobs are something there is a need for so they won't have too much difficulty finding a job after graduation.
  • I know that my opinion won't be popular on college, but I just feel that many of the degrees that are offered are useless and a person who really wants a career in a field that does not require special licensing or certificates can gain more from hands on experience working in that field and moving up than a person with a general 4 year degree.

    With that being said, if my child shows real interest and wants to pursue a degree that will pay itself off and makes a huge effort for scholarships through academics or sports, then we will dip into savings to help. If she shows real promise and wants to be a doctor, I will do everything in my power to make that happen.

    To each their own, but I'm not going to send my kid to a 4 year just because it's the thing to do. If they finish high school and have no idea what they want to do still and/or don't have any substantial scholarships, they will do their 2 years at community college and then we will see about finishing at a university.
  • @Crystal321 @California_Dreaming I can honestly kind of see both sides. I know a lot of people who paid a lot of money for degrees that have gotten them nowhere. I don't know if it's just the job market or economy or that degrees really are "worthless", or maybe I just know a lot of lazy people. Probably a combination. That's what really bothers me. People spend all this money for college and end up working at an entry level job that requires nothing more than a high school diploma. Why go to college if that's all you're going to do?

    At the same time, of course we need college educated people in our society, so it's important that people aren't held back from going due to finances.

    Anyway, I don't have a savings in place for my kids at this time. I honestly haven't even looked into it. Maybe I will, maybe not. I went to an expensive private college. I took out some loans and my parents took out loans for the rest. I'll be perfectly honest, I have no idea how much $$ they took out. But I also got a lot of grant and scholarship money. All in all I pay about $300/month on my school loans which isn't bad at all in my opinion. As far as when I was in school, I worked part time just for my car and spending money, but I wasn't working for school money. I didn't have to start paying my loans back until I graduated, so that was no big deal. The only thing I had to pay for while I was in school was books.

    So my plan for my kids is roughly the same. They can take out some loans and DH and I can either pay for or take out loans for the rest. We'll figure it out as it gets closer. More importantly, I'm going to make sure my kids have a clear idea of what they want to do before they go to college (and if that means taking a few years off to figure it out, that's fine) and they need to make sure that the jobs are something there is a need for so they won't have too much difficulty finding a job after graduation.

    My thoughts exactly... I don't mind helping, but just like any other major financial decision, I want to make sure it's a good decision. I learned a lot from my own mistakes and I will not let my kid make the same mistakes that I did.
  • @Crystal321 @California_Dreaming I can honestly kind of see both sides. I know a lot of people who paid a lot of money for degrees that have gotten them nowhere. I don't know if it's just the job market or economy or that degrees really are "worthless", or maybe I just know a lot of lazy people. Probably a combination. That's what really bothers me. People spend all this money for college and end up working at an entry level job that requires nothing more than a high school diploma. Why go to college if that's all you're going to do?

    At the same time, of course we need college educated people in our society, so it's important that people aren't held back from going due to finances.

    Anyway, I don't have a savings in place for my kids at this time. I honestly haven't even looked into it. Maybe I will, maybe not. I went to an expensive private college. I took out some loans and my parents took out loans for the rest. I'll be perfectly honest, I have no idea how much $$ they took out. But I also got a lot of grant and scholarship money. All in all I pay about $300/month on my school loans which isn't bad at all in my opinion. As far as when I was in school, I worked part time just for my car and spending money, but I wasn't working for school money. I didn't have to start paying my loans back until I graduated, so that was no big deal. The only thing I had to pay for while I was in school was books.

    So my plan for my kids is roughly the same. They can take out some loans and DH and I can either pay for or take out loans for the rest. We'll figure it out as it gets closer. More importantly, I'm going to make sure my kids have a clear idea of what they want to do before they go to college (and if that means taking a few years off to figure it out, that's fine) and they need to make sure that the jobs are something there is a need for so they won't have too much difficulty finding a job after graduation.

    I get what you're saying I just can't support the whole "they need to do all of the work for their education". I know plenty of people who went to school and aren't using their degrees. However, I have many acquaintances who do use theirs and that's trumps any negativity surrounding higher education for me. Is it expensive? Hell yea. I paid on my loans while I was in school which is why I'm not in a large amount of debt. Again, to each their own but I'm all about providing for my children's higher education and of course we will have a plan of action.
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  • @Crystal321 @California_Dreaming I can honestly kind of see both sides. I know a lot of people who paid a lot of money for degrees that have gotten them nowhere. I don't know if it's just the job market or economy or that degrees really are "worthless", or maybe I just know a lot of lazy people. Probably a combination. That's what really bothers me. People spend all this money for college and end up working at an entry level job that requires nothing more than a high school diploma. Why go to college if that's all you're going to do?

    At the same time, of course we need college educated people in our society, so it's important that people aren't held back from going due to finances.

    Anyway, I don't have a savings in place for my kids at this time. I honestly haven't even looked into it. Maybe I will, maybe not. I went to an expensive private college. I took out some loans and my parents took out loans for the rest. I'll be perfectly honest, I have no idea how much $$ they took out. But I also got a lot of grant and scholarship money. All in all I pay about $300/month on my school loans which isn't bad at all in my opinion. As far as when I was in school, I worked part time just for my car and spending money, but I wasn't working for school money. I didn't have to start paying my loans back until I graduated, so that was no big deal. The only thing I had to pay for while I was in school was books.

    So my plan for my kids is roughly the same. They can take out some loans and DH and I can either pay for or take out loans for the rest. We'll figure it out as it gets closer. More importantly, I'm going to make sure my kids have a clear idea of what they want to do before they go to college (and if that means taking a few years off to figure it out, that's fine) and they need to make sure that the jobs are something there is a need for so they won't have too much difficulty finding a job after graduation.

    I get what you're saying I just can't support the whole "they need to do all of the work for their education". I know plenty of people who went to school and aren't using their degrees. However, I have many acquaintances who do use theirs and that's trumps any negativity surrounding higher education for me. Is it expensive? Hell yea. I paid on my loans while I was in school which is why I'm not in a large amount of debt. Again, to each their own but I'm all about providing for my children's higher education and of course we will have a plan of action.
    Yeah. I think each kid is going to be different, too. And who knows what the next 15-20 years holds for how higher education is going to change in this country. DH and I will certainly do what we can to help, but the kids will more than likely have some student loans as well, which I think is fair.
  • We have a mutual fund set up for LO. We decided to do that because that's what my grandparents did for me. To pay for college tuition and books, my parents paid 50% of it with my mutual fund and they paid the other half. After college I still had money left over to use towards a car and I didn't have to go through all the red tape you would to use a 529 for things other than college.

    My brother had the same deal but needed to use part of his money for legal fees when he had a little too much fun in college and it was great that he had that option with his money and he could take out student loans to pay for tuition and didn't accrue any interest until after graduation versus taking out loans to pay for the lawyer that would have high interest rates. Of course, that was a parenting choice my parents had to make and I could never imagine my dear sweet son ever needing to use his money for legal fees but I like the flexibility of a mutual fund over a 529.
  • In Canada we have RESPs. All of my kids have them. The government also makes contributions based on your yearly contributions. It can be used for university, college, or apprenticeships (which are all set-up differently than in the US).

    My parents had small RESPs for me and I took out student loans. DH and I are still paying ours off and it sucks. If I can help alleviate some of that for my kids, I will.
  • We are not doing a 529 but we do have a savings account for each child. Our goal is to be able to pay for two years at a community college, however if they want to attend a four-year they can certainly put the money towards that. Any school expenses past that amount will be their responsibility, unless we end up making a lot more money then we foresee currently.

    If they elect not to attend college and have a plan - vocational school, on the job training, entrepreneurship, etc. that money could be used for a house down payment, wedding, business start up, etc. - but I would not release the money unless they were being productive and had a plan or dream of what they want in life. We're okay though if those plans don't include college.
  • I agree that a lot of students enter college with the wrong attitude and don't take it seriously enough. But to me that's a parenting issue/opportunity.

    I disagree that college is a waste of money though. Almost all professional jobs that I see posted require a minimum of a bachelors degree. Not just those in the medical field.

    DH and I were both incredibly blessed to graduate college without any debt through a combination of scholarships, parental contributions and personal contributions. I can't tell you how beneficial that was. We wouldn't be even close to where we are today financially without that. We plan to do our best to save enough money so that we are able to do the same for our kids. That said, we aren't obligated to do that. So if they aren't making grades or are f-ing around too much then that goes.
  • This is def an interesting topic for me. I went to college 6yrs, yr round to acquire my doctorate degree. I do work in the medical field, however, the way it's going in this country, the salaries aren't there. I had no help from my parents and I easily have over 100k in loans with very high interest rates!! My monthly loan payments were originally 1800/month so I applied for an income based repayment plan to get them down to 1200/month (this is still a large portion of my income). I will be paying these loans off for the vast majority of my life. Thankfully I enjoy my job.. Most days lol

    My husband and I have both done everything on our own and everything we have, it's because of our hard work. We plan to open savings for our kids and put aside some $$ monthly but I don't see us paying for our kids' education. I hope they never have to acquire the debt that I have, yet I want them to appreciate hardwork.

    I guess I'm torn on the topic.. N w baby frying my brain, I'm not sure exactly my thoughts right now. Def a topic to discuss w my financial advisor tho!
  • @crystal321 if your establishment lost its accredidation you can look into getting your loans forgiven due to this. They have programs in place for those specific reasons. It takes some hustling on your part to find the resources, fill out the paper work and stay on top of your case to make sure follow through happens, but it can be done.

    Anyways, im also a child that has a ton of loans because my parents stopped paying for school part way through. During the recession my step dad lost his job and actually took government assistance to go back to school to become an RN. Now that he has a job they have started repaying some of my bachelor loans, but I now have loans for my masters as well even though DH and I save and pay cash some semesters (others we just cant do it so loans it is). That being said I landed an awesome job after graduating with a simply communications degree. I couldnt decide on a major, bounced around, finally said screw it ill get my masters just tell me the quickest route to graduating and voila communications it is. My employer is now grooming me for operations and im working my ass off to get it and the hefty salary increase that comes from it. Unfortunately because of our situation DSD and LO dont have funds set up yet as we have my school debt to deal with BUT im working so hard everyday to get ourselves where we need to be financially to help them out. My only rule is I wont pay for partying and bad grades. What I do to help will all depend on each child and their determenation to do well in school. As long as they are making good grades ill foot the college bill because the debt I have right now sucks and I cant start savings for them due to my debt right now. I dont want that cycles to continue for their children if I can help by keeping them out of that debt.
  • DH and I got extremely lucky. He was on full athletic scholarship and my parents paid for my college education so we only have one tiny loan from DH's extra "victory lap" year.

    We plan on paying for LO's college education (assuming he doesn't get a scholarship) as long as he shows that he is going to work hard and take it seriously. I want our LOs to get to experience college but I hope that they put their studies before everything else. My parents didn't want to waste their money and always made it very clear that if we failed classes, we would need to re-evaluate and decide if we were really ready for college. There are so many things kids can do, without contributing financially, to help provide for their education. I graduated high school with 36hours towards my degree from AP/dual credit classes and I expect our LO to do the same. I also hope he will apply for local scholarships. Most are very small but, they can add up quickly.
  • In Canada we have RESPs. All of my kids have them. The government also makes contributions based on your yearly contributions. It can be used for university, college, or apprenticeships (which are all set-up differently than in the US).

    My parents had small RESPs for me and I took out student loans. DH and I are still paying ours off and it sucks. If I can help alleviate some of that for my kids, I will.

    This. We've started RESPs for our LO and we make a monthly contribution. Grandparents have indicated they will be buying a small gift to open for Christmas and birthdays but the bulk of their gift will go into the RESP. I was blessed that my parents paid for both of my degrees from money they had saved and I hope to help LO out the same way. :)
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